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    A company founded by an African immigrant just launched the heaviest payload ever delivered by a commercial company into space [SpaceX launches its powerful Falcon Heavy rocket for the first time, by Loren Grush, TheVerge.com, February 6, 2018]. But rather than celebrating, Main Stream Media journalists/ activists were furious—the immigrant from South Africa is a...
  • Elon Musk isn’t perfect by any means, but he does have loads of get up and go.
    And it makes we wonder whether the US would not benefit from importing some more white South Africans – after the latest decision to rip property off of whites in South Africa for zero compensation, some of them will be needing to leave. The only reason South Africa is not completely one of the fabled ‘shithole’ countries is because of these folk. They would add some needed backbone to the US.

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    Elon Musk on how Falcon Heavy will change space travel

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7LJIuB2CHE

    How and why a Tesla Roadster now orbits Earth

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-qcarGmb2g

    People who seek to control their “inventions” , teaches of their fruit . They are greedy full wanting more power etc . They care nothing for mankind . Elon musk is one of those as taught by his fruit

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  • @Sam J.
    It's much more difficult to reach the really big heights because of the enormous financial advantage that Jews have, They can raise capital at a rate that dwarfs normal folk.

    If you wish to compete with in media and actually tell the truth about them you will be starved for add revenue killing your profit. Look at facebook. I mean what kind of plan did they have. It's rather stupid and there's no way they could have brought it off without major Jewish capital.

    Everybody has the right to form up into self help groups. Unions, (including the United States,) have been formed for the benefit of the various members. Unfortunately these too often degenerate into self help groups for the Union managers and organizers. Ring any bells?

    Another form of self help group is the “Association”, as in American Medical Association, or American Bar Association. The glue that holds these groups together is an understanding that what’s good for the group is good for the individual. As such they have high member participation and generally high membership requirements. And high member rewards.

    Religion is another form of group glue. The more intense the belief, the stronger the glue. (This can also result in intense belief rejection, as evidenced by those who are most vociferous in their objections to operations of the group.)

    There are generally great amounts of overlap within these groups. For example, a Catholic medical doctor, with a law degree, teaching medicine at a Jewish university. Non of these are exclusionary, and all are profitable for the individual.

    So, the problem seems to be that it’s difficult for a bunch of loners to form up, agreeably, into a functional self help organization. Options are to join one of the established groups, or form a new group. New churches crop up on a regular basis. With the understanding that building from scratch is least likely to have any effect for a very long time. (The effectiveness of the big power groups is directly related to the age of the group.)

    Or, keep drifting along, buffeted by the effects of actions taken by the power groups. It’s the easiest way. Kick back, feet up, sip beer. Watch the sunset.

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  • Diversity Supremacist or Diversity Niggers or Diggers, are a bunch of protected class groups grubbing and whining for more group entitlements encoded into federal law.

    Jews are the top entitlement-grasping Diggers of the Digger pecking order in both the US and Israel, and as such are responsible for orchestrating the destruction of the US constitution, the American welfare-warfare state, and the degraded quality of life in the US.

    Until the US returns to equal protection of the laws listed in the US constitution, there will be no reason to expect the US to be anything else but an Israel-Jewish bitch.

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    Feminist are favored by federal laws because of presumed Male oppression
    Jewish are favored by federal laws because of presumed Gentile oppression
    Sodomites are favored by federal laws because of presumed Straight oppression
    Elective Abortionist are favored by federal laws because of presumed Innocent Life Advocate oppression
    Muslims are favored by federal laws because of presumed Christian oppression
    Disabled are favored by federal laws because of presumed Healthy oppression
    Afro-blacks are favored by federal laws because of presumed White oppression
    Latinos are favored by federal laws because of presumed Gringo oppression
    Hispanics are favored by federal laws because of presumed Gringo oppression
    Military Veterans are favored by federal laws because of presumed Militia oppression
    Aboriginal Americans are favored by federal laws because of presumed Paleface oppression
    Asians are favored by federal laws because of presumed Occidental oppression
    International Socialist are favored by federal laws because of presumed Local Government oppression
    SJW Crony Capitalist are favored by federal laws because of presumed Honest Businessmen oppression
    Zionist-Neocons are favored by federal laws because of presumed Anti-Fascist oppression

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  • @denk
    Smoggee

    This is being done to push the US/Europe out of Africa, leaving themselves as masters of the continent. ' [sic]
     
    Johnnie Carson, U.S. assistant secretary for African Affairs,

    ' China is a “very aggressive and pernicious economic competitor with no morals.”
     
    [sic]

    贼喊捉贼 !

    嘿嘿嘿嘿 [1]



    'Of course, despite all the public claims to the contrary, defeating al-Qaeda has never really been a genuine pursuit of the U.S. anyway. After all, a vanquished al-Qaeda would really denote something of a strategic setback for Washington. It would deprive the U.S. a source of proxy war foot soldiers, while also leaving Washington struggling to justify its global garrisoning. In the end then,
    the al-Qaeda menace — that gift that keeps on giving — is simply too useful to defeat.


    One needs look no further than the intervention into Mali to see the al-Qaeda threat bearing fruit for the West. All the attention on combating al-Qaeda in northern Mali has provided the perfect cover for the U.S. and its junior Western partners to pursue their grand strategy of containment against China. And with China increasingly out competing Western interests throughout Africa, one understands the sudden neo-colonial urge in the West.

    the West’s Libyan romp, costing China $20 billion in investments, helped set the stage for the current intervention into Mali. For in order for the U.S. to harness Asia’s (read China’s) growth and dynamism — and thus cement America's Pacific Century — the U.S. must come to also harness the growth and dynamism of Africa.

    The U.S. containment of China, then, requires a pivot of sorts to Africa. Only the African pivot appears set to fall under the banner of that ever-malleable “war of terror.'

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article33814.htm

    I forgot to put in the translation…

    [1]

    ROBBER CRYING ROBBERY

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  • @Johnny Smoggins
    Yes, I'm sure they're doing this out of pure humanitarianism right?

    This is being done to push the US/Europe out of Africa, leaving themselves as masters of the continent. Don't get me wrong, brilliant strategy, but let's see it for what it is; geopolitics.

    There's no such thing as a free lunch, especially when you're dealing with people as ruthless and cutthroat in business as the Chinese. A favoured Chinese business tactic is to get a customer indebted to the businessman first. This is what we're seeing here.

    Smoggee

    This is being done to push the US/Europe out of Africa, leaving themselves as masters of the continent. ‘ [sic]

    Johnnie Carson, U.S. assistant secretary for African Affairs,

    ‘ China is a “very aggressive and pernicious economic competitor with no morals.”

    [sic]

    贼喊捉贼 !

    嘿嘿嘿嘿 [1]

    ‘Of course, despite all the public claims to the contrary, defeating al-Qaeda has never really been a genuine pursuit of the U.S. anyway. After all, a vanquished al-Qaeda would really denote something of a strategic setback for Washington. It would deprive the U.S. a source of proxy war foot soldiers, while also leaving Washington struggling to justify its global garrisoning. In the end then,
    the al-Qaeda menace — that gift that keeps on giving — is simply too useful to defeat.

    One needs look no further than the intervention into Mali to see the al-Qaeda threat bearing fruit for the West. All the attention on combating al-Qaeda in northern Mali has provided the perfect cover for the U.S. and its junior Western partners to pursue their grand strategy of containment against China. And with China increasingly out competing Western interests throughout Africa, one understands the sudden neo-colonial urge in the West.

    the West’s Libyan romp, costing China $20 billion in investments, helped set the stage for the current intervention into Mali. For in order for the U.S. to harness Asia’s (read China’s) growth and dynamism — and thus cement America’s Pacific Century — the U.S. must come to also harness the growth and dynamism of Africa.

    The U.S. containment of China, then, requires a pivot of sorts to Africa. Only the African pivot appears set to fall under the banner of that ever-malleable “war of terror.‘

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article33814.htm

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    I forgot to put in the translation...


    [1]

    ROBBER CRYING ROBBERY

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  • @anony-mouse
    '...Only Jewish orgs like Tesla and Google ...'

    Anybody got a list of all the non-Jews who people here just know are 'really' Jewish'?

    It’s much more difficult to reach the really big heights because of the enormous financial advantage that Jews have, They can raise capital at a rate that dwarfs normal folk.

    If you wish to compete with in media and actually tell the truth about them you will be starved for add revenue killing your profit. Look at facebook. I mean what kind of plan did they have. It’s rather stupid and there’s no way they could have brought it off without major Jewish capital.

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    • Replies: @HallParvey
    Everybody has the right to form up into self help groups. Unions, (including the United States,) have been formed for the benefit of the various members. Unfortunately these too often degenerate into self help groups for the Union managers and organizers. Ring any bells?

    Another form of self help group is the “Association”, as in American Medical Association, or American Bar Association. The glue that holds these groups together is an understanding that what’s good for the group is good for the individual. As such they have high member participation and generally high membership requirements. And high member rewards.

    Religion is another form of group glue. The more intense the belief, the stronger the glue. (This can also result in intense belief rejection, as evidenced by those who are most vociferous in their objections to operations of the group.)

    There are generally great amounts of overlap within these groups. For example, a Catholic medical doctor, with a law degree, teaching medicine at a Jewish university. Non of these are exclusionary, and all are profitable for the individual.

    So, the problem seems to be that it’s difficult for a bunch of loners to form up, agreeably, into a functional self help organization. Options are to join one of the established groups, or form a new group. New churches crop up on a regular basis. With the understanding that building from scratch is least likely to have any effect for a very long time. (The effectiveness of the big power groups is directly related to the age of the group.)

    Or, keep drifting along, buffeted by the effects of actions taken by the power groups. It’s the easiest way. Kick back, feet up, sip beer. Watch the sunset.
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  • @Brabantian
    Paul Kersey writes above of people who "got us on the moon" har-har-har ... Elon Musk knows the truth I think and is playing a giant goof on us

    This 'story' that 50 years ago this December, the USA somehow began the first of nine 'voyages to the moon' in 1968-72, with six alleged 'moon landings' ... and no one going back ever since HA

    3 days before his death on 7 March 1999, Stanley Kubrick confessed to fellow film-maker T Patrick Murray, that he had faked the films of the USA claimed 6 'moon landings' of 1969-1972, an era when the CIA had its own film studios at Laurel Canyon, California

    "Kubrick made it clear that he had agreed to the interview for a very specific purpose. He knew that he was close to death & he wanted to get something monumental off his chest before he died. Almost immediately after sitting down, he proceeded to tell the stunned interviewer that the moon landings were fake & he himself had been the director in charge of the filming proceedings.

    T (T. Patrick Murray): That we didn't land on the moon, you're saying?

    K (Stanley Kubrick): No, we didn't. It was not real.

    T: The moon landings were fake?

    K: A, a, a ... fictional moon landing. A fantasy. It was not real.

    T: The moon landing in '69 ...

    K: Is total fiction. I perpetrated a huge fraud on the American public, involving the United States government & NASA, that the moon landings were faked, that the moon landings ALL were faked, & I was the person who filmed it.

    T: Why did they have to fake it? Why would they have to do that?

    K: Because it is impossible to get there.
     
    Here's the Onion version of Kubrick's 'men landing on the moon' official hoax films Kubrick made for NASA, with the 're-discovered original audio transmissions' full of four-letter words & other irreverent language, 3min hilarious LOL brilliant 'Houston, we're on the f-cking moon, over'
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIkHLO93lCA

    I read a lot of the “the moon landing was fake” stuff and there was nothing there I couldn’t easily dispute. The only reason I read the stuff was I distrust the government so much I though it could be true.

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  • @anonymous
    But I saw The Martian at the movies a couple years ago. There were black geniuses who saved the day in the movie so I know they must exist somewhere. Also the movie Hidden Figures showed us once and for all how the space program couldn't have gotten off the ground without black talent. These movies prove that black genius is what brought us to where we are. Turn on the television for more proof.
    It's pretty apparent that diversity has become a massive racket. Wonder how many people there are who make a living being parasites in the diversity industry leeching on the productive sectors?

    When I was in business school, every Black professor was involved in “Black Studies” or somesuch. None, not one, was making his or her mark as an expert in finance, marketing or entrepreneurship. They all specialized in “Being Black,” writing tomes and “advising” Fortune 500 companies about challenges of “Being Black” in America’s racist business world etc etc.

    Rent-seekers, all.

    I’m sure I wasn’t the only White man who left b-school with a lower opinion of Black ability than when I entered.

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  • @Anonymous
    The vast majority of NASA's budget was for secret military research that not even the politicians knew about. Manned spaceflight was always a theatrical rather than scientific endeavor. A show put on to keep the public and their representatives entertained and to explain where all that money was going. It should be no surprise that the end of the Cold War also eventually brought an end to NASA's manned spaceflight program.

    The vast majority of NASA’s budget was for secret military research that not even the politicians knew about.

    A ridiculous statement and one for which you have no proof, and which is not true.

    Manned spaceflight was always a theatrical rather than scientific endeavor. A show put on to keep the public and their representatives entertained and to explain where all that money was going. It should be no surprise that the end of the Cold War also eventually brought an end to NASA’s manned spaceflight program.

    NASA’s manned spaceflight program has not ended. You evidently know nothing about what you’re talking about.

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  • @Carroll Price
    China and Russia are too late, the US beat them to it. It would be impossible for fake Moon landings to succeed more than once.

    China and Russia are too late, the US beat them to it. It would be impossible for fake Moon landings to succeed more than once.

    A nonsensical statement, but that is unsurprising given all the other drivel you’ve spouted here.

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  • @Carroll Price
    My mistake in previous post. It was White, Grissom and Chaffee who died, not Allen Sheppard
    https://learning.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/27/jan-27-1967-three-astronauts-killed-in-apollo-1-fire/

    My mistake in previous post. It was White, Grissom and Chaffee who died, not Allen Sheppard

    https://learning.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/27/jan-27-1967-three-astronauts-killed-in-apollo-1-fire/

    You spelled Alan Shepard’s name wrong too but why should any of that concern you, given that everything you’ve claimed here as been wrong. The Apollo 1 fire was not started intentionally to murder someone, nor were the Moon landings faked. Your knowledge of the World seems to come from comic books.

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  • Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr. Anon

    I would be very surprised. The US is perfect for a scam hustler like Musk. Any government with reasonable fiscal controls would refuse to subsidize Musk.
     
    SpaceX's business is supplying the launch market which is largely government paid-for. You can call that a subsidy if you want, but it is no more subsidized than Boeing or Lockheed-Martin. SpaceX delivers a lot more for the money than NASA does.

    The vast majority of NASA’s budget was for secret military research that not even the politicians knew about. Manned spaceflight was always a theatrical rather than scientific endeavor. A show put on to keep the public and their representatives entertained and to explain where all that money was going. It should be no surprise that the end of the Cold War also eventually brought an end to NASA’s manned spaceflight program.

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    The vast majority of NASA’s budget was for secret military research that not even the politicians knew about.
     
    A ridiculous statement and one for which you have no proof, and which is not true.

    Manned spaceflight was always a theatrical rather than scientific endeavor. A show put on to keep the public and their representatives entertained and to explain where all that money was going. It should be no surprise that the end of the Cold War also eventually brought an end to NASA’s manned spaceflight program.
     
    NASA's manned spaceflight program has not ended. You evidently know nothing about what you're talking about.
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  • Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Johnny Smoggins
    And the Chinese are ruthlessly colonizing Africa too. But unlike the British, French and Belgians, I doubt they'll leave behind a civil structure, transportation network, medical system or universities when they're done.

    The Chinese will succeed in Africa because they don’t regard Africans as inferiors and mistreat them, unlike Europeans. There will never be a Chinese ‘Apartheid’. There is mutual respect and admiration. There will never be the kind of hostility towards Chinese in Africa that existed towards Europeans in the colonial era.

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  • @Johnny Smoggins
    And the Chinese are ruthlessly colonizing Africa too. But unlike the British, French and Belgians, I doubt they'll leave behind a civil structure, transportation network, medical system or universities when they're done.
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  • @Polish Perspective
    It seems to me that China will surpass the US in most important metrics. The areas where they will lag the most will be the most advanced and engineering-heavy, such as space travel and perhaps some military applications. Though from recent news it appears the Chinese are ahead on railgun technology now, too and they are heavily investing in combat lasers.

    Ultimately it does not matter that much if the West can produce someone like Musk. As Kersey points out, the destruction of NASA in the post-1970 period was entirely self-afflicted. Musk may not be big on affirmative action, but he is a political coward and given enough pressure, he will bend. He very much wants to be part of the liberal elite. But he can't have it both ways, there's no á la carte here.

    If other countries can provide the space(pun unintended) to build a private space company without the burdensome social/racial politics, I don't see why those wouldn't become more interesting for a future Musk, someone born in a poorer country but with a lot of talent who just needs an avenue to express that talent and ambition.

    Overall, I am pleased with the relative decline of the US. I like everyday Americans, but their politics and culture is pure poison at this point. I think even many Americans will agree to this. The Chinese bans hip-hop and the US promotes negro culture. The Chinese are ruthlessly investing in space capabilities and NASA is a derelict shadow of a once glorious past. It's sad, because it's all self-inflicted. But in the end, the price has to be paid. I wouldn't be surprised if SpaceX moves to a different country, maybe somewhere in Asia, in the future if this taliban mentality regarding race and gender only intensifies.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if SpaceX moves to a different country, maybe somewhere in Asia

    As Twodees points out, it depends more on the fiscal policy, or rather monetary policy. The US enjoyed 0% interest rates for almost 15 years now which sparked massive business expansions and loads of inexpensive venture capital, not to mention gov. spending/subsidies – a policy which Tesla and SX massively enjoyed and is rather unlikely do be duplicated anywhere else in the world in the foreseeable future.

    Russia, the only other country with a comparable level of rocketry know-how to the US, has CB interest rates of 7,5%!! and a rather non-existent venture capital and insurance market. There are some 80 bl. USD spent on venture in the US compared to some couple hundred millions in Russia.

    When, and if, Russia can achieve comparable levels of capital cost to the US, it may attract ppl. like Musk or spawn domestic ventures by itself.

    Then there is this thought, that exploiting space as a viable business model may be massively overrated and exists only as dream in the free fed money land that is the US where they don’t really care about write-offs.

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  • We cannot become great by bringing Africans, all we can become is Africa and who wants that?

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  • @WhiteWolf
    Space yes. Manned moon landing no. Flat earth no. Tesla roadster in space? Possible but who knows. It's an expensive advertsing campaign.

    We are sold fake terror events and school shootings as real events so blindly trusting any information is not wise.

    I always have to ask this: When was the last American mass shooting (10+ kills) that wasn’t a hoax or a false flag?

    I ask because I have an acquaintance who – as long as I’ve known him, there’s never been mass shooting that he didn’t think was a false flag attack or something similar.

    So when was the last real one?

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  • @Carroll Price
    Using pure oxygen in the Apollo mock-up was no mistake. Pure oxygen was used to make sure Sheppard who was threatening to blow the whistle on the fake moon landing scam would not survive the fire and explosion.

    My mistake in previous post. It was White, Grissom and Chaffee who died, not Allen Sheppard

    https://learning.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/27/jan-27-1967-three-astronauts-killed-in-apollo-1-fire/

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    My mistake in previous post. It was White, Grissom and Chaffee who died, not Allen Sheppard

    https://learning.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/27/jan-27-1967-three-astronauts-killed-in-apollo-1-fire/
     
    You spelled Alan Shepard's name wrong too but why should any of that concern you, given that everything you've claimed here as been wrong. The Apollo 1 fire was not started intentionally to murder someone, nor were the Moon landings faked. Your knowledge of the World seems to come from comic books.
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  • @FKA Max
    Peter Thiel is leaving the Bay Area and moving to LA. I wonder if he will be collaborating with Steve Bannon on his new media venture?

    Why Peter Thiel is leaving Silicon Valley


    Citing what they called Silicon Valley's "sclerotic" culture and "conformity of thought," a source close to Thiel told CNNMoney that the investor would soon move to Los Angeles, where he will "focus on a number of new projects including creating a new media endeavor."
    [...]
    The Wall Street Journal, which broke the news of Thiel's move, reported Thursday that Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg even asked Thiel to consider resigning from his company's board last summer. This came after Netflix CEO Reed Hastings, another Facebook board member, reportedly criticized what he called Thiel's "catastrophically bad judgment" in supporting Trump.
     
    - http://money.cnn.com/2018/02/15/technology/peter-thiel-leaving-silicon-valley/index.html

    Also, this is what the former director of batteries at Tesla is up to now:

    Tesla's Former Battery Director Joins Farming Startup Plenty


    "At Tesla I was employee number fifty or sixty,” Kelty said in an interview. “It’s a very different company from when I joined. I wanted to figure out where I would contribute to the next big wave. I see my next 10-year-run as growing Plenty."

    Japanese telecommunications giant SoftBank led a $200 million investment in Plenty in July. The startup is betting that with its technology and the backing of SoftBank Chief Executive Officer Masayoshi Son, it has the connections and capital to accelerate international development. Plenty says it can yield up to 350 times more produce in a given area than conventional farms -- with 1 percent of the water.
     

    - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-16/tesla-s-former-battery-director-joins-farming-startup-plenty

    https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2017/07/20/ap_7683886537331.jpg

    Kelty is the latest in a long-list of Tesla executives to have departed the company, with at least 20 names counted in just the past 12 months in the following list of TSLA executive departures compiled by @WallStCynic. While the real reason for Kelty's departure remains unknown, judging by the list below, shortsville may just end up having the final laugh.

    Source: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-01/teslas-veteran-battery-technology-director-unexpectedly-quits

    This is the only way to deal with the overpopulation and overconsumption problem.

    Jeff Bezos is backing the project as well:

    A new Jeff Bezos-backed warehouse farm will grow enough produce to feed over 180,000 people per year


    Following a $200 million investment this summer — the largest agriculture-tech funding round in history — vertical farming startup Plenty is expanding beyond its Bay Area roots.

    The company is opening a second farm in the greater Seattle area, Plenty CEO Matt Barnard told Business Insider. Located in Kent, Washington, the 100,000-square-foot warehouse facility will grow 4.5 million pounds of greens annually, which is enough to feed around 183,600 Americans, according to the USDA.
     

    - http://www.businessinsider.com/vertical-farming-company-plenty-investment-second-farm-seattle-2017-11

    “This is the only way to deal with the overpopulation and overconsumption problem.”

    Well, no, it’s not the only way. We’ve got plenty of ways, from resistant pandemics to mass shootings. Better ways to feed the excess population looks more like enabling the next and far worse stage of the problem.

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  • @HallParvey
    The difference between building a new car, never having built one before, and driving one. NASA people made a lot of poor decisions. An example was choosing to use pure oxygen in the early Apollo capsule.

    As far as operation went, you are right. The shiny new car was the property of the buyer and the buyer gets to drive.

    Using pure oxygen in the Apollo mock-up was no mistake. Pure oxygen was used to make sure Sheppard who was threatening to blow the whistle on the fake moon landing scam would not survive the fire and explosion.

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    My mistake in previous post. It was White, Grissom and Chaffee who died, not Allen Sheppard
    https://learning.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/27/jan-27-1967-three-astronauts-killed-in-apollo-1-fire/
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  • @Mr. Anon

    Excellent question I’ve been asking for awhile now. Let me know when you come up with an explanation.
     
    National Pride. The Chinese will probably stop at about the same point we did, at putting boot-prints on the Moon, because there isn't much reason for people to go there besides saying "We did it!".

    China and Russia are too late, the US beat them to it. It would be impossible for fake Moon landings to succeed more than once.

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    China and Russia are too late, the US beat them to it. It would be impossible for fake Moon landings to succeed more than once.
     
    A nonsensical statement, but that is unsurprising given all the other drivel you've spouted here.
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  • America’s Whites are on the wane. Blacks know it. Jews engineered it.
    Trump is a coward. His promises are meaningless.
    Immigration and Black ascendence are the death of White America.
    [Queue taps.]

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  • @Mr. Anon
    You are right that contractors built the vehicles. However NASA operated them. NASA was actually heavily involved in the design, testing and fabrication too. That was back when NASA was a competent organization. It isn't one any longer.

    The difference between building a new car, never having built one before, and driving one. NASA people made a lot of poor decisions. An example was choosing to use pure oxygen in the early Apollo capsule.

    As far as operation went, you are right. The shiny new car was the property of the buyer and the buyer gets to drive.

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    Using pure oxygen in the Apollo mock-up was no mistake. Pure oxygen was used to make sure Sheppard who was threatening to blow the whistle on the fake moon landing scam would not survive the fire and explosion.
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  • Where is it written that politics must be Manichaean?
    Where it is written that the only politics is borderline splitting?

    The United States already is diverse.

    Spend six months in: China, Korea, Japan.

    Hell – spend six months in Baja California.

    And all hollering on Unz to the contrary, diversity – to a point – is a strength.
    Not “our” strength. Not our only strength. Not a strength that can’t be tapped so much that like too much testosterone or too much growth hormone it becomes toxic and lethal to its host. And homogeneity, such as in these other countries, is also a strength – but it arguably is a strength that literally forms the brick, mortar and tile of the ceilings that slow or prevent the progress of all of these countries.

    Instead of handing munitions to your political adversaries by lamenting diversity – turn the tables!
    Say: “the diversity we already have – is our strength! We celebrate it! We will not tolerate your refusal to address the needs of the African American communities who are already here, by importing more immigrants to take their place in our economy! Nor the Latino/Hispanic Americans who are already here. Nor the white working class or middle class who are already here. We insist you stop distracting everyone from the real problems by creating a manufactured problem that just happens to suit your economic interests because you don’t have to pay for the progress of those you import, but you do get to profit from the fruit of their labor.”

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  • @Carroll Price
    Nixon's problem was that he knew the names of those who ordered Kennedy's assassination, and was in the process of procuring documents with which to prove it, thus blackmailing an Establishment that hated his guts.

    You say Nixon was on the verge of exposing Kennedy’s killers. Interesting. What evidence do you have? I had thought Watergate was an attempt to cover up the fact that close Nixon associates were pbotographed in Dallas dressed up as tramps, suggesting Nixon was involved.

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  • @Nils
    If it was the sun, where did he go? Better call it greenscreen technique, not cgi. And where are the stars, stars are everywhere around us, apart from a roadster. Entirely fake, like the rocket landings.

    If it was the sun, where did he go?

    I have no idea what you even mean by that. What sun? The Sun wasn’t in the picture – sunlight was in the picture.

    And where are the stars, stars are everywhere around us, apart from a roadster. Entirely fake, like the rocket landings.

    I really don’t think it’s worth explaining anything to an idiot who can’t grasp the simplest facts about camera exposures, but here goes: Try taking a picture of your car out in the driveway on a clear starry night. There won’t be any stars in the picture. Are you part of the conspiracy then?

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  • @Carroll Price

    They are one of only three countries that have a manned space program. That costs a lot of money. So why are they spending a lot of money on space exploration projects then?
     
    Excellent question I've been asking for awhile now. Let me know when you come up with an explanation.

    Excellent question I’ve been asking for awhile now. Let me know when you come up with an explanation.

    National Pride. The Chinese will probably stop at about the same point we did, at putting boot-prints on the Moon, because there isn’t much reason for people to go there besides saying “We did it!”.

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    China and Russia are too late, the US beat them to it. It would be impossible for fake Moon landings to succeed more than once.
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  • @Bill
    That's the argument against SpaceX being subsidized? SpaceX is about as subsidized as defense contractors?

    That’s the argument against SpaceX being subsidized? SpaceX is about as subsidized as defense contractors?

    I didn’t say they weren’t subsidized. They are. But no more so than the big aerospace primes. The government is the biggest customer for launch services. Nobody could make a go of a launch company without serving that market. I don’t see why SpaceX should come in for any special opprobrium that Boeing and LockMart don’t get.

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  • @Mr. Anon

    China is far too smart to waste money on space exploration projects that offer absolutely nothing in return.
     
    They are one of only three countries that have a manned space program. That costs a lot of money. So why are they spending a lot of money on space exploration projects then?

    They are one of only three countries that have a manned space program. That costs a lot of money. So why are they spending a lot of money on space exploration projects then?

    Excellent question I’ve been asking for awhile now. Let me know when you come up with an explanation.

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    Excellent question I’ve been asking for awhile now. Let me know when you come up with an explanation.
     
    National Pride. The Chinese will probably stop at about the same point we did, at putting boot-prints on the Moon, because there isn't much reason for people to go there besides saying "We did it!".
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  • @Mr. Anon

    I would be very surprised. The US is perfect for a scam hustler like Musk. Any government with reasonable fiscal controls would refuse to subsidize Musk.
     
    SpaceX's business is supplying the launch market which is largely government paid-for. You can call that a subsidy if you want, but it is no more subsidized than Boeing or Lockheed-Martin. SpaceX delivers a lot more for the money than NASA does.

    That’s the argument against SpaceX being subsidized? SpaceX is about as subsidized as defense contractors?

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    That’s the argument against SpaceX being subsidized? SpaceX is about as subsidized as defense contractors?
     
    I didn't say they weren't subsidized. They are. But no more so than the big aerospace primes. The government is the biggest customer for launch services. Nobody could make a go of a launch company without serving that market. I don't see why SpaceX should come in for any special opprobrium that Boeing and LockMart don't get.
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  • @Mr. Anon
    That wasn't a NASA launch. It was a pure SpaceX endeavor.

    And how is it "pretty clear" that it isn't the Sun? What do you mean?

    Also, is it your contention that - not only did humans never land on the moon - but that humans have never launched anything into space? Are you a flat-earther too?

    If it was the sun, where did he go? Better call it greenscreen technique, not cgi. And where are the stars, stars are everywhere around us, apart from a roadster. Entirely fake, like the rocket landings.

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    If it was the sun, where did he go?
     
    I have no idea what you even mean by that. What sun? The Sun wasn't in the picture - sunlight was in the picture.

    And where are the stars, stars are everywhere around us, apart from a roadster. Entirely fake, like the rocket landings.
     
    I really don't think it's worth explaining anything to an idiot who can't grasp the simplest facts about camera exposures, but here goes: Try taking a picture of your car out in the driveway on a clear starry night. There won't be any stars in the picture. Are you part of the conspiracy then?
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  • Fun game to play: spot the whiny American lady with a pampered easy life who walks around with a permanent bitch face. There’s one! And another one! And another one! Good thing this isn’t a drinking game…

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  • @Carroll Price
    China is far too smart to waste money on space exploration projects that offer absolutely nothing in return.

    China is far too smart to waste money on space exploration projects that offer absolutely nothing in return.

    They are one of only three countries that have a manned space program. That costs a lot of money. So why are they spending a lot of money on space exploration projects then?

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    They are one of only three countries that have a manned space program. That costs a lot of money. So why are they spending a lot of money on space exploration projects then?
     
    Excellent question I've been asking for awhile now. Let me know when you come up with an explanation.
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  • @Carroll Price
    I'd be interested in learning how you went about proving any of this is actually occurred? Or is that a minor detail that's, in no way, important to the story?

    I’d be interested in learning how you went about proving any of this is actually occurred? Or is that a minor detail that’s, in no way, important to the story?

    Can you prove you exist? Why should anybody care what you say, given that you don’t exist?

    People like you are tiresome bores who accomplish nothing, and leave nothing on this Earth of any value.

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  • @WhiteWolf
    Space yes. Manned moon landing no. Flat earth no. Tesla roadster in space? Possible but who knows. It's an expensive advertsing campaign.

    We are sold fake terror events and school shootings as real events so blindly trusting any information is not wise.

    See my reply to the other cretin, above.

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  • @Carroll Price
    Short answer; Contrary to what you have been told, humans have never ventured further than a couple hundred miles above the earth's surface at any time, with the earth's surface being in the form of a sphere.

    Short answer; Contrary to what you have been told, humans have never ventured further than a couple hundred miles above the earth’s surface at any time, with the earth’s surface being in the form of a sphere.

    Short answer: You are a cretin, who likely knows nothing about the topic at all. Humans did indeed walk on the Moon. A lot of stupid people seem to believe that they did not.

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  • @HallParvey
    He's right. NASA never went to the moon. While it's true that American-made rockets went to the moon, American-made cars drove around on the moon, and American-made rockets returned from the moon, none of it was made by NASA.

    NASA was the government agency that funneled the money to various private companies that created, operated and launched the moon exploration missions. They also supplied the warm bodies that went along for the ride.

    You are right that contractors built the vehicles. However NASA operated them. NASA was actually heavily involved in the design, testing and fabrication too. That was back when NASA was a competent organization. It isn’t one any longer.

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    The difference between building a new car, never having built one before, and driving one. NASA people made a lot of poor decisions. An example was choosing to use pure oxygen in the early Apollo capsule.

    As far as operation went, you are right. The shiny new car was the property of the buyer and the buyer gets to drive.
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  • @WhiteWolf
    Space yes. Manned moon landing no. Flat earth no. Tesla roadster in space? Possible but who knows. It's an expensive advertsing campaign.

    We are sold fake terror events and school shootings as real events so blindly trusting any information is not wise.

    We are sold fake terror events and school shootings as real events so blindly trusting any information is not wise.

    But blindly trusting people like Bart Sibrel is wise?

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  • @Anon
    Do you offer your opinion based on facts or figment of your imagination?

    Here in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia’s capital, China is driving an urban renaissance. It has built whole neighborhoods, a $475-million light-railway system and even the African Union headquarters, a $200-million complex that dominates the city’s skyline. In the country’s hinterlands, it has constructed several industrial parks, anticipating a manufacturing boom.

    In Ethiopia, the country’s rail executives said China seems more attuned to Africa’s needs.

    “China doesn’t give simple aid,” Getachew said. “They do give loans. You work, and you return back. That’s a good policy. Aid is just making slavery.”

    For decades, the China-Africa relationship was almost entirely transactional: China gave African states easy loans, enabling them to build bridges and stadiums; in return, those states gave China access to natural resources, such as oil, timber and nickel, fueling China’s economic boom.

    But as China's foreign policy grows more sophisticated — and more ambitious — that era is ending, and the relationship is growing much deeper, with extraordinary implications for the continent’s future.
     
    http://www.latimes.com/world/asia/la-fg-china-africa-ethiopia-20170804-htmlstory.html

    Yes, I’m sure they’re doing this out of pure humanitarianism right?

    This is being done to push the US/Europe out of Africa, leaving themselves as masters of the continent. Don’t get me wrong, brilliant strategy, but let’s see it for what it is; geopolitics.

    There’s no such thing as a free lunch, especially when you’re dealing with people as ruthless and cutthroat in business as the Chinese. A favoured Chinese business tactic is to get a customer indebted to the businessman first. This is what we’re seeing here.

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    Smoggee

    This is being done to push the US/Europe out of Africa, leaving themselves as masters of the continent. ' [sic]
     
    Johnnie Carson, U.S. assistant secretary for African Affairs,

    ' China is a “very aggressive and pernicious economic competitor with no morals.”
     
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    'Of course, despite all the public claims to the contrary, defeating al-Qaeda has never really been a genuine pursuit of the U.S. anyway. After all, a vanquished al-Qaeda would really denote something of a strategic setback for Washington. It would deprive the U.S. a source of proxy war foot soldiers, while also leaving Washington struggling to justify its global garrisoning. In the end then,
    the al-Qaeda menace — that gift that keeps on giving — is simply too useful to defeat.


    One needs look no further than the intervention into Mali to see the al-Qaeda threat bearing fruit for the West. All the attention on combating al-Qaeda in northern Mali has provided the perfect cover for the U.S. and its junior Western partners to pursue their grand strategy of containment against China. And with China increasingly out competing Western interests throughout Africa, one understands the sudden neo-colonial urge in the West.

    the West’s Libyan romp, costing China $20 billion in investments, helped set the stage for the current intervention into Mali. For in order for the U.S. to harness Asia’s (read China’s) growth and dynamism — and thus cement America's Pacific Century — the U.S. must come to also harness the growth and dynamism of Africa.

    The U.S. containment of China, then, requires a pivot of sorts to Africa. Only the African pivot appears set to fall under the banner of that ever-malleable “war of terror.'

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article33814.htm
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  • @Mr. Anon
    That wasn't a NASA launch. It was a pure SpaceX endeavor.

    And how is it "pretty clear" that it isn't the Sun? What do you mean?

    Also, is it your contention that - not only did humans never land on the moon - but that humans have never launched anything into space? Are you a flat-earther too?

    Space yes. Manned moon landing no. Flat earth no. Tesla roadster in space? Possible but who knows. It’s an expensive advertsing campaign.

    We are sold fake terror events and school shootings as real events so blindly trusting any information is not wise.

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    We are sold fake terror events and school shootings as real events so blindly trusting any information is not wise.
     
    But blindly trusting people like Bart Sibrel is wise?
    , @Mr. Anon
    See my reply to the other cretin, above.
    , @larry lurker
    I always have to ask this: When was the last American mass shooting (10+ kills) that wasn't a hoax or a false flag?

    I ask because I have an acquaintance who - as long as I've known him, there's never been mass shooting that he didn't think was a false flag attack or something similar.

    So when was the last real one?

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  • @Brabantian
    Paul Kersey writes above of people who "got us on the moon" har-har-har ... Elon Musk knows the truth I think and is playing a giant goof on us

    This 'story' that 50 years ago this December, the USA somehow began the first of nine 'voyages to the moon' in 1968-72, with six alleged 'moon landings' ... and no one going back ever since HA

    3 days before his death on 7 March 1999, Stanley Kubrick confessed to fellow film-maker T Patrick Murray, that he had faked the films of the USA claimed 6 'moon landings' of 1969-1972, an era when the CIA had its own film studios at Laurel Canyon, California

    "Kubrick made it clear that he had agreed to the interview for a very specific purpose. He knew that he was close to death & he wanted to get something monumental off his chest before he died. Almost immediately after sitting down, he proceeded to tell the stunned interviewer that the moon landings were fake & he himself had been the director in charge of the filming proceedings.

    T (T. Patrick Murray): That we didn't land on the moon, you're saying?

    K (Stanley Kubrick): No, we didn't. It was not real.

    T: The moon landings were fake?

    K: A, a, a ... fictional moon landing. A fantasy. It was not real.

    T: The moon landing in '69 ...

    K: Is total fiction. I perpetrated a huge fraud on the American public, involving the United States government & NASA, that the moon landings were faked, that the moon landings ALL were faked, & I was the person who filmed it.

    T: Why did they have to fake it? Why would they have to do that?

    K: Because it is impossible to get there.
     
    Here's the Onion version of Kubrick's 'men landing on the moon' official hoax films Kubrick made for NASA, with the 're-discovered original audio transmissions' full of four-letter words & other irreverent language, 3min hilarious LOL brilliant 'Houston, we're on the f-cking moon, over'
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIkHLO93lCA

    Diversity AND Greatness, the “real” history:

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  • @Bill Jones
    These morons seriously seem to believe that talent is evenly distributed across the races and between the sexes.
    It Isn't.

    My own little theory, for which I have very little support, is that white guys managed to create the world that every one wants to live in because of the 3% or so of neanderthal DNA-

    Your theory makes as much, if not more sense than most.

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  • @George
    How about music, is diversity good or bad? Scott Joplin and the other black rag time innovators were responsible for Anglo-American musical dominance. OK throw in some Jews like Gershwin and Herb Alpert.

    When the term diversity is being discussed, it’s usually assumed to be in reference to forced diversity. That is, forcing minorities into positions and roles for which they have no natural talent or intellect. Since Blacks happen to be naturally good at music and sports, diversity does not become an issue, whereas forcing them into roles of performing as a rocket scientist is.

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  • @Iberiano
    America won't go to Mars (as in colonizing), the most intellectually advanced, and racially homogeneous nation will. So it's a battle between China, Japan and for whatever it's worth, Russia. Or "Astronauts operating outside of Russia". (AOOR)

    People see the welfare state, in all it's forms, everywhere, all day, around and among them. They never seem to realize that the lowering IQ (and birth rate of high IQ) actually matters. Americans see slower, more sloppy and rude service, less adherence to social norms, from marriage before babies, to properly stopping at stoplights and stop signs, or the service guy running 1-2 hours behind, or stupid teachers, government employees at the DMV, or the conflict between people of different race and cultural backgrounds in simple interactions at the super market. They can't seem to grasp, or remember for some of us, that it wasn't always that way--and it is getting worse, and will continue to do so, until we are full-on Brazil. How many men have Brazil put on the moon?

    China is far too smart to waste money on space exploration projects that offer absolutely nothing in return.

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    China is far too smart to waste money on space exploration projects that offer absolutely nothing in return.
     
    They are one of only three countries that have a manned space program. That costs a lot of money. So why are they spending a lot of money on space exploration projects then?
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  • @Meretricious
    Musk is not Jewish

    If he’s not a Jew already, he’s way over-due becoming one.

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  • @Alden
    I was there when Nixon implemented affirmative action. He was president when it was done. His appointee as head of the EEOC was a Jew named Levine. It was Levine who turned the EEOC from do not discriminate against Qualified blacks into SHALL discriminate against qualified Whites in favor of unqualified blacks.

    Most of the attorneys for the anti White side of the affirmative action lawsuits were Jews. Nixon’s handler and overlord was Kissinger who gave the orders for America’s intervention in Israel’s 1973 war and guided the presidency.

    Nixon obeyed all the Jews orders, the 73 war, vicious ferociously enforced affirmative action, section 8, endless funding for black Hispanic and Jewish activist groups including the Black Panthers and LARAZA, On orders from Jews Nixon created the Hispanic race by executive order just in time for the 1970 census. Immediately his EEOC made them affirmative action beneficiaries.

    Johnson enacted the 64 civil rights law, the 65 third world immigration law and the 68 affirmative action law.

    But it was Nixon who implemented their anti White bias far, far beyond the wording of the laws.

    Interesting that Nixon did everything jews liberals and communists wanted him to do from the 73 day war to inventing the Hispanic race.

    But was soon as his work was done for them the Jews of the WAPO and the rest of the media turned on him and drove him from office.

    Nixon’s problem was that he knew the names of those who ordered Kennedy’s assassination, and was in the process of procuring documents with which to prove it, thus blackmailing an Establishment that hated his guts.

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    You say Nixon was on the verge of exposing Kennedy's killers. Interesting. What evidence do you have? I had thought Watergate was an attempt to cover up the fact that close Nixon associates were pbotographed in Dallas dressed up as tramps, suggesting Nixon was involved.
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  • @cas
    i love how people hold this musk fellow in high regards . ANYONE who calls himself a true inventor and profits billions and tries to control his inventions to such a degree . Proves by HIS WORKS he serves mammon and not the people .
    Guess what musk , real inventors get slaughtered in real life because they actually care for mankind and want to give away freely what they have been given freely .
    Stanley meyer , and a one with last name ogle to name a couple of true inventors

    If this was "essential " technology as he claims why is it so controlled ?

    They have sold their souls for billions and a bunch of sluts and a fake wanna be god .

    They , the musk type believe that man was genetically engineered from apes rather than a separate creation of the infinite SPIRIT

    Sorry if your hypothesis of evolution is real , answer these few simple questions please

    Why does mankind put clothes on ?

    Why does mankind smile ?

    Why does mankind laugh ?

    Mankind is sick because they have put Jesus Christ the INFINITE SPIRIT Living Creator from their hearts and choose this temporary fleshly abode .

    Folks Jesus Christ ,not man made religion now . If you define religion as how James (half brother ) of Jesus Christ defined it . NOT one man on earth has pure religion , therefore religion as seen in this world at this day is not religion .

    Animal kingdom or Spirtual kingdom folks decide
    Fake isreal or Real Israel people decide .

    The only one who ever practiced pure religion was Jesus Christ and all we mankind put Him on a tree and spit on Him .


    Only the beast thinks technology will save him .

    What has mankind's hands have brought forth in the past 5000+ years , death, misery , false religion , rebellion against the SPIRIT .

    Now we gape at our idols in wonder
    As they rise towards the heavens in thunder.
    Pray that TV and hash
    Cause intelligence crash:
    Awful morons too stupid to blunder.

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  • @Mr. Anon
    That wasn't a NASA launch. It was a pure SpaceX endeavor.

    And how is it "pretty clear" that it isn't the Sun? What do you mean?

    Also, is it your contention that - not only did humans never land on the moon - but that humans have never launched anything into space? Are you a flat-earther too?

    Short answer; Contrary to what you have been told, humans have never ventured further than a couple hundred miles above the earth’s surface at any time, with the earth’s surface being in the form of a sphere.

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    Short answer; Contrary to what you have been told, humans have never ventured further than a couple hundred miles above the earth’s surface at any time, with the earth’s surface being in the form of a sphere.
     
    Short answer: You are a cretin, who likely knows nothing about the topic at all. Humans did indeed walk on the Moon. A lot of stupid people seem to believe that they did not.
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  • @Twodees Partain
    "I wouldn’t be surprised if SpaceX moves to a different country, maybe somewhere in Asia,"

    I would be very surprised. The US is perfect for a scam hustler like Musk. Any government with reasonable fiscal controls would refuse to subsidize Musk.

    I’m quite sure if he applied for employment at the Russian space agency, he’d get the old horse laugh.

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  • Taylor Preston should be trolled into oblivion with constant requests, demands and reminders that she should helping getting BLACK WOMEN and BLACK MEN, and INDIANs and ASIANs and HISPANIC/LATINOS and other “People of Color” into STEM and the space industry…

    completely bypassing HER as necessary element to diversity. White women need to be bracketed with the white men they so despise, and have tried desperately to separate themselves from–as a reminder that they are NOT minorities as white women.

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  • @George Taylor

    It really pisses me off that we may have yet another piece of space junk orbiting the Earth
     
    Once again I'm doing internet research for those who won't. The Tesla is not orbiting the earth, it's orbiting the sun. One of the objectives of this test launch was to break out of earth orbit, which is successfully did. In it's apogee, the car will be 250 million miles from the Earth. In the millennia to come, the Tesla's orbit will cross paths with Earth and Mars, and due to various gravitational pulls, solar wind it will likely crash into the Sun or maybe back to Earth. But that is millions of years away.

    And regarding government subsidies to Musk’s various companies. They pale in comparison to what Lockheed Martin, Boeing get. Remember 2008 and TARP money to Citibank, Bank of America and many more. Dwarfs anything the Musk companies have received.

    I’d be interested in learning how you went about proving any of this is actually occurred? Or is that a minor detail that’s, in no way, important to the story?

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    I’d be interested in learning how you went about proving any of this is actually occurred? Or is that a minor detail that’s, in no way, important to the story?
     
    Can you prove you exist? Why should anybody care what you say, given that you don't exist?

    People like you are tiresome bores who accomplish nothing, and leave nothing on this Earth of any value.
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  • @Brabantian
    Paul Kersey writes above of people who "got us on the moon" har-har-har ... Elon Musk knows the truth I think and is playing a giant goof on us

    This 'story' that 50 years ago this December, the USA somehow began the first of nine 'voyages to the moon' in 1968-72, with six alleged 'moon landings' ... and no one going back ever since HA

    3 days before his death on 7 March 1999, Stanley Kubrick confessed to fellow film-maker T Patrick Murray, that he had faked the films of the USA claimed 6 'moon landings' of 1969-1972, an era when the CIA had its own film studios at Laurel Canyon, California

    "Kubrick made it clear that he had agreed to the interview for a very specific purpose. He knew that he was close to death & he wanted to get something monumental off his chest before he died. Almost immediately after sitting down, he proceeded to tell the stunned interviewer that the moon landings were fake & he himself had been the director in charge of the filming proceedings.

    T (T. Patrick Murray): That we didn't land on the moon, you're saying?

    K (Stanley Kubrick): No, we didn't. It was not real.

    T: The moon landings were fake?

    K: A, a, a ... fictional moon landing. A fantasy. It was not real.

    T: The moon landing in '69 ...

    K: Is total fiction. I perpetrated a huge fraud on the American public, involving the United States government & NASA, that the moon landings were faked, that the moon landings ALL were faked, & I was the person who filmed it.

    T: Why did they have to fake it? Why would they have to do that?

    K: Because it is impossible to get there.
     
    Here's the Onion version of Kubrick's 'men landing on the moon' official hoax films Kubrick made for NASA, with the 're-discovered original audio transmissions' full of four-letter words & other irreverent language, 3min hilarious LOL brilliant 'Houston, we're on the f-cking moon, over'
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIkHLO93lCA

    Isn’t it amazing what America could do before the era of diversity and affirmative action? So amazing, it’s spawned a whole class of conspiracy theorists claiming it never happened.

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  • @George Taylor
    I was watching the Space X produced online broadcast of the launching of the Falcon Heavy and I noticed in the anchor seat one named Lauren Lyons.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbSwFU6tY1c

    Of course a find like Lauren (FYI, I have no doubt she is in W. E. B. Du Bois's, Talented Tenth) is going to be show cased by any tech firms PR department to obscure the fact the lions share of the talent is Male, White and or Asian. Look at us, look at us! we have a Black female. FYI she has her own web site. http://www.lauren-lyons.com/#main But I really wonder how much hard core engineering she does? And what few Black scientist and engineers there are in the world, why do they always end up being the broadcasters, the narrators, the face? Ala Neil deGrasse Tyson

    PS I bet she makes big $$$

    She’s very good on camera too. Like you say, great find.

    I also have to wonder what she actually does day-to-day at SpaceX, but seeing as she went to the trouble of getting a bachelor’s in Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering from Princeton, I say more power to her.

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  • @Renoman
    Like most business men I am sure Elon hires the brightest and best, I expect that if he ran across a top Female engineer he would hire her in a flash. There are many jobs better suited to men, I am a Carpenter, not many Women in my trade but if I needed a Carpenter and a Woman was better qualified than the Men who applied I would not hesitate to hire her either. It's always about the money, best for the least, it's how the World works and all the hollering and legislation will not change it. If you want to be successful you better get your sword out.

    Your comment centers around two un-realized ifs: “If” Elon Musk ran across a top female engineer he’d hire her, and “if” you could find a qualified woman carpenter you’d hire her… May I remind you of the ancient adage stating that; “if” a frog had wings, he wouldn’t be bumping his ass on the ground every time he jumped.

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  • @Bill Jones
    These morons seriously seem to believe that talent is evenly distributed across the races and between the sexes.
    It Isn't.

    My own little theory, for which I have very little support, is that white guys managed to create the world that every one wants to live in because of the 3% or so of neanderthal DNA-

    Bill, I support your little theory. Neanderthal average brain size was 1600cc for males and 1300cc for females. The largest Neanderthal brain found so far(fossils are rare) is a male with 1736cc. The Neanderthal home range was Western Europe, with later migrations to Syria and East Central Asia. Modern Homo Sapiens average brain size is males 1400cc, females 1250cc. One small error in your comment is the percentage of Neanderthal DNA, White Europeans have 0.3% Neanderthal DNA, which is alot, consider that 3% is the difference between a chimpanzee and a human.

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  • @George Taylor

    It really pisses me off that we may have yet another piece of space junk orbiting the Earth
     
    Once again I'm doing internet research for those who won't. The Tesla is not orbiting the earth, it's orbiting the sun. One of the objectives of this test launch was to break out of earth orbit, which is successfully did. In it's apogee, the car will be 250 million miles from the Earth. In the millennia to come, the Tesla's orbit will cross paths with Earth and Mars, and due to various gravitational pulls, solar wind it will likely crash into the Sun or maybe back to Earth. But that is millions of years away.

    And regarding government subsidies to Musk’s various companies. They pale in comparison to what Lockheed Martin, Boeing get. Remember 2008 and TARP money to Citibank, Bank of America and many more. Dwarfs anything the Musk companies have received.

    You should have continued using the internet. What you’ll find is that subsidization from the taxpayers or the Government is the norm. Doing more research could shred the entire premise of the op-ed: “Elon Musk Points Up America’s Dilemma – Endless hand outs and abject poverty? (It has both)”

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  • @FKA Max
    Elon Musk on how Falcon Heavy will change space travel

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7LJIuB2CHE

    How and why a Tesla Roadster now orbits Earth

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-qcarGmb2g

    i love how people hold this musk fellow in high regards . ANYONE who calls himself a true inventor and profits billions and tries to control his inventions to such a degree . Proves by HIS WORKS he serves mammon and not the people .
    Guess what musk , real inventors get slaughtered in real life because they actually care for mankind and want to give away freely what they have been given freely .
    Stanley meyer , and a one with last name ogle to name a couple of true inventors

    If this was “essential ” technology as he claims why is it so controlled ?

    They have sold their souls for billions and a bunch of sluts and a fake wanna be god .

    They , the musk type believe that man was genetically engineered from apes rather than a separate creation of the infinite SPIRIT

    Sorry if your hypothesis of evolution is real , answer these few simple questions please

    Why does mankind put clothes on ?

    Why does mankind smile ?

    Why does mankind laugh ?

    Mankind is sick because they have put Jesus Christ the INFINITE SPIRIT Living Creator from their hearts and choose this temporary fleshly abode .

    Folks Jesus Christ ,not man made religion now . If you define religion as how James (half brother ) of Jesus Christ defined it . NOT one man on earth has pure religion , therefore religion as seen in this world at this day is not religion .

    Animal kingdom or Spirtual kingdom folks decide
    Fake isreal or Real Israel people decide .

    The only one who ever practiced pure religion was Jesus Christ and all we mankind put Him on a tree and spit on Him .

    Only the beast thinks technology will save him .

    What has mankind’s hands have brought forth in the past 5000+ years , death, misery , false religion , rebellion against the SPIRIT .

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    Now we gape at our idols in wonder
    As they rise towards the heavens in thunder.
    Pray that TV and hash
    Cause intelligence crash:
    Awful morons too stupid to blunder.
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  • @anony-mouse
    '...Only Jewish orgs like Tesla and Google ...'

    Anybody got a list of all the non-Jews who people here just know are 'really' Jewish'?

    Apparently just about every successful White guy on the planet is Jewish. And even if you’re only 1/16 Jewish you’re still in league with the Elders of Zion. Kind of undermines the WN white pride movement. Where can a white guy find a successful role model?

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  • @jacques sheete

    Elon Musk is a crude corrupt scam artist. It is amazing how many people fall for his crap. He is milking the government by using subsidies.
     
    I hope (and suspect) yer correct.

    It really pisses me off that we may have yet another piece of space junk orbiting the Earth. What next, billboards and strip malls?

    It really pisses me off that we may have yet another piece of space junk orbiting the Earth

    Once again I’m doing internet research for those who won’t. The Tesla is not orbiting the earth, it’s orbiting the sun. One of the objectives of this test launch was to break out of earth orbit, which is successfully did. In it’s apogee, the car will be 250 million miles from the Earth. In the millennia to come, the Tesla’s orbit will cross paths with Earth and Mars, and due to various gravitational pulls, solar wind it will likely crash into the Sun or maybe back to Earth. But that is millions of years away.

    And regarding government subsidies to Musk’s various companies. They pale in comparison to what Lockheed Martin, Boeing get. Remember 2008 and TARP money to Citibank, Bank of America and many more. Dwarfs anything the Musk companies have received.

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    You should have continued using the internet. What you'll find is that subsidization from the taxpayers or the Government is the norm. Doing more research could shred the entire premise of the op-ed: "Elon Musk Points Up America’s Dilemma – Endless hand outs and abject poverty? (It has both)"
    , @Carroll Price
    I'd be interested in learning how you went about proving any of this is actually occurred? Or is that a minor detail that's, in no way, important to the story?
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  • Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Johnny Smoggins
    And the Chinese are ruthlessly colonizing Africa too. But unlike the British, French and Belgians, I doubt they'll leave behind a civil structure, transportation network, medical system or universities when they're done.

    Do you offer your opinion based on facts or figment of your imagination?

    Here in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia’s capital, China is driving an urban renaissance. It has built whole neighborhoods, a $475-million light-railway system and even the African Union headquarters, a $200-million complex that dominates the city’s skyline. In the country’s hinterlands, it has constructed several industrial parks, anticipating a manufacturing boom.

    In Ethiopia, the country’s rail executives said China seems more attuned to Africa’s needs.

    “China doesn’t give simple aid,” Getachew said. “They do give loans. You work, and you return back. That’s a good policy. Aid is just making slavery.”

    For decades, the China-Africa relationship was almost entirely transactional: China gave African states easy loans, enabling them to build bridges and stadiums; in return, those states gave China access to natural resources, such as oil, timber and nickel, fueling China’s economic boom.

    But as China’s foreign policy grows more sophisticated — and more ambitious — that era is ending, and the relationship is growing much deeper, with extraordinary implications for the continent’s future.

    http://www.latimes.com/world/asia/la-fg-china-africa-ethiopia-20170804-htmlstory.html

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    Yes, I'm sure they're doing this out of pure humanitarianism right?

    This is being done to push the US/Europe out of Africa, leaving themselves as masters of the continent. Don't get me wrong, brilliant strategy, but let's see it for what it is; geopolitics.

    There's no such thing as a free lunch, especially when you're dealing with people as ruthless and cutthroat in business as the Chinese. A favoured Chinese business tactic is to get a customer indebted to the businessman first. This is what we're seeing here.
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  • @Rod1963
    The Chinese being a pragmatic no nonsense people don't suffer from the menta affirmatives that beset white, liberal Americans.

    The Blacks in Africa will either carry their own weight or be replaced by Chinese. Since the blacks have shown no capacity for animal husbandry or having a work ethic, I doubt the Chinese will keep many of them around long term.

    No great loss.

    Negroes are children–expensive and troublesome

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  • @jacques sheete

    I doubt they’ll leave behind a civil structure, transportation network, medical system or universities when they’re done.
     
    I also doubt that they'll leave behind buckets of hands lopped off for not gathering enough latex ( ala Leopold's Belgian Congo), dead areas due to aerial spraying of poison (ala Mussolini in Ethiopia), or concentration camps (ala the Brits in Kenya even into the 1950s).

    And I haven't even mentioned South Africa or Morocco, or Somalia or Libya or, (fill in the blank_____).

    The Chinese being a pragmatic no nonsense people don’t suffer from the menta affirmatives that beset white, liberal Americans.

    The Blacks in Africa will either carry their own weight or be replaced by Chinese. Since the blacks have shown no capacity for animal husbandry or having a work ethic, I doubt the Chinese will keep many of them around long term.

    No great loss.

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    Negroes are children--expensive and troublesome
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  • @Realist 2018

    How about music, is diversity good or bad? Scott Joplin and the other black rag time innovators were responsible for Anglo-American musical dominance. OK throw in some Jews like Gershwin and Herb Alpert.
     
    Gershwin sucked ass. "Porky" and Bess was the worst f-ing opera I've ever seen. It was a disgrace to even call it an opera.

    Gershwin’s forte wasn’t opera–a great songwriter (and his brother Ira was a damn good lyricist)

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  • @George
    How about music, is diversity good or bad? Scott Joplin and the other black rag time innovators were responsible for Anglo-American musical dominance. OK throw in some Jews like Gershwin and Herb Alpert.

    How about music, is diversity good or bad? Scott Joplin and the other black rag time innovators were responsible for Anglo-American musical dominance. OK throw in some Jews like Gershwin and Herb Alpert.

    Gershwin sucked ass. “Porky” and Bess was the worst f-ing opera I’ve ever seen. It was a disgrace to even call it an opera.

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    Gershwin's forte wasn't opera--a great songwriter (and his brother Ira was a damn good lyricist)
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  • These morons seriously seem to believe that talent is evenly distributed across the races and between the sexes.
    It Isn’t.

    My own little theory, for which I have very little support, is that white guys managed to create the world that every one wants to live in because of the 3% or so of neanderthal DNA-

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    Bill, I support your little theory. Neanderthal average brain size was 1600cc for males and 1300cc for females. The largest Neanderthal brain found so far(fossils are rare) is a male with 1736cc. The Neanderthal home range was Western Europe, with later migrations to Syria and East Central Asia. Modern Homo Sapiens average brain size is males 1400cc, females 1250cc. One small error in your comment is the percentage of Neanderthal DNA, White Europeans have 0.3% Neanderthal DNA, which is alot, consider that 3% is the difference between a chimpanzee and a human.
    , @Carroll Price
    Your theory makes as much, if not more sense than most.
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  • @FKA Max
    Elon Musk on how Falcon Heavy will change space travel

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7LJIuB2CHE

    How and why a Tesla Roadster now orbits Earth

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-qcarGmb2g

    Peter Thiel is leaving the Bay Area and moving to LA. I wonder if he will be collaborating with Steve Bannon on his new media venture?

    Why Peter Thiel is leaving Silicon Valley

    Citing what they called Silicon Valley’s “sclerotic” culture and “conformity of thought,” a source close to Thiel told CNNMoney that the investor would soon move to Los Angeles, where he will “focus on a number of new projects including creating a new media endeavor.”
    [...]
    The Wall Street Journal, which broke the news of Thiel’s move, reported Thursday that Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg even asked Thiel to consider resigning from his company’s board last summer. This came after Netflix CEO Reed Hastings, another Facebook board member, reportedly criticized what he called Thiel’s “catastrophically bad judgment” in supporting Trump.

    http://money.cnn.com/2018/02/15/technology/peter-thiel-leaving-silicon-valley/index.html

    Also, this is what the former director of batteries at Tesla is up to now:

    Tesla’s Former Battery Director Joins Farming Startup Plenty

    “At Tesla I was employee number fifty or sixty,” Kelty said in an interview. “It’s a very different company from when I joined. I wanted to figure out where I would contribute to the next big wave. I see my next 10-year-run as growing Plenty.”

    Japanese telecommunications giant SoftBank led a $200 million investment in Plenty in July. The startup is betting that with its technology and the backing of SoftBank Chief Executive Officer Masayoshi Son, it has the connections and capital to accelerate international development. Plenty says it can yield up to 350 times more produce in a given area than conventional farms — with 1 percent of the water.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-16/tesla-s-former-battery-director-joins-farming-startup-plenty

    Kelty is the latest in a long-list of Tesla executives to have departed the company, with at least 20 names counted in just the past 12 months in the following list of TSLA executive departures compiled by @WallStCynic. While the real reason for Kelty’s departure remains unknown, judging by the list below, shortsville may just end up having the final laugh.

    Source: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-01/teslas-veteran-battery-technology-director-unexpectedly-quits

    This is the only way to deal with the overpopulation and overconsumption problem.

    Jeff Bezos is backing the project as well:

    A new Jeff Bezos-backed warehouse farm will grow enough produce to feed over 180,000 people per year

    Following a $200 million investment this summer — the largest agriculture-tech funding round in history — vertical farming startup Plenty is expanding beyond its Bay Area roots.

    The company is opening a second farm in the greater Seattle area, Plenty CEO Matt Barnard told Business Insider. Located in Kent, Washington, the 100,000-square-foot warehouse facility will grow 4.5 million pounds of greens annually, which is enough to feed around 183,600 Americans, according to the USDA.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/vertical-farming-company-plenty-investment-second-farm-seattle-2017-11

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    "This is the only way to deal with the overpopulation and overconsumption problem."

    Well, no, it's not the only way. We've got plenty of ways, from resistant pandemics to mass shootings. Better ways to feed the excess population looks more like enabling the next and far worse stage of the problem.
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  • @Realist 2018
    Harvard's affirmative action admits (B&H) are now up to almost 30%. All those grievance studies majors (ethnic/regional/gender/religious "studies") need jobs. Obama tried to hire as many of them as he could, but he's no longer around, plus the private sector pays a lot better. Thanks to the WOKE Silicon Valley, the Grievance Studies to Grievance Industry pipeline is now in place.

    that’s why Harvard’s reputation (brand) is slipping–when Malia ‘Affirmative Action’ Obama is your face, the truly talented will seek refuge at less diverse schools

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  • How about music, is diversity good or bad? Scott Joplin and the other black rag time innovators were responsible for Anglo-American musical dominance. OK throw in some Jews like Gershwin and Herb Alpert.

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    How about music, is diversity good or bad? Scott Joplin and the other black rag time innovators were responsible for Anglo-American musical dominance. OK throw in some Jews like Gershwin and Herb Alpert.
     
    Gershwin sucked ass. "Porky" and Bess was the worst f-ing opera I've ever seen. It was a disgrace to even call it an opera.
    , @Carroll Price
    When the term diversity is being discussed, it's usually assumed to be in reference to forced diversity. That is, forcing minorities into positions and roles for which they have no natural talent or intellect. Since Blacks happen to be naturally good at music and sports, diversity does not become an issue, whereas forcing them into roles of performing as a rocket scientist is.
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  • At the next launch, all SpaceX employees should appear on camera wearing Darth Vader masks.

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  • Harvard’s affirmative action admits (B&H) are now up to almost 30%. All those grievance studies majors (ethnic/regional/gender/religious “studies”) need jobs. Obama tried to hire as many of them as he could, but he’s no longer around, plus the private sector pays a lot better. Thanks to the WOKE Silicon Valley, the Grievance Studies to Grievance Industry pipeline is now in place.

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    that's why Harvard's reputation (brand) is slipping--when Malia 'Affirmative Action' Obama is your face, the truly talented will seek refuge at less diverse schools
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  • America won’t go to Mars (as in colonizing), the most intellectually advanced, and racially homogeneous nation will. So it’s a battle between China, Japan and for whatever it’s worth, Russia. Or “Astronauts operating outside of Russia”. (AOOR)

    People see the welfare state, in all it’s forms, everywhere, all day, around and among them. They never seem to realize that the lowering IQ (and birth rate of high IQ) actually matters. Americans see slower, more sloppy and rude service, less adherence to social norms, from marriage before babies, to properly stopping at stoplights and stop signs, or the service guy running 1-2 hours behind, or stupid teachers, government employees at the DMV, or the conflict between people of different race and cultural backgrounds in simple interactions at the super market. They can’t seem to grasp, or remember for some of us, that it wasn’t always that way–and it is getting worse, and will continue to do so, until we are full-on Brazil. How many men have Brazil put on the moon?

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    China is far too smart to waste money on space exploration projects that offer absolutely nothing in return.
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  • @Leisure Larry
    Musk a political coward? He doesn't have to be brave: Musk is a Jew, and America's Jewish shadow government and business establishment will protect him every step of the way.

    Musk is not Jewish

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    If he's not a Jew already, he's way over-due becoming one.
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  • I was watching the Space X produced online broadcast of the launching of the Falcon Heavy and I noticed in the anchor seat one named Lauren Lyons.

    Of course a find like Lauren (FYI, I have no doubt she is in W. E. B. Du Bois’s, Talented Tenth) is going to be show cased by any tech firms PR department to obscure the fact the lions share of the talent is Male, White and or Asian. Look at us, look at us! we have a Black female. FYI she has her own web site. http://www.lauren-lyons.com/#main But I really wonder how much hard core engineering she does? And what few Black scientist and engineers there are in the world, why do they always end up being the broadcasters, the narrators, the face? Ala Neil deGrasse Tyson

    PS I bet she makes big $$$

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    She's very good on camera too. Like you say, great find.

    I also have to wonder what she actually does day-to-day at SpaceX, but seeing as she went to the trouble of getting a bachelor's in Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering from Princeton, I say more power to her.
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  • @Frederick V. Reed
    Tesla Recruits Mexican enginers
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tesla-mexico/tesla-recruiting-engineers-in-mexico-for-california-plant-idUSKBN17U2X5

    I have been on the floor of SpaceX at Hawthorne and was struck by the large number of Hispanic, meaning Mexican, employees. I don't know what this means statistically but it makes me wonder about the supposed all-out discrimination.

    Oh, it’s Senor Reed!

    Yeah. Sure. Mexican engineers. Rocket scientists.

    You betcha ol’ (((Elon))) is going to fill non-critical, LCD, anti-White workers when at all possible. Operative Word is: “non-critical”.

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  • @Mr. Anon
    The supposed interview you linked to was a bunch of disjointed sound-clips edited together, and is almost unintelligible. Do you have a link to an actual interview, because that wasn't one.

    By the way, do you believe the Earth is flat? Yes or No?

    He’s right. NASA never went to the moon. While it’s true that American-made rockets went to the moon, American-made cars drove around on the moon, and American-made rockets returned from the moon, none of it was made by NASA.

    NASA was the government agency that funneled the money to various private companies that created, operated and launched the moon exploration missions. They also supplied the warm bodies that went along for the ride.

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    You are right that contractors built the vehicles. However NASA operated them. NASA was actually heavily involved in the design, testing and fabrication too. That was back when NASA was a competent organization. It isn't one any longer.
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  • @Toby Keith
    Affirmative Action is but one of dozens of social engineering schemes Jews created to genocide White people. It's rather Hasbara to foist blame on Nixon.

    I was there when Nixon implemented affirmative action. He was president when it was done. His appointee as head of the EEOC was a Jew named Levine. It was Levine who turned the EEOC from do not discriminate against Qualified blacks into SHALL discriminate against qualified Whites in favor of unqualified blacks.

    Most of the attorneys for the anti White side of the affirmative action lawsuits were Jews. Nixon’s handler and overlord was Kissinger who gave the orders for America’s intervention in Israel’s 1973 war and guided the presidency.

    Nixon obeyed all the Jews orders, the 73 war, vicious ferociously enforced affirmative action, section 8, endless funding for black Hispanic and Jewish activist groups including the Black Panthers and LARAZA, On orders from Jews Nixon created the Hispanic race by executive order just in time for the 1970 census. Immediately his EEOC made them affirmative action beneficiaries.

    Johnson enacted the 64 civil rights law, the 65 third world immigration law and the 68 affirmative action law.

    But it was Nixon who implemented their anti White bias far, far beyond the wording of the laws.

    Interesting that Nixon did everything jews liberals and communists wanted him to do from the 73 day war to inventing the Hispanic race.

    But was soon as his work was done for them the Jews of the WAPO and the rest of the media turned on him and drove him from office.

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    • Replies: @Carroll Price
    Nixon's problem was that he knew the names of those who ordered Kennedy's assassination, and was in the process of procuring documents with which to prove it, thus blackmailing an Establishment that hated his guts.
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  • Tesla Recruits Mexican enginers

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tesla-mexico/tesla-recruiting-engineers-in-mexico-for-california-plant-idUSKBN17U2X5

    I have been on the floor of SpaceX at Hawthorne and was struck by the large number of Hispanic, meaning Mexican, employees. I don’t know what this means statistically but it makes me wonder about the supposed all-out discrimination.

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    Oh, it's Senor Reed!

    Yeah. Sure. Mexican engineers. Rocket scientists.

    You betcha ol' (((Elon))) is going to fill non-critical, LCD, anti-White workers when at all possible. Operative Word is: "non-critical".
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  • @Nils
    Here you see a damage control video of the fake cgi roadster flying. Virtualy all youtube comments on this have been removed now as youtube and google are heavily censoring these days.

    But even in this video it is pretty clear that it is not the sun behind the fake doors.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Rm-adcoGes

    Again a Big Lie by Nasa at all.

    That wasn’t a NASA launch. It was a pure SpaceX endeavor.

    And how is it “pretty clear” that it isn’t the Sun? What do you mean?

    Also, is it your contention that – not only did humans never land on the moon – but that humans have never launched anything into space? Are you a flat-earther too?

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    Short answer; Contrary to what you have been told, humans have never ventured further than a couple hundred miles above the earth's surface at any time, with the earth's surface being in the form of a sphere.
    , @WhiteWolf
    Space yes. Manned moon landing no. Flat earth no. Tesla roadster in space? Possible but who knows. It's an expensive advertsing campaign.

    We are sold fake terror events and school shootings as real events so blindly trusting any information is not wise.
    , @Nils
    If it was the sun, where did he go? Better call it greenscreen technique, not cgi. And where are the stars, stars are everywhere around us, apart from a roadster. Entirely fake, like the rocket landings.
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  • I’m not surprised by the dearth of NAM and females because that reflects the makeup of STEM graduates. What is interesting is the dearth of Asians given the fact they are roughly somewhere around the majority of STEM graduates. I think that Whites are more motivated by the Faustian impulse of space exploration and are willing to take a job at someplace like NASA or SpaceX that basically just give you a nice salary (and in the case of NASA an honest to goodness real pension). In my experience many Asians are more entrepreneurial and interested in getting in on a startup like the next Google or Apple where they can get equity and a chance at an eight digit fortune.

    I’m skeptical of SpaceX though. If the boosters are operated in recoverable mode the actual payload capacity is what you saw in this launch; a lightweight sports car. In 1963 NASA solicited design proposals for the next gen Nova ultra heavy lifter. The specification was for a low earth orbit payload capacity of one million pounds, with an option of operating the boosters in reusable mode and a payload of six hundred thousand pounds. This was NASA’s carrier for the programs envisioned in 2001: A Space Odyssey, giant space stations, moon colonies, and manned exploration of the planets.
    As Paul often points out the so-called War on Poverty, the War in Vietnam and all the rest that followed killed the plans to go to the stars. The civil rights leaders in the mule cart at the Apollo 11 launch won after all.

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  • I would be very surprised. The US is perfect for a scam hustler like Musk. Any government with reasonable fiscal controls would refuse to subsidize Musk.

    SpaceX’s business is supplying the launch market which is largely government paid-for. You can call that a subsidy if you want, but it is no more subsidized than Boeing or Lockheed-Martin. SpaceX delivers a lot more for the money than NASA does.

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    That's the argument against SpaceX being subsidized? SpaceX is about as subsidized as defense contractors?
    , @Anonymous
    The vast majority of NASA's budget was for secret military research that not even the politicians knew about. Manned spaceflight was always a theatrical rather than scientific endeavor. A show put on to keep the public and their representatives entertained and to explain where all that money was going. It should be no surprise that the end of the Cold War also eventually brought an end to NASA's manned spaceflight program.
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  • @Johnny Smoggins
    And the Chinese are ruthlessly colonizing Africa too. But unlike the British, French and Belgians, I doubt they'll leave behind a civil structure, transportation network, medical system or universities when they're done.

    Yeah the ones the first colonizers left have really been put to good use.

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  • @anonymous
    But I saw The Martian at the movies a couple years ago. There were black geniuses who saved the day in the movie so I know they must exist somewhere. Also the movie Hidden Figures showed us once and for all how the space program couldn't have gotten off the ground without black talent. These movies prove that black genius is what brought us to where we are. Turn on the television for more proof.
    It's pretty apparent that diversity has become a massive racket. Wonder how many people there are who make a living being parasites in the diversity industry leeching on the productive sectors?

    Dr Kevin Macdonald has written about the careers and money involved in working in the diversity (aka anti White) industry.

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  • @Brabantian
    Paul Kersey writes above of people who "got us on the moon" har-har-har ... Elon Musk knows the truth I think and is playing a giant goof on us

    This 'story' that 50 years ago this December, the USA somehow began the first of nine 'voyages to the moon' in 1968-72, with six alleged 'moon landings' ... and no one going back ever since HA

    3 days before his death on 7 March 1999, Stanley Kubrick confessed to fellow film-maker T Patrick Murray, that he had faked the films of the USA claimed 6 'moon landings' of 1969-1972, an era when the CIA had its own film studios at Laurel Canyon, California

    "Kubrick made it clear that he had agreed to the interview for a very specific purpose. He knew that he was close to death & he wanted to get something monumental off his chest before he died. Almost immediately after sitting down, he proceeded to tell the stunned interviewer that the moon landings were fake & he himself had been the director in charge of the filming proceedings.

    T (T. Patrick Murray): That we didn't land on the moon, you're saying?

    K (Stanley Kubrick): No, we didn't. It was not real.

    T: The moon landings were fake?

    K: A, a, a ... fictional moon landing. A fantasy. It was not real.

    T: The moon landing in '69 ...

    K: Is total fiction. I perpetrated a huge fraud on the American public, involving the United States government & NASA, that the moon landings were faked, that the moon landings ALL were faked, & I was the person who filmed it.

    T: Why did they have to fake it? Why would they have to do that?

    K: Because it is impossible to get there.
     
    Here's the Onion version of Kubrick's 'men landing on the moon' official hoax films Kubrick made for NASA, with the 're-discovered original audio transmissions' full of four-letter words & other irreverent language, 3min hilarious LOL brilliant 'Houston, we're on the f-cking moon, over'
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIkHLO93lCA

    Fascinating. Who knows what our government really does. Those were the years affirmative action was implemented. Is there a connection?

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  • @fnn
    Newsweek writer says that Newsweek is too unimportant to concern yourself with:

    Imagine a purported thought leader in a political movement crying like a sad baby on social media every day about the reporting in literally Newsweek. You're embarrassing yourself, Mike.— Michael Edison Hayden (@MichaelEHayden) February 16, 2018
     

    Ha! Maybe for once Newsweek is right.

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  • @Ilyana_Rozumova
    Women have infinitely more important role in society than man, This role is creating and bringing up next generation of children that are stronger better and more intelligent than this one.
    Feminism is evil because it is redirecting women's ambitions to compete with man.
    Man should be capable to create and supply all the material needs of the society.

    Good points, but I would suggest that you use the word “men” in this context.

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  • @Brabantian
    Paul Kersey writes above of people who "got us on the moon" har-har-har ... Elon Musk knows the truth I think and is playing a giant goof on us

    This 'story' that 50 years ago this December, the USA somehow began the first of nine 'voyages to the moon' in 1968-72, with six alleged 'moon landings' ... and no one going back ever since HA

    3 days before his death on 7 March 1999, Stanley Kubrick confessed to fellow film-maker T Patrick Murray, that he had faked the films of the USA claimed 6 'moon landings' of 1969-1972, an era when the CIA had its own film studios at Laurel Canyon, California

    "Kubrick made it clear that he had agreed to the interview for a very specific purpose. He knew that he was close to death & he wanted to get something monumental off his chest before he died. Almost immediately after sitting down, he proceeded to tell the stunned interviewer that the moon landings were fake & he himself had been the director in charge of the filming proceedings.

    T (T. Patrick Murray): That we didn't land on the moon, you're saying?

    K (Stanley Kubrick): No, we didn't. It was not real.

    T: The moon landings were fake?

    K: A, a, a ... fictional moon landing. A fantasy. It was not real.

    T: The moon landing in '69 ...

    K: Is total fiction. I perpetrated a huge fraud on the American public, involving the United States government & NASA, that the moon landings were faked, that the moon landings ALL were faked, & I was the person who filmed it.

    T: Why did they have to fake it? Why would they have to do that?

    K: Because it is impossible to get there.
     
    Here's the Onion version of Kubrick's 'men landing on the moon' official hoax films Kubrick made for NASA, with the 're-discovered original audio transmissions' full of four-letter words & other irreverent language, 3min hilarious LOL brilliant 'Houston, we're on the f-cking moon, over'
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIkHLO93lCA

    Here you see a damage control video of the fake cgi roadster flying. Virtualy all youtube comments on this have been removed now as youtube and google are heavily censoring these days.

    But even in this video it is pretty clear that it is not the sun behind the fake doors.

    Again a Big Lie by Nasa at all.

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    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    That wasn't a NASA launch. It was a pure SpaceX endeavor.

    And how is it "pretty clear" that it isn't the Sun? What do you mean?

    Also, is it your contention that - not only did humans never land on the moon - but that humans have never launched anything into space? Are you a flat-earther too?
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  • @Pseudonymic Handle
    A massive racket can't build a massive rocket.

    Of course it can. Oh, wait a minute, you obviously assume that NASA is NOT a massive racket. As you were, Colonel.

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  • @Polish Perspective
    It seems to me that China will surpass the US in most important metrics. The areas where they will lag the most will be the most advanced and engineering-heavy, such as space travel and perhaps some military applications. Though from recent news it appears the Chinese are ahead on railgun technology now, too and they are heavily investing in combat lasers.

    Ultimately it does not matter that much if the West can produce someone like Musk. As Kersey points out, the destruction of NASA in the post-1970 period was entirely self-afflicted. Musk may not be big on affirmative action, but he is a political coward and given enough pressure, he will bend. He very much wants to be part of the liberal elite. But he can't have it both ways, there's no á la carte here.

    If other countries can provide the space(pun unintended) to build a private space company without the burdensome social/racial politics, I don't see why those wouldn't become more interesting for a future Musk, someone born in a poorer country but with a lot of talent who just needs an avenue to express that talent and ambition.

    Overall, I am pleased with the relative decline of the US. I like everyday Americans, but their politics and culture is pure poison at this point. I think even many Americans will agree to this. The Chinese bans hip-hop and the US promotes negro culture. The Chinese are ruthlessly investing in space capabilities and NASA is a derelict shadow of a once glorious past. It's sad, because it's all self-inflicted. But in the end, the price has to be paid. I wouldn't be surprised if SpaceX moves to a different country, maybe somewhere in Asia, in the future if this taliban mentality regarding race and gender only intensifies.

    “I wouldn’t be surprised if SpaceX moves to a different country, maybe somewhere in Asia,”

    I would be very surprised. The US is perfect for a scam hustler like Musk. Any government with reasonable fiscal controls would refuse to subsidize Musk.

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    • Replies: @Carroll Price
    I'm quite sure if he applied for employment at the Russian space agency, he'd get the old horse laugh.
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  • @Leisure Larry
    Musk a political coward? He doesn't have to be brave: Musk is a Jew, and America's Jewish shadow government and business establishment will protect him every step of the way.

    Musk is not Jewish you shmuck.

    He somehow has a Hebrew name but he’s not Jewish.

    Don’t get me wrong – it would be nice if he was Jewish and I’m sure he employs a lot of Jews – but he’s not one himself.

    Go take your meds…..

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  • Newsweek writer says that Newsweek is too unimportant to concern yourself with:

    Imagine a purported thought leader in a political movement crying like a sad baby on social media every day about the reporting in literally Newsweek. You're embarrassing yourself, Mike.— Michael Edison Hayden (@MichaelEHayden) February 16, 2018

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    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
    Ha! Maybe for once Newsweek is right.
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  • Women have infinitely more important role in society than man, This role is creating and bringing up next generation of children that are stronger better and more intelligent than this one.
    Feminism is evil because it is redirecting women’s ambitions to compete with man.
    Man should be capable to create and supply all the material needs of the society.

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    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
    Good points, but I would suggest that you use the word "men" in this context.
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  • I doubt they’ll leave behind a civil structure, transportation network, medical system or universities when they’re done.

    I also doubt that they’ll leave behind buckets of hands lopped off for not gathering enough latex ( ala Leopold’s Belgian Congo), dead areas due to aerial spraying of poison (ala Mussolini in Ethiopia), or concentration camps (ala the Brits in Kenya even into the 1950s).

    And I haven’t even mentioned South Africa or Morocco, or Somalia or Libya or, (fill in the blank_____).

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    • Replies: @Rod1963
    The Chinese being a pragmatic no nonsense people don't suffer from the menta affirmatives that beset white, liberal Americans.

    The Blacks in Africa will either carry their own weight or be replaced by Chinese. Since the blacks have shown no capacity for animal husbandry or having a work ethic, I doubt the Chinese will keep many of them around long term.

    No great loss.
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  • I thought the same thing when I was watching the live stream of the Falcon Heavy launch.

    The answer, for future launches, is simple: require all employees to wear dark long-sleeve t-shirts.

    Problem solved, for the time being. I’m sure, however, that the U.S. Handicapper General has a plan for Elon “Harrison Bergeron” Musk and SpaceX.

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  • @Polish Perspective
    It seems to me that China will surpass the US in most important metrics. The areas where they will lag the most will be the most advanced and engineering-heavy, such as space travel and perhaps some military applications. Though from recent news it appears the Chinese are ahead on railgun technology now, too and they are heavily investing in combat lasers.

    Ultimately it does not matter that much if the West can produce someone like Musk. As Kersey points out, the destruction of NASA in the post-1970 period was entirely self-afflicted. Musk may not be big on affirmative action, but he is a political coward and given enough pressure, he will bend. He very much wants to be part of the liberal elite. But he can't have it both ways, there's no á la carte here.

    If other countries can provide the space(pun unintended) to build a private space company without the burdensome social/racial politics, I don't see why those wouldn't become more interesting for a future Musk, someone born in a poorer country but with a lot of talent who just needs an avenue to express that talent and ambition.

    Overall, I am pleased with the relative decline of the US. I like everyday Americans, but their politics and culture is pure poison at this point. I think even many Americans will agree to this. The Chinese bans hip-hop and the US promotes negro culture. The Chinese are ruthlessly investing in space capabilities and NASA is a derelict shadow of a once glorious past. It's sad, because it's all self-inflicted. But in the end, the price has to be paid. I wouldn't be surprised if SpaceX moves to a different country, maybe somewhere in Asia, in the future if this taliban mentality regarding race and gender only intensifies.

    Take away the worldwide army of Jewish publicists and promoters and you see that Musk is no more articulate or erudite than George Bush.

    Musk was born into the Global Jewish Nation and is fronting for the trllion-dollar Jew machine in the Tesla and SpaceX scams.

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  • @anonymous
    But I saw The Martian at the movies a couple years ago. There were black geniuses who saved the day in the movie so I know they must exist somewhere. Also the movie Hidden Figures showed us once and for all how the space program couldn't have gotten off the ground without black talent. These movies prove that black genius is what brought us to where we are. Turn on the television for more proof.
    It's pretty apparent that diversity has become a massive racket. Wonder how many people there are who make a living being parasites in the diversity industry leeching on the productive sectors?

    A massive racket can’t build a massive rocket.

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    • Replies: @Twodees Partain
    Of course it can. Oh, wait a minute, you obviously assume that NASA is NOT a massive racket. As you were, Colonel.
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  • @Polish Perspective
    It seems to me that China will surpass the US in most important metrics. The areas where they will lag the most will be the most advanced and engineering-heavy, such as space travel and perhaps some military applications. Though from recent news it appears the Chinese are ahead on railgun technology now, too and they are heavily investing in combat lasers.

    Ultimately it does not matter that much if the West can produce someone like Musk. As Kersey points out, the destruction of NASA in the post-1970 period was entirely self-afflicted. Musk may not be big on affirmative action, but he is a political coward and given enough pressure, he will bend. He very much wants to be part of the liberal elite. But he can't have it both ways, there's no á la carte here.

    If other countries can provide the space(pun unintended) to build a private space company without the burdensome social/racial politics, I don't see why those wouldn't become more interesting for a future Musk, someone born in a poorer country but with a lot of talent who just needs an avenue to express that talent and ambition.

    Overall, I am pleased with the relative decline of the US. I like everyday Americans, but their politics and culture is pure poison at this point. I think even many Americans will agree to this. The Chinese bans hip-hop and the US promotes negro culture. The Chinese are ruthlessly investing in space capabilities and NASA is a derelict shadow of a once glorious past. It's sad, because it's all self-inflicted. But in the end, the price has to be paid. I wouldn't be surprised if SpaceX moves to a different country, maybe somewhere in Asia, in the future if this taliban mentality regarding race and gender only intensifies.

    And the Chinese are ruthlessly colonizing Africa too. But unlike the British, French and Belgians, I doubt they’ll leave behind a civil structure, transportation network, medical system or universities when they’re done.

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    • Replies: @CK
    Yeah the ones the first colonizers left have really been put to good use.
    , @Anon
    Do you offer your opinion based on facts or figment of your imagination?

    Here in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia’s capital, China is driving an urban renaissance. It has built whole neighborhoods, a $475-million light-railway system and even the African Union headquarters, a $200-million complex that dominates the city’s skyline. In the country’s hinterlands, it has constructed several industrial parks, anticipating a manufacturing boom.

    In Ethiopia, the country’s rail executives said China seems more attuned to Africa’s needs.

    “China doesn’t give simple aid,” Getachew said. “They do give loans. You work, and you return back. That’s a good policy. Aid is just making slavery.”

    For decades, the China-Africa relationship was almost entirely transactional: China gave African states easy loans, enabling them to build bridges and stadiums; in return, those states gave China access to natural resources, such as oil, timber and nickel, fueling China’s economic boom.

    But as China's foreign policy grows more sophisticated — and more ambitious — that era is ending, and the relationship is growing much deeper, with extraordinary implications for the continent’s future.
     
    http://www.latimes.com/world/asia/la-fg-china-africa-ethiopia-20170804-htmlstory.html
    , @denk
    If these are 'brutal colonisation'...

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/07/world/africa/africa-china-train.html

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-42172955

    How'd you describe the murkkan way ?

    http://www.unz.com/ldinh/tet-offensives-hungry-china-and-dumbed-down-americans/#comment-2209809
    , @Anonymous
    The Chinese will succeed in Africa because they don't regard Africans as inferiors and mistreat them, unlike Europeans. There will never be a Chinese 'Apartheid'. There is mutual respect and admiration. There will never be the kind of hostility towards Chinese in Africa that existed towards Europeans in the colonial era.
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  • @Fidelios Automata
    Good for Musk for refusing to release "demographic data."
    It would be even better for him to say meritocracy rules, diversity is nonsense.

    If (((Musk))) released demographic data, people will start asking why he hasn’t years ago been hit with hundreds of millions of dollars of (((NAACP lawsuits))).

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  • A country that thinks that diversity is more important than merit is doomed.
    In my opinion this doom begins in education, especially universities, and in high tech companies.
    Of course also in politics.

    Sarrazin warned explicitly how immigration leads to the end of Germany.
    He, at the time still a menber of the Board of the Bundesbank, a very capable economist, was fired immediately after the book was publicised.
    Thilo Sarrazin, ‘Deutschland schafft sich ab, Wie wir unser Land aufs Spiel setzen’, München 2010

    In fact Lasch made the same warning
    Christopher Lasch, ‘The Culture of Narcissism, American Life in an Age of Diminishing Expectations’, 1979, 1980, London

    For France
    Eric Zemmour, ‘Le Suicide Francais’, 2014 Paris

    For the Netherlands
    Paul Scheffer, ‘Die Eingewanderten, Toleranz in einer grensenlosen Welt, München 2008 (Het land van aankomst, 2007)

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  • @Polish Perspective
    It seems to me that China will surpass the US in most important metrics. The areas where they will lag the most will be the most advanced and engineering-heavy, such as space travel and perhaps some military applications. Though from recent news it appears the Chinese are ahead on railgun technology now, too and they are heavily investing in combat lasers.

    Ultimately it does not matter that much if the West can produce someone like Musk. As Kersey points out, the destruction of NASA in the post-1970 period was entirely self-afflicted. Musk may not be big on affirmative action, but he is a political coward and given enough pressure, he will bend. He very much wants to be part of the liberal elite. But he can't have it both ways, there's no á la carte here.

    If other countries can provide the space(pun unintended) to build a private space company without the burdensome social/racial politics, I don't see why those wouldn't become more interesting for a future Musk, someone born in a poorer country but with a lot of talent who just needs an avenue to express that talent and ambition.

    Overall, I am pleased with the relative decline of the US. I like everyday Americans, but their politics and culture is pure poison at this point. I think even many Americans will agree to this. The Chinese bans hip-hop and the US promotes negro culture. The Chinese are ruthlessly investing in space capabilities and NASA is a derelict shadow of a once glorious past. It's sad, because it's all self-inflicted. But in the end, the price has to be paid. I wouldn't be surprised if SpaceX moves to a different country, maybe somewhere in Asia, in the future if this taliban mentality regarding race and gender only intensifies.

    Musk a political coward? He doesn’t have to be brave: Musk is a Jew, and America’s Jewish shadow government and business establishment will protect him every step of the way.

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    • Replies: @Sherman
    Musk is not Jewish you shmuck.

    He somehow has a Hebrew name but he's not Jewish.

    Don't get me wrong - it would be nice if he was Jewish and I'm sure he employs a lot of Jews - but he's not one himself.

    Go take your meds.....
    , @Meretricious
    Musk is not Jewish
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