Are you familiar with the Hindu Vedas?

Without the Romans VALACI you will speak your language for sure

And as a result you will get …you know what

Realy?

And you were put there by whom?

Nope – Northern Europe is a small contributor to the genetic schemozzle within my cells.

Dad’s paternal side is Huguenot (the farthest back we’ve traced his family tree is to a Huguenot dude who settled near the Severn in Shropshire in the mid-1500s – before the Edict of St Germain); his maternal side is Celtiberian (quite literally – Spanish and Irish).

Mum’s paternal side is Maori; her maternal side is Danish.

So like pretty much any white(-ish) guy, I’m a Heinz-57 mélange of Scando, Mediterranean (and therefore, in all likelihood, Arab, somewhere), Anglo-Saxon and Celtic genetic material. Throw in some wild-eyed, tattoo’d, brown-skinned Polynesian cannibals and you get a linebacker-sized hairy bloke with a bit of a temper… and somehow, out of all the chaos, an IQ more than 2 s.d. above the median. (I also have the distinctly Maori tendency to not take white-folks obsession about race seriously: Maori culture is far more about values and physical prowess, than the regional origin of your gametes).

Put simply: I am a living embodiment of the benefits of heterosis (“hybrid vigour”; longevity; physical robustness; absence of breed-specific allergies/weaknesses).

In the same way that pure-bred dogs can end up being evolutionary dead-ends, people who get all race-conscious in their breeding habits end up having to take account of race-specific problems, e.g., Tay-Sachs.

Attractive comment

Only a few detailed missing in there.
Who civilized Europe?

The Celts, The Germans,The Slavs, The Huns, The so called Scythians, The Barbarians from the north of Europe?

No way

Only the Romans, Greeks, Thracians, Asia Minor people

No matter how you in the north you turn it it is a fact that those people civilized you, the barbarians of the north and they were also your lords

So based on your IQ I guess that you must be from north Europe

Who else can you be with such an IQ?

They were European and the writer is actually asking what ethno-linguistic group they were ??? Italic & Hellenic of course . And Europeans are genetically homogeneous so we should all be proud of our ancestors.

This article and a broad swathe of the comments are both pretty funny – scared weird little white guys who want to cloak themselves in the reflected glory of an ancient civilisation in which there is a 95% probability they would have been slaves.

Frankly, anybody who thinks that ‘race’ is a meaningful metric, is marking themselves out as too stupid to be permitted to reproduce.

First of all, we’re all mongrels – particularly the whites, who originated in a bit of dirt where there was frequent ‘mingling’ of tribal and regional genes.

Take a look at Poms from below the Dane line compared with Poms from above it: they’re as different as Zulu vs Xhosa. Ditto Celts (both British and French).

We should think of this as a good thing: heterosis is a good characteristic (‘hybrid vigour’).

To look at me, you would think I was just a big, hazel-eyed hairy white bloke. Photos of me as a kiddie (up to age ~14) showed that I had dirty-blonde hair; my beard has a distinct ginger tinge to it (if I let it grow, which I never do because I have nothing to hide: I have a decent jaw and good teeth).

My Dad is a big, blue-eyed, hairy white bloke; his Dad was a big, blue-eyed, hairy white bloke (and so was his Mum lol).

My Mum’s a hazel-eyed white lady – or at least that’s what you would see in photos or statues (if anyone ever did a coloured statue of Mum). Arguably, Mum’s ‘whiter’ in skin-tone than Dad.

In fact, Mum is half-Maori (the natives of New Zealand) so I’m 25% spear-chucker; Mum’s Mum’s side were Danes, through and through.

It’s absolutely not clear that DNA dominates when it comes to IQ or other metrics that are thought to correlate with productivity and/or social progress/development.

There are differences in the distributions that show a racial component (although all the distributions overlap significantly intra-territorially) – but that is in the context of some races being quite deliberately strangled, developmentally.

Let’s take the standard “African IQ averages under 80″ trope: interesting that Irish IQs were measured at about the same level until the British were forced to remove their boot from Ireland’s neck… by 2015 the average Irish IQ was 105 – half an SD above the average US score. The average IQ in the Netherlands – home of tall white folks – was about 80 in the 1950s: nobody would defend such an estimate today.

Americans of African ancestry do significantly better than Sub-Saharan Africans overall – for all its woes, life in the US for a black person is unambiguously better than life in most African countries you could name.

The boot was only removed from Africa’s neck in the post-WWII era – the aftermath of the fairly chaotic decolonisation process was horrifying (as should be expected). In another generation or so, Africa will have had the same opportunity to right itself, as Ireland has had since just after WWI… and measured IQ will rise as a result.

We (I count myself as white except when it suits me) used to think that Chinkies were thick; turns out that as their economic development gained pace, suddenly tests showed that their average IQ was higher than ours. How come the scared-weird-little-white-guys aren’t all claiming that Theophrastus, Anaximander and Themistocles were squinty-eyes? I suppose that will come in time – it’s the ‘SWLWG’ version of the “Tutankhamun was a Brother” schtick that some African Studies majors will try to foist on their gullible fellows.

Curry-Munchers (Indians) have an average IQ of 85 (in India) and 112 (in America)… that last number is higher than the average for Ashkenazi Jews (110 in the US; 105 in Occupied Palestine).

Afro-Chocolates have an average IQ of 80 (in Africa), 90 (in the US) and 94 (in the UK).

Here’s the thing: first-world nutrition, high levels of social organisation, and a reduction in the general level of misery and oppression between the first and third world… well, it adds about 13 IQ points (and 2-3 inches to height).

Now… imagine how much better Africans would score if they were genuinely treated as equals: not as retarded children (on the one hand) or uncontrollable savages (on the other).

After all, the gap between black and white Americans is – to a first approximation – equal to the gap between favoured and disfavoured castes in other countries (and the same as the gap between US white Washingtonians and White West Virginians).

Plus, unless your IQ is above 137 (on the SB 15sd), don’t even dare try to talk to me, you untermensch. (I’m kidding, kinda, for verily I am a man of the people, y’all… that said, the cognitive gap between the top 1-2% and the rest is really significant)

NB: I use 137 as a cutoff because some tard in the 120s can get to the low 130s by re-testing (the “Seinfeld’ episode is a very good characterisation as to why some ethnicities generate outliers… test, test and test again, little Schlomo).

You can’t get from sub-130 to 137 that way. (130 to 137 is as large a proportional improvement as 115 to 135, because the rate of return from retesting is non-linear)

Me: 138 (I was only tested once as a child – 142 – but the testing protocol converts to 138 SB-15 so I’m too dumb for Triple-9… curse that Maori blood-taint dumbing me down!)

ANd that means that the Greeks, Romans, Egyptians,Phoenicians, Babylonians, Indians, etc were BLONDIES?

You go in the era of the so called NAZZISM
Himmler?

This is one of the desperate attempts of protestant heathens to claim august origins, appropriate the greatness of Greeks and Romans, the other is to throw themselves back to the neolithic and lie to themselves about the imaginary greatness of German and Scythian cannibal hunter-gatherer
barbarians.

Racially they were European and as Europeans are a genetically homogeneous continental ancestry group ( racial group ) they shared the same characteristics all Europeans share. The article is actually asking what ethno-linguistic group were they ? They were Italic & Hellenic of course ( an academic consensus based on empirical substance ) anyone saying contrary is irrelevant. All Europeans are part of the same gene pool so we all share Italic Celtic Germanic etc genes to one degree or another.

Racially they were European and as Europeans are a genetically homogeneous continental ancestry group ( racial group ) they shared the same characteristics all Europeans share. The article is actually asking what ethno-linguistic group were they ? They were Italic & Hellenic of course ( an academic consensus based on empirical substance ) anyone saying the contrary is irrelevant. All Europeans are part of the same gene pool so we all share Italic Celtic Germanic Slavic Hellenic genes to one degree or another.

Which Black Hole did you come from?

So the Germans and Scandinavians are the Greeks and Romans and blondy?

But who were the Slaves?

Greeks
Germans and Celts

Also read the following about the Celts:

http://historum.com/ancient-history/62034-goths-vandals-really-germans.html

The so called “Celtic dance” is a copy of the Romanian “Calusari”

“One of the better known mummies found in the Taklamakan Desert is an individual known as Cherchen Man, who was determined to be of Celtic origin.”

How was determined and by whom?

1800 BC if there were Celts they lived in forests in present day Western Spain

The best candidates for the Tarim mummies are the Thracians who were described (some of them ) as having red hear.

The map with the expansion in Europe to Balkans of the Celts is a joke.

The Kelts were barbarians to the bone.

Is it a Divine curse for accepting those that call themselves jews and are not ?

Makes one wonder

You can argue with the people… the archeologists and historians, who made the discovery.

More on the Celts: https://infogalactic.com/info/Celtic_peoples

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=mummies+found+in+the+Taklamakan+Desert&t=ffab&ia=web

https://infogalactic.com/info/Tarim_mummies

Tarim Mummies are not Celts. The Celts are described as barbarians (uncivilized without cities) by both Greeks and Romans.

The only people at that time (1800 BC) could be only the Thracians who were described to have Red Hear. And other Thracians are described to have olive skin and dark hear.

The same people (Thracians) who attacked Egypt at the time of the Pharaohs. Some of the Egyption mummies had red hear.

Some do. As ancient Europeans traveled, and lived in Western China in the Tarim Basin.

“One of the better known mummies found in the Taklamakan Desert is an individual known as Cherchen Man, who was determined to be of Celtic origin. He is phenomenally well preserved for being around 3,000 years old, with Nordic features such as high cheekbones and long nose, as well as reddish hair and beard. It is estimated that he stood around 6 feet high, and when found was dressed in a red twill tunic and tartan leggings that have a weave determined to be characteristic of Bronze Age Celts.”

I am 48% Western European. Ireland/Scots/Wales 31%. Great Britain 13%. Europe South 3%. Scandinavian 3%. Caucasus 1%. Iberian Peninsula 1%. I can trace my ancestry to 80 BC with 93,000+ people in my tree.

I have more Kings, Queens, Prince’s and Princesses, Lords, Ladies, Earls, Knights, and etc. in my tree than you can shake a stick at. And Pocahontas married John Rolfe Jr. who are my 12th g-grandparents (Eat your heart out Senator “Pocahontas” Warren)… and I am just a poor boy.

Commonly seen in people native to the Europe South region – DNA: Iberian Peninsula 25%, Europe West 17%, Great Britain 15%, Europe East 14%, Ireland/Scotland/Wales 11%, Scandinavia 8%.

Commonly seen in people native to the Caucasus region – DNA: Europe East 12%, Europe South 10%, Scandinavia 7%, Great Britain 5%, Ireland/Scotland/Wales 5%, Europe West 2%.

It is more rare to see significant Europe South and Caucasus DNA in Northern European countries, while a significant amount of Northern European Countries DNA are found in Europe South and the Caucasus.

Anyhow.

It is no theory:

Here are the ‘Lost’ Tribes or The Twelve Tribes of Israel:

(Joseph) Ephraim = Anglo-Saxon England (The Saacae or Saaka – Isaac’s sons = Saxons) and Her Anglo-Saxon Commonwealth – Australia, Canada, NZ and S Africa (Now stolen).

(Joseph) Manasseh = Anglo-Saxon USA (The Saacae – Isaac’s sons)

The ancient Greek and Romans were racially European ( obviously ) and looked like today’s Europeans both in Italy Greece and all over Europe. Europeans are a genetically homogeneous continental ancestry group ( racial group ) and still draw much of their ancestry from the Cro Magnons who we still physically resemble. So of course we still look like our relatively recent Greek and Roman ancestors. The title of this article is a rather silly as no one doubts what race they were, They were European.

Take a look at this:

It looks like Volos/Vlach was one of the Gods of the Slavs

http://deity-of-the-week.blogspot.com/2011/11/velesvolos.html

Veles/Volos

Veles (Cyrillic: Велес; Polish: Weles; Old Russian and Old Church Slavonic: Велесъ) also known as Volos (Russian: Волосъ) (listed as a Christian saint in Old Russian texts) is a major Slavic god of earth, waters and the underworld, associated with dragons, cattle, magic, musicians, wealth and trickery. He is also the opponent of thunder-god Perun, and the battle between two of them constitutes one of the most important myths of Slavic mythology. No direct accounts survive, but reconstructions speculate that he may directly continue aspects of the Proto-Indo-European pantheon and that he may have been imagined as (at least partially) serpentine, with horns (of a bull, ram or some other domesticated herbivore), and a long beard.

I also found this interesting:

http://historum.com/ancient-history/62034-goths-vandals-really-germans.html

Almost convincing.. until.. wait.. I’ve read ancient works, and the Ancient Greeks make a very real distinction between their hair, eyes and complexion and the “fair” people to the north. So no.. Greeks were not Nordics.. they were a mix of several peoples, probably some Nordic people who ventured south too even. But all in all they were and still are a Mediterranean people. The Germanic tribes and scandinavian tribed didn’t genetically “mingle” with Greeks until the age of Byzantium.

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How many of those you drink?

Blue – eyes were the THRACIANS and others in Balkans and Asia Minor
Some Thracians are described to have RAD HEAR
You see that in Egyptian mummies

WHo does/did the GENETICS?

All the Nordics are Blondy and they ar are the GODS

Don/t ask why

Right so basically via population genetics this would be the blue-eyed, fair indigenous European element vs the swarthy West Asian invaders. Modern Greeks are more of the latter genetically on average.

Someone mentioned the first study, which had wide media coverage, but the second one is relevant too. They give new perspective to the matter of race continuity and immigration influence.

Genetic origins of the Minoans and Mycenaeans

Abstract

The origins of the Bronze Age Minoan and Mycenaean cultures have puzzled archaeologists for more than a century. We have assembled genome-wide data from 19 ancient individuals, including Minoans from Crete, Mycenaeans from mainland Greece, and their eastern neighbours from southwestern Anatolia. Here we show that Minoans and Mycenaeans were genetically similar, having at least three-quarters of their ancestry from the first Neolithic farmers of western Anatolia and the Aegean1,2, and most of the remainder from ancient populations related to those of the Caucasus3 and Iran4,5. However, the Mycenaeans differed from Minoans in deriving additional ancestry from an ultimate source related to the hunter–gatherers of eastern Europe and Siberia6,7,8, introduced via a proximal source related to the inhabitants of either the Eurasian steppe1,6,9 or Armenia4,9. Modern Greeks resemble the Mycenaeans, but with some additional dilution of the Early Neolithic ancestry. Our results support the idea of continuity but not isolation in the history of populations of the Aegean, before and after the time of its earliest civilizations.

https://www.nature.com/articles/nature23310

“Researchers analyzed DNA samples from 19 Bronze Age individuals. Ann Gibbons of Science reports that the remains belonged to 10 Minoans from Crete, four Mycenaeans, and five people from other early Bronze Age cultures of Greece and Turkey. The team compared 1.2 million letters of genetic code from these individuals to the genomes of 334 people from other ancient cultures, along with those of 30 modern Greeks.”

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/dna-analysis-sheds-light-mysterious-origins-ancient-greeks-180964314/

Ancient and recent admixture layers in Sicily and Southern Italy trace multiple migration routes along the Mediterranean

Abstract

The Mediterranean shores stretching between Sicily, Southern Italy and the Southern Balkans witnessed a long series of migration processes and cultural exchanges. Accordingly, present-day population diversity is composed by multiple genetic layers, which make the deciphering of different ancestral and historical contributes particularly challenging. We address this issue by genotyping 511 samples from 23 populations of Sicily, Southern Italy, Greece and Albania with the Illumina GenoChip Array, also including new samples from Albanian- and Greek-speaking ethno-linguistic minorities of Southern Italy. Our results reveal a shared Mediterranean genetic continuity, extending from Sicily to Cyprus, where Southern Italian populations appear genetically closer to Greek-speaking islands than to continental Greece. Besides a predominant Neolithic background, we identify traces of Post-Neolithic Levantine- and Caucasus-related ancestries, compatible with maritime Bronze-Age migrations. We argue that these results may have important implications in the cultural history of Europe, such as in the diffusion of some Indo-European languages. Instead, recent historical expansions from North-Eastern Europe account for the observed differentiation of present-day continental Southern Balkan groups. Patterns of IBD-sharing directly reconnect Albanian-speaking Arbereshe with a recent Balkan-source origin, while Greek-speaking communities of Southern Italy cluster with their Italian-speaking neighbours suggesting a long-term history of presence in Southern Italy.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-01802-4

I promised a careful reading before my response, but this is exciting to read. From first reading, ideas scurry in my mind like mice needing to be put in a cage. I did not know about the baby mammoth that was taken to the Pharaoh. That must be the cat on the table. But, cat is alive (I guess) and vase is broken, so which is older? Maybe cat is immortal and wrathful God wife broke Chinese vase over husband’s head for making the wrong turn in Albuquerque. I will continue studying this writing, but haven’t yet read about the Greeks and Romans.

Question: orbits fluctuate from severely elliptical (Ice Age time) to circular (consistently moderate temperature?) in a pattern that simulates pulsing waves. Attractive thought, this, and just like waves everywhere. Planets’ movement away from a warm sun is slow and reaches maximum coldness; planets are warmed only while speeding close to the sun for the briefest time in orbit. What would cause the orbital path to gradually return to circular? Have we observed such variances in orbits enough to postulate this empirically?

I am reading in a subject area where my ignorance prevails, so be patient, please. I may ask too many questions.

Romans and Greeks.
First I do have to beg for your indulgence.
Because everything is depending on everything, and everything is influenced by everything for these reasons I do quite benevolently have to widen the scope of this article.
And I only hope that there will be some people who will find what I am writing here interesting.

Prelude.

So what we have in Universe.

Space
Matter
Black holes.
Energy (many kinds)
Rays (many kinds)
Light (Actually there is no light. Light is no entity. Light is only visual manifestation of the heat wave emanating from matter heated up to certain degree of temperature.)

Only a reminder.
Walach in Slavic languages means simply herder.
There were three types who were herders.
Youngest was Honelnik . He fulfilled the role of dog.
Walach was responsible for the herd.
Bacha (old) was responsible for cooking.

Please do not worry. The amount of garbage people believe, is infinite. So you are not alone.

I have always believed that the people throughout Europe and northern Asia, were descendant from the 10 tribes of Israel that escaped from Syria after years of captivity there. They were the northern Kingdom of Israel. The Southern Kingdom consisted of the Tribe of Judah and Benjamin, while the northern Kingdom consisted primarily of the Tribe of Ephraim, and the other 10 tribes that were lost after their captivity and escape by the Syrians. All we know is they wandered north and many relics of their journey have been left behind and found by archeologists over time. I have no way to prove my theory. It is only a theory.

“Were the directors right, from an historical point of view? Were the ancient Greeks and Romans of North European stock?”

I never knew that there was any doubt at all that Greeks and Romans have always been European. It’s a matter of geography, isn’t it? Greece and Italy are located on the European continent, after all. As to whether they are descended from northern Europeans, is there really a significant difference between the indigenous people of the different areas of Europe other than the minor variations in the physical characteristics of different tribes among the race of humans generally known as European?

I will explain it entirely but I do need 2 weeks. Maybe a little bit more.

The Talmudists were not contemporaneous with the Greek invasion/occupation, but the Talmudists ==did== actually hold contemporaneous records of that earlier era.

If the Greeks were as dark as, say – the Ethiopians who WERE around in Judea in small numbers in those days – the Talmudists would have mentioned it.

This is known that SCLAVINI or Germanics will attack the people who MADE themn

Wow! To think people actually spend a good part of their lives studying such utter meaningless crap.

Anyway, whatever race the ancient fucking Greeks and Romans were, at least the white race can rejoice that “god” (the repackaged Zeus) & his “only begotten son,” are white. Which makes whites, somewhat like demigods, doesn’t it.

LOL!!

Hehe
Why is it so bloody controversial to talk about and confirm white peoples history, that, is what I dont understand, even when I can prove it to you, I bet you still will refuse to see.

the problem this days, is as much into what I define as bonkers PC-infested nonsense, like the silence about Minoans, just to give ou an ex, and the Basque, witch is by far the oldest genuine European people there is, and genetically, I am in that same group, but I am from ancient North- Finland and I am an Skolt sami, 100% European.

And dont forget this, the global temp dropped 2000 years ago, to what we have to day, and that alone drove a lot of people southward, but then its been people up here since the ice age, we have 10000 years old house ruins, 3000 years old stone monuments and circles/labyrinths, etc, they found an 7000 year old boat, build the same way as they do to day, the frame, everything, equally old fishing nets, etc.
Rune writings that predates the “vikings” by thousands of years.
This is again just an short summary, I dont have time to take it all.

But the truth is, Europa, geographically isnt that big, and to the Faraos, whom where Nordic to, huh, and so on, to the Berbers of North Africa, and NA was never inhabited by Blacks they cam much later, and why I say PC-infested is that the scam about humans coming from Africa is just that, an scam, and why we are so called, originally blacks is again based upon another scam, that humans originate from Monkeys.
Yeah, only idiots believe that.

But what blows my mind, is the hate because of this, uh….. white history, I have never read so much nonsense and flat out bullshit as this days when archeologically the facts are the opposite, that means that if you go by age, everything went from the West-Europa to the east.
period.
And why on earth dont we talk about Boats, yeah, eh…… its another freakish way of avoiding facts, the truth is, Europa was infact white, and the Boats where the tools, roamed the rivers, all the way to the African lands and Eastern Asia, but they never talk about it, because its even politically restrained by some obscure nonsense invented by some drooling idiots in central Europa in the 1800s, thats what is still defining the present world history.
Like why dont we debate that fact Faraos had cokain in their blood, several of them, for eons, cannabis, is found so far back they simply didn’t or want to talk about that either, in the Nordic countrys incl Baltics and Russia.

I give you something to think about.

http://r1b.blogspot.no/2008/01/henotype.html

R1b
Even worse for the PC-rats.

http://saamiblog.blogspot.no/2007/12/prehistoric-genetic-link-of-amazigh-and.html

And on top of it.
The Boat people.

http://uralica.com/earlyfin.htm

Take your time, and have a nice day.
And the last one for now, this one is for the Norwegians, go f….. your self, Khazars.

http://www.academia.edu/2288092/B%C3%A1cheveaj_Pasvikdalens_eldre_histore_belyst_ved_pollenanalyser_og_arkeologisk_materiale

I stop there, and do read it, it may shine some light on more than just one thing, and to show you the truth.

peace

It is known that the Germans used to live in the winter in hols dug in the ground and covered with dong

Tacitus – Germania:

“Their villages are not laid out in the Roman style, with buildings adjacent and connected. Every man leaves an open space round his house, perhaps as a precaution against the risk of fire, perhaps because they are inexpert builders. They do not even make use of stones or walltiles; for all purposes they employ rough-hewn timber, ugly and unattractive-looking. Some parts, however, they carefully smear over with a clay of such purity and brilliance that it looks like painting or coloured design. They also have the habit of hollowing out underground caves, which they cover with masses of manure and use both as refuges from the winter and as storehouses for produce. Such shelters temper the keenness of the frosts; and if an invader comes, he ravages the open country, while these hidden excavations are either not known to exist, or else escape detection simply because they cannot be found without a search.”

“Even iron is not plentiful; this has been inferred from the sort of weapons they have. Only a few of them use swords or large lances: they carry spears – called frameae in their language – with short and narrow blades, but so sharp and easy to handle that they can be used, as required, either at close quarters or in long-range fighting. Their horsemen are content with a shield and a spear; but the foot-soldiers also rain javelins on their foes: each of them carries several, and they hurl them to immense distances, being naked or lightly clad in short cloaks. There is nothing ostentatious about their equipment: only their shields are picked out in the colours of their choice. Few have breastplates, and only one here and there a helmet of metal or hide. Their horses are not remarkable for either beauty or speed, and are not trained to execute various evolutions as ours are; they ride them straight ahead, or with just a single wheel to the right, keeping their line so well that not a man falls behind the rest. Generally speaking, their strength lies in infantry rather than cavalry.”

Are these the nordics who civilized Europe?

Also, Jordanes in his book Jetica describes the nordic people living under boulders.

Northern Europe was described as Barbaric by the Greeks and Romans.
When you write something you must have the ability to prove it.
You don’t.
Probably these are the stories you teach the kids in the north.

Actually There were Indoeuropean tribes coming from the Northern Europe like Latins, Oscans , Samnites etc … and Local pelasgian tribes as well as Etruscans , all were fair or light skinned the locals had more dark hairs , the Indoeuropeans more light features.

The same with the so called Germans
Germans you were activated by many . The one is YOU
Should we go Himmler?
Or should we trust U

About the Greeks
Learn to suck dick

That’s where you as a Greek Slave learn
It will take some time to make you UNDERSTAND where you STAND

You as a Greek can laugh as much as you IMMEDIATE ANCESTORS told you to
But you GREEKS remain SLAVES

Don’t give me examples of others
You Greeks were the Slaves and the Wallachians saved your ass

The port you were is Walachian as it is all over Eastern Europe

German, Hungarian,Austrians ALL had IMPERIAL ROMANS aka VOLSCI/Valaci as KINGS and lords

By WHOM?
BY A Greek A German or a Russian?
Let me guess

So, you tell us that the Greeks of today are the ANCIENT GREEKS ?

The ANCIENT GREEKS WILL NEVER EVER ACCEPT SLAVERY THE WAY THE GREEKS IN THE COUNTRY OF GREECE accepted from Romans,Byzantines,Turks = total – over 2000 years
Rethink your Greek HISTORY

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Nobody sayd that the Greeks were Nordics (only few nazies )
But the ideea is that the Greeks of today are not the Ancient Gteeks

For you information, these guys spoke Ionic and Doric and they were called Thracians (Bythinians)
Again a mixture of Greeks and Thracians and Wallachians (not necessarily in this order) , those who
moved NORTH of Europe and were called Prussians sau Bythinians

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2 weeks ago
Response for “Baltic folk”

Prussian language:

Here is the Part about Prussians and Lithuanians.

Jan Dlugosz XV cent.

“The Prussians are reputed to be a fierce, cruel people, immersed in idolatry and the worship of demons, so blind in their errors that they worship as gods the sun, moon and stars, as well as animals, birds and fire. They hold certain woods, lakes and streams sacred, and in those no man may hunt, fish or cut timber. They have their own language, which is partly derived from Latin and somewhat like the language of the Lithuanians, with whom they have various gods, ceremonies and festivals in common.
They have a high priest whose order must be scrupulously obeyed under penalty of death; he lives in the capital which is called Romowe, after Rome. The word for high priest in their language is Criwe.
The Prussians, Lithuanians and Samogitians have largely the same customs, language and origin.
It is said that at the time of the civil war between Cesar and Pompey they left their homes, wherever these were, and came to settle in these lands by the sea, where they now live.
They built their settlements deep in the forest, protected by rivers, lakes and swamps. Their pronunciation of words may differ, as it does in Polish, Czech and Ruthenia today, but otherwise their languages are similar in many respects. They do not consider that they have a common stem or language; in deed, the Prussians claim a quite different ancestry, for they will tell you that after the Carthaginians leader, Hannibal, was defeated by the Romans, he fled to the Bithynia and found refuge there. He persuaded Prussians, king of the Bithynians, to take up arms against the Romans on his behalf.
There was a pitched battle in which the Bithynians were soundly defeated, after which Prussians and most of his people fled to these northern shores where they now live, Prussians, giving his own name to their new country. Traces of these Bithynians are still to be found: indeed some Prussians are still able to speak their old language, to the extent that they can perfectly understand Aeolian, Dorian and Ionian Greek.
The Prussians buy their wives and make them work like slaves. They burn the bodies of the dead together with their horses, arms, clothing and other things dear to the hearts. Otherwise, they are by nature hospitable and friendly. They indulge in bouts of drunkenness, achieved, for wine is not known to them, by drinking fermented mare’s milk, which is inebriating.
They do not consider that they have been sufficiently hospitable to a friend or guest until they see him well and truly intoxicated. Their womenfolk are as ardent topers as the men.
Prussians can have an unlimited number of wives, just as many as each can afford to buy; consequently they do not respect them, but force them to perform the servile duties of slaves.”

Also there is a German Kaizer (Prussian) who wrote that the Prussians come from south of Danube and were called Missians (Thracians)

“According to recent DNA testing modern Greeks are closely genetically related to ancient Greeks.”

And according to whom?
To the Greek Scientist or some German lost in time?

Sir, the Germans are a mixture of people some of them were the Greeks who ,migrated north of Europe together with the Thracians (Migration forced by the Romans/Volscii?)
The Original population of Germany were living worst then the Gypsies of XIX th Century
The time is explained very vividly by the Roman Historian Tacitus

Complicated this History, is’t it?

(Thymoleon, in case the author can’t read Greek)

This is a foolish essay.

The Greeks lived on the shores of the Mediterranean. The Dorians migrated to southern Greece from northern Greece, not from Germany…

Had they been “Nordic”, the Greeks would have never formed poleis–the “Nordics” being by nature too antisocial to form any kind of significant polity without help from the Mediterranean…

According to recent DNA testing modern Greeks are closely genetically related to ancient Greeks. It’s difficult to compare but its entirely possible that Greeks are more related to their ancient counterparts than some modern Northern European peoples are related to their original geographic counterparts.

For example, the modern British are not the original British. Modern British identity was created in the 18th century with the union of Scots and the English… neither of which were British. The Scots and English recycled the name old British in an attempt to unify the island of Britain under a common identity. Ethnically speaking though the original British were a different people. They spoke a completely different language than the Scots and English (who lets remember migrated from what we today call Germany). Their culture was different.

The genetic trail suggests the original British were more related to Basques. For a period after the Romans left Britain, the real British and the Angles (English) co-existed as separate tribes. Whatever is left of the original British was genetically assimilated by the immigrants who invaded Britain. (Jutes, Angles, and Saxons most notably)

And this is precisely why half of Scots don’t have a British identity. They know their history. Scots aren’t British (and neither are the English).

“The way to finally settle the question is to test ancient DNA.”

Indeed. Its been done.

http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/ancient-greek-origins-revealed-through-dna-analysis-/

IMO it’s bizarre how sundry nationalities other than Greeks keep bizarrely claiming Greek history as their own.

The minoans were black according to their own art, most of the whites in their art were added during the restoration process in the early 1900s. This can be plainly seen by looking at which pieces of any given picture are original and which are not. Also, their civilization mirrored many aspects of ancient KMT or egypt, adding further evidence that they were black people. Otherwise a great article, thanks for sharing.

mediterraneans are essentially from neolithic farmers stock, the modern sardinians retained the highest amount of that neolithic heritage (>90%) and remain today isolated while south europeans in general also retained a high amount of that heritage

http://papeill.blogspot.de/2017/11/quick-highlight-of-archaic-sardinians.html

After the Romans conquered the ancient Greeks the ruling class were moved to Rome were they contributed to Rome’s architecture, military achievements, social life, etc.
The remaining population of Greece were the slaves. These slaves kept their status under the Romans, Byzantine Romans and Turks for period of almost 2000 years.
Their rulers in these intense period were the Roman Wallacians, the Romanians of today who the contemporary Greeks describe to be the Pelasgians (an ancient Greek tribe) which is total fabrication.
Virginia Woolf described very well the people of Greece where the Wallacians were in charge of the banks and were the most industrious people of Greece, the rest of the people were lazy and inactive.

The Greeks of today are not the ancient Greeks.
The Greeks of today are the slaves and peasants of the Ancient Greeks who spoke Ionic and Doric.
The Germans of today are mixture of tribes from South Eastern Europe (Thracians and others)
who were Germanized how was the case of the Prussians.

This is laughable at best, ass kissing to Nordic folks never gotten sweeter. Ancient Greeks look like Modern ones we see today, same people with dark hair and eyes.

The nordics should read:

http://historum.com/ancient-history/62034-goths-vandals-really-germans.html

The so called Nordics were nothing else then a host body for the real invaders, the Thracians and Romans/Vlachs who were the Kings and Lords of the Nordics.

I’ve red “The Baltic Origins of Homer’s Epic Tales” by Felice Vinci

First of all, the writer was paid by the nordics to create a noble history (going for thousands of years)
of the nordic nations. Felice Vinci is recognized by all historians to be nothing else but a forger of history.

The same approach had the Hungarians when they asked another Italian to write a book showing thet the Hungarians are Etruscans and some Hungarian scholars consider Hungarians to be the Sumerians and others are dreaming lowly advocating a decent from Celts.

Someone says: ” When a nation got financial means it is inclined to change it’s history like Himler did in WWII”

Yes, because any claim by Nordics to anything is supremacist by default. Someone just lost their credibility, but it isn’t Unz Review.

I, for one, think that Geeks, for the most part, are fairly intelligent and bright, but somewhat withdrawn socially. But to say they don’t like Romaine is silly. I’ve witnessed blonde and blue-eyed Geeks eat salads as everyone else be they Africans or Middle Eastern. Romaine has been cultivated in almost all parts of the world, not just in Italy. Geeks can be a lot of fun, if you know how to deal with them. Give a chance, and grow a little intellectually.

Thank you for your contribution. But you can also tell us, was Socrates a “real person”?

I guess that’s exactly what happened, where Roman and Thracian Lords became the Kings, the Church Officials, the Ruling Class of those from North Western Europe.

The people ( peasants of Thracian and Roman decent) were told to learn a certain language like German, etc by the new Lords but, they themselves (the Lords) continue to speck the language of their ancestors (Latin)

The Romans were hyper promiscuous, as long as they were good looking they wanted to have sex with them. They didn’t care about race, maybe due to their own cosmopolitan globalist nature.
Which is why the Italians of today are so mixed racially.

Romans and Greeks looked alike, dark to brown hair:
Only the Thracians are described to have red hair si implicitly lite collar eyes.
Also the Thracians are described to have dark skin like Greeks and Romans.

https://funnyjunk.com/How+the+average+roman+looked+like/funny-pictures/6126787/

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/60376451229313603/

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/238479742739886315

Oh my god are you serious the Romans actually imported Negroes into Europe dear god I have not read that before but sure I did get they had Semites since the Jewish Rebellion of 66 A.D when the Jews in Judea revolted, and they were later subjugated and sent to Rome as Slaves my god thou I didn’t know they were importing Africans into the Empire that is very shocking and I once believe the Roman Empire was great but those people who were surely running it seriously failed to underestimate the repercussions of race mixing.

Great Tip,
Thanks!
exomike

“The establishment of a distinct Aromanian national consciousness, however, was hampered by the tendency of the Aromanian upper classes to be absorbed in the dominant surrounding ethnicities, and espouse their respective national causes as their own.[27] So much did they become identified with the host nations that Balkan national historiographies portray the Aromanians as the “best Albanians”, “best Greeks” and “best Bulgarians”, leading to researchers calling them the “chameleons of the Balkans”.[28] Consequently, many Aromanians played a prominent role in the modern history of the Balkan nations: Macedonian revolutionary Pitu Guli, Greek Prime Minister Ioannis Kolettis, Greek magnate Georgios Averoff, Greek Defence Minister Evangelos Averoff, Serbian Prime Minister Vladan Đorđević, Patriarch Athenagoras I of Constantinople, Romanian metropolitan Andrei Şaguna, the Wallachian and Moldavian rulers of the Ghica family, etc.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aromanians

And how the Vlachs looked:

https://www.pinterest.com/lafeerusee/the-vlachs/

Virginia Woolf wrote a book after her visit to Greece.
In her book she described the population of Greece where the Vlachs controlled the banks and they looked like English or Austrians. The Greeks were described as being lazy doing nothing all they long.

Always interesting to consider this issue. John did you look up or read through what is without a doubt the most comprehensively researched and written book on Greece, and I refer to J.Bury’s “The History of Greece”. Bury traces the history and origins of the Greek world very carefully and once you grasp the tribal origins of the Peloponnese you will come to the view that they were not blonde or celtic. However they like every other tribe and group were traders and keepers of slaves so any so called racial characteristics would have been diluted over time. It was at least 500 years before the Greeks came into prominence as city states and left their history.

Bury tracks these origins very well indeed, noted the issue of the Minoan civilisations, but that is most conjecture as they were a thousand years before the Greek States arose. If one has the time and inclination to read Bury (Former Professor of Classics and Ancient History) you will be better able to see that whatever the Greeks were, they were not white or nordic types, they basically came from tribes from the East or Middle Asia.

1) you focus in the fair haired minority among statues, the vast majority have been found to be dark haired, showing much evidence of the ancient Greek hair color. And how could fair statues not exist, as blondes existed the way they even more exist in Greece today
2)the first lines are lies, there is a well detailed work on ancient Greek phenotype, and all it shows is that classical Greeks were slightly DARKER than modern Greeks.
3)gauls and celts, were predominantly dark and related to South Europe, like germanics are related to slavs, not Nordic
4) the way you dispute a PhD shows Nordic ignorance, without genetically south European askhenazi Jews leading science and technology in your countries you would be nothing

Northern Europeans will become extinct by end of this century for sure. Then Southern Europeans will step in and wipe out everything in North, and repopulate those lands with brown eyed brunettes.

I have said that the gins of blue and green eyes are present in all the people of the world.

Ahaha
NorDICKS are as stupid as afrocentrists and with the same low self esteeme about their past.
You were swinging from trees in the past and doing human sacrifice…deal with it.

Italy and Greece are still full of ginger and blonde people and still many romans used wigs.

All your links are from Apollo, not from real people like Socrates

or Aristotle

or Plato

or Pericles

Are you claiming that some meaningful number of Chinese or Africans have green and blue eyes? I don’t think that’s true.

“Your video is obviously less well documented than this article and even a little bit dubious since some of the image it shows are clearly northen european type.”

You guys of the north of Europe does exactly as the contemporary Indians, Chinese, Egyptions, etc.

does today by saying that they are the descendants of the ancient people of that area

Your video is obviously less well documented than this article and even a little bit dubious since some of the image it shows are clearly northen european type.

sarcophagus’s in Rome suggest the Roman soldiers when slaughtering Germans had much less grotesque facial feature than the Germans..the Germans had long curly hair with bulbous noses and beards

There are no Jewish people in the sense you describe (continuation of a race – NO)
The Jews of Europe are a mixture of people notably Thracians.

The question is who were the French and the English. They were not Germans, maybe some soldiers. Who were their leaders?

We don’t know that part?

“”The British beat the French in economics and industry, the French led the way in the arts and stuff.””

There are those that say WWI happened because both the Germans and the French overtook the Brits in science, technology and industry during the 19th century and were well ahead by 1910. The “explanation” is that the Brits were undone by the corrupt (jewish) banks of the “city of london”. Their “speculation” led to under investment in British technology and industry. …… Interestingly, at the end of the 20th century, both French and German industry were at least twice as productive (in output per hour worked) as Brit/American industry. Seems London/NY are again parasitizing their “home” countries?

As for: “”One area where Brits were really great was in literature,…. “”, this seems to be an attempt to sell substandard trash with propaganda. It is perhaps in the “trend” of considering a Viviane Westwood to have anything to do with “great design”.

Basically the hebrews took a humane monotheism (Zoroaster) and burdened it with racism about “chosen people”. The “mixture” seems to be more a dangerous perversion than anything else.
As for “jews rising from the dead”, yes the inherent racism of the sect gets them thrown out over and over and over again.

To those blondies Norther of Europe:

The civilization started in South Easter Europe inclusive Asia Minor, it did not start North of Europe where Jordans said that the people of that area live under stones and Tacitus clearly described the Germans as totally barbarians who lived (during the winter) in homes digged in the ground and covered with dumb.

Another aspect is that the green and blue eyes are genetically present in all humans but it appears more frequently in Europe.
The Thracians were described to have red hear which implies that they had green and blue eyes.
Also, the Thracians are described to be darker, mediterranean type.

Modern Romans are more similar in appearance to Southern Italians than Northern Italians. On top of that the areas of Italy that have the darkest people are exactly the same areas where the Classical Greeks built colonies. And in these areas, a form of Greek is still spoken (Griko). If the Ancient Greeks and Romans were mostly Nordic then this would be hard to explain.

Here is a map of blonde hair frequency in Italy:

With respect to Detroit, this former ghost town and crime capital is undergoing a renaissance. Whites are moving back into the downtown core, buying up the beautiful brownstones that until recently had been run-down crack houses. These homes were available for one dollar ( $1.00) plus any outstanding property taxes owed the city. The visionaries buying up Detroit core properties for a song will profit, as well as restore a new glory to a city that has been the laughing stock of American urban failure.

I live across the narrow Detroit River on the Canadian side and can watch the rebirth from my backyard. What a difference from the glow of out of control fires, echoes of rifle fire and tanks driving down Jefferson and Woodward avenues in the summer of 1967.

The history of the world is totally politicised. The reason the floods as described in the Bible in the majority of civilization of the world has to do only with the Black Sea region (Asia Minor) and adjacent regions. From here the people migrated all over the world conquering other people who practically lived as animals. These people created the world of today as it is known.
And, they spread the flood story all over.

It is difficult to estimate the number of slaves in ancient Greece, given the lack of a precise census and variations in definitions during that era. It is certain that Athens had the largest slave population, with as many as 80,000 in the 6th and 5th centuries BC,[44] on average three or four slaves per household. In the 5th century BC, Thucydides remarked on the desertion of 20,890 slaves during the war of Decelea, mostly tradesmen. The lowest estimate, of 20,000 slaves, during the time of Demosthenes,[48] corresponds to one slave per family. Between 317 BC and 307 BC, the tyrant Demetrius Phalereus ordered[49] a general census of Attica, which arrived at the following figures: 21,000 citizens, 10,000 metics and 400,000 slaves. The orator Hypereides, in his Against Areistogiton, recalls that the effort to enlist 15,000 male slaves of military age led to the defeat of the Southern Greeks at the Battle of Chaeronea (338 BC), which corresponds to the figures of Ctesicles.[50]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_ancient_Greece

http://listverse.com/2016/09/29/10-fascinating-facts-about-slavery-in-ancient-greece/

Greece was under occupation for some 2000 years (Romans,Byzantine Romans,Turks)
The Lords of Greece long time disappeared, they were assimilated by the Romans, Byzantine Romans and many migrated becoming the leaders of other people.

Remember that the majority of the population in Greece were slaves.

Sir, Greeks of today are the slaves who remained on that lands until today.
The Germans are the other way around, the people of Germany (barbarians) remained but were civilized by the Romans and those Thracians.

The Greek of today are not the ancient Greeks who spoke Ionian and Doric.

I guess that was explained by someone in this tread.

Read Virginia Woolf, vigorously.
The whites (from Asia Minor and Balkans)were the lords of the Norther Europe,Indians, Chinese, Egyptians, etc.

Hard to swallow but that’s what it is.

I must at the outset acknowledge that I a a lousy writer. But I did want to make one comment.

While interesting, I am not sure that skin color played a role as large as it does since 1300 forward with increasing vigor. The greeks and the romans learned their plumbing and water delivery systems from dark skinned babylonians wasn’t hinged on their skin color.

We know that certain african societies had developed early venting systems to air condition their residences or places of business. Those designs were included in the homes of plantations and other facilities (?).

It has been the disfigurement of history to an argument of white superiority that is the issue. Not any attempt to diminish the achievements of Romans, Asians or Greeks because they were white or some other light skin tone.

Minus the attempt to justify color superiority and thereby justify the mistreat others based on skin color – a nonissue.