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Major active shooting going on in Christchurch (NZ) [UP6: 4 suspects in custody, 49 confirmed dead] (READ THREADMARKS)

May 17, 2018
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Anyone read the manifesto yet? I am about halfway through and frankly am disturbed by how self aware it comes across and how deeply mired in US politics he is.
The US has a major political party rooted in the exact same ideology that turns people radical. They just try to keep it on the DL and avoid the no no words.
Nationalism is the 'kill the jews' component of the National Socialist German Workers' Party, but we have a republican president proudly saying hes a nationalist.
 
Oct 27, 2017
6,223
We're so fucking happy to do these fuckers' work for them and talk about them in their language of "edge lords", "trolls", using "memes".

They're sociopaths and criminals. Call them what they are and take the fucking kid gloves off.
 
Nov 3, 2018
778
Croatia
how the fuck they got their hands on a AR-15? government about to crack down hard
One of the shooters had at least 5 guns at the ready in his car. Semi-auto rifle and shotgun along with a couple of cans of gasoline.

I don't know what kind of training he had but he looked trained to me. Probably played airsoft and practiced somewhere private with the real guns.
 
Oct 27, 2017
767
My heart breaks after every one of these shootings. They're so pointless. Those lives didn't need to be lost. And people sometimes wonder why I'm depressed.

It seems like the only thing we can do is not be them. Exist, peacefully, and with love in our hearts both for our own identified groups as well as those we'd classify as others. Love for all is the only weapon that we have and the only one we should wield. It just isn't enough to make these moments stop.
 
Oct 25, 2017
4,120
The PDP thing is tertiary to the actual problem.

The global alt right is a creation of nihilism. These people are deeply nihilistic, they don't care about human life, they don't care about the sanctity of human existence. Everything the do isn't because of some deeply held racist beliefs, it's "for the lelz" because everything is a joke. Taking things seriously is a joke. Living is a joke. Doing something like this is a profound statement for their warped and perverse form of meaning that they derive from our hyper-reality. Because they spend all day online, being radicalized because that's the only avenue for "meaning" that they can actually find.

This is an issue that runs deeper than a youtuber and a few bad actors. This is an issue with how we treat the interconnectivity we now have and how social media actually isolates and insulates us more than anything else. How it allows people like these monsters to burrow in and bury themselves into this facade of meaningful engagement when it's all just them being manipulated by the most nihilistic sociopath's possible. People who literally just want the world to burn around them because they don't care about others, including their own thralls or their white nationalist ethnostate dreams, beyond how they can be used to give them a flash of importance before they themselves die meaningless deaths.

We are fucking live streaming mass murder not as a "look at this awful thing happening" but because it's a perverse form of engagement and entertainment. Because it's a window into madness without having to step there ourselves.

God this is so fucking depressing.
Really is a profound post. Completely agree.
 

Eorl

Banned
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Oct 30, 2017
1,626
Australia
User Banned (1 Week): Derailing a sensitive thread.
Imagine stepping in to a thread about a mass shootings specifically to defend PewDiePie.

Can you kindly fuck off forever?
Hi, defending an alt right dogwhistler is not important when people are struggling with dozens of people being killed by an intolerant fuck. Your priorities are absolutely fucked.
So you'd agree that PDP and his fanbase influenced the shooter? PDP bears responsibility for the influence he wields, even if it was just one of many factors leading to the shooter's decision. Don't absolve him of that.
All of this hostility isn't needed, nor was it even asked for. If you actually were to kindly go read my previous posts I never stated once that PewDiePie is the beacon of hope and justice, and that his prior actions are the greatest thing to ever occur to humanity. No, instead if you are to actually read the context I stated that the bit in the video was not in fact related to PewDiePie as he and his beliefs and past actions, instead it was a meme of a current competition going on between T-Series and PewDiePie.

No where, not once, did I agree with PewDiePie or defend him. So kindly back down from your attacks and before posting actually read the context. I understand this is a very, very hot topic, but I stated that the terrorist's comments were in fact not at all linked to PewDiePie outside of it being a meme. Poor taste of a meme? Fuck yes, but a meme nonetheless that doesn't link one to the other on grounds of reason.

Trust me, I do not like this. I believe all religion and culture should be intertwined respectively. I also fucking hate that this terrorist is Australian, born and bred in my home country where I live and shared with. That, is fucked up. But what needs to be done is understanding why, how and what can we do. Stop throwing it under the rug of "oh its just those silly white supremacists at it again!" because it isn't. This is serious, people are being groomed suffering mental illnesses that can not associate what is real and what isn't, and they are being told that immigration is bad and killing some people in New Zealand will help stop the boats.

That's a fucking lie.
 
Oct 27, 2017
55
USA
Not a PDP fan. But dude was just using shitty 8chan meme shit there. Blaming pdp at all is asinine.
You realize all this “trolling” and shitty memes are a cover they use for plausible deniability? PDP absolutely covers for this behavior and attract the type of folk who would do this. This is the end result of 4chan/8chan trolling.
Plus defending PDP right now? Not the place my dude.
 
Oct 25, 2017
76
I’m A Kiwi Muslim who grew up Dunedin and Hamilton. This is making me tear up. NZ is probably the most tolerant country for multi faiths and a beacon of how successful multi culturalism to the world.

But maybe I’m naive and hate is actually constantly simmering underneath our beloved Aotearoa
It's a lot to make me tear up. But this has hit me hard. Aotearoa is so much better than this and we will prove it.

For the rest of the people even wanting to discuss anything PDP related, as a Kiwi it makes me beyond disgusted that you would even attempt to discuss at this point in time.
 
Nov 9, 2017
850
Italy
As a journalist, I'm glad this is something I don't have to cover.

Because I'm just so sad. I have so many things to say about all this, but now I'm just raging and I really have to turn off everything for a while.

My thoughts are directed to the people involved in this massive tragedy and their families.
 
The fucking internet is creating extremists in plain sight and no one wants to do shit. The fuckers in charge of these websites should be fucking sued for negligence. Toss their ass in jail and garnish every penny they've earned for all I care. Google, Facebook, Twitter... all ran by fucking greedy sociopaths.
 
Mar 28, 2018
74
Nyc/LA
Just watched the video

The people didn’t stand a chance, he was extremely calm, calculated, and sweep the building like he was military.

I grew up in poverty and have been around gun violence my whole life, so I’m numb to seeing it

Sadly this is the world we live in, i personally don’t ever see it changing.
 
Oct 25, 2017
5,546
how many millions of people are his audience? I know he has millions of subs but I wonder how many of those actually watch his videos
A lot are kids, a lot just like him playing video games

But these kids are exposed and conditioned to think and dislike minorities

They are trained to find jokes about race funny and “offense is never intended only taken”

That mind set becomes fostered and grows into alt right ideology

The other difference betweeen PDP being “just” edgey is that we see a clear recruitment of alt right folk flocking to his channel

These guys have access to his community
 
Oct 27, 2017
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All of this hostility isn't needed, nor was it even asked for. If you actually were to kindly go read my previous posts I never stated once that PewDiePie is the beacon of hope and justice, and that his prior actions are the greatest thing to ever occur to humanity. No, instead if you are to actually read the context I stated that the bit in the video was not in fact related to PewDiePie as he and his beliefs and past actions, instead it was a meme of a current competition going on between T-Series and PewDiePie.

No where, not once, did I agree with PewDiePie or defend him. So kindly back down from your attacks and before posting actually read the context.
To be clear when your first inclination in a thread about dozens of people being shot and killed is to try to contradict an "unfair" attack on a YouTuber I stand by what I said. Your priorities are fucked.