Thanks for the clarification. I actually liked the non-random encounters in Let's Go. It let me focus on only trying to catch the Pokemon I need to finish the 'dex, and honestly, it felt more organic since you actually saw them out and about in the world.Random encounters
Wild battles
Mechanical depth
Focus on newer Pokemon
No motion controls
That's basically it I think.
Well, it ruined Zelda for me. I play it for the great designed dungeons and progression, not janky physics and the overworld. I'm fine with people using sales to justify it, but if we're doing this, SM/USUM sold absolutely great so I see no issue with keeping Pokémon as turn based linear RPG. It's not like we have many of these anyway.you both sound like all the zelda fans who were afraid of change before botw. "open world zelda would RUIN it! it doesn't need to be reinvented, look at the sales and the metacritic score... you just don't like zelda!"
and then botw came out and the zelda fans can't shut up about how it's the greatest thing in the history of the universe
it's possible to reinvent the formula while still staying true to the last 20 years of titles
Traditional in the sense that it would have regular catching style and the standard battle systemWhat the hell were people expecting anyway? Game Freak said this would be more traditional back in 2018. And yeah I see a lot throwing around that Gamefreak is "cheap/lazy/incompetent", all of which isn't true by the way, but if anything being able to get these games out every year with the quality they are with a relativity huge profit margin on the games themselves is a good thing.
I'm beginning to think that a lot of Pokemon fans should just play different RPGs that fit more to their tastes instead of trying to make Pokemon fit theirs. It happens as you grow older you know.
Bit early to say it isn't
You could eat the most succulent steak every day and it would get stale after a while.More than 14 million people like the old formula, why do you assume there is something wrong with it?
you can see the mine entrance in the part of the map Joe posted earlierI don't believe it, but I would never criticize this game if it had Kalos as post-game. That region REALLY needs more development and would be great to go back to it in this game.
I add the btw later: the app is in Portuguese, "mil" means thousand.Huh? 71 million (?) likes from ~500k views? Do i get some numbers wrong?
You mean to say 60 seconds of footage doesn't even begin to convey the world structure and new features this game introduces?
I'm not saying it's impossible or that it couldn't end up being better, but the franchise doesn't "need" the reinvent itself when people are happy with the way the games are of course there's always room for improvment but the games aren't bad as people are trying to make it look, also a lot of zelda fans don't think BOTW is the best Zelda.you both sound like all the zelda fans who were afraid of change before botw. "open world zelda would RUIN it! it doesn't need to be reinvented, look at the sales and the metacritic score... you just don't like zelda!"
and then botw came out and the zelda fans can't shut up about how it's the greatest thing in the history of the universe
it's possible to reinvent the formula while still staying true to the last 20 years of titles
Funny, I seem to remember the exact same words being written by those who enjoyed Let’s Go. Some people really didn’t like that.It's amazing how salty people are getting that others are happy. Yes, how dare they be excited when you're not
Fire/Fighting or Fire/Steel
omfg this is sun moon level graphics, not even a proper lighting! are you kidding me game freak?
Okay, thread's over. Last one out get the lights.
It's definitely not implying BotW-scale changes, but clearly they are directly commenting on ideas about an open(ish) world.Open world, no. But imaginative and fresh? It couldn't hurt.
What was said there were very vague statements. It's all subjective.
This is an excellent point and I hope people pay attention to it.The good thing is that if we compare the map to the screenshots, the areas in the map aren't 1:1 like they have been in recent ones. It means the areas are going to be bigger than many think.
This is especially notable with the cities
Why play Pokemon if you're going to avoid them? isn't the whole purpose is to catch them all and complete the pokedex?I hate overworld encounters. They make the battles feel pointless to me because I don't have to engage with them if I don't want to.
Love how the pokémon center is an inn in this townThe good thing is that if we compare the map to the screenshots, the areas in the map aren't 1:1 like they have been in recent ones. It means the areas are going to be bigger than many think.
This is especially notable with the cities
Can we not do that thing where we pretend that every single person that bought a game liked it, let alone finished it.More than 14 million people like the old formula, why do you assume there is something wrong with it?
well you should probably read the tweet again and hone in on the successfully running the IP for 23 years part. some homework for you would be to chart the game sales for each main entry in the pokemon series compared to each main entry in the zelda series (no stadium no crossbow training, etc). note things like average sales for the series, percentage drops from entry to entry, variance in sales between major entries, lowest selling game from both, highest selling game from both, stuff like thatWhat I got from that tweet is you should never criticize anything from a franchise as long as it’s making money.
Care to offer a counter argument?
Again I’m looking forward to this game but this idea you can’t complain about anything annoys me.
I mean yeah after Let's go there was not gonna be a revolutionary breath of the wild change.... jesus christ.Its clear by now that Pokemon is gonna stay how it is, so for the people wishing it'll follow in the steps of other games, just play those other games.
I mean I don’t blame them either. I wouldn’t use exactly that reason as a justification, and frankly don’t think they need any justification at all with such a juggernaut of a franchise. People like these games, and they like them the way they are. But damn... I’ve put in easily over 1,000 hours across generations of Pokémon titles and it’s wearying at this point how so many of them feel like the same game.I dont blame them for playing it safe. 3ds is dead, they need at lest one entry compeditive players no will be solid before taking risks.
I feel like vocal conservative fans are the ones who only want to go back again and again to the same region with the same Pokémon.Good for Game Freak that catering to their vocal conservative audience surely costs them so much less than trying something actually new every once in a while. A long, long while.
14 million people buy every single Pokemon game, if they don't like it, then you'd think they wouldn't buy it.Can we not do that thing where we pretend that every single person that bought a game liked it, let alone finished it.
Im thinking part electric!Place your bets:
Which type do you think Scorbunny's final evo will be- part fighting, part electric or some other type?
We don't know anything on the world structure and progression system. To say this game doesn't have any open world qualities because it has some straight paths or vertical world map is a reach. We simply don't know yet.It's definitely not implying BotW-scale changes, but clearly they are directly commenting on ideas about an open(ish) world.
Nice catch. That's a relief to see.The good thing is that if we compare the map to the screenshots, the areas in the map aren't 1:1 like they have been in recent ones. It means the areas are going to be bigger than many think.
This is especially notable with the cities
But is the path as linear as the routes in Sun/Moon?well you should probably read the tweet again and hone in on the successfully running the IP for 23 years part. some homework for you would be to chart the game sales for each main entry in the pokemon series compared to each main entry in the zelda series (no stadium no crossbow training). note things like average sales for the series, percentage drops from entry to entry, variance in sales between major entries, lowest selling game from both, highest selling game from both, stuff like that
then think about how you actually brought up skyward sword as a counter to the tweet you quoted
and that's all without even scratching the surface of pokemon as an overall IP, this is just the major video game entries in the series
hopefully that'll set you in the right path. it's a pretty linear path too so don't feel intimidated
Not really. Open games are more exhausting to play through then linear ones are.Everyone saying they shouldn't change anything because it sells millions are exactly the corporate businessmen in EA, Activision, etc.
Doesn't the gamer in you feel the excessive linearity, hand-holding, railroad "exploration" in the past few games have been exhausting?