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    Most of the people in the West or in North Asia usually never think about it, but Southeast Asia is one of the most depressed and depressing parts of the world. It has been through genocides, wars and atrocious military regimes. Then, those monstrous income disparities. According to The Bangkok Post, in 2018, “the 10%...
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    "Almost two million Cambodians died as a result of Year Zero. John Pilger argues that, without the complicity of the US and Britain, it may never have happened."

    Mao and the Chinese government did not have a genocidal policy. Maoism has nothing to do with genocide. I'm very surprised you do not even know such basic fact.

    Maoism has nothing to do with genocide.

    Yes, it was equal-opportunity starvation. No discrimination.

  • (corrupt governments have been regurgitating every year, for decades, great numbers of cars and polluting scooters wishfully called ‘motorbikes’, instead of providing decent massive public transit systems)

    The original public transit systems that the rest of the world copies were built by private entities. If a significant number of those on scooters were willing to hop off them and pay the fare for a trolley, modern railroads would be interested in expanding their service. As they were a century ago.

  • At first I thought this perpetual virtue signaling and prejudice against Whites was just a Western phenomenon. But it seems there are some exceptions. The only others I can think of who also have the same rhetoric is South Africa’s EFF, and that’s about it. Tankies like Andre Vltchek are very interesting. They have very wild fantasies only rivaled by the most hardcore of far righters and Antifa supporters. And it’s less rooted on class solidarity regardless of race or creed (including the Western working class, of course) and more rooted on, well, a lot of things. Sometimes it’s about Eurasian domination of the West. Other times it’s about the revival of a much larger USSR. All that jazz. I can’t even tell which is worse, anymore. The anti-White, self-hating, virtue signaling agenda of the modern Western left. Or whatever tankies like Andre Vltchek will ramble and virtue signal on about. The former is very whiny, degenerate and laced with so much identity politics, while the latter is very over the top, which is also laced with so much identity politics. I hope this RT article will help: https://www.rt.com/op-ed/434924-left-policy-identity-divided/

  • @byrresheim

    Maoism has nothing to do with genocide. I’m very surprised you do not even know such basic fact.
     
    Thank you, sir, for your refreshing bit of much needed sarcasm.

    Where is your evidence that Mao directly and indirectly advocated genocide, or even eugenics, like Hitler did in Mein Kampf, during his promotion of Nazism, and as the Nazi leader? Furthermore, was there any genocide under Mao’s rule, or in general, under CCP’s rule?

  • @last straw
    "Almost two million Cambodians died as a result of Year Zero. John Pilger argues that, without the complicity of the US and Britain, it may never have happened."

    Mao and the Chinese government did not have a genocidal policy. Maoism has nothing to do with genocide. I'm very surprised you do not even know such basic fact.

    Maoism has nothing to do with genocide. I’m very surprised you do not even know such basic fact.

    Thank you, sir, for your refreshing bit of much needed sarcasm.

    • Replies: @last straw
    Where is your evidence that Mao directly and indirectly advocated genocide, or even eugenics, like Hitler did in Mein Kampf, during his promotion of Nazism, and as the Nazi leader? Furthermore, was there any genocide under Mao's rule, or in general, under CCP's rule?
  • @Jason Liu
    Making friends is by far the most important geopolitical goal for China right now. In American white papers, the first suggestion for confronting China is always "Gang up on China with our rich, first-world allies." They know that their allies are their most powerful weapon short of total war.

    Since America is a smaller country, this is their primary advantage (and our primary weakness). Being rich is no guarantee to being liked, that's the mistake Chinese foreign policy has been making for the last twenty years.

    As for the territorial concessions, I'd wager most people around the world don't even know about them, or would care if they did. They judge China by what it is now.

    ” I’d wager most people around the world don’t even know about them”

    It is the responsibility of the Chinese government to let the world know. Starting from the annexation of South Tibet by the shithole India.

    “They judge China by what it is now.”

    So? Because they drank the MSM kool aid.

    I don’t understand your obsession of being liked. Most China’s neighbors actually has a pretty good opinion of China. After the death of the fuck shit Mao China image actually improves a lot especially after China become more prosperous. But if you read the MSM and drank its kool aid, which you apparently do, everybody hates China. I advise you to travel around in China’s neighborhood and talk to the ordinarily people there instead of reading the MSM in a cave.

  • @mep
    The West indirectly back the Khmer Rouge after it had not only been removed from power in Cambodia (except for a few areas along the Thai border) but after it repudiated Communism and stated its commitment to a multiparty system. The crimes committed by the Khmer Rouge were done when its only international ally was China, and its policies were entirely consistent with Maoism.

    The fact that the West continued their support to Khmer Rouge after the full exposure of the horrors of Cambodia genocide speaks volumes about their hypocrisy.

  • @mep
    The West indirectly back the Khmer Rouge after it had not only been removed from power in Cambodia (except for a few areas along the Thai border) but after it repudiated Communism and stated its commitment to a multiparty system. The crimes committed by the Khmer Rouge were done when its only international ally was China, and its policies were entirely consistent with Maoism.

    “Almost two million Cambodians died as a result of Year Zero. John Pilger argues that, without the complicity of the US and Britain, it may never have happened.”

    Mao and the Chinese government did not have a genocidal policy. Maoism has nothing to do with genocide. I’m very surprised you do not even know such basic fact.

    • Replies: @byrresheim

    Maoism has nothing to do with genocide. I’m very surprised you do not even know such basic fact.
     
    Thank you, sir, for your refreshing bit of much needed sarcasm.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Maoism has nothing to do with genocide.
     
    Yes, it was equal-opportunity starvation. No discrimination.
  • @last straw

    CCP killed 10s of millions, burned books in the Cult Revolt, and backed the Khmer Rouge.
     
    Tens of millions Chinese (maybe 5% of the population) died of starvation in a famine that was started by a combination of Mao's crazy economic and agricultural policies and natural disasters, and then exacerbated by the subsequent mismanagement by Mao's one-man rule government at the time. But it was not murder.

    The U.S., U.K., and the West also backed Khmer Rouge.

    The West indirectly back the Khmer Rouge after it had not only been removed from power in Cambodia (except for a few areas along the Thai border) but after it repudiated Communism and stated its commitment to a multiparty system. The crimes committed by the Khmer Rouge were done when its only international ally was China, and its policies were entirely consistent with Maoism.

    • Replies: @last straw
    "Almost two million Cambodians died as a result of Year Zero. John Pilger argues that, without the complicity of the US and Britain, it may never have happened."

    Mao and the Chinese government did not have a genocidal policy. Maoism has nothing to do with genocide. I'm very surprised you do not even know such basic fact.

    , @last straw
    The fact that the West continued their support to Khmer Rouge after the full exposure of the horrors of Cambodia genocide speaks volumes about their hypocrisy.
  • @DB Cooper
    Make no mistake it IS territorial concession and the CCP (specifically the piece of shit and traitor of a thousand years Mao) is responsible for it. And what this obsession of to be liked? If China is not to be liked its other countries problem, not China. If you want to be liked be wealthy and prosperous. If you are poor you can be the niceness country giving out territories left and right and people will hate you, understand?

    1970s is not ancient history. I can assure you Chinese all over the world including in Taiwan will hate the CCP more if the CCP don't get back South Tibet from the shithole India and the islands in SCS.

    Making friends is by far the most important geopolitical goal for China right now. In American white papers, the first suggestion for confronting China is always “Gang up on China with our rich, first-world allies.” They know that their allies are their most powerful weapon short of total war.

    Since America is a smaller country, this is their primary advantage (and our primary weakness). Being rich is no guarantee to being liked, that’s the mistake Chinese foreign policy has been making for the last twenty years.

    As for the territorial concessions, I’d wager most people around the world don’t even know about them, or would care if they did. They judge China by what it is now.

    • Replies: @DB Cooper
    " I’d wager most people around the world don’t even know about them"

    It is the responsibility of the Chinese government to let the world know. Starting from the annexation of South Tibet by the shithole India.

    "They judge China by what it is now."

    So? Because they drank the MSM kool aid.

    I don't understand your obsession of being liked. Most China's neighbors actually has a pretty good opinion of China. After the death of the fuck shit Mao China image actually improves a lot especially after China become more prosperous. But if you read the MSM and drank its kool aid, which you apparently do, everybody hates China. I advise you to travel around in China's neighborhood and talk to the ordinarily people there instead of reading the MSM in a cave.

  • @Anon2020
    It's a good thing they gave away those territories. The CCP has enough trouble with 1.4 Billion mouths to feed. The last thing China needs is more people. Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered.

    By the way outer Mongolia is rich in minerals and South Tibet is lush and is rich in hydroelectric potentials. It is under the CCP’s watch that outer Mongolia became independent and South Tibet was invaded and annexed by the filthy smelly rapey cow piss drinking open defecating uncivilized eat-with-bare-right-hand-wipe-ass-with-bare-left-hand low IQ slumdog fourth world shithole India.

    Free South Tibet from the shithole India.

  • @Anon2020
    It's a good thing they gave away those territories. The CCP has enough trouble with 1.4 Billion mouths to feed. The last thing China needs is more people. Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered.

    Is that what the CCP told you? Fuck the CCP then. “It’s a good thing they gave away those territories. ” Yeah right. No wonder the CCP is hated by all Chinese outside mainland. This is probably the first time I heard someone say dumb shit like that. Even Putin said there is not one inch of Russian territory that can be conceded when Russia’s territory span eleven time zones.

  • @Anon2020
    I am not quite a fan of BRI as Mr. Vltchek is. The Chinese are calculating businessmen. It is not all kumbaya-we-are-the-world completely altruistic motives behind the BRI. China has to be getting something out of it. More connected countries = more connected markets for Chinese goods = more jobs for Chinese people. Ultimately it is all about business for these mercantile people.

    But the Chinese are playing with fire, and could end up bringing more chaos everywhere by getting everyone all connected. It'll make it much harder for countries to control their borders. As of now we could still sort of control who gets on an airplane and who could get through airport security. Once we are all connected by railways and roads, this will be much harder, like the Europeans who ended up having to establish the passport free Schengen area. If the Europeans are wary of Africans arriving by boats, just wait til' all of the Mideast and Asia start arriving by train. This is globalization on steroids.

    I'm just glad America will not become part of this BRI globalization deathtrap thanks to the two oceans around us. Can you imagine all the effing poor all over the world just hopping on a train and moving here?

    I’m guessing you would piss and moan if a place lacked infrastructure and it was difficult to get around, and obviously you’re pissing and moaning about too much.

    Can you imagine all the effing poor all over the world just hopping on a train and moving here?

    I can dream can’t I?

  • @DB Cooper
    "China comes off as a bully to many SEA nations.." " ... it’s the other party’s perception that matters."

    The fact of the matter is once the CCP came into power it has been giving away Chinese land left and right. Even Myanmar got a piece of China because the CCP agreed to the alignment of the so called McMahon Line, which is a diplomatic forgery and that no Chinese government has ever recognized. In the 1970s the Philippines got some islands, Vietnam, Malaysia and Indonesia all got some islands. And the CCP make no fuss when the issue of Diaoyutai island first came up in the 1970s. It was Taiwan that kept the issue alive. And South Tibet was invaded and annexed by India under the CCP's watch.

    It’s a good thing they gave away those territories. The CCP has enough trouble with 1.4 Billion mouths to feed. The last thing China needs is more people. Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered.

    • Replies: @DB Cooper
    Is that what the CCP told you? Fuck the CCP then. "It’s a good thing they gave away those territories. " Yeah right. No wonder the CCP is hated by all Chinese outside mainland. This is probably the first time I heard someone say dumb shit like that. Even Putin said there is not one inch of Russian territory that can be conceded when Russia's territory span eleven time zones.
    , @DB Cooper
    By the way outer Mongolia is rich in minerals and South Tibet is lush and is rich in hydroelectric potentials. It is under the CCP's watch that outer Mongolia became independent and South Tibet was invaded and annexed by the filthy smelly rapey cow piss drinking open defecating uncivilized eat-with-bare-right-hand-wipe-ass-with-bare-left-hand low IQ slumdog fourth world shithole India.

    Free South Tibet from the shithole India.

  • @alma123
    Agreed. I live in BKK as well and in general people seem satisfied. On a recent trip to KL, Malaysia, which is filled with glitz and obviously wants to be a world-class city, I thought that Thailand seems to have no such aspirations for the cookie-cutter high rises filled with overpriced malls (though there are plenty here). Thai people mostly seem to want to be good Buddhists. As for safety, maybe they don't attack foreigners, but I walk for miles at ALL HOURS, DAILY, completely unmolested. I actually think they take me for a local. My Thai friends say they know lots of people with credit card debt, but how would that change with more Chinese-funded development? On a recent trip to Laos we saw the Chinese construction of the railway in action. Lots of temporary housing for imported Chinese labor, they even bring in much of their own food, so where's the benefit to the locals? My guides there said the Chinese probably paid off local politicians to get the right to build. Maybe in the future there will be a benefit to the Lao people, who will leave their villages after they discover the array of junk food and makeup available in the cities and have their local lifestyle and traditions die out. It's their choice, of course, but who's telling them the crappy products won't make them happy in the long run?

    Yep. Chinese style development focuses on materialism and is ultimately soulless. All the countries touched by BRI will lose their soul to Chinese driven materialism.

    Of course, America’s multinational corporations and Hollywood started this whole material girl for material world shtick. Now China is just taking it to a whole new level, turning all 7B people in the world into high consumption soulless materialistic zombies like the Chinese.

  • I am not quite a fan of BRI as Mr. Vltchek is. The Chinese are calculating businessmen. It is not all kumbaya-we-are-the-world completely altruistic motives behind the BRI. China has to be getting something out of it. More connected countries = more connected markets for Chinese goods = more jobs for Chinese people. Ultimately it is all about business for these mercantile people.

    But the Chinese are playing with fire, and could end up bringing more chaos everywhere by getting everyone all connected. It’ll make it much harder for countries to control their borders. As of now we could still sort of control who gets on an airplane and who could get through airport security. Once we are all connected by railways and roads, this will be much harder, like the Europeans who ended up having to establish the passport free Schengen area. If the Europeans are wary of Africans arriving by boats, just wait til’ all of the Mideast and Asia start arriving by train. This is globalization on steroids.

    I’m just glad America will not become part of this BRI globalization deathtrap thanks to the two oceans around us. Can you imagine all the effing poor all over the world just hopping on a train and moving here?

    • Replies: @Biff
    I’m guessing you would piss and moan if a place lacked infrastructure and it was difficult to get around, and obviously you’re pissing and moaning about too much.

    Can you imagine all the effing poor all over the world just hopping on a train and moving here?
     
    I can dream can’t I?
  • Demography is destiny. What differentiates Northeast Asia from the rest of Asia is simply this: IQ. Here’s a look at the average IQ of these countries:

    Northeast Asia (incl. Greater China):

    [MORE]

    ——————————————————
    China: 105
    Japan: 105
    South Korea: 106
    HK: 108
    Singapore: 108
    Taiwan: 104

    Southeast Asia:
    ——————-
    Vietnam: 94
    Malaysia: 92
    Thailand: 91
    Brunei: 91
    Cambodia: 91
    Laos: 89
    Indonesia: 87
    Myanmar: 87
    Philippines: 86

    Central Asia:
    —————
    Kazakhstan: 94
    Kyrgyzstan: 90
    Uzbekistan: 87
    Turkmenistan: 87
    Tajikistan: 87
    Azerbaijan: 87

    South Asia:
    ————–
    Pakistan: 84
    Bangladesh: 82
    India: 82
    Sri Lanka: 79

    The level of development in each region mirrors their average IQ: Northeast Asia being best developed, followed by Central Asia thanks to oil, the USSR and a sparse population, then Southeast Asia with pockets of modern development mixed with pockets of poverty, but still prosperous compared to South Asia, the sewer pit of humanity. Brunei and Malaysia are more prosperous due to oil. Malaysia also has the largest % of Chinese immigrants at 22%. Thailand’s next at 12%. The rest all have <3% Chinese. Vietnamese are probably closest in kinship to the Chinese. The rest like the native Cambodians, Malays, Indonesians, Filipinos, South Indians are brown rather than yellow and are Australoids not Mongoloids.

    Yes the west did lots of evil things to Southeast Asia and South Asia through colonialism and post war imperialism, but we did equally horrible things to Northeast Asia as well, and those countries still managed to claw their way out of poverty and into first world status. For how long can you continue to use imperialism as an excuse to explain away these places' corruption and poverty?

    IQ is destiny.

  • Make no mistake it IS territorial concession and the CCP (specifically the piece of shit and traitor of a thousand years Mao) is responsible for it. And what this obsession of to be liked? If China is not to be liked its other countries problem, not China. If you want to be liked be wealthy and prosperous. If you are poor you can be the niceness country giving out territories left and right and people will hate you, understand?

    1970s is not ancient history. I can assure you Chinese all over the world including in Taiwan will hate the CCP more if the CCP don’t get back South Tibet from the shithole India and the islands in SCS.

    • Replies: @Jason Liu
    Making friends is by far the most important geopolitical goal for China right now. In American white papers, the first suggestion for confronting China is always "Gang up on China with our rich, first-world allies." They know that their allies are their most powerful weapon short of total war.

    Since America is a smaller country, this is their primary advantage (and our primary weakness). Being rich is no guarantee to being liked, that's the mistake Chinese foreign policy has been making for the last twenty years.

    As for the territorial concessions, I'd wager most people around the world don't even know about them, or would care if they did. They judge China by what it is now.
  • @DB Cooper
    "China comes off as a bully to many SEA nations.." " ... it’s the other party’s perception that matters."

    The fact of the matter is once the CCP came into power it has been giving away Chinese land left and right. Even Myanmar got a piece of China because the CCP agreed to the alignment of the so called McMahon Line, which is a diplomatic forgery and that no Chinese government has ever recognized. In the 1970s the Philippines got some islands, Vietnam, Malaysia and Indonesia all got some islands. And the CCP make no fuss when the issue of Diaoyutai island first came up in the 1970s. It was Taiwan that kept the issue alive. And South Tibet was invaded and annexed by India under the CCP's watch.

    I know, but it’s not necessarily a matter of territorial concessions. People are emotional creatures, it’s about how a certain country makes them feel. The 1970s seem like ancient history right now, they’re all focused on current disputes. If China is liked, it might not even matter if we held onto those lands forever, or at least maintained the status quo.

  • @Priss Factor
    CCP killed 10s of millions, burned books in the Cult Revolt, and backed the Khmer Rouge.

    Since Mao died, mainland China has done better for the same reason that Taiwan, Singapore, Hong Kong, and Chinese minorities in SE Asia have done well. Chinese are smarter and have Confucian culture moderated by modernity.

    If China had tons of Indonesian native morons as the majority, it'd be a mess EVEN IF ruled by CCP.

    CCP killed 10s of millions, burned books in the Cult Revolt, and backed the Khmer Rouge.

    Tens of millions Chinese (maybe 5% of the population) died of starvation in a famine that was started by a combination of Mao’s crazy economic and agricultural policies and natural disasters, and then exacerbated by the subsequent mismanagement by Mao’s one-man rule government at the time. But it was not murder.

    The U.S., U.K., and the West also backed Khmer Rouge.

    • Replies: @mep
    The West indirectly back the Khmer Rouge after it had not only been removed from power in Cambodia (except for a few areas along the Thai border) but after it repudiated Communism and stated its commitment to a multiparty system. The crimes committed by the Khmer Rouge were done when its only international ally was China, and its policies were entirely consistent with Maoism.
  • @DB Cooper
    "China comes off as a bully to many SEA nations.." " ... it’s the other party’s perception that matters."

    The fact of the matter is once the CCP came into power it has been giving away Chinese land left and right. Even Myanmar got a piece of China because the CCP agreed to the alignment of the so called McMahon Line, which is a diplomatic forgery and that no Chinese government has ever recognized. In the 1970s the Philippines got some islands, Vietnam, Malaysia and Indonesia all got some islands. And the CCP make no fuss when the issue of Diaoyutai island first came up in the 1970s. It was Taiwan that kept the issue alive. And South Tibet was invaded and annexed by India under the CCP's watch.

    FYI the so called MacMahon line (which is a diplomatic forgery) extend all the way to from India Myanmar.

  • @Adude
    Southern tour was in 1992. Deng died in 97.

    Yes you are right. I was thinking 1993 but for some reason I typed 2003. But may be it should be 1992. I am getting old.

  • @Jason Liu
    It's 6000 years now? Note that the oldest civilizations, Egypt and Sumer, are 5000 years old.

    I appreciate the support, Andre, but your rhetoric is over the top. Despite the horrible things done under western colonialism, a lot of SEA countries still look up to the US. The thinking seems to be "Westerners were bad before but China is bad/worse now." This is the product of American soft power, and China's lack of soft power.

    The most pro-China countries seem to have friendly governments, but often skeptical citizens (Philippines, Vietnam, Thailand), and are propped up by Chinese investment. That's a shaky relationship and cannot be considered real friendship by any means. Many are fence sitters who would easily side with America if something goes wrong with us (Malaysia, Indonesia, all Polynesian nations).

    China comes off as a bully to many SEA nations, not a protective big brother like I would prefer (except maybe with Myanmar). Whether it intended to do this or not is irrelevant, it's the other party's perception that matters. It's possible to turn this around, but it'll take time. We have to starting courting SEA now with new diplomatic methods before the US tries to consolidate the region against us.

    “China comes off as a bully to many SEA nations..” ” … it’s the other party’s perception that matters.”

    The fact of the matter is once the CCP came into power it has been giving away Chinese land left and right. Even Myanmar got a piece of China because the CCP agreed to the alignment of the so called McMahon Line, which is a diplomatic forgery and that no Chinese government has ever recognized. In the 1970s the Philippines got some islands, Vietnam, Malaysia and Indonesia all got some islands. And the CCP make no fuss when the issue of Diaoyutai island first came up in the 1970s. It was Taiwan that kept the issue alive. And South Tibet was invaded and annexed by India under the CCP’s watch.

    • Replies: @DB Cooper
    FYI the so called MacMahon line (which is a diplomatic forgery) extend all the way to from India Myanmar.
    , @Jason Liu
    I know, but it's not necessarily a matter of territorial concessions. People are emotional creatures, it's about how a certain country makes them feel. The 1970s seem like ancient history right now, they're all focused on current disputes. If China is liked, it might not even matter if we held onto those lands forever, or at least maintained the status quo.
    , @Anon2020
    It's a good thing they gave away those territories. The CCP has enough trouble with 1.4 Billion mouths to feed. The last thing China needs is more people. Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered.
  • @DB Cooper
    I would say 1979 and 2003 are the two momentous years most responsible for China's rise. 1979 is the year of the 'reform and opening' up initiated by Deng. 2003 is the year when Deng took the famous 'southern tour' that once and for all put China on the right path to today's prosperity.

    Southern tour was in 1992. Deng died in 97.

    • Replies: @DB Cooper
    Yes you are right. I was thinking 1993 but for some reason I typed 2003. But may be it should be 1992. I am getting old.
  • @Jason Liu
    It's 6000 years now? Note that the oldest civilizations, Egypt and Sumer, are 5000 years old.

    I appreciate the support, Andre, but your rhetoric is over the top. Despite the horrible things done under western colonialism, a lot of SEA countries still look up to the US. The thinking seems to be "Westerners were bad before but China is bad/worse now." This is the product of American soft power, and China's lack of soft power.

    The most pro-China countries seem to have friendly governments, but often skeptical citizens (Philippines, Vietnam, Thailand), and are propped up by Chinese investment. That's a shaky relationship and cannot be considered real friendship by any means. Many are fence sitters who would easily side with America if something goes wrong with us (Malaysia, Indonesia, all Polynesian nations).

    China comes off as a bully to many SEA nations, not a protective big brother like I would prefer (except maybe with Myanmar). Whether it intended to do this or not is irrelevant, it's the other party's perception that matters. It's possible to turn this around, but it'll take time. We have to starting courting SEA now with new diplomatic methods before the US tries to consolidate the region against us.

    Let’s all just see what happens. I have my own experiences as a Filipino myself. I’ve already watched Empire of Dust many times before. Honestly, I can’t blame the Chinese for being frustrated about Africans, at all. Hundreds of years of colonialism and yet they’ve learned nothing from their revolutions. As if all of it just went about as normal occurrences in their daily lives. And I an tell you, not one of them tried to uplift themselves from poverty despite living above the most valuable resources in the entire planet. The Middle East was able to advance after colonialism, just before they were all blown back to the Stone Age. So why couldn’t they do the same?

    As for Southeast Asia, specifically Malaysia and Indonesia, the only country they’re truly against is Israel. All the rest are pro-Israel including my own country (the Philippines). Russia, China, Iran, and Venezuela follow through their own interests. Not some French Revolution-esque fantasy as Andre would claim. The former two nations are very much willing to have ties with Israel. While the latter two nations always show great hostility towards Israel. Iranians also see Saddam Hussein as a corrupt communist dictator backed by the Soviets and Western powers. When it comes to the attitude towards the US in the two Muslim-majority countries in Southeast Asia, they’re just simply against US foreign policy, not the American people, just like Iran.

    As for Russia and China, they just want more global influence. They don’t really much interfere with Iran’s or Venezuela’s affairs. Likewise, Putin is many things but he’s really more conservative compared to how tankies like Andre Vltchek see him as such. Even once said that mass immigration and open borders is nothing more than a Western liberal idea that is hellbent on displacing cultures. Same thing he said about Western LGBT propaganda. In this case he’s very much right, they should never be allowed to displace the majority culture. Because that’s how divide, alienation, animosity, separatism, and extremism prevails. Whether “right” or “left”, as Westerners would put it.

  • @alma123
    Agreed. I live in BKK as well and in general people seem satisfied. On a recent trip to KL, Malaysia, which is filled with glitz and obviously wants to be a world-class city, I thought that Thailand seems to have no such aspirations for the cookie-cutter high rises filled with overpriced malls (though there are plenty here). Thai people mostly seem to want to be good Buddhists. As for safety, maybe they don't attack foreigners, but I walk for miles at ALL HOURS, DAILY, completely unmolested. I actually think they take me for a local. My Thai friends say they know lots of people with credit card debt, but how would that change with more Chinese-funded development? On a recent trip to Laos we saw the Chinese construction of the railway in action. Lots of temporary housing for imported Chinese labor, they even bring in much of their own food, so where's the benefit to the locals? My guides there said the Chinese probably paid off local politicians to get the right to build. Maybe in the future there will be a benefit to the Lao people, who will leave their villages after they discover the array of junk food and makeup available in the cities and have their local lifestyle and traditions die out. It's their choice, of course, but who's telling them the crappy products won't make them happy in the long run?

    Lots of temporary housing for imported Chinese labor

    Are you sure they’re Chinese? Most of the imported(low wage) labor in Thailand is from Burma.

  • It’s 6000 years now? Note that the oldest civilizations, Egypt and Sumer, are 5000 years old.

    I appreciate the support, Andre, but your rhetoric is over the top. Despite the horrible things done under western colonialism, a lot of SEA countries still look up to the US. The thinking seems to be “Westerners were bad before but China is bad/worse now.” This is the product of American soft power, and China’s lack of soft power.

    The most pro-China countries seem to have friendly governments, but often skeptical citizens (Philippines, Vietnam, Thailand), and are propped up by Chinese investment. That’s a shaky relationship and cannot be considered real friendship by any means. Many are fence sitters who would easily side with America if something goes wrong with us (Malaysia, Indonesia, all Polynesian nations).

    China comes off as a bully to many SEA nations, not a protective big brother like I would prefer (except maybe with Myanmar). Whether it intended to do this or not is irrelevant, it’s the other party’s perception that matters. It’s possible to turn this around, but it’ll take time. We have to starting courting SEA now with new diplomatic methods before the US tries to consolidate the region against us.

    • Replies: @ADayInTheLifeOfNero
    Let's all just see what happens. I have my own experiences as a Filipino myself. I've already watched Empire of Dust many times before. Honestly, I can't blame the Chinese for being frustrated about Africans, at all. Hundreds of years of colonialism and yet they've learned nothing from their revolutions. As if all of it just went about as normal occurrences in their daily lives. And I an tell you, not one of them tried to uplift themselves from poverty despite living above the most valuable resources in the entire planet. The Middle East was able to advance after colonialism, just before they were all blown back to the Stone Age. So why couldn't they do the same?

    As for Southeast Asia, specifically Malaysia and Indonesia, the only country they're truly against is Israel. All the rest are pro-Israel including my own country (the Philippines). Russia, China, Iran, and Venezuela follow through their own interests. Not some French Revolution-esque fantasy as Andre would claim. The former two nations are very much willing to have ties with Israel. While the latter two nations always show great hostility towards Israel. Iranians also see Saddam Hussein as a corrupt communist dictator backed by the Soviets and Western powers. When it comes to the attitude towards the US in the two Muslim-majority countries in Southeast Asia, they're just simply against US foreign policy, not the American people, just like Iran.

    As for Russia and China, they just want more global influence. They don't really much interfere with Iran's or Venezuela's affairs. Likewise, Putin is many things but he's really more conservative compared to how tankies like Andre Vltchek see him as such. Even once said that mass immigration and open borders is nothing more than a Western liberal idea that is hellbent on displacing cultures. Same thing he said about Western LGBT propaganda. In this case he's very much right, they should never be allowed to displace the majority culture. Because that's how divide, alienation, animosity, separatism, and extremism prevails. Whether "right" or "left", as Westerners would put it.

    , @DB Cooper
    "China comes off as a bully to many SEA nations.." " ... it’s the other party’s perception that matters."

    The fact of the matter is once the CCP came into power it has been giving away Chinese land left and right. Even Myanmar got a piece of China because the CCP agreed to the alignment of the so called McMahon Line, which is a diplomatic forgery and that no Chinese government has ever recognized. In the 1970s the Philippines got some islands, Vietnam, Malaysia and Indonesia all got some islands. And the CCP make no fuss when the issue of Diaoyutai island first came up in the 1970s. It was Taiwan that kept the issue alive. And South Tibet was invaded and annexed by India under the CCP's watch.

  • Another thing about this Andre guy. It wouldn’t surprise me if he’ll try some fleeting mental gymnastics to justify the killing of his so called enemies. In this case it’s any Westerner, Eastern European and Japanese. He might not suggest such things, but again it’s very plausible. Now, being against modern Western degeneracy (feminism, progressivism, modernity, LGBT propaganda, trannyism, etc.) is very understandable. And yes I said progressivism, because how is it not a Western concept? Why is Andre Vltchek trying so hard to forget about this fact? Anyways, he cares more about identity politics than class solidarity. I’ve said this so many times, but only because there might be a slight chance he’ll hear about this comment. But since he did block me on Twitter, he might not even do such a thing.

    No one in these countries would even waste their time guilt tripping Western tourists for being Westerners. I say this as an actual Filipino. They’re mostly liberal and leftist degenerates, but still. Even in China, Cuba or Iran, barely anyone says what Andre says about Westerners. In fact, anti-White and anti-Christian racism/prejudice is more prevalent on their own Western countries from Western liberals and leftists who are all very anal for identity politics. While also simultaneously believing in the same Western degeneracies as if they are “liberating” and “revolutionary.” In fact the Chinese, Russians and Iranians view feminism, trannyism, and LGBT propaganda as pure cancer. Good on them. I don’t even know if Andre Vltchek supports all of those Western degeneracies while laughably claiming it’s “anti-Western.” Because if he does, then that would just be extremely pathetic, nonsensical, ahistorical, and retarded.

    It was literally colonialism that spread such Western degeneracies. And yes again, this includes progressivism that Andre Vltchek oh so worships like a religion. The greatest irony on his part. I blame all of this historical revisionism on “decolonial studies” residing in Western universities, to be honest.

  • Typical leftist political hate against the West. After decolonization countries with lower average IQ are going backwards because of their own problems.

  • Chinese colonialism = GOOD
    European colonialism = BAD
    I wonder if the countries that feel for China’s debt trap diplomacy think that China was their saviour? Further, isn’t it interesting that Singapore can be a stable, safe and efficient country when compared to some of the other disasters surrouding it. I wonder what could possibly be different?

    I laughed at this:

    “It is time to try a different approach. An approach which has already saved hundreds of millions of people from misery; by giving them new lives, education, health, culture and dignity…The people of Southeast Asia have to be informed about the choices they have. Once the people of Southeast Asia know the truth, colonialism will end”

    What irony!

  • tens of millions of foreign tourists descend on this ruined part of the world, annually. They see nothing. Some like it. They only nurture their complexes of superiority here. They do not want to understand anything. They choose to be blind. Cheap sex, shitty alcohol and beach food, as well as monumental sunburns. They continue the demolition work which has been triggered by their governments.

    Excellent description of the typical Western tourists protected by the NATO-backed kakistocracy.

    Great article!

  • @Biff

    Crime is out of control. Thailand has, per capita, according to Interpol, a higher murder rate than the United States.
     
    Well, say what you will about Bangkok, and I probably won’t argue a whole lot, because this place is quite dynamic, and I certainly don’t know all the facts after only a few years of living here, but I will say that compared to where I used to live in the U.S., Thailand is quite crime free. The group of ex-pats I hang with are mostly from large European cities and they all say the same thing - walking around late at night is not a problem, and there aren’t any no-go zones - there is one area along Sukhumvit where Africans hang out selling fake drugs and other scams, and the police move in about every three months and shake them down, and deport any illegals - you can call them racist all you want, and they will just agree with you - it becomes a moot argument real quick. It keeps the peace.

    As for slums, I will admit that certain homes just aren’t pretty, but there are far less homeless people here in Bangkok than back in the U.S., and most importantly, is the general mood Thai people have is that they seem happy or at least satisfied with there situation; you have to realize things are improving around here - standard of living is getting better - can’t say that about the working class in America though.

    Political turmoil is still ongoing considering they are still hanging to the stupidity that is democracy, and the scam of stacked elections, but they did rid themselves of the toxic politics of Thaksin and his bankster cronies who wanted to put the entire country into debt servitude much like they did to Greece, and Ireland. I was thinking the bankers were going to win, but the Thais braved it out, and ran them out of town and the country like a flock of gypsys. Yay for that.

    One more thing - China is building high seed rail to link the north to the south. Yay for that too.

    Agreed. I live in BKK as well and in general people seem satisfied. On a recent trip to KL, Malaysia, which is filled with glitz and obviously wants to be a world-class city, I thought that Thailand seems to have no such aspirations for the cookie-cutter high rises filled with overpriced malls (though there are plenty here). Thai people mostly seem to want to be good Buddhists. As for safety, maybe they don’t attack foreigners, but I walk for miles at ALL HOURS, DAILY, completely unmolested. I actually think they take me for a local. My Thai friends say they know lots of people with credit card debt, but how would that change with more Chinese-funded development? On a recent trip to Laos we saw the Chinese construction of the railway in action. Lots of temporary housing for imported Chinese labor, they even bring in much of their own food, so where’s the benefit to the locals? My guides there said the Chinese probably paid off local politicians to get the right to build. Maybe in the future there will be a benefit to the Lao people, who will leave their villages after they discover the array of junk food and makeup available in the cities and have their local lifestyle and traditions die out. It’s their choice, of course, but who’s telling them the crappy products won’t make them happy in the long run?

    • Replies: @Biff

    Lots of temporary housing for imported Chinese labor
     
    Are you sure they’re Chinese? Most of the imported(low wage) labor in Thailand is from Burma.
    , @Anon2020
    Yep. Chinese style development focuses on materialism and is ultimately soulless. All the countries touched by BRI will lose their soul to Chinese driven materialism.

    Of course, America's multinational corporations and Hollywood started this whole material girl for material world shtick. Now China is just taking it to a whole new level, turning all 7B people in the world into high consumption soulless materialistic zombies like the Chinese.

  • While it is definitely honorable for Andre Vltchek to support Duterte despite UN’s annoying squeals and screeches about human rights violations, you can tell Andre Vltchek is still not even remotely interested in helping ANY working class citizen regardless of race, ethnicity or creed. Considering how he still demonizes the Western working class all because they deeply care about there people more than others and even lumping them in with Western elites. Is the former even so wrong? Are we supposed to say that they are “not being oppressed and exploited as others”? How will this make them any less oppressed and exploited by their own elites? This isn’t a contest, but it seems Andre Vltchek is very willing to use the Oppression Olympics as much as he can for his own narratives. So by his own logic, the plight of the Yellow Vests “never mattered” because they’re only protesting about the wellbeing of their people instead of wars. Very ridiculous argument. How is this Marxism, again? How in the world is this class solidarity?

    As I’ve said before, no one’s going to benefit from destroying the borders of the West BUT the elites doing the imperialism in the first place. This will severely cripple the Western working class. As well as create even more inequality, cheap labor, exploitation, and neoliberalism. But our boy tankie comrade Andre Stalin here says otherwise. Because he’s now more or less willing to divide them from the rest of the world’s working class all because they’re Westerners. Even willing to make the Soviet Union look like the Land of Milk and Honey. Despite one of its biggest legacies creating Russian poets and writers writing all about the disturbing apathy of the Soviet citizens and the iron will of the prisoners of the GULAG.

    Even RT.com acknowledges these Soviet atrocities: https://russiapedia.rt.com/of-russian-origin/the-gulag/. While Andre Vltchek here acts as one of the tankies left out there in the scene to defend everything it stood for. Even if it means demonizing and chastising the exploited Western working class. I was once told that the left nowadays is now all about identity politics instead of class solidarity. From I’ve seen, Western or sometimes even non-Western in Andre’s case, I cannot deny that. So, I will put on this favorite comment reply of mine again from his other article: https://www.unz.com/avltchek/why-are-anti-migrant-arguments-in-the-e-u-u-s-pure-hypocrisy/

    Here it is in all of its glory:

    Andre Vltchek: “Tiny Lebanon managed to survive an influx of 2 million refugees at the height of so-called “Syrian crises”. Crime rate did not skyrocket, country did not collapse.”

    Joe Levantine: “Well knowing the Lebanese very well, I beg to differ with what you have claimed. Lebanon was unable to stop the flow of Syrian refugees not because the Lebanese are such compassionate people but more because they have a totally dysfunctional government courtesy of their sectarian and multiculturalist society. The influx of Palestinian refugees in 1948 was the direct catalyst to the brutal and devastating civil war for which Lebanon is still paying a high price up to today. In fact the people who were mostly in favour of opening the border to the Palestinian refugees in 1948 and the recent Syrian refugees were the Sunnis out of religious solidarity and to get an numerical edge over other sects in Lebanon at the behest of the American government and its regional allies. Needless to say that the greatest danger to Lebanon, just like any other third world country that had to contend with Imperial occupation, is the rampant corruption that has taken hold of the country especially after the end of the civil war whose main protagonists are big business and ex militia leaders who joined in an unholy alliance. The same applies to most other countries who yell ‘ imperialism’. While I do agree with you about the evils of imperialism, when it comes to Western ‘ White’ imperialism one should set the record straight as to whose imperialism it actually is; the imperialism of the people or that of the elites and specifically the Zionist bankers. We cannot blame the people for enjoying the bread crumbs of the imperial loot or equally blame the British commoner about being proud about the British Empire. The people are always ignorant of the facts and misled by their rulers. And who are those people advocating unrestricted immigration to the West? Well they are the same elites who want to keep down the wages of their nationals. So we cannot blame populist parties for advocating a restriction on foreigners entering their country. Your claim of Western Imperial guilt about the recent influx of refugees from Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Honduras and other countries that were devastated by wars and coup D’etat perpetrated by the combined aggression of the US, U K and France is very much true. Yet, this kind of imperialism is no different from the one the Southern American Federation suffered at the hands of Northern Unionist aggression. American Southerners were White and victims of imperialism. And populist parties have the duty to bring their governments to account for their evil deeds in all the afflicted countries which contributed to the refugee crisis. But to chastise the people for wanting to protect their culture from the influx of unassimilable refugees is a form of intellectual and cultural terrorism.”

  • @Scotto
    Well, one can call China communist or socialist all she/he wants, but the start was with the "Chinese Miracle of the 70's" Deng did more for China by allowing market reforms(that is Capitalism, or Free Markets) than any other Chinese person in thousands of years. Don't take my word for it, read the history yourself. There no use arguing this fact: freer people live better lives. It may take them a while to get there, but they will.

    I would say 1979 and 2003 are the two momentous years most responsible for China’s rise. 1979 is the year of the ‘reform and opening’ up initiated by Deng. 2003 is the year when Deng took the famous ‘southern tour’ that once and for all put China on the right path to today’s prosperity.

    • Replies: @Adude
    Southern tour was in 1992. Deng died in 97.
  • Let’s get a couple of things straight.
    Capitalism/Empire are manifestations of Talmudism, just as Communism is. Look at who prospered most in the (((Dutch))) (((French))) and (((British))) Empires, as well as in the (((Bolshevik))) USSR. Both systems seek to concentrate power in the hands of a few.
    Mao’s scorched earth policy allowed the reforms to succeed, whether he intended it or not, because there was almost nothing left to work with other than the labour of the people.
    It’s not “the West” or “capitalism” that is opposed, it’s the people who control the financial system and media who are opposed. It is they who stand to lose the most, as the Chinese use the same tactics to their advantage.
    It is good to see that the author understands that there is a difference between socialism and communism. The Chinese model is a blend of both. Many of the private companies have large worker participation in ownership. Unlike the capitalist model, the management is actually interested in what they think.

  • I don’t like the Chinese government and its “social credit” totalitarianism but I wish them luck in providing an alternative to the Western plunder-based system of capitalism. Maybe the poor in Thailand and Indonesia will have some hope after all.

  • Well, one can call China communist or socialist all she/he wants, but the start was with the “Chinese Miracle of the 70’s” Deng did more for China by allowing market reforms(that is Capitalism, or Free Markets) than any other Chinese person in thousands of years. Don’t take my word for it, read the history yourself. There no use arguing this fact: freer people live better lives. It may take them a while to get there, but they will.

    • Replies: @DB Cooper
    I would say 1979 and 2003 are the two momentous years most responsible for China's rise. 1979 is the year of the 'reform and opening' up initiated by Deng. 2003 is the year when Deng took the famous 'southern tour' that once and for all put China on the right path to today's prosperity.
  • Crime is out of control. Thailand has, per capita, according to Interpol, a higher murder rate than the United States.

    Well, say what you will about Bangkok, and I probably won’t argue a whole lot, because this place is quite dynamic, and I certainly don’t know all the facts after only a few years of living here, but I will say that compared to where I used to live in the U.S., Thailand is quite crime free. The group of ex-pats I hang with are mostly from large European cities and they all say the same thing – walking around late at night is not a problem, and there aren’t any no-go zones – there is one area along Sukhumvit where Africans hang out selling fake drugs and other scams, and the police move in about every three months and shake them down, and deport any illegals – you can call them racist all you want, and they will just agree with you – it becomes a moot argument real quick. It keeps the peace.

    As for slums, I will admit that certain homes just aren’t pretty, but there are far less homeless people here in Bangkok than back in the U.S., and most importantly, is the general mood Thai people have is that they seem happy or at least satisfied with there situation; you have to realize things are improving around here – standard of living is getting better – can’t say that about the working class in America though.

    Political turmoil is still ongoing considering they are still hanging to the stupidity that is democracy, and the scam of stacked elections, but they did rid themselves of the toxic politics of Thaksin and his bankster cronies who wanted to put the entire country into debt servitude much like they did to Greece, and Ireland. I was thinking the bankers were going to win, but the Thais braved it out, and ran them out of town and the country like a flock of gypsys. Yay for that.

    One more thing – China is building high seed rail to link the north to the south. Yay for that too.

    • Replies: @alma123
    Agreed. I live in BKK as well and in general people seem satisfied. On a recent trip to KL, Malaysia, which is filled with glitz and obviously wants to be a world-class city, I thought that Thailand seems to have no such aspirations for the cookie-cutter high rises filled with overpriced malls (though there are plenty here). Thai people mostly seem to want to be good Buddhists. As for safety, maybe they don't attack foreigners, but I walk for miles at ALL HOURS, DAILY, completely unmolested. I actually think they take me for a local. My Thai friends say they know lots of people with credit card debt, but how would that change with more Chinese-funded development? On a recent trip to Laos we saw the Chinese construction of the railway in action. Lots of temporary housing for imported Chinese labor, they even bring in much of their own food, so where's the benefit to the locals? My guides there said the Chinese probably paid off local politicians to get the right to build. Maybe in the future there will be a benefit to the Lao people, who will leave their villages after they discover the array of junk food and makeup available in the cities and have their local lifestyle and traditions die out. It's their choice, of course, but who's telling them the crappy products won't make them happy in the long run?
  • CCP killed 10s of millions, burned books in the Cult Revolt, and backed the Khmer Rouge.

    Since Mao died, mainland China has done better for the same reason that Taiwan, Singapore, Hong Kong, and Chinese minorities in SE Asia have done well. Chinese are smarter and have Confucian culture moderated by modernity.

    If China had tons of Indonesian native morons as the majority, it’d be a mess EVEN IF ruled by CCP.

    • Replies: @last straw

    CCP killed 10s of millions, burned books in the Cult Revolt, and backed the Khmer Rouge.
     
    Tens of millions Chinese (maybe 5% of the population) died of starvation in a famine that was started by a combination of Mao's crazy economic and agricultural policies and natural disasters, and then exacerbated by the subsequent mismanagement by Mao's one-man rule government at the time. But it was not murder.

    The U.S., U.K., and the West also backed Khmer Rouge.

  • Convinced I was destined to become an oil painter, I attended art school, and during my art fag days, I honed in on art museums, wherever I went. As a writer, however, I quickly realized I needed to scrutinize the streets, for even without people, a community reveals much about itself through its houses, shops,...
  • @jeff stryker
    Its less expensive. A little safer. The poverty is not quite as horrendous.

    Negros is fairly wealthy because of sugarcane. People are not as atrociously poor there.

    On the other hand, Manila Filipinos are generally much more witty and cosmopolitan.

    ymous

    I’m Malay so let me settle the dispute once and for all

    1)Economically Chinese have the highest median income ,followed by Indian and Malay.By this logic,the IQ are 108,100 and 92 respectively.Chinese dominate about 80%-90% of industry while Indian taking the remaining.How about the Malays you may ask well we got none.Instead our ownership is usually through government.Worth mentioning that among the 3,even if Indian have higher median income than Malay, they seem to have highest inequality.

    2)In every industry,Chinese seem to come out on top with the exception of some industries such as airline,telecom,restaurant,textile where Indian seem to do better than Chinese.Why you may ask,I don’t know as well.However in place like ownership of private universities ,Indian do pretty well with owning 30%-40% private universities while Chinese the rest. Chinese strongest industry dominance is finance and real estate.

    3)Disparity in crime in Malaysia don’t exist like you see in US or UK where one group is dominant .However Tamils are indeed stereotyped as criminals at the same time as lawyers even despite having a median income higher than Malays.I know this might see weird as no other group is simultaneously stereotyped as both high income and criminals but this is what you get when caste is practised for thousands of years.Average Sikhs,Mamaks are as wealthy if not wealthier than average Chinese. Every Mamak that I meet in school or college is wealthy and every sikhs have either lawyer or doctor parents.Primarily because Mamaks and Sikhs in Malaysia are merchant caste. I don’t know what average Mamak IQ are but they have to be near Chinese level as well because the one that I know from school are straight A students.

  • @EastKekistani
    Groid, when commies & commie-relatare gone I will also be gone soon. We will build a new NE Asia (and colonies in FUBAR shitholes) that will have the greatest features of both the current NE Asia and pre-groid, pre-mestizo Germanic world. That's it. Just like Singapore it will be welcoming and nice...and anti-groid. We will be having fun while you groids will be left out.

    East you r a white fool trying to divide and conquer like the european scum you are no, chinese would write the crap you write about minorities

  • @Anonmalayexp
    How did you like Cebu/Negros compared to Manila (the only place in Phils that I've been)?

    Its less expensive. A little safer. The poverty is not quite as horrendous.

    Negros is fairly wealthy because of sugarcane. People are not as atrociously poor there.

    On the other hand, Manila Filipinos are generally much more witty and cosmopolitan.

    • Replies: @Akmal Saddiq
    @jeff stryker @EastKekistani @Anonymous

    I'm Malay so let me settle the dispute once and for all

    1)Economically Chinese have the highest median income ,followed by Indian and Malay.By this logic,the IQ are 108,100 and 92 respectively.Chinese dominate about 80%-90% of industry while Indian taking the remaining.How about the Malays you may ask well we got none.Instead our ownership is usually through government.Worth mentioning that among the 3,even if Indian have higher median income than Malay, they seem to have highest inequality.

    2)In every industry,Chinese seem to come out on top with the exception of some industries such as airline,telecom,restaurant,textile where Indian seem to do better than Chinese.Why you may ask,I don't know as well.However in place like ownership of private universities ,Indian do pretty well with owning 30%-40% private universities while Chinese the rest. Chinese strongest industry dominance is finance and real estate.

    3)Disparity in crime in Malaysia don't exist like you see in US or UK where one group is dominant .However Tamils are indeed stereotyped as criminals at the same time as lawyers even despite having a median income higher than Malays.I know this might see weird as no other group is simultaneously stereotyped as both high income and criminals but this is what you get when caste is practised for thousands of years.Average Sikhs,Mamaks are as wealthy if not wealthier than average Chinese. Every Mamak that I meet in school or college is wealthy and every sikhs have either lawyer or doctor parents.Primarily because Mamaks and Sikhs in Malaysia are merchant caste. I don't know what average Mamak IQ are but they have to be near Chinese level as well because the one that I know from school are straight A students.

  • @jeff stryker
    RADICAL


    I lived in Cebu and Negros where the Chinese-Filipino population was fairly high and most of them sailed out of the Chinese harbor of Amoy.

    Ung, Go, Yu etc. are the big Chinese families in Cebu. I lived with some Go family members who built Robinson's the shopping mall. However, some Chinese took Spanish names or quasi-Spanish names like Aquino.

    You would think that there would be more Chinese up in Luzon because it is nearer to China but no, the old Spanish "Mestizo" families are more prevalent there (Although Manila has a Chinatown).

    But the Chinese in Cebu and Negros are long-settled.

    If you hold any kind of job in Cebu or Negros, you will spend more time around Chinese than Filipinos.

    How did you like Cebu/Negros compared to Manila (the only place in Phils that I’ve been)?

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
    Its less expensive. A little safer. The poverty is not quite as horrendous.

    Negros is fairly wealthy because of sugarcane. People are not as atrociously poor there.

    On the other hand, Manila Filipinos are generally much more witty and cosmopolitan.
  • Anon[160] • Disclaimer says:
    @EastKekistani
    Well, I think communism is a system only appropriate for groids. For poor people from good races such as white and NE Asian races on the other hand the solution is settler colonization of FUBAR shitholes, Antarctica and space. The poor peasants from China for example should go to Sub-Saharan Africa just like many older poor Chinese peasants who moved to shitholes in Southeast Asia. They will become rich in Africa and will make Africa a lot less fucked up.

    That’s just the problem with you mercantile yellows. You are like the greedy bastard Jews and English, who can’t see the world past dollar signs. Money is the only thing you care about.

    Africans are primitive people not evolved enough to be part of the modern world. Why the heck are you China people so hellbent on “developing” Africa? Certainly not for the benefit of the Africans. The Chinese are the most selfish people, altruism is not part of your character. You want to take all of Africa’s natural resources and turn Africa into your farmland because China is running out of farmland. The problem is: Africa is not yours to take.

    You are making the same mistakes as the white colonials two hundred years ago, at least we’ve learned from our mistakes and are mostly out of Africa now, except for that idiot “philanthropist” Bill Gates, who is still busy growing more Africans with his vitamins and vaccines, so these jungle people can invade Europe.

    Leave Africa to the Africans! These prehistoric primitive tribes cannot function in a modern world. They can only consume and reproduce, but have zero capacity to produce anything for the modern world. China will only make another huge mess out of Africa, like the white colonials two centuries ago. Except since the Chinese are even more soulless and mercenary, you will leave behind a much bigger mess, like turning Africa into a toxic, polluted hellhole twice the size of China. One China is bad enough for the world, we don’t need two, or three. Chinese like you need to stay in the shithole that you’ve created for yourselves called China, and stop fucking up the rest of the world with your greedy, soulless, mercantile ways.

  • @EastKekistani
    Of course we will get out at some point. A Brazilianized groid and mestizo society is too unsafe for my peace-loving and working people. That's it.

    We just need the fucking commies especially Xi out first.

    Your hatred of Xi just shows who you are: A corrupt China man who is on the run from the Chinese government, wanted for corruption in China so you can’t go back.

  • @Bliss

    They might get a taste of Natives or First Nations or whatever is PC to call those wild Mongolians up there. Northern Native Canadians scared me. They are a primitive, prehistoric, ruthless, savage race.........to be white up in Northern Canada is not a good thing
     
    What? You didn’t join Derbyshire’s “Arctic Alliance” yet? Bite your tongue and get with the program, expat.

    What’s likely to happen sometime in this century: Siberia, Alaska, Northern Canada and Vancouver will merge into Greater China while Southern Canada will merge with the U.S.

    BLISS

    China has no use for those places even if indigenous North Americans and Inuit have some distant link to Asia.

    Vancouver is one more border city and Chinese (Like other urban groups such as Hindus or Italians) are only interested in border cities which serve as trading partners/branch plant economies/NAFTA economies for the US.

  • @EastKekistani
    Well, I think communism is a system only appropriate for groids. For poor people from good races such as white and NE Asian races on the other hand the solution is settler colonization of FUBAR shitholes, Antarctica and space. The poor peasants from China for example should go to Sub-Saharan Africa just like many older poor Chinese peasants who moved to shitholes in Southeast Asia. They will become rich in Africa and will make Africa a lot less fucked up.

    Well, I think communism is a system only appropriate for groids.

    Wrong again, you dumb deluded dog torturer. Put down that opium pipe shoved into your mouth by the mercantile brits, open your frickin eyes and look around. What do you see? Rice-paddy asians, such as yourself, are the only race that has overwhelmingly embraced communism. Explain that away.

    • LOL: Truth
  • @jeff stryker
    406


    They might get a taste of Natives or First Nations or whatever is PC to call those wild Mongolians up there. Northern Native Canadians scared me. They are a primitive, prehistoric, ruthless, savage race. Not as well as organized at urban guerrilla warfare as Italians, Mestizo cartels, Sikhs or perhaps even blacks. But to be white up in Northern Canada is not a good thing if you are surrounded by Natives.

    Canadian aboriginals are crazier than Native Americans in the US.

    As for moving to Northern Canada why would they? Its a bunch of dangerous Mongolians called "Native" and not much of an economy. This is why you'll never meet an Indian or Chinese outside a major Canadian city.

    They might get a taste of Natives or First Nations or whatever is PC to call those wild Mongolians up there. Northern Native Canadians scared me. They are a primitive, prehistoric, ruthless, savage race………to be white up in Northern Canada is not a good thing

    What? You didn’t join Derbyshire’s “Arctic Alliance” yet? Bite your tongue and get with the program, expat.

    What’s likely to happen sometime in this century: Siberia, Alaska, Northern Canada and Vancouver will merge into Greater China while Southern Canada will merge with the U.S.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
    BLISS


    China has no use for those places even if indigenous North Americans and Inuit have some distant link to Asia.

    Vancouver is one more border city and Chinese (Like other urban groups such as Hindus or Italians) are only interested in border cities which serve as trading partners/branch plant economies/NAFTA economies for the US.
  • @EastKekistani
    You don't need to be corrupt to know that commies don't protect property rights of anyone. Two of my great-grandparents owned businesses and commie fuckers took the businesses and houses away after 1949.

    Anyway we will mostly leave at some point. Likely by 2050. Those who don't will regret it as the West becomes Brazil.

    Anyway we will mostly leave at some point. Likely by 2050.

    By 2050? Lol. That proves what was already suspected: you are nothing but a whiny fraud. What’s stopping you from moving to Singapore right now?

    Btw, since you hate southeast asians so much what makes you think you will like living in Singapore?

  • @EastKekistani
    Groid, when commies & commie-relatare gone I will also be gone soon. We will build a new NE Asia (and colonies in FUBAR shitholes) that will have the greatest features of both the current NE Asia and pre-groid, pre-mestizo Germanic world. That's it. Just like Singapore it will be welcoming and nice...and anti-groid. We will be having fun while you groids will be left out.

    That’s awesome, DMB.

    When do you think you’ll discover Vibrainium?

  • @Truth
    Oh, hey, you're only going to be here thirty more years, huh? The west must be HORRID!

    Groid, when commies & commie-relatare gone I will also be gone soon. We will build a new NE Asia (and colonies in FUBAR shitholes) that will have the greatest features of both the current NE Asia and pre-groid, pre-mestizo Germanic world. That’s it. Just like Singapore it will be welcoming and nice…and anti-groid. We will be having fun while you groids will be left out.

    • Replies: @Truth
    That's awesome, DMB.

    When do you think you'll discover Vibrainium?
    , @eastkekestaniisawhiteguy
    East you r a white fool trying to divide and conquer like the european scum you are no, chinese would write the crap you write about minorities
  • @EastKekistani
    You don't need to be corrupt to know that commies don't protect property rights of anyone. Two of my great-grandparents owned businesses and commie fuckers took the businesses and houses away after 1949.

    Anyway we will mostly leave at some point. Likely by 2050. Those who don't will regret it as the West becomes Brazil.

    Oh, hey, you’re only going to be here thirty more years, huh? The west must be HORRID!

    • Replies: @EastKekistani
    Groid, when commies & commie-relatare gone I will also be gone soon. We will build a new NE Asia (and colonies in FUBAR shitholes) that will have the greatest features of both the current NE Asia and pre-groid, pre-mestizo Germanic world. That's it. Just like Singapore it will be welcoming and nice...and anti-groid. We will be having fun while you groids will be left out.
  • @jeff stryker
    EAST


    Philippines and Thailand benefited, however. And Singapore. Communism is not a bad system for the poor and uneducated laborer, but not the ambitious or energetic.

    So all the entrepreneurial and energetic Chinese moved to Hong Kong, Taiwan or Philippines.

    Well, my great-grandparents did not get out before it was too late. 🙁

    When will we get our pre-1949 rice shops and furniture shop back?

  • @jeff stryker
    EAST


    Philippines and Thailand benefited, however. And Singapore. Communism is not a bad system for the poor and uneducated laborer, but not the ambitious or energetic.

    So all the entrepreneurial and energetic Chinese moved to Hong Kong, Taiwan or Philippines.

    Well, I think communism is a system only appropriate for groids. For poor people from good races such as white and NE Asian races on the other hand the solution is settler colonization of FUBAR shitholes, Antarctica and space. The poor peasants from China for example should go to Sub-Saharan Africa just like many older poor Chinese peasants who moved to shitholes in Southeast Asia. They will become rich in Africa and will make Africa a lot less fucked up.

    • Replies: @Bliss

    Well, I think communism is a system only appropriate for groids.
     
    Wrong again, you dumb deluded dog torturer. Put down that opium pipe shoved into your mouth by the mercantile brits, open your frickin eyes and look around. What do you see? Rice-paddy asians, such as yourself, are the only race that has overwhelmingly embraced communism. Explain that away.
    , @Anon
    That's just the problem with you mercantile yellows. You are like the greedy bastard Jews and English, who can't see the world past dollar signs. Money is the only thing you care about.

    Africans are primitive people not evolved enough to be part of the modern world. Why the heck are you China people so hellbent on "developing" Africa? Certainly not for the benefit of the Africans. The Chinese are the most selfish people, altruism is not part of your character. You want to take all of Africa's natural resources and turn Africa into your farmland because China is running out of farmland. The problem is: Africa is not yours to take.

    You are making the same mistakes as the white colonials two hundred years ago, at least we've learned from our mistakes and are mostly out of Africa now, except for that idiot "philanthropist" Bill Gates, who is still busy growing more Africans with his vitamins and vaccines, so these jungle people can invade Europe.

    Leave Africa to the Africans! These prehistoric primitive tribes cannot function in a modern world. They can only consume and reproduce, but have zero capacity to produce anything for the modern world. China will only make another huge mess out of Africa, like the white colonials two centuries ago. Except since the Chinese are even more soulless and mercenary, you will leave behind a much bigger mess, like turning Africa into a toxic, polluted hellhole twice the size of China. One China is bad enough for the world, we don't need two, or three. Chinese like you need to stay in the shithole that you've created for yourselves called China, and stop fucking up the rest of the world with your greedy, soulless, mercantile ways.
  • @EastKekistani
    You don't need to be corrupt to know that commies don't protect property rights of anyone. Two of my great-grandparents owned businesses and commie fuckers took the businesses and houses away after 1949.

    Anyway we will mostly leave at some point. Likely by 2050. Those who don't will regret it as the West becomes Brazil.

    EAST

    Philippines and Thailand benefited, however. And Singapore. Communism is not a bad system for the poor and uneducated laborer, but not the ambitious or energetic.

    So all the entrepreneurial and energetic Chinese moved to Hong Kong, Taiwan or Philippines.

    • Replies: @EastKekistani
    Well, I think communism is a system only appropriate for groids. For poor people from good races such as white and NE Asian races on the other hand the solution is settler colonization of FUBAR shitholes, Antarctica and space. The poor peasants from China for example should go to Sub-Saharan Africa just like many older poor Chinese peasants who moved to shitholes in Southeast Asia. They will become rich in Africa and will make Africa a lot less fucked up.
    , @EastKekistani
    Well, my great-grandparents did not get out before it was too late. :-(

    When will we get our pre-1949 rice shops and furniture shop back?
  • @anon

    I’m likely to relocate to Singapore at some point.
     
    What's stopping ya? GTFO. And bring the rest of your 4 million co-ethnics with you. Sick of all y'all scammers and parasites living in this country and sending your kids to our public schools on tourist visas! No one likes to live next door to a Chinaman, or an Indian filth, for that matter. And for Christ's sake stop talking with your mouth full and stop chewing with your mouth open.

    Of course we will get out at some point. A Brazilianized groid and mestizo society is too unsafe for my peace-loving and working people. That’s it.

    We just need the fucking commies especially Xi out first.

    • Replies: @Anon
    Your hatred of Xi just shows who you are: A corrupt China man who is on the run from the Chinese government, wanted for corruption in China so you can't go back.
  • @anon
    I'm thinking the reason you don't like the Chinese commie government is because you are either a corrupt government official/businessman or the son of one, emigrated with all your ill gotten gains before you get thrown in jail, like 90% of China people who emigrated. Only the rich can afford to emigrate in China, and the country is so corrupt, the only way you could get rich is by being corrupt, either by taking massive graft, or giving it. Or maybe you are one of the remaining 10% who are illegals or fake asylees claiming to be persecuted because you are Christian, or political dissident...all fake, of course.

    America is becoming increasingly unpleasant to live in because of corrupt liars like you and your countrymen. Please go back to Asia.

    You don’t need to be corrupt to know that commies don’t protect property rights of anyone. Two of my great-grandparents owned businesses and commie fuckers took the businesses and houses away after 1949.

    Anyway we will mostly leave at some point. Likely by 2050. Those who don’t will regret it as the West becomes Brazil.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
    EAST


    Philippines and Thailand benefited, however. And Singapore. Communism is not a bad system for the poor and uneducated laborer, but not the ambitious or energetic.

    So all the entrepreneurial and energetic Chinese moved to Hong Kong, Taiwan or Philippines.
    , @Truth
    Oh, hey, you're only going to be here thirty more years, huh? The west must be HORRID!
    , @Bliss

    Anyway we will mostly leave at some point. Likely by 2050.
     
    By 2050? Lol. That proves what was already suspected: you are nothing but a whiny fraud. What’s stopping you from moving to Singapore right now?

    Btw, since you hate southeast asians so much what makes you think you will like living in Singapore?
  • anon[414] • Disclaimer says:
    @EastKekistani
    Well, we will get out anyway as the West becomes absurdly groidified and mestizoized.

    You should look up the amount of Japan-born and South Korea-born residents in America. They aren't increasing. When commies and other authoritarian freaks get ousted in China and North Korea why shall NE Asian people still have any reason to move elsewhere other than for business and tourism? After all we have very low TFR.

    We have built plenty of places and will build more, including in terminally FUBAR places such as Sub-Saharan Africa. A lot of industries in Southeast Asia exist at all because of us.

    I'm likely to relocate to Singapore at some point. No groids. No mestizos. No possibility of getting caught in some chimpout.

    I’m thinking the reason you don’t like the Chinese commie government is because you are either a corrupt government official/businessman or the son of one, emigrated with all your ill gotten gains before you get thrown in jail, like 90% of China people who emigrated. Only the rich can afford to emigrate in China, and the country is so corrupt, the only way you could get rich is by being corrupt, either by taking massive graft, or giving it. Or maybe you are one of the remaining 10% who are illegals or fake asylees claiming to be persecuted because you are Christian, or political dissident…all fake, of course.

    America is becoming increasingly unpleasant to live in because of corrupt liars like you and your countrymen. Please go back to Asia.

    • Replies: @EastKekistani
    You don't need to be corrupt to know that commies don't protect property rights of anyone. Two of my great-grandparents owned businesses and commie fuckers took the businesses and houses away after 1949.

    Anyway we will mostly leave at some point. Likely by 2050. Those who don't will regret it as the West becomes Brazil.

  • @BengaliCanadianDude
    Then how is Malaysia far superior to China? Don't say it's not btw lol because it is.

    Singapore is only 730 km sq. Should be compared with cities, not countries

    The GDP of Singapore is higher than that of Malaysia.

  • @anon

    I’m likely to relocate to Singapore at some point.
     
    What's stopping ya? GTFO. And bring the rest of your 4 million co-ethnics with you. Sick of all y'all scammers and parasites living in this country and sending your kids to our public schools on tourist visas! No one likes to live next door to a Chinaman, or an Indian filth, for that matter. And for Christ's sake stop talking with your mouth full and stop chewing with your mouth open.

    398

    Really? Are you more likely to be injured in a racial attack or robbed in Chinatown or Detroit or a barrio?

    If you had to choose to walk through an Indian-American neighborhood like Edison, New Jersey at night or walk through the black ghetto which would you choose?

    Should I tell you that you were parachuting out of a plane and could chose to land in South Chicago projects or Hong Kong, which would you choose to land? If you had to live for a month around Indians in Silicone Valley or blacks in Detroit, which would you choose.

    One smells bad and perhaps you would not want to bed a female of their populace…The other would probably kill or seriously injure you before a month was out.

  • @anon
    Dude, when was the last time you were in the US? Come to the West Coast or Northeast, there ain't nothing but Asians as far as the eyes could see. Seattle-Bellevue, SF-Oakland and LA are practically Chinese colonies. Almost all the schools in these areas are now 50%-90% Asian, with an even split between East and South Asians.

    398

    Then the schools in LA must be much safer than were they were Hispanic. And I have not spent much time on the West Coast since 1999 but it seemed Latino to me when I was there back then. And during one business trip to San Fernando for a single week in 2007 I was struck by how Mexican the place was. There some homeless whites, addicts obviously, and a single black guy who followed me a few paces calling me names as I boarded a bus. But no Asians. Of course I’ve never been to Silicone Valley.

    It is hard to believe that Asians could possible demographically replace Hispanics or even whites. They have what? Two children per couple? They’re more barren than whites.

  • anon[398] • Disclaimer says:
    @EastKekistani
    Well, we will get out anyway as the West becomes absurdly groidified and mestizoized.

    You should look up the amount of Japan-born and South Korea-born residents in America. They aren't increasing. When commies and other authoritarian freaks get ousted in China and North Korea why shall NE Asian people still have any reason to move elsewhere other than for business and tourism? After all we have very low TFR.

    We have built plenty of places and will build more, including in terminally FUBAR places such as Sub-Saharan Africa. A lot of industries in Southeast Asia exist at all because of us.

    I'm likely to relocate to Singapore at some point. No groids. No mestizos. No possibility of getting caught in some chimpout.

    I’m likely to relocate to Singapore at some point.

    What’s stopping ya? GTFO. And bring the rest of your 4 million co-ethnics with you. Sick of all y’all scammers and parasites living in this country and sending your kids to our public schools on tourist visas! No one likes to live next door to a Chinaman, or an Indian filth, for that matter. And for Christ’s sake stop talking with your mouth full and stop chewing with your mouth open.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
    398


    Really? Are you more likely to be injured in a racial attack or robbed in Chinatown or Detroit or a barrio?

    If you had to choose to walk through an Indian-American neighborhood like Edison, New Jersey at night or walk through the black ghetto which would you choose?

    Should I tell you that you were parachuting out of a plane and could chose to land in South Chicago projects or Hong Kong, which would you choose to land? If you had to live for a month around Indians in Silicone Valley or blacks in Detroit, which would you choose.

    One smells bad and perhaps you would not want to bed a female of their populace...The other would probably kill or seriously injure you before a month was out.
    , @EastKekistani
    Of course we will get out at some point. A Brazilianized groid and mestizo society is too unsafe for my peace-loving and working people. That's it.

    We just need the fucking commies especially Xi out first.

  • anon[398] • Disclaimer says:
    @jeff stryker
    EAST


    Japanese have not wanted to immigrate to the US in 30, 40 years. South Koreans don't want to immigrate to the US.

    Nobody wants to immigrate to the US except people from the worst third world countries on the planet and a few Eastern European trophy wives like Donald Trump's.

    California is so completely Mestizo that other races are simply moving away and Japanese-owned businesses and banks have long been sold and are now decaying monuments to a time when California was the height of civilization before it became Guatemala part 2.

    The Korean stores burned down by rioting blacks in the 1992 LA riots were never rebuilt. And probably never will be.

    More and more of the US resembles Detroit or Baltimore. Rusty ghost towns. With the economy gravitating to Asia there is no purpose in immigrating to America.

    Dude, when was the last time you were in the US? Come to the West Coast or Northeast, there ain’t nothing but Asians as far as the eyes could see. Seattle-Bellevue, SF-Oakland and LA are practically Chinese colonies. Almost all the schools in these areas are now 50%-90% Asian, with an even split between East and South Asians.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
    398


    Then the schools in LA must be much safer than were they were Hispanic. And I have not spent much time on the West Coast since 1999 but it seemed Latino to me when I was there back then. And during one business trip to San Fernando for a single week in 2007 I was struck by how Mexican the place was. There some homeless whites, addicts obviously, and a single black guy who followed me a few paces calling me names as I boarded a bus. But no Asians. Of course I've never been to Silicone Valley.

    It is hard to believe that Asians could possible demographically replace Hispanics or even whites. They have what? Two children per couple? They're more barren than whites.
  • @jeff stryker
    481


    I know that, it was a bad joke. Hakka would be a subgroup of Han Chinese. The Overseas Chinese Business Community in Southeast Asia is from the Fujian province for the most part.

    Fujian, Cantonese, Hakka, Shanghainese, Pekingese…all are han, get a clue.

  • @jeff stryker
    469


    Right, I am satisfied to live elsewhere in Asia. On the other hand, if I had to choose between living in Singapore and Flint or Detroit I would opt for Singapore.

    l

    iving in Singapore and Flint or Detroit

    I mean…that is hardly a good way to juxtapose the cities with each other lol it’s such an obvious answer

  • @Anonymous

    Singapore is a country that probably takes a million dollars and 10 years to immigrate to. From I have heard of Singapore’s immigration policy, random spot-checks for work visas and deportations are fairly common.
     
    A permanent resident (PR) of Singapore can apply for citizenship after 2 years. It can take as little as 1 year to get PR, so potentially citizenship within 3 years. It all depends on skills/investment/marriage/working.

    You cannot just show up in Singapore with your last $3000 and suddenly get a passport.
     
    Why the hell would you want to? Singapore citizenship is for rich people only. Everyone else will be stuck on the treadmill under worse conditions than most Europeans are used to.

    469

    Right, I am satisfied to live elsewhere in Asia. On the other hand, if I had to choose between living in Singapore and Flint or Detroit I would opt for Singapore.

    • Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude
    l

    iving in Singapore and Flint or Detroit
     
    I mean...that is hardly a good way to juxtapose the cities with each other lol it's such an obvious answer
  • @Anonymous

    I’m likely to relocate to Singapore at some point. No groids. No mestizos. No possibility of getting caught in some chimpout.
     
    Don't you find it a bit inhumane? There's something very sterile and dictatorial about Singapore that gives me the creeps.

    469

    Sterility won’t kill you. Live for a year in the US Southwest around Mestizos. Or any major US city where sudden outbursts of violence turn deadly.

    Living in the woods like Jason in FRIDAY THE 13th because it is the only safe and affordable place in America is also creepy.

  • Anonymous[469] • Disclaimer says:
    @EastKekistani
    Well, we will get out anyway as the West becomes absurdly groidified and mestizoized.

    You should look up the amount of Japan-born and South Korea-born residents in America. They aren't increasing. When commies and other authoritarian freaks get ousted in China and North Korea why shall NE Asian people still have any reason to move elsewhere other than for business and tourism? After all we have very low TFR.

    We have built plenty of places and will build more, including in terminally FUBAR places such as Sub-Saharan Africa. A lot of industries in Southeast Asia exist at all because of us.

    I'm likely to relocate to Singapore at some point. No groids. No mestizos. No possibility of getting caught in some chimpout.

    I’m likely to relocate to Singapore at some point. No groids. No mestizos. No possibility of getting caught in some chimpout.

    Don’t you find it a bit inhumane? There’s something very sterile and dictatorial about Singapore that gives me the creeps.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
    469


    Sterility won't kill you. Live for a year in the US Southwest around Mestizos. Or any major US city where sudden outbursts of violence turn deadly.

    Living in the woods like Jason in FRIDAY THE 13th because it is the only safe and affordable place in America is also creepy.
  • Anonymous[469] • Disclaimer says:
    @jeff stryker
    TRUTH


    East's citizenship is vague but it is is MUCH more difficult to immigrate to other countries than most Americans believe it is.

    I've been living overseas for most of my life and nobody from some sterile developed country will hand out a passport because your neighborhood became Spanish-speaking.

    Singapore is a country that probably takes a million dollars and 10 years to immigrate to. From I have heard of Singapore's immigration policy, random spot-checks for work visas and deportations are fairly common.

    You cannot just show up in Singapore with your last $3000 and suddenly get a passport.

    If it were that easy to move to other countries, millions of Americans would move to Canada.

    Singapore is a country that probably takes a million dollars and 10 years to immigrate to. From I have heard of Singapore’s immigration policy, random spot-checks for work visas and deportations are fairly common.

    A permanent resident (PR) of Singapore can apply for citizenship after 2 years. It can take as little as 1 year to get PR, so potentially citizenship within 3 years. It all depends on skills/investment/marriage/working.

    You cannot just show up in Singapore with your last $3000 and suddenly get a passport.

    Why the hell would you want to? Singapore citizenship is for rich people only. Everyone else will be stuck on the treadmill under worse conditions than most Europeans are used to.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
    469


    Right, I am satisfied to live elsewhere in Asia. On the other hand, if I had to choose between living in Singapore and Flint or Detroit I would opt for Singapore.
  • @BengaliCanadianDude
    Singapore is basically a city. China is capitalist in terms of economy no? Taiwan is good.

    China is still where all CHinese live, it is more accurate

    China has been under commie rule since 1949. The economy didn’t become reasonably free until at least 1978. Even right now significant commie influence in the economy exist.

    I do agree that Taiwan which is predominantly Hakka and Fujianese can not accurately represent Chinese people. So I guess time will tell the truth.

  • @EastKekistani
    Are you aware of a shitty ideology known as Communism? Do you remember that Taiwan and Singapore are Chinese?

    Singapore is basically a city. China is capitalist in terms of economy no? Taiwan is good.

    China is still where all CHinese live, it is more accurate

    • Replies: @EastKekistani
    China has been under commie rule since 1949. The economy didn't become reasonably free until at least 1978. Even right now significant commie influence in the economy exist.

    I do agree that Taiwan which is predominantly Hakka and Fujianese can not accurately represent Chinese people. So I guess time will tell the truth.
  • @Truth


    I’m likely to relocate to Singapore at some point.
     
    Preferably within the next 7 days.

    TRUTH

    East’s citizenship is vague but it is is MUCH more difficult to immigrate to other countries than most Americans believe it is.

    I’ve been living overseas for most of my life and nobody from some sterile developed country will hand out a passport because your neighborhood became Spanish-speaking.

    Singapore is a country that probably takes a million dollars and 10 years to immigrate to. From I have heard of Singapore’s immigration policy, random spot-checks for work visas and deportations are fairly common.

    You cannot just show up in Singapore with your last $3000 and suddenly get a passport.

    If it were that easy to move to other countries, millions of Americans would move to Canada.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    Singapore is a country that probably takes a million dollars and 10 years to immigrate to. From I have heard of Singapore’s immigration policy, random spot-checks for work visas and deportations are fairly common.
     
    A permanent resident (PR) of Singapore can apply for citizenship after 2 years. It can take as little as 1 year to get PR, so potentially citizenship within 3 years. It all depends on skills/investment/marriage/working.

    You cannot just show up in Singapore with your last $3000 and suddenly get a passport.
     
    Why the hell would you want to? Singapore citizenship is for rich people only. Everyone else will be stuck on the treadmill under worse conditions than most Europeans are used to.
  • @Truth

    so many white men, aware that they will never have a decent job and live at home aged 30, simply watch naked Jewish men “Schtupping the Shiksas” all day on their computer in their basement in porn videos.
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLZ56s9kJ8k

    TRUTH

    1985 and the lifestyle of Candy and Pryor had as minor-league baseball players screwing and brawling and boozing their way through life while still managing to make house payments and paying bills as thirty-somethings would seem impossible today.

    If Skip and Harry had cut out of New York for LA today instead of 1980 in STIR CRAZY they would have been bottoming in gay porn loops and homeless in California within two weeks of arriving there.

    People forget how prosperous the 1980’s and 1990’s were.

  • @jeff stryker
    EAST


    I think you are referring to Anglo-Saxons in the US. And that is a broad definition. Also, the Anglo elite (Which is shrinking) are not intermarrying with black street thugs or Mexican homeboys. Interracial marriage seems to go hand in hand with a shrinking middle-class as so many white men, aware that they will never have a decent job and live at home aged 30, simply watch naked Jewish men "Schtupping the Shiksas" all day on their computer in their basement in porn videos.

    But the white elite will continue to marry along class lines. Sometimes educated whites will marry educated Asians. Sure. But very few wealthy Asians or White Americans will allow their daughters to marry poor blacks or Mexicans. And their daughters or sons will adhere to this for fear of losing the family fortune they'll inherit.

    As for respecting the Anglo world, Chinese seemed to like Hong Kong and Singapore. Lee Kwan Yew got his law degree in England. So obviously some aspects of European culture appeal to Chinese.

    Of course whites found the compass, gunpowder and opium appealing as well.

    so many white men, aware that they will never have a decent job and live at home aged 30, simply watch naked Jewish men “Schtupping the Shiksas” all day on their computer in their basement in porn videos.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
    TRUTH


    1985 and the lifestyle of Candy and Pryor had as minor-league baseball players screwing and brawling and boozing their way through life while still managing to make house payments and paying bills as thirty-somethings would seem impossible today.

    If Skip and Harry had cut out of New York for LA today instead of 1980 in STIR CRAZY they would have been bottoming in gay porn loops and homeless in California within two weeks of arriving there.

    People forget how prosperous the 1980's and 1990's were.
  • @EastKekistani
    Right. Also as maids and prostitutes. Maybe some less ugly Filipinas should be concubines according to what ancient Chinese meant by "concubine". I won't mind taking a Filipina (or Cambodian, Laotian etc) concubine if she is sufficiently cheap to maintain, is not absurdly ugly and provides sufficiently good services.

    Of course any mixed race children should not be allowed to join the NE Asian race.

    I won’t mind taking a Filipina (or Cambodian, Laotian etc) concubine if she is sufficiently cheap to maintain, is not absurdly ugly and provides sufficiently good services.

    Take my advice here, DMB; lose your virginity first, just to see if you actually enjoy sex. If not you can just just spend your money on a new PlayStation controller and that Dr. Spock uniform, ears and phaser you have been eyeing jealously for years now.

  • @EastKekistani
    Well, we will get out anyway as the West becomes absurdly groidified and mestizoized.

    You should look up the amount of Japan-born and South Korea-born residents in America. They aren't increasing. When commies and other authoritarian freaks get ousted in China and North Korea why shall NE Asian people still have any reason to move elsewhere other than for business and tourism? After all we have very low TFR.

    We have built plenty of places and will build more, including in terminally FUBAR places such as Sub-Saharan Africa. A lot of industries in Southeast Asia exist at all because of us.

    I'm likely to relocate to Singapore at some point. No groids. No mestizos. No possibility of getting caught in some chimpout.

    I’m likely to relocate to Singapore at some point.

    Preferably within the next 7 days.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
    TRUTH


    East's citizenship is vague but it is is MUCH more difficult to immigrate to other countries than most Americans believe it is.

    I've been living overseas for most of my life and nobody from some sterile developed country will hand out a passport because your neighborhood became Spanish-speaking.

    Singapore is a country that probably takes a million dollars and 10 years to immigrate to. From I have heard of Singapore's immigration policy, random spot-checks for work visas and deportations are fairly common.

    You cannot just show up in Singapore with your last $3000 and suddenly get a passport.

    If it were that easy to move to other countries, millions of Americans would move to Canada.
  • @EastKekistani
    Right. Also as maids and prostitutes. Maybe some less ugly Filipinas should be concubines according to what ancient Chinese meant by "concubine". I won't mind taking a Filipina (or Cambodian, Laotian etc) concubine if she is sufficiently cheap to maintain, is not absurdly ugly and provides sufficiently good services.

    Of course any mixed race children should not be allowed to join the NE Asian race.

    EAST

    This happened frequently in the Philippines. But more often with Spanish than with Chinese.

  • @EastKekistani
    Yeah. Here we go. Due to invasion of the Anglo world by Negro and mestizo subhumans and severe decline of racial hygiene among Anglos I'm from probably the last generation of ethnic Chinese who still respect the Anglo world.

    I just sincerely hope that in the future the word "Anglo" won't be used to refer to English-speaking mulattos and part mestizos. The word "Hispanic" which should have been used to refer to glorious white Spanish conquerors is now used for the conquered. Hope it won't be repeated..

    EAST

    I think you are referring to Anglo-Saxons in the US. And that is a broad definition. Also, the Anglo elite (Which is shrinking) are not intermarrying with black street thugs or Mexican homeboys. Interracial marriage seems to go hand in hand with a shrinking middle-class as so many white men, aware that they will never have a decent job and live at home aged 30, simply watch naked Jewish men “Schtupping the Shiksas” all day on their computer in their basement in porn videos.

    But the white elite will continue to marry along class lines. Sometimes educated whites will marry educated Asians. Sure. But very few wealthy Asians or White Americans will allow their daughters to marry poor blacks or Mexicans. And their daughters or sons will adhere to this for fear of losing the family fortune they’ll inherit.

    As for respecting the Anglo world, Chinese seemed to like Hong Kong and Singapore. Lee Kwan Yew got his law degree in England. So obviously some aspects of European culture appeal to Chinese.

    Of course whites found the compass, gunpowder and opium appealing as well.

    • Replies: @Truth

    so many white men, aware that they will never have a decent job and live at home aged 30, simply watch naked Jewish men “Schtupping the Shiksas” all day on their computer in their basement in porn videos.
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLZ56s9kJ8k
  • @jeff stryker
    EAST


    I think that already happened in Los Angeles.

    Yeah. Here we go. Due to invasion of the Anglo world by Negro and mestizo subhumans and severe decline of racial hygiene among Anglos I’m from probably the last generation of ethnic Chinese who still respect the Anglo world.

    I just sincerely hope that in the future the word “Anglo” won’t be used to refer to English-speaking mulattos and part mestizos. The word “Hispanic” which should have been used to refer to glorious white Spanish conquerors is now used for the conquered. Hope it won’t be repeated..

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
    EAST


    I think you are referring to Anglo-Saxons in the US. And that is a broad definition. Also, the Anglo elite (Which is shrinking) are not intermarrying with black street thugs or Mexican homeboys. Interracial marriage seems to go hand in hand with a shrinking middle-class as so many white men, aware that they will never have a decent job and live at home aged 30, simply watch naked Jewish men "Schtupping the Shiksas" all day on their computer in their basement in porn videos.

    But the white elite will continue to marry along class lines. Sometimes educated whites will marry educated Asians. Sure. But very few wealthy Asians or White Americans will allow their daughters to marry poor blacks or Mexicans. And their daughters or sons will adhere to this for fear of losing the family fortune they'll inherit.

    As for respecting the Anglo world, Chinese seemed to like Hong Kong and Singapore. Lee Kwan Yew got his law degree in England. So obviously some aspects of European culture appeal to Chinese.

    Of course whites found the compass, gunpowder and opium appealing as well.

  • @jeff stryker
    EAST


    Mass consumer base. Poor and uneducated people produce more poor and uneducated people quickly. That means Chinese have cheap workers and a vast population to buy things. So for them it is a good gig.

    Right. Also as maids and prostitutes. Maybe some less ugly Filipinas should be concubines according to what ancient Chinese meant by “concubine”. I won’t mind taking a Filipina (or Cambodian, Laotian etc) concubine if she is sufficiently cheap to maintain, is not absurdly ugly and provides sufficiently good services.

    Of course any mixed race children should not be allowed to join the NE Asian race.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
    EAST


    This happened frequently in the Philippines. But more often with Spanish than with Chinese.
    , @Truth

    I won’t mind taking a Filipina (or Cambodian, Laotian etc) concubine if she is sufficiently cheap to maintain, is not absurdly ugly and provides sufficiently good services.
     
    Take my advice here, DMB; lose your virginity first, just to see if you actually enjoy sex. If not you can just just spend your money on a new PlayStation controller and that Dr. Spock uniform, ears and phaser you have been eyeing jealously for years now.
  • @EastKekistani
    Yep. A better question is...what is the Philippines good for?

    EAST

    Mass consumer base. Poor and uneducated people produce more poor and uneducated people quickly. That means Chinese have cheap workers and a vast population to buy things. So for them it is a good gig.

    • Replies: @EastKekistani
    Right. Also as maids and prostitutes. Maybe some less ugly Filipinas should be concubines according to what ancient Chinese meant by "concubine". I won't mind taking a Filipina (or Cambodian, Laotian etc) concubine if she is sufficiently cheap to maintain, is not absurdly ugly and provides sufficiently good services.

    Of course any mixed race children should not be allowed to join the NE Asian race.

  • @EastKekistani
    Yeah. When I say "we will pull out" I actually mean it and know very well that if there is no WN rule such an evacuation is harmful to any society we are currently in. Like us or hate us we can't stand the increasingly high pile of mestizo & groid bullshit. TNB destroys societies.

    EAST

    I think that already happened in Los Angeles.

    • Replies: @EastKekistani
    Yeah. Here we go. Due to invasion of the Anglo world by Negro and mestizo subhumans and severe decline of racial hygiene among Anglos I'm from probably the last generation of ethnic Chinese who still respect the Anglo world.

    I just sincerely hope that in the future the word "Anglo" won't be used to refer to English-speaking mulattos and part mestizos. The word "Hispanic" which should have been used to refer to glorious white Spanish conquerors is now used for the conquered. Hope it won't be repeated..

  • @jeff stryker
    EAST


    Chinese-Filipinos would argue (And I suspect Malaysian-Chinese as well) that the Philippines would have NO economy without Chinese. There would be no Manila stock index. This is probably true.

    Yep. A better question is…what is the Philippines good for?

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
    EAST


    Mass consumer base. Poor and uneducated people produce more poor and uneducated people quickly. That means Chinese have cheap workers and a vast population to buy things. So for them it is a good gig.

  • @jeff stryker
    EAST


    Japanese have not wanted to immigrate to the US in 30, 40 years. South Koreans don't want to immigrate to the US.

    Nobody wants to immigrate to the US except people from the worst third world countries on the planet and a few Eastern European trophy wives like Donald Trump's.

    California is so completely Mestizo that other races are simply moving away and Japanese-owned businesses and banks have long been sold and are now decaying monuments to a time when California was the height of civilization before it became Guatemala part 2.

    The Korean stores burned down by rioting blacks in the 1992 LA riots were never rebuilt. And probably never will be.

    More and more of the US resembles Detroit or Baltimore. Rusty ghost towns. With the economy gravitating to Asia there is no purpose in immigrating to America.

    Yeah. When I say “we will pull out” I actually mean it and know very well that if there is no WN rule such an evacuation is harmful to any society we are currently in. Like us or hate us we can’t stand the increasingly high pile of mestizo & groid bullshit. TNB destroys societies.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
    EAST


    I think that already happened in Los Angeles.
  • @BengaliCanadianDude

    Without this, how would be their standard of living
     
    LOL if the Chinaman is so smart, 97 % China would be better than Malaysia, yet it is inferior in terms of Quality of life, standards of living, HDI, respect for intellectual property, cleanliness of the air and the streets, gdp per capita, gdp per capitaPPP and etc.


    Aint shit

    Are you aware of a shitty ideology known as Communism? Do you remember that Taiwan and Singapore are Chinese?

    • Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude
    Singapore is basically a city. China is capitalist in terms of economy no? Taiwan is good.

    China is still where all CHinese live, it is more accurate
  • @EastKekistani
    Well, we will get out anyway as the West becomes absurdly groidified and mestizoized.

    You should look up the amount of Japan-born and South Korea-born residents in America. They aren't increasing. When commies and other authoritarian freaks get ousted in China and North Korea why shall NE Asian people still have any reason to move elsewhere other than for business and tourism? After all we have very low TFR.

    We have built plenty of places and will build more, including in terminally FUBAR places such as Sub-Saharan Africa. A lot of industries in Southeast Asia exist at all because of us.

    I'm likely to relocate to Singapore at some point. No groids. No mestizos. No possibility of getting caught in some chimpout.

    EAST

    Japanese have not wanted to immigrate to the US in 30, 40 years. South Koreans don’t want to immigrate to the US.

    Nobody wants to immigrate to the US except people from the worst third world countries on the planet and a few Eastern European trophy wives like Donald Trump’s.

    California is so completely Mestizo that other races are simply moving away and Japanese-owned businesses and banks have long been sold and are now decaying monuments to a time when California was the height of civilization before it became Guatemala part 2.

    The Korean stores burned down by rioting blacks in the 1992 LA riots were never rebuilt. And probably never will be.

    More and more of the US resembles Detroit or Baltimore. Rusty ghost towns. With the economy gravitating to Asia there is no purpose in immigrating to America.

    • Replies: @EastKekistani
    Yeah. When I say "we will pull out" I actually mean it and know very well that if there is no WN rule such an evacuation is harmful to any society we are currently in. Like us or hate us we can't stand the increasingly high pile of mestizo & groid bullshit. TNB destroys societies.
    , @anon
    Dude, when was the last time you were in the US? Come to the West Coast or Northeast, there ain't nothing but Asians as far as the eyes could see. Seattle-Bellevue, SF-Oakland and LA are practically Chinese colonies. Almost all the schools in these areas are now 50%-90% Asian, with an even split between East and South Asians.
  • @Anonymous

    Mahathir was right about these people. They are greedy and dishonest like the Jews.
     
    Mahathir is Mamak (muslim indian). When they see a Malay, they say Salaam Aleikum and pretend to be Malay. When they are on their own, they talk in Tamil and conspire to run their own monopolies. They are the real Jews of Malaysia.

    Curse the British for bringing the abominable Chinese to the Malay peninsular to ruin that beautiful little paradise.
     
    Curse from also for defending Malaya from Siam? Without this, the Malays in Malaysia would be just like the Malays in Songkhla, Yala and Patani.

    Curse them also for defending Malaysia from Indonesia? Without this, how would be their standard of living?

    The Malays never even tried to defend their homeland, and beggars can't be choosers.

    The greedy Chinese all need to be repatriated back to China
     
    Unfortunately for yourself, they're now moving over from China at record rates. The Malay government does lots of deals to let them buy condos and start businesses here. They pretend to hate the Chinese but it's really just a boogeyman to keep the Malays voting the right way.

    Indians are best at two things: bullshitting and sucking up to the white men.
     

    Indians are also filthy as pigs
     
    In this matter you are spot on.

    Without this, how would be their standard of living

    LOL if the Chinaman is so smart, 97 % China would be better than Malaysia, yet it is inferior in terms of Quality of life, standards of living, HDI, respect for intellectual property, cleanliness of the air and the streets, gdp per capita, gdp per capitaPPP and etc.

    Aint shit

    • Replies: @EastKekistani
    Are you aware of a shitty ideology known as Communism? Do you remember that Taiwan and Singapore are Chinese?
  • @EastKekistani
    We earn a lot of income on average almost all over the world including in America compared to natives and commit very few crimes compared to natives. Hence we aren't parasites. We are too rich to be Third World but not developed enough to be First World yet so we are Second World.

    However I do agree that diversity harms social unity and that we do have a serious corruption/low-trust problem. Hence we should (and will because we can't live with violence either due to a race war or due to a high concentration of groids & mestizos & other pests being what they are at all) separate and remain friendly.

    Moreover I know very well that the universe does not operate according to morality. Hence we the NE Asian people really need to start conquering FUBAR shitholes and remove all their subhuman natives. Sadly it is extremely hard to convince contemporary civilized people such as your and my races to start removing subhumans worldwide. Hence the world will remain plagued.

    EAST

    Chinese-Filipinos would argue (And I suspect Malaysian-Chinese as well) that the Philippines would have NO economy without Chinese. There would be no Manila stock index. This is probably true.

    • Replies: @EastKekistani
    Yep. A better question is...what is the Philippines good for?
  • @Anon
    Not quite the same. White South Africans (the Dutch Boers) arrived in Cape Town when the country was completely unoccupied. They cleared the land and turned it into beautiful farmlands, city and living space just like what the whites did in America. Then the British came and tried to take over from them, war ensued, the Boers moved inland and made the inland areas habitable too. Blacks arrived in SA after whites built SA, and soon after claimed it's their land and their continent and wanted the whites out. Whites built everything, blacks just take, take, take.

    Malaya was not vacant land when the Chinese arrived. It was already occupied by the Malays. Not to say that the Malays were the first there either, they probably killed off some other tribes when they arrived, like the Native Americans who killed off other tribes when they arrived, then bitched and moaned about whites taking over. The point is the Chinese didn't build Malacca, the Portugese did.

    Early Chinese arrivals helped build the railroad in America in the 1800s but the majority of Chinese in the US today arrived after 1965, and in large numbers from mainland China after 2000. The last group esp. came to feast on what the white men built, just like all other third world parasites.

    681

    Chinese had traded in Southeast Asia as bush peddlers for 1000 years but it was not until Spanish and English built cities like Manila and KL that the Chinese actually IMMIGRATED with their families.

    Chinese are traders and merchants, not colonial settler types. Only when the Spanish had been in Philippines for 300 years did the Chinese really immigrate to the Philippines in huge numbers, for example.

  • @Anon
    Uighurs speak Turkic, and use Arabic script as their written language. It is not a Chinese dialect. They are not han.

    481

    I know that, it was a bad joke. Hakka would be a subgroup of Han Chinese. The Overseas Chinese Business Community in Southeast Asia is from the Fujian province for the most part.

    • Replies: @anon
    Fujian, Cantonese, Hakka, Shanghainese, Pekingese...all are han, get a clue.
  • @Anon
    Not quite the same. White South Africans (the Dutch Boers) arrived in Cape Town when the country was completely unoccupied. They cleared the land and turned it into beautiful farmlands, city and living space just like what the whites did in America. Then the British came and tried to take over from them, war ensued, the Boers moved inland and made the inland areas habitable too. Blacks arrived in SA after whites built SA, and soon after claimed it's their land and their continent and wanted the whites out. Whites built everything, blacks just take, take, take.

    Malaya was not vacant land when the Chinese arrived. It was already occupied by the Malays. Not to say that the Malays were the first there either, they probably killed off some other tribes when they arrived, like the Native Americans who killed off other tribes when they arrived, then bitched and moaned about whites taking over. The point is the Chinese didn't build Malacca, the Portugese did.

    Early Chinese arrivals helped build the railroad in America in the 1800s but the majority of Chinese in the US today arrived after 1965, and in large numbers from mainland China after 2000. The last group esp. came to feast on what the white men built, just like all other third world parasites.

    We earn a lot of income on average almost all over the world including in America compared to natives and commit very few crimes compared to natives. Hence we aren’t parasites. We are too rich to be Third World but not developed enough to be First World yet so we are Second World.

    However I do agree that diversity harms social unity and that we do have a serious corruption/low-trust problem. Hence we should (and will because we can’t live with violence either due to a race war or due to a high concentration of groids & mestizos & other pests being what they are at all) separate and remain friendly.

    Moreover I know very well that the universe does not operate according to morality. Hence we the NE Asian people really need to start conquering FUBAR shitholes and remove all their subhuman natives. Sadly it is extremely hard to convince contemporary civilized people such as your and my races to start removing subhumans worldwide. Hence the world will remain plagued.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
    EAST


    Chinese-Filipinos would argue (And I suspect Malaysian-Chinese as well) that the Philippines would have NO economy without Chinese. There would be no Manila stock index. This is probably true.

  • @Anon
    Not quite the same. White South Africans (the Dutch Boers) arrived in Cape Town when the country was completely unoccupied. They cleared the land and turned it into beautiful farmlands, city and living space just like what the whites did in America. Then the British came and tried to take over from them, war ensued, the Boers moved inland and made the inland areas habitable too. Blacks arrived in SA after whites built SA, and soon after claimed it's their land and their continent and wanted the whites out. Whites built everything, blacks just take, take, take.

    Malaya was not vacant land when the Chinese arrived. It was already occupied by the Malays. Not to say that the Malays were the first there either, they probably killed off some other tribes when they arrived, like the Native Americans who killed off other tribes when they arrived, then bitched and moaned about whites taking over. The point is the Chinese didn't build Malacca, the Portugese did.

    Early Chinese arrivals helped build the railroad in America in the 1800s but the majority of Chinese in the US today arrived after 1965, and in large numbers from mainland China after 2000. The last group esp. came to feast on what the white men built, just like all other third world parasites.

    Well, we will get out anyway as the West becomes absurdly groidified and mestizoized.

    You should look up the amount of Japan-born and South Korea-born residents in America. They aren’t increasing. When commies and other authoritarian freaks get ousted in China and North Korea why shall NE Asian people still have any reason to move elsewhere other than for business and tourism? After all we have very low TFR.

    We have built plenty of places and will build more, including in terminally FUBAR places such as Sub-Saharan Africa. A lot of industries in Southeast Asia exist at all because of us.

    I’m likely to relocate to Singapore at some point. No groids. No mestizos. No possibility of getting caught in some chimpout.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
    EAST


    Japanese have not wanted to immigrate to the US in 30, 40 years. South Koreans don't want to immigrate to the US.

    Nobody wants to immigrate to the US except people from the worst third world countries on the planet and a few Eastern European trophy wives like Donald Trump's.

    California is so completely Mestizo that other races are simply moving away and Japanese-owned businesses and banks have long been sold and are now decaying monuments to a time when California was the height of civilization before it became Guatemala part 2.

    The Korean stores burned down by rioting blacks in the 1992 LA riots were never rebuilt. And probably never will be.

    More and more of the US resembles Detroit or Baltimore. Rusty ghost towns. With the economy gravitating to Asia there is no purpose in immigrating to America.
    , @Truth


    I’m likely to relocate to Singapore at some point.
     
    Preferably within the next 7 days.
    , @Anonymous

    I’m likely to relocate to Singapore at some point. No groids. No mestizos. No possibility of getting caught in some chimpout.
     
    Don't you find it a bit inhumane? There's something very sterile and dictatorial about Singapore that gives me the creeps.
    , @anon

    I’m likely to relocate to Singapore at some point.
     
    What's stopping ya? GTFO. And bring the rest of your 4 million co-ethnics with you. Sick of all y'all scammers and parasites living in this country and sending your kids to our public schools on tourist visas! No one likes to live next door to a Chinaman, or an Indian filth, for that matter. And for Christ's sake stop talking with your mouth full and stop chewing with your mouth open.
    , @anon
    I'm thinking the reason you don't like the Chinese commie government is because you are either a corrupt government official/businessman or the son of one, emigrated with all your ill gotten gains before you get thrown in jail, like 90% of China people who emigrated. Only the rich can afford to emigrate in China, and the country is so corrupt, the only way you could get rich is by being corrupt, either by taking massive graft, or giving it. Or maybe you are one of the remaining 10% who are illegals or fake asylees claiming to be persecuted because you are Christian, or political dissident...all fake, of course.

    America is becoming increasingly unpleasant to live in because of corrupt liars like you and your countrymen. Please go back to Asia.
  • @Anon
    Not quite the same. White South Africans (the Dutch Boers) arrived in Cape Town when the country was completely unoccupied. They cleared the land and turned it into beautiful farmlands, city and living space just like what the whites did in America. Then the British came and tried to take over from them, war ensued, the Boers moved inland and made the inland areas habitable too. Blacks arrived in SA after whites built SA, and soon after claimed it's their land and their continent and wanted the whites out. Whites built everything, blacks just take, take, take.

    Malaya was not vacant land when the Chinese arrived. It was already occupied by the Malays. Not to say that the Malays were the first there either, they probably killed off some other tribes when they arrived, like the Native Americans who killed off other tribes when they arrived, then bitched and moaned about whites taking over. The point is the Chinese didn't build Malacca, the Portugese did.

    Early Chinese arrivals helped build the railroad in America in the 1800s but the majority of Chinese in the US today arrived after 1965, and in large numbers from mainland China after 2000. The last group esp. came to feast on what the white men built, just like all other third world parasites.

    Not quite the same. White South Africans (the Dutch Boers) arrived in Cape Town when the country was completely unoccupied.

    http://www.picsmine.com/49-famous-history-sayings-quotes/history-saying-history-is-a-set-of-lies-agreed-upon/

  • Anon[681] • Disclaimer says:
    @EastKekistani
    The situation of NE Asian people in these Austronesian & African & Latin American hellholes is similar to that of the white expats in occupied South Africa and occupied Rhodesia. We need to fight together against the dark, tropical and barbarian forces.

    Not quite the same. White South Africans (the Dutch Boers) arrived in Cape Town when the country was completely unoccupied. They cleared the land and turned it into beautiful farmlands, city and living space just like what the whites did in America. Then the British came and tried to take over from them, war ensued, the Boers moved inland and made the inland areas habitable too. Blacks arrived in SA after whites built SA, and soon after claimed it’s their land and their continent and wanted the whites out. Whites built everything, blacks just take, take, take.

    Malaya was not vacant land when the Chinese arrived. It was already occupied by the Malays. Not to say that the Malays were the first there either, they probably killed off some other tribes when they arrived, like the Native Americans who killed off other tribes when they arrived, then bitched and moaned about whites taking over. The point is the Chinese didn’t build Malacca, the Portugese did.

    Early Chinese arrivals helped build the railroad in America in the 1800s but the majority of Chinese in the US today arrived after 1965, and in large numbers from mainland China after 2000. The last group esp. came to feast on what the white men built, just like all other third world parasites.

    • Replies: @Truth
    Not quite the same. White South Africans (the Dutch Boers) arrived in Cape Town when the country was completely unoccupied.

    http://www.picsmine.com/49-famous-history-sayings-quotes/history-saying-history-is-a-set-of-lies-agreed-upon/
    , @EastKekistani
    Well, we will get out anyway as the West becomes absurdly groidified and mestizoized.

    You should look up the amount of Japan-born and South Korea-born residents in America. They aren't increasing. When commies and other authoritarian freaks get ousted in China and North Korea why shall NE Asian people still have any reason to move elsewhere other than for business and tourism? After all we have very low TFR.

    We have built plenty of places and will build more, including in terminally FUBAR places such as Sub-Saharan Africa. A lot of industries in Southeast Asia exist at all because of us.

    I'm likely to relocate to Singapore at some point. No groids. No mestizos. No possibility of getting caught in some chimpout.
    , @EastKekistani
    We earn a lot of income on average almost all over the world including in America compared to natives and commit very few crimes compared to natives. Hence we aren't parasites. We are too rich to be Third World but not developed enough to be First World yet so we are Second World.

    However I do agree that diversity harms social unity and that we do have a serious corruption/low-trust problem. Hence we should (and will because we can't live with violence either due to a race war or due to a high concentration of groids & mestizos & other pests being what they are at all) separate and remain friendly.

    Moreover I know very well that the universe does not operate according to morality. Hence we the NE Asian people really need to start conquering FUBAR shitholes and remove all their subhuman natives. Sadly it is extremely hard to convince contemporary civilized people such as your and my races to start removing subhumans worldwide. Hence the world will remain plagued.

    , @jeff stryker
    681


    Chinese had traded in Southeast Asia as bush peddlers for 1000 years but it was not until Spanish and English built cities like Manila and KL that the Chinese actually IMMIGRATED with their families.

    Chinese are traders and merchants, not colonial settler types. Only when the Spanish had been in Philippines for 300 years did the Chinese really immigrate to the Philippines in huge numbers, for example.
  • @jeff stryker
    Including the Uighur?

    Anyhow, my point is that most SEA trace their roots to Fujian province, especially in the Philippines. They all came out of the Amoy Harbor. Especially the Chinese-Filipinos.

    Uighurs speak Turkic, and use Arabic script as their written language. It is not a Chinese dialect. They are not han.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
    481


    I know that, it was a bad joke. Hakka would be a subgroup of Han Chinese. The Overseas Chinese Business Community in Southeast Asia is from the Fujian province for the most part.
  • The situation of NE Asian people in these Austronesian & African & Latin American hellholes is similar to that of the white expats in occupied South Africa and occupied Rhodesia. We need to fight together against the dark, tropical and barbarian forces.

    • Replies: @Anon
    Not quite the same. White South Africans (the Dutch Boers) arrived in Cape Town when the country was completely unoccupied. They cleared the land and turned it into beautiful farmlands, city and living space just like what the whites did in America. Then the British came and tried to take over from them, war ensued, the Boers moved inland and made the inland areas habitable too. Blacks arrived in SA after whites built SA, and soon after claimed it's their land and their continent and wanted the whites out. Whites built everything, blacks just take, take, take.

    Malaya was not vacant land when the Chinese arrived. It was already occupied by the Malays. Not to say that the Malays were the first there either, they probably killed off some other tribes when they arrived, like the Native Americans who killed off other tribes when they arrived, then bitched and moaned about whites taking over. The point is the Chinese didn't build Malacca, the Portugese did.

    Early Chinese arrivals helped build the railroad in America in the 1800s but the majority of Chinese in the US today arrived after 1965, and in large numbers from mainland China after 2000. The last group esp. came to feast on what the white men built, just like all other third world parasites.
  • @Anon
    Hey clueless, all who speak a Chinese dialect are han.

    Including the Uighur?

    Anyhow, my point is that most SEA trace their roots to Fujian province, especially in the Philippines. They all came out of the Amoy Harbor. Especially the Chinese-Filipinos.

    • Replies: @Anon
    Uighurs speak Turkic, and use Arabic script as their written language. It is not a Chinese dialect. They are not han.
  • @Anon
    The Malays are a laid back, family oriented, friendly people who are not at all dishonest, materialistic or dog-eat-dog like the Chinese. Curse the British for bringing the abominable Chinese to the Malay peninsular to ruin that beautiful little paradise. What is wrong with just letting people enjoy their village lives? The Malays do not mind their poverty, they are happy living in the villages and enjoying their laid back lifestyle, grow and fish what they can eat and they are satisfied. The greedy Chinese all need to be repatriated back to China, or go to Singapore, another totally soulless, dog-eat-dog Chinese dominant city like HK, Shanghai or Beijing, where people do nothing all day but make money, shop and eat. Chinese are soulless.

    There were plenty of Chinese in Malacca when the first Europeans ( Portugese ) arrived in 1511 .

    Of course the numbers vastly increased under the British but there has long been a Chinese prescence in Malaya

  • @wilpattuHouse
    If they are so smart why is Malaysian crime supposedly synonymous with Tamil Gangs?

    I think two types of Tamil.
    Indian Tamil as indentured labor and educated Ceylon/Jaffna Tamils as white collar.

    Considering the British imported the Tamils to Sri Lanka (Sinhalese being some ancient Buddhist offshoot of the Bengali race) this is an interesting observation.

    Why did the Tamils excel as accountants and clerics in Sri Lanka but not in Malaysia, another British colony?

    Why did Tamil Nadu involve itself in the Sri Lanka war to the extent of killing an Indian president when that war was in a different country?

  • @jeff stryker
    If they are so smart why is Malaysian crime supposedly synonymous with Tamil Gangs?

    If they are so smart why is Malaysian crime supposedly synonymous with Tamil Gangs?

    I think two types of Tamil.
    Indian Tamil as indentured labor and educated Ceylon/Jaffna Tamils as white collar.

    • Replies: @jeff stryker
    Considering the British imported the Tamils to Sri Lanka (Sinhalese being some ancient Buddhist offshoot of the Bengali race) this is an interesting observation.

    Why did the Tamils excel as accountants and clerics in Sri Lanka but not in Malaysia, another British colony?

    Why did Tamil Nadu involve itself in the Sri Lanka war to the extent of killing an Indian president when that war was in a different country?