it was another instance of your govt demonstrating that they aren’t accountable to you

(if you’re an American)

Especially never if it is a liberal woman..

One wonders, why would Zionism commit genocide on the host it parasitizes on (the Western countries, and foremost, the US). Replace the highly qualified whites with at large low qualified immigrants, of which also quite some are hostile towards Israel/Jews, where is the advantage for the terrorist parasite?
Additionally, it took decades to brainwash Westerners into multiculturalism, into the holohaux and many other things. By replacing the at large complacent brainwashed white Westerners, they’d have to start the brainwashing and manipulation program all again…

White Nationalist logic makes no sense to me.

Prof Greg Barton is very likely to be a Muslim convert. At his previous institution he appointed as a Lecturer in Terrorism the very high profile Mudlim and terrorist apologist Waleed Aly to the staff. I once saw Barton being interviewed in his office and I spotted a Muslim prayer rug on a shelf in the office.

“The NZ deal was a drill with crisis actors and no one died”

Well, I didn’t think so at first, but look closely at the video when he enters the mosque.

There’s a magazine lying on the floor already. It’s grainy video, but you can see a curved object. He walks by it, shoots people, gets rushed, falls down, goes back and shoots more people. he comes back for a first reload, which is a magazine he dropped when he was rushed. But then he goes back to get the one that was lying in the hallway at the beginning of the video when he entered.

Not saying it is fake, but why would a mosque just leave an AR15 magazine around with white writing on it?

For me there’s always a tension between two things –

• the depth of the depravity of the political class (and their camp-followers); and
• the level of idiocy that a human adult can exhibit while still being able to wipe their own arse.

The first dot-point above can be neatly characterised as “The Worst, Rule“. That is the first and most important axiom in my conceptual framework for policy analysis. It means that the very first assumption is that the political machinery promulgating any policy is acting primarily to further its own interests (and that of its cronies); their interest in the public rationale for the policy is secondary.

In other words, anything involving the political class should be subject viewed with extreme skepticism: the burden of proof rests squarely with them; they are not entitled to a presumption of innocence, or even ‘benefit of the doubt’ … because there is no doubt that they are, as a class, parasitic megalomanaical sociopaths.

And the corollary of having the worst people in a society in charge, is that they have no qualms about sacrificing peons in furtherance of their own objectives.

Whether that sacrifice is direct (actually doing bad acts) or indirect (permitting bad acts to happen) doesn’t matter to them – they have plenty of personnel who are willing to do bad acts directly, if required. (That last fact – the existence of tax-funded stone-cold, no-questions-asked killers – should worry everybody).

The second dot-point can only partly explain the Tarrants, Bryants, Breiviks, McVeighs and their ilk. The atrocities attributed to them have too many characteristics that are implausible under a ‘lone nut’ logistical model (where the lone nut does all the organising).

There are vast numbers of disaffected people scattered through society, and a reasonable proportion of them will have the psychotype that is capable of killing one or more people. I have no problem accepting those propositions.

However the problem is that disaffected individuals who are prepared to kill people, are unlikely to be good at planning.

The thing that characterises these guys is that they are – to a man – economic also-rans and cognitive underperformers.

And yet are are supposed to believe that despite the fact that their lives show that they are terrible at planning and executing plans… they suddenly develop a capability to organise and carry out a moderately complex project, much of which must be clandestine until the actual event. (The fact that Breivik and Tarrant were regular gym-goers is not evidence that they ‘planned’… neither of them was in particularly good shape, for a start).

Contrast that with some dummy who drives a car into a crowd, or attacks people with a machete in the street. There’s no logistical element; nothing for security forces to detect beforehand. It’s perfectly consistent with “pissed off idiot capable of killing someone”.

Contrast it also with the likes of Ted Kaczynski: he was also a nut, but he was also a priori capable of the logistics required to do what he did, which is why he got away with it for almost two decades.

With these mass shooters. it’s a contest between two explanations:
Ⓐ political shitbags send their paid killers to kill some folks for some venal reason;
OR
Ⓑ halfwit organises and executes clandestine logistics effort, then executes special-forces level fire and movement operation (Tarrant’s effort wasn’t particularly special, but Breivik and Bryant’s were).

Ⓐ is always inherently more plausible; Ⓑ is only plausible if state security forces drop the ball or stay out of the way.

And as you rightly point out, dummies can also be ginned up by someone acting to further the interests of some political asshole.

We know, for example, that almost every ‘foiled’ terrrrrrrrrist plot has turned out to have been the result of entrapment – so-called ‘sting’ operations. These sting operations have a couple of common characteristics:
(1) the perpetrators are halfwits who had neither the means nor the intention to do any large-scale violent acts; and
(ii) an undercover agent provocateur is the invariably the prime-mover – the guy encouraging an escalation from rhetoric to action, promising to furnish requisite explosives etc.

As for MKULTRA, I think that’s overblown.

I have no doubt that the US government tried a bunch of adventures in psychotropics, hallucinogens, attempts at post-hypnotic suggestion, and psychobabble. Probably paid absolute top dollar for it, too. Some psychosophasters and other snake-oil pedlars grifted a good living out of it, and a bunch of test subjects probably got seriously fucked up.

As to anything with concrete operational merit, nah: I reckon they discovered that the Pledge of Allegiance does as much indoctrination during K-12, as can be achieved through MKULTRA-type nonsense. And of course, only to suggestible, low-IQ gullible dummies.

Not sayin’ they don’t have trained killers with ice in their veins: I’ve already indicated that I accept that all governments have those on staff, e.g., the guys the US government used to assassinate Frank Olson when they got the sense that he was going to blow the whistle for US use of biological weapons in Korea.

But like all psychobabble, MKULTRA psychocharlatanry should be expected to yield results that are not statistically different from placebo.

First you claim that I’m a troll and then in the very same comment you say that you don’t think I’m a troll. The confusion evident in your comment likely extends to the confusion in other ares of your life, nudge nudge wink wink, given your own references to your gay friends and your support for the Pedo Priest Pell.

I would say that the lesson here from this exchange is that when you automatically label anyone who disagrees with you as a troll then you can expect to be trolled, not that I’ve had to add anything to what you’ve written yourself and your extreme sensitivity would suggest that I did strike a nerve when I alluded to your own bentness. Never mind, stay safe now.

…am more convinced that there is a deliberate plan behind their actions…

Lete’s clarify and summarize the thing.

Correct, there IS a plan. Very smart people hatched it.
Their problem is, people executing the plan are incompetent.

We, on the other hand, have no plan. Our smart people can’t agree to speak with each other, let alone produce a coherent vision. Plan…oh my.

This shooter, for all his youth, has a vision, made a plan himself and executed a major part of it.

My take: it gave “them” a pause. Made “them” uncomfortable.
Incompetent and uncomfortable people tend to make mistakes.

I am aware so well about the …ahm…alt-Light strategy.

There is another: make the middle class unhappy with the current paradigm.
Unhappy people tend to try to do something.

The reaction to the event, by TPTBs, will make the white middle class more and more unhappy in NZ, Australia and the rest of “colonies”, in that order.
Yes, around 90 % will buckle and submit. Doesn’t’ matter. 10 % won’t.
Around 1 % will do something about it. No surveillance state can prevent that.
And the circle repeats.

Something will give in.

You stupid troll. Having seen the gay anglicans (and finding one to be a very entertaining converasionalist), it was, of course, a big surprise to find, in more recent years, that parts of priesthood the R.C. Church in the U.S.A., the Vatican, and likely Germany, are sodomists.

Some (a few may be more correct) of the women religious (i.e. nuns) in the U.S.A. are avid clam munchers

All of those examples are examples of people betraying vows.

An evil woman named Mary Daley was a ‘professor’ at an RC university, in the U.S.A., only fired just before her death.

You may gain some education by reading a litttle of her crap. You strike me, not as a troll, but somebody who doesn’t know much abt. anything, and will never (or only much later), work anything out.

The problem is that NZ current ruling elite, and the rest in the developed world, are incompetent.

I am not so sure about that, and am more convinced that there is a deliberate plan behind their actions.

Take for example the case of the breakup of Yugoslavia with the intention of setting up an Islamic state for the first time in modern Europe. Alia Izetbegovic published his “Islamic Declaration” as long ago as 1969, for which he was later imprisoned in the former Yugoslavia, clearly spelling out his views and intentions, and all of NATO and most of the West, not to mention the Islamic world, backed his plans during the 1990s. Surely it can’t be coincidental, or because of some concerns about the human rights of muslims, considering these same countries are most happy to commit mass murder of muslims in the Middle East.

I’d say they are quite competent in achieving their ends so far, but thankfully not completely, as always there is some counterbalance. Let’s just hope they become even more incompetent as they overreach in attaining their goals ever-faster. And probably some of their plans overlap with some bigger plans, and some get shelved temporarily. No doubt many of the ruling politicians are quite stupid but behind it all there does seem to be some more deliberate force acting long-term.

Yet none of them ever considered forcing the breakup of some Arab country to give Arab Christians a state of their own in the heart of the muslim world and then to emigrate Christians oppressed throughout the muslim world into said hypothetical country. You would have considered that the Christian west would prefer some such plan, especially if they care about human rights and oppression of subjected minorities, as the Christians in the muslim world are. Or to resettle Christian sub-Saharan Africans into the rich Arab countries like Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states to solve the overpopulation problem, but the UN replacement migration policy prefers to dump everyone on the Wets. No, it seems their plans go in a totally different direction, chasing down the last white man, woman, and child.

As much as I try to resist the allure of so-called “conspiracy theories”, it’s becoming harder for me to do so, considering historical geopolitics and what’s going on today.

http://www.unz.com/pfrost/they-really-did-start-it/

During his assasination of the Serbian royal couple in 1903, Colonel Dragutin Dimitrijević hacked of the Queeens breasts and used in in the initiaton ceremonies. of his secret society The Black Hand . In 1914 Dimitrijević ordered the assasination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand.

I agree, he was just the spark, and if he failed there were other Black Handers ready to do it.

Mulims like little boys,daughters are worth money,and therefore best unsullied before sold to a husband.

The war was planned in higher circles that Gavrilo Princip couldn’t possibly hope to move in. His bullet simply served as the trigger for the conflict and had it not happened another trigger would have promptly been found and put to use.

B.T.W, re the core of the message of the article: no.

The problem we are facing isn’t some carefully hatched masterplan being executed by top players. No.
That would’ve been easy to handle.

The problem is that NZ current ruling elite, and the rest in the developed world, are incompetent. That is the problem.
The girl with hijab, in any sane world, wouldn’t lead a primary school classroom. In NZ, she is a Prime Minister. That is the problem.

The reaction to the event couldn’t have been more incompetent. The rush, the heavy-handedness, the overall emotional setup….all characteristics of modern state decision making.

The masters of old would’ve handled this much better, for people, and for them and for the country. Mature, competent people.
These, current, people can not. Trump, Macron, May….this girl.
Yeah……………..

That is the problem.
They’ll create exactly what they do not want. And, no, they don’t want real trouble.

Let me ask a simple question: if you were a member of TPTB, would you really enjoy that coffee in that fancy restaurant knowing there is, albeit small, the chance of a bullet? Or something else……Really enjoy that meal? That villa? That fancy place?
I don’t think so.

We, “deplorables” are simply between a rock and a hard place.
The current elites are incompetent (on top they are corrupted). We haven’t got our own elites, yet.
The pressure is building with each passing day.

Well…at the end of the day, somebody will “move”.

…one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.

Oh yes…..most definitely.

….denouncing the elites as a whole, as both incompetent, individually corrupt, under Jewish mandate cannot be discussed, Euro-descend “leaders” in the public eye, having sold out their own power base…

IS the key, agree, to start the real game.

But, that’s not enough. The real key is having an elite which can replace the corrupted. We haven’t got that.

The only question which I find interesting at the present is simple: how come that in spite of having all this technology for instant communication we, on the “al-right”, haven’t been able to produce such alternative elite?

What’s wrong with us in that regards?

THAT is the key.

Now, I do have a theory, but, how to put it, “not helpful” at the moment.

BTW, don’t pay attention to “disappearing” and the general vibe of this, or any, place. All that matters is that some of us CAN talk. Again, as in a pub. 200 persons talking about anything….I phase them out, focus on the guy next to me (and drinks, of course…).

This place, still, provides that channel.

And, make no mistake: the real game will start only when this channel goes down. Let’s leave it there, for the moment.

Most certainly you posit a valid point of view,

Now it is all about tuning a common vocabulary, then library, —in “alternative” media space. A hard thing, see our other comments on this thread, (#392) and what “alternative” stands for. As soon as you zoom in, we suspect your effort will be botched.

The idea world starts in a non morphing space, after all and everything, that would point to a Wikileaks model. Do not bother much here, your effort will be a net loss.

Anyone with the scantest knowledge of history, will tell you that the whole propaganda of the deed schtick is the worst possible way to get your ideas accepted. It has literally never worked, anywhere, ever.

Which is precisely why so many of us here are open to the idea that was a false-flag or a psy-op or whatever; because it makes so little sense from a terrorist’s standpoint, but loads of sense from the deep state’s point of view. Cui bono and all that.

Look, I’m not saying this Tarrant guy wasn’t legitimately crazy. I’m sure Lee Harvey Oswald had a few screws loose as well. But crazy guys can easily–even willingly–be made to serve as patsies for such operations. The CIA, for example, spent decades studying mind-manipulation techniques. Look up ‘MK Ultra’ sometime … it’ll no doubt be eye-opening.

You calling Gavrilo Princip a terrorist?

Not necessarily. I meant in some people’s perception as obviously the Austrio-Hungarians at the time. You know: one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.

And thanks likewise,

By the way, both Paul Craig Roberts’ last article referring to our elites, their incompetence, and submission to Jewish interests and an interview with Kevin B. MacDonald, that one commented on by ourselves, authorized within half an hour by the authors, went of-line, on the back-burner, out of the public listings, into the black hole, in a matter of hours. Back-burner or black hole, up to Unz to explain or stone-wall. The article of P. C. Roberts was replaced with another one of his, within hours (as authors have more then a single submission at some time or other, we are looking foreward to see reappearing both some-where at a more “appropriate” time —or not). The interview was black holed also within hours.

You are smart enough youlselves, so if both of these authorities on the Jewish question and the elites, (Craig, MacDonalds) stay silent, publicly to the unz.com readers, then that says enough about the labor on this site to keep it tuned, or deceitful as to it’s purpose, the pecking order, what the mindset at unz.com is all about, what goes for method.

Just as an addendum, our comment, and the comment it refers at on the Ron Unz article

Banned by Amazon and Purged by the Neocons • 70 Comments • 3 New

as it stands, as of today, were also scrubbed. Again these comments refer at the central theme: our elites, our rulers are corrupted to the core, all, and respond as puppets to Jewish interests, that is as far as the Western world stands. A civilization of three millennia is erased to the next generation of their own, in less then a hundred years. And replaced with …slavery. Bravo, to the ones that run such a show, boo to the ones that try hard not to take notice, and do not have the balls to respond.

If any-one doubts the above proceedings, of course, sources are available.

It seems that denouncing the elites as a whole, as both incompetent, individually corrupt, under Jewish mandate cannot be discussed, Euro-descend “leaders” in the public eye, having sold out their own power base, is outside the boundaries of what goes for unz.com, as well as the wider world. The alternative of unz.com seems to resemble –none.

Do you mean the Bosnian Muslims or Serbs?

Muslims.
They got Islam, as state religion, back into Europe. True, they were just a small part of overall effort financed by Saudis, helped by all Muslim countries and heavily supported by West, Americans in particular. Everyone and his/her dog against Serbs….and Croats when you think about it.
What’s the expression: you reap what you sow?
As for Gavrilo Princip…now….that’s an interesting thought. Ha e didn’t go and shoot up a mosque or Catholic church.

…an act of terrorism..

What? You calling Gavrilo Princip a terrorist?
Moving on.

….there is little physical courage among the Euro-descend people ..

Looks like it,at the moment.

And, yet……

All going so well and then, bang, Norway. A bit of confusion, and the game continues. All good.
BANG. The guy in New Zealand. Confusion and hysterics this time. The game will continue, accelerated.
The next bang is given, somewhere.

Bangs with the constant tightening of the screws, which simply creates more guys willing to “move”.
Something will give in.

There IS one element nobody wants to talk about: the forced perception of a weak white young man. The Negro reigns in public perception as a tough, dangerous man; “honkey” is weak meek, emasculated, even feminized.
BANG….or, better…”crack”, “crack”, “crack”, “crack”, “crack”. One, average looking, young white guy, with a rifle, and lots of planning. PLANNING. THINKING. Something the “magical Negro” is incapable of.
That’s a dangerous opponent. A gray person, nobody. With a will, patience and analytical mind. Amongst “them”.

As long as such man can get a late 19th century bolt action rifle TPTBs can’t enjoy their spoils. Five such men can get a city into a full day lockdown. That possibility could make “them” take a pause. Start to think that maybe what they’ve been doing isn’t actually so profitable. Takes just one round and no more power play, villas, yachts, private jets. Just one old 8×57 or .303 from 600 meters.

“You don’t listen, don’t let me even speak. Fine. Are you listening now”?

those people got their independent country

Do you mean the Bosnian Muslims or Serbs? They both got something of their own that pass as states within a state of that B&H for now.

The best example is Gavrilo Princip in that same Sarajevo. With that assassin’s bullet he wrecked four empires: Austrio-Hungarian, Ottoman, Russian, and German. OK, Germany wasn’t much of an empire but it lost the few overseas possessions it had, and the Russian one became Soviet, but still it’s a hell of an achievement for an act of terrorism, and many peoples got their independent countries as a result.

You could say the same of OBL and his twin towers, how many countries have been wrecked as a consequence – that is assuming it wasn’t a false flag sponsored by government but a genuine terrorist act. Although no nation building followed that, just nation wrecking.

The link you refer to, is indeed a page of scare mongering. https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/man-custody-allegedly-sharing-mosque-livestream . Since there is little physical courage among the Euro-descend people manifest… Jemen and Gaza, the Assange situation shows this at a far more pertinent level.

Do not hold your breath, the consolidation of a true mindset that equals psychological thrift comparable to other in-groups, and postponing then impositioning a true philosophy and hard physical goals for a future world, first of all regaining an identity as European descend people, will be hard fought, and it should. That makes our times so interesting. Long slugs, retirement into misery and decay of a stressed planet, the Euro descend survivors will thank Nature for leading the way in putting the thumbscrews on the current global psychosis of “Growth for ever”, “Unlimited footprints”, “My identity is fluid”, “Corruption institutionalized”, “Physical courage is bad”, “Consuming is existing”, “Battery Chicken works out into Battery Human”, the list is endless, narratives.

Regards,
We think in the short term, that there is no way back, when the Jewish psychological warfare backs off, if ever there is at the least some expression of dissent that matters, the reign of David is over, return to the pogroms. The Muslims are not going to be candid to Jew interests.

With the possible exception of far eastern Canada, New Zealand is the most British place outside of Britain. Hence, NZ politicians and talking heads simply parrot whatever politically correct drivel liberal politicians in the mother country say.

That’s why we need to get this Brexit BS over and done with ASAP. As Steve Turley points out, the ongoing Brexit fiasco is sucking the energy out of nationalism/populism in the UK. Which in turn is sucking the energy out of nationalism/populism in Ireland, Australia and New Zealand. Once its over and done with, that nationalist populist energy will start pushing in other, more important directions.

Hilarious, many thanks.

Never vote for a woman. Politically, with a few notable exceptions, they want three things:

1. More government
2. More Taxes
3. Fewer freedoms.

Having eschewed motherhood for themselves, they nevertheless seem to view entire societies as troublesome children they must constantly guide and correct.

You and your gay church friends again. There’s never enough for you people is there?

As for

…the whole propaganda of the deed schtick is the worst possible way to get your ideas accepted. It has literally never worked, anywhere, ever….

Probably, probably…..

Still, this comes to mind:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Nikola_Gardovi%C4%87

Oh, BTW, I could’ve posted around dozen of similar examples, but, true, they happened in some totally different world/time/whatever. On Pluto or 13th Planet.
So, yes, yes, I know, there are no…repeat after me…NO….similarities between that and this. None. None whatsoever. I know the party line.

And, yet, hehe…..those people got their independent country. All that they wanted.
But, yes, “we’ll get it some other way. We just need to keep believing that.

In which industrial dispute did the workers go out and get the factory owners? Most of the time they beat and killed the scabs that were bused in to take their jobs, even though those very strikebreakers were unemployed victims of the same capitalist system. Yet no true conscious worker felt any sympathy for the scabs. However, in these latter-day cases the lefties are actually promoting the scabs and helping to ship them in to threaten jobs and livelihood of the local workers, and then using wars they mostly themselves support as some sort of excuse why they are doing this.

There is something seriously wrong with the literature of the contemporary left and right that I have been reading as they seem to be misrepresenting each other and often themselves. Whoever got the idea that lefties should go and assist scabs to cross borders to take jobs and undercut wages of locals? These people are assisting the capitalist bosses to provide them with that cheap non-unionised labour. Or that lefties should be calling for wars under guise of some “humanitarian” intervention. Or that they should be participating in disarming citizens by demanding stricter gun controls. Or demanding increasing censorship and government control. Haven’t these lefties read “1984”? These lefties seem to me to be bigger fascists than the neo-Nazis and the self-declared fascists of today.

The Europe I lived and travelled around in during the 1990s is dead. A witches’ brew of pacifism, inaction in the face of demographic attack, and rule by wicked, cancerous elites killed it. The United States is proceeding quickly down the same road.

Since the toppling of Hillary, the balance of power has shifted in the globalist witch cult. Rising stars like haunted house face Ahern rush in to fill the void.

That’s because the people arrested were just schlubs, not members of the author’s clique.

In common with almost all members of political cliques, it would appear that this Bolton dude doesn’t actually give a fuck about the principles he claims are being violated: he only cares if the targets are him and his clique.

Feels that way.

I guess it goes nicely with the idea of al-light…ahm….elites… who are supposed to lead us out of this mess.

Interesting……

A question for you if I may, a piece of …..sensible and practicable….advice:

Say……if a person from “alt-right” sphere of thinking suspects that somebody is planning to “pull a trigger”, literally, at any level of the pyramid of the current “immigration” paradigm…..what would be a….sensible….thing to do? From the lowest target, as in this case, to …up….and up….

The person getting ready to “pull a trigger” can be anyone not happy, for any reason imaginable, with the current state of affairs re “immigration”. From a lunatic to an experienced ISIS operative, and anything in between.

I am sure the question is clear to you; for the rest, can’t have it formulated better, I am afraid, in the current hysterics of the world around here.

What would be a ….prudent and productive….. thing to do?
Pick up a phone, perhaps? Or something else?

As for this article, disappointing.
Among some other things, not ONE word about arrests of two guys in New Zealand.

That’s because the people arrested were just schlubs, not members of the author’s clique.

In common with almost all members of political cliques, it would appear that this Bolton dude doesn’t actually give a fuck about the principles he claims are being violated: he only cares if the targets are him and his clique.

Without having read anything produced by his clique, I’ll bet they were absolutely silent about the undermining of human rights and the expansion of the surveillance state… until they get a taste of what it’s like on the receiving end.

I might go and read some of their output just to confirm that I’m right… I’ll piss away half an hour reading tedious #BrownPeopleScary #NPC #SWLWG nonsense. (SLWG: scared weird little white guy)

When it’s all said and done, the actions of the NZ government are pretty run-of-the-mill.

Of course the political class is going to exploit a tragedy to expand its power.

Of course there will be public displays of mawkish lachrymose sentimentality, and mind-numbing pabulum.

Once the marketing-induced histrionics have subsided, the reality remains:
• anyone who wants to download and read Tarrant’s manifesto could do so in about 15 seconds;
• anyone who wants to download and view the video of the event can do so in ~10 minutes…
by taking anti-surveillance precautions that are free, freely available, and easy to implement.

I haven’t bothered to do either;
① there is nothing to be learned from the video (and a lot of the video copies that exist have been tampered with);
② almost nothing would be less interesting to read, than the musings of some fuckwit who thought that this was a sensible way of getting his point across.

Tarrant’s screed is a priori not worth reading (except for reasons of prurience) – especially not if you are remotely sympathetic to his worldview.

Why? Because his thought processes were so inadequate, that his chosen course of action was one of the most counterproductive possible courses of action. It has handed the State – globally – a stick with which to beat the ‘alt-Right’.

Given the action he decided upon, any advice contained in his ‘manifesto’ is going to be a case study in what not to do (assuming it’s not a gigantic misdirection: another unknowable).

Anyone with the scantest knowledge of history, will tell you that the whole propaganda of the deed schtick is the worst possible way to get your ideas accepted. It has literally never worked, anywhere, ever.

Put yourself in Tarrant’s shoes. You’re a not-very-bright economic underperformer looking to externalise blame for your failings.

So … over time you become convinced that brown immigration and high brown-immigrant TFR poses a civilisational risk to European/Western societies.

You observe that European/Western societies seem to be a bit too sanguine about this existential threat you’ve identified.

You decide that European/Western societies need to be shocked out of their irrational complacency.

You need a strategy.

You sit down and put on your thinking hat, and do your very very best thinking about how to get people to recognise and respond to the impending end of everything that they hold dear.

You really tax your brain… and let’s face it, your brain must be pretty sharp (notwithstanding your shitty performance at school) – after all, you’ve identified this societal risk that everyone else is overlooking.

OK… so here we are.

You’re at the kitchen table, thinking hard about how to get broader society to wake up.

How much of a fucking idiot do you have to be, to decide that your best strategy is to go shoot up a house of worship?

(I hate the term “house of worship“; mosques, churches, temples and synagogues are ignorance factories and grifting operations: it’s all in my manifesto lol).

Anyhow…

Dummies will often do things that are predictably, obviously counterproductive – there is abundant evidence that this is the case. Reading their attempts to explain their motivations is a waste of time.

inb4 “fake shooting”; “patsy”; “false flag” – any of those things, if true, would just make the manifesto less worth reading, n’est-ce pas?

With the quote from your post from another thread, as:

The identity of “Europeans”, “Northwest Europeans” stays flou (opaque), throughout the article, not as in flou on the Jewish side of things, where confusion, intent on being a morphing target, aid stronger identity to insider individuals. Jewish camouflage at to the purpose of decoy and defense (Soros, just as a single example). The insider Jew has no qualms as to where his interests lie.
If the Western European descend intellectuals want to recreate a bond with the general population (even an intellectual joker as Jordan Peterson does better), and as such can pretend to stand as a group, they will have to set aside their middle class scraps for pay mentality. The complexity of the Western world and history ,the original bits that are definitely not Jewish, are complex, rich, and historically deep. They merit to be defined beyond opposition as to other groups. Regardless of flawed historical models, the present global context, can only be addressed in it’s total complexity, not at all a Jewish priority. Ruling on a pile of dung is more like it.
The practical political problem, of White elites having sold out, being infiltrated by Jewish in-group interests, what is more, serving Jewish in-group interests, being played as puppets, thus severing the White Commoner future except as a Consumer Slave, is shameful, explicit, non-forgivable, terminal. Having Jewish individuals doing the explaining is such an expression of European amnesia and submission, the lack of taking responsibility.
On a practical scale, before any ambitions of shaping a world for the better, (including for all other groups and humans, global, planetary, on sanity premises, ambitions to which ultimately only the Western European descend people aspire, inclusiveness is single to them) can be even mentioned, the European descend people should take on the ralleying of their own, do away with their leaders (Yellow Vests point to a soft version of it).
The world needs that scope of consideration. Toxicity, resource exhaustion, bulging global populations that are liabilities to their own well-being, are timely, pertinent and unavoidable bottle-necks. These existential problems, concerning the future of humanity are oblivious to the Jewish mindset. As to any in-group mindset (Muslims another example (their breeding strategy is at the summit of confusion), global Consumer Society another).
In short, reconnecting with a clear and comprehensible European identity with which European descend commoners can identify and associate, they can comprehend, based on other then consumerism and middle class greed premises, by alternative elites that do away with what elites stands for in the now is a first.
The vision, global and for all (as should be), of the Jewish schemes regardless, is catastrophic to Europeans, to Muslims, to Ameri-Indians, whatever “minority” pointed at, the planet, the future of mankind. Jews being held responsible for this is lame, as a minuscule minority, they are just outgrowing their survival strategy and mostly at a loss, the Jewish global community is copy-pasting all of the historical errors in fast forward mode, using the latest tools.
Responsibility to Europeans means taking charge, no less. By shredding their corrupt elites, adopting a “Jewish” in-group mindset that includes common society of their own ethno-cultural line, that dumps the individual corrupted interest mongering that caters exclusively to the Jewish community of their despicable elites. There is nothing to be salvaged at the top. In exchange, such European descend mindset would make the whole of the Jewish influence mongering team sweat nastily in their socks, the greater interest of human future is lost to Jewish psychology.

and from this, as:

Your defected, corrupted elites, that left you in the cold for personal short-term gain, and now with no back-up whatsoever of their own ethnic base, are hostage to Jewish in-group interests. Not religion, nation states, whatever philosophy is going to help, when the messenger, the administrator is corrupted. The European descend people’s rot is in the head.

you are spot on.

The worst part?

“We” haven’t been able to produce our own elite, not even after Brexit and Trump, for the last couple of years, if online only.
THAT is the problem.
Understanding why “we” haven’t been able to do that would be the first, uncomfortable, step in making any practical difference.
Not holding my breath.

As for this article, disappointing.
Among some other things, not ONE word about arrests of two guys in New Zealand.
Like:
https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/man-custody-allegedly-sharing-mosque-livestream
Not one word.Peculiar.

The NZ leader has a severe case of jewbrain.

She hates herself, she hates her people, she hates her own nation.

One look at her and you can tell she’s nuts.

I’m not sure that white people are going to make it, truthfully.

With elites like this, what do you expect?

This is what the globalist EU superstate wants the future of Europe to look like. pic.twitter.com/kpbhRTcClJ

— Mark Collett (@MarkACollett) March 28, 2019

It is common knowledge that most SJW’s suffer from a form of mental illness, but a according to this
Vdare article, the NZ PM has actually been inside a mental hospital for treatment, seriously!

https://vdare.com/articles/after-christchurch-why-prime-minister-jacinda-ardern-was-the-wrong-leader-for-new-zealand?scroll_to_paragraph=8

What the Guardian journalist failed to mention is that Ardern’s anxiety is not the kind that can be controlled with a course of anti-depressants or some therapy. It is so acute that she has apparently spent periods in psychiatric hospitals, rumors which she evasively failed to deny when a journalist put them to her

Mass hysteria is not the object,

a state of mass hysteria induced by generating false flag terror and using the terror as a vehicle to use the law making and enforcement powers of the ARMS (Armed rule making structure=nation state by name) to impose “narrowly defined corridors as the only available avenue to safe, not subject to punishment speech, to alienate the governed from their human rights, and to disarm the governed from protections they need to defend their democracies and to prevent alienation by government of the human rights that below solely to the governed. The object of this false flag, as well as the many others in the past years, was not to induce hysteria, but instead to structure a way that would permit those in control of political authority to black list all non conforming speech, to limit expressions of artists, journalists, politicians, and academics to a very limited in size, highly controlled media space and to police and to punish all who utter non conforming expressions. Such is a method of Economic Zionism as can be evidenced by studying the spread of Zionism around the globe.

In order for capitalism to work, the government must protect the “competition space” from monopoly power, monopoly ownership and the government must enforce rule that prohibit a monopoly to flourish. Capitalism does not lead to multicultural globalization or marginalization, but the entire object of Economic Zionism [EZ] is to destroy all competition, to use the power of the government to place the products of EZ in monopolistic control of everything<that's why regime change. The essence of democracy is protected competition conducted and overseen by a fair and just government (capitalism), but the essence of Zionism to use the government and the media to gain monopoly power<EZ so strong that no one one can compete.

The NZ event is not about Identity or Globalism, but instead is an example of divide and conquer.. It is impossible to impose draconian laws on the entire population, but if half of the population believes such laws are ok, then the imposition is only offensive to the remaining half..

Recognize this false flag event for what it is: divide and conquer..a strategy of Economic Zionism..

She put out a press release two days ago saying she’d take off the “stupid hijab” after good Christians rip the heejab off Mother Mary. You know, Jesus’s mom. Also, the orthodox heejab-wearing jewesses in the Occupied W. Bank also must remove it, she add.

The PM, however, did not mention Catholic nuns. It have been an oversight.

‘…What justification does Professor Barton have for assuming that every such group is latently violent, and that any claim to non-violence is nothing but a façade? …’

Indeed. Best bust my daughter. She cares about animals, and we all know what PETA gets up to.

‘“….withhold grain and fuel to reduce the population to native levels?”. An excellent plan that I fully support. I would add modest shipments of ammunition to speed the program.’

And the vaccines. Definitely halt the shipments of vaccines and antibiotics.

It’d actually be kind of interesting to observe. Which would the blacks manage to manufacture on their own? Drugs or ammunition? Both? Neither?

My guess is that they’d manage ammunition — but not drugs.

The behavior that we are witnessing, read article under discussion.

Surely you’re not THAT slow.

‘…The association of Tarrant’s views with those of DM aims to show an ideological continuum that leads to violence… ‘

What’s enough to make one weep about this is that as it happens, any ideology can lead to violence.

Christianity did — vide the crusades. Islam — ‘the religion of peace’ — certainly did. Socialism observably did. ‘Black Power’ definitely did. The Nation of Islam spawned the Zebra killers. There are violent animal rights activists, and female suffragettes set off bombs. Mass Hindu violence is endemic in India.

So there are violent White Supremacists. So what? There are violent environmentalists, for Christ’s sake. The connection is meaningless. You might as well ban Socialism on the grounds that all Socialists age and eventually die.

I was only in uhn-zuhd once, and long ago.

Among the people I met were an apparently gay Anglican priest and his wife (!?!).

Their peak life experience seems to have been protesting against a Sprinboks (seth-efrican) rugby tour.

They even hed bromides of eht.

Bully, ey?

“….withhold grain and fuel to reduce the population to native levels?”. An excellent plan that I fully support. I would add modest shipments of ammunition to speed the program.

It is my opinion that no one was killed and that this was an MI6/MOSSAD/CIA ran deal for gun control same as in Sandy Hook, the school was closed in 2008.

Who is the real enemy of native, generational European descend people?

In short, their own elites.

See the article, interview of Kevin McDonald, of today on this same zine, unz.com. Have a glance at our comment on the interview and the more intellectual, prudent remarks of K. McDonald himself. Weight the Jewish tweaking of the questions.

Do not count on Muslims to comprehend that they are cheated into manipulation, immigrants to be complacent with your goals, somehow you Europeans will have to rally your own, and bite the throat of the real enemy. Your defected, corrupted elites, that left you in the cold for personal short-term gain, and now with no back-up whatsoever of their own ethnic base, are hostage to Jewish in-group interests. Not religion, nation states, whatever philosophy is going to help, when the messenger, the administrator is corrupted. The European descend people’s rot is in the head.

The minor incident in New Zealand, was most certainly not the most insidious act of terror of the week. Note, the long slug as the above of Kerry Bolton?, are not helpful to your cause as to comprehend anything much. Say they are in line with rooting you out, and keep with the confusion. Again no-one else should be held responsible for the loss of influence in polity, policy, social organization, economics, quality of life but your own.

Explanation for what exactly Wally?

Marginalization or “alienation” is also a significant part of the Marxist analysis of capitalism, but where the Rightist contends that multiculturalism and globalization lead to “marginalization,” this becomes beyond the pale of debate.

Capitalism leads to multiculturalism and globalization. Rootless consumerism is a primary feature of capitalism.

The right wingers should be out protesting war, colonialism, imperialism/capitalism with the socialists and communists if they want to address the refugee problem.

War, colonialism, imperialism/capitalism are the root causes of the refugees/immigrants.

Seems like many leaders of the right and the “left” are just interested in creating division and not addressing the root cause.

Right now theres still millions of Syrian refugees in Lebanon who cannot return home to Syria because of the destruction and ongoing war. Many will probably be heading to Europe, not because of a Muslim master plan, but because of Western colonialism, imperialism/capitalism.

Same thing in Latin America the “caravans” of refugees are coming from countries the US/CIA has overthrew democratically elected socialist leaders and installed Wall St friendly dictators that will allow corporations to plunder their resources. Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras all victims of CIA coups. Same thing will happen when Trump, Bolton, Abrams and Pompeo start a shooting war in Venezuela to please their capitalist overlords. Big time.

Smedley Butler explained all this long ago.

It is my opinion that no one was killed in the Las Vegas psyop , the gun shots were faked and crisis actors were used and no one was killed, the whole thing was a psyop for gun control, the whole thing was bullshit from start to finish, and it was a typical CIA/MOSSAD false flag deal.

Professor Greg Barton, chair of global Islamic politics at Australia’s Deakin University,

See, why don’t these guys like Tarrant shoot this guy instead of everyday people at worship? I guess, now that I think about it, that was something like Brevik’s reasoning.

With a username like that, you clearly must be Muslim

Somewhat amazing isn’t it?
Everywhere I look, there’s the continued demonization of the third reich and Hitler.
Every TV series from the USA, you can guarantee they’ll always have a couple of episodes that mention Hitler.
The narrative of evil nazis has to be continually enforced, through constant repetition in TV, radio and print media.
They simply have to keep pushing the narrative of 6million dead Jews.

You get tired of it, more so when you realize that pretty much 90% of history is BS.
Why did the nazis invade Poland and Czechoslovakia? Could it be to do with reclaiming lands, unlawfully taken from them after WW1?
Why did the nazis invade France? Could it be because the French invaded and declared war on Germany?
Why did the Germans bomb the UK? Could it be because the UK declared war on and bombed Germany first?
Why did the Germans want the Jews out? Could it be because Judea Declared War on Germany? What country, in any part of the world would want an alien population, with no loyalty to that nation and declaring war upon it, living within it?

Just sick fed up of the lies of history and the constant promotion of the lie that the Jews are a persecuted people. They’re not. They’re the most privileged, protected, racist, religiously and ethnically supremacist people this world has ever known.

We need another Hitler quite frankly, in every western nation. Kick out the kikel once and for all. Lock them all away on an island and let them rot there, like bot flies all feeding off of one another.

And what about that shooting that happened in Las Vegas a couple years ago–I can’t even remember the name of the casino. Whatever happened with that? Is there gonna be a trial? Did that just vanish down the memory-hole completely? So much weird shit now days.

That’s a f*cked up screen name. Unless you are a pre pubescent boy.

“Your fake ProgNazis will never take Antarctica.”

Do you think after the genocide of hundreds of civilizations and the complete and total mind control of European Christianity for 1000 years that they haven’t considered this yet?

After the Jew Zealand Prog-Nazi’s have eliminated the last white nationalist on the islands, their devious plan will come into play. Jews love fusion, so once they have gathered a million talmudists on the south island they are going to fuse the ear piercing prog-nazi whine with the Talmudic spittle flinging kvetch and the Maori Haka dance. They plan to call it the Million Cuck Kvetch. This will cause a massive tsunami that will calve all the antartic ice-caps, thus destroying your secret real nazi u-boat bases while eliminating global warming and racism.

I Trumped you!

I see showing interest in UFOs is silly if Germany did it, but OK if the US, Project Blue Book & much more, did it.

Then there’s the US base in Antarctica in addition to the various land claims by various countries in Antarctica.

And most importantly, there were the ‘Nazis’ with the impossible ‘6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’ and there were the ‘Nazis’ without the impossible ’6M Jews, 5M others, & gas chambers’.

the totalitarian atmosphere of liberal dogma… liberal totalitarians… liberal journalists or academics.

Can we hold off on the oxymorons? There is nothing liberal about these people.

Can we also say that the great myth of universal equality had been the most murderous ideology ever conceived?

I think the welfare state has got it beat.

“In a time of universal deceit – telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” George Orwell

March 18, 2019 Undeniable Proof: CGI Used in New Zealand Shooting The Nature and Intent of False Flag Terrorism

We are all now reexamining the video and problems are coming up. Here is the rub, the more problems we find, shotgun rounds coming out of a rifle, shotguns turning into rifles, disappearing shell casings, none of this is accidental.

https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/03/18/undeniable-proof-cgi-used-in-new-zealand-shooting/

Mar 17, 2019 HIDING THE EVIDENCE: New Zealand Gladio-Style Black Op

Guys, as I was uploading this report, Tweet (video) was brought to my attention, and it’s an absolute jaw-dropper. WATCH the spent shells vanish into thin air without ever hitting the ground.

The NZ deal was a drill with crisis actors and no one died, just like at Sandy Hook, Florida school, San Bernadino, Boston Bombing, etc., etc., all done for the Bolshevik left wing gun control agenda!

This is all part of the Protocols of Zion play book and a repeat of the zionist Bolshevik revolution in Russia now being played out worldwide for the zionist NWO agenda!

New Zealand will serve as a gateway for the Progressive invasion of the Antarctic while NZ’s resources are stripped to further the Progressive cause of the Multi-Culti Third World Reich.

Never! Your fake ProgNazis will never take Antarctica. Real Nazi UFO squadrons will sink any fleet trying to take it. They did it before and they’ll do it again.

When will Ahern take off the stupid hijab? She looks really stupid, decrying terrorism while dressing like a terrorist.

The establishment has a clear interest in curbing identitarians, so your tale of oppression does not resonate. The identitarian goal requires us to kick out most minorities, however due to the scale of the problem, third world source countries could never cope with the number of repatriated and famines would ensue. Whether in Europe or US, many of these immigrant populations are dependent on liberal order for survival. Because of this, the establishment is right in charging identitarians with being white dominionists or mass murderers. Would identitarians in power accept third world zones such as Africa trebling in population as predicted, or will they withhold grain and fuel to reduce the population to native levels?

So please, we know the establishment is going to abuse the Right and declare them to be terrorist groups. They’ve tied their survival to that of the Muslim and Guatemalan invaders. It doesn’t seem like a good strategy but that’s what they’ve done.

https://money.cnn.com/2018/04/12/news/companies/new-zealand-oil-gas-exploration/index.html

Evidently, analysis as to causes is inherently “fascist,” because it might lead to demands for a new banking system, like that of Hitler’s Germany or the 1935 New Zealand Labour government; and we all know where that leads to . . . prosperity, reconstruction, and full employment.

Prosperity, reconstruction, and full employment … geez! We can’t have that now, can we!

“What’s frustrating is that, even though the organisation might have gone, the people who were members are still around … The numbers are not important – it only takes one. So, we should be concerned, no matter how small or large they are. We absolutely ought to know about them, because we need to do something about them.”

I see. What we really need here is a final solution to the alt-right problem.

Ironically, what remains of the so-called “Right” in New Zealand are groups that are“Islamophobic,” such as Right Minds – NZ and Islamic State Watch – NZ, but so far from being “far Right,” these are liberal capitalists and pro-Israel, being of the Zionist-funded Tommy Robinson type. But they have largely remained under the radar of the media and the likes of Spoonley, Manch, Elley, and Barton.

‘Left-wing’ Jewish-funded groups refusing to rat on ‘right-wing’ Jewish-funded groups … imagine that!

Why do stupid goyim keep falling for the same tired old tropes, generation after generation? At the AIPAC convention this week we clearly had both the Democrats and the Republicans 100% united to Make Greater Israel Great Again. As far as deification of Jews and Israel goes, there is no difference between the two “parties”.

We see precisely the same thing if we compare the Progressives of today with the National Socialists of Weimar Germany. Just like the Nazis, Progressives believe in things like subsidized transit systems, social welfare policies, gun control, strict state control of child creation and rearing, even invading country after country to unite all Progressives-Nazis into the new Reich. Progressives and Socialists are Nazis, just like Republicans and Democrats are Zionists.

New Zealand, proudly being one of the most Progressive and Green (Nazis were very green too) countries on the planet, is actually a Progressive-Nazi stronghold. New Zealand will serve as a gateway for the Progressive invasion of the Antarctic while NZ’s resources are stripped to further the Progressive cause of the Multi-Culti Third World Reich.

NZ had had its very own version of a ‘Pearl Harbor,’ and acts equally irrational @at least, in the kabuki setting of events].

“Zionist Connections to the New Zealand Mosque Massacre”

“Christchurch Exposed by Ole Dammegard”
Source: https://lightonconspiracies.com/

Mass hysteria is the only explanation.

“GED score”

That’s pretty funny.

The idea of a white ethno-state is not a new concept. Fed government would never let it happen.

Spencer was a National Review editor and graduate of the University of Chicago. If you aren’t impressed with his writing, your GED score probably qualifies you for a management position at a Quizno’s franchise. You don’t know anything about the Alt-Right, the coinage of the title being the sole creation of Richard Spencer himself, so why do you leave yourself open to ridicule? Are you on meds for ADHD? What’s the point of your commentary?

The Demography of the Alt-Right

https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-demography-of-the-alt-right Archived link: http://archive.is/1nb5x

You’ll find few globalist oligarchs who would live in a ghetto any sooner than a Klavern of Klansman.

The left has the air time, the cable channels, the vast production budget to reach the mass.

The Left doesn’t simply “have” these things as if they had won them in the lottery. Oprah and Ellen make big money because this is what the mass wants. Traditional conservatism—which is the ultimate wellspring of the Alt-Right even though many current Alt-Righters seem to have forgotten that—is not and cannot ever be a popular opinion. It is necessarily a sentiment held by and for elites. The real elites of the intellect, that is; not the Globalist oligarchs who also are referred to as such.

You are right. I will mention you in my rosary, good sir.

Hi Internet Friends,
I hate to be a wet blanket or to pee on anyones parade, but the Alt-Right is controlled opposition. It is a propaganda project run out of Tel Aviv and Moscow and all of the presumed leaders are Jewish.
I have nothing against Jews as a people, but Bolshevism and Zionism have no place in western countries. Russia is still the Soviet Union under a different flag and a different map.
The primary purpose is to portray ant-Zionist and anti-Communists/Marxists as racist and bigots.
Period.
The Nazis were Marxists/Socialist. I am anti-Marxist and anti-Socialist. Therefore by default I’m anti-Nazi.
I don’t understand the preoccupation Europeans and their ethnic bretheren around the world have with Nazis and national-socialism.
Socialism must be stamped-out in ALL western countries.
The Alt-Right represent Zio-Bolshevism in it’s most oppressive form.
I hope so-called white-nationalists come to realize that promoting Nazism will get you genocided in a New York minute.
It’s like begging to by murdered by the Zionist state apparatus.
It’s time to move forward, not backward.

In other words it’s a Christian community, and I do think that Christian communities have a lot to offer, especially the impressive early type that was nearer to the time of Christ. They had a strong emphasis on personal ethics and family life (basically known for their honesty and reliability with Christians and non-Christians).

Miro23,

Post Roman European history is labeled as “the dark ages.” They were not dark, they were peaceful times dominated by Christianity. In truth, peaceful local Christian communities dominated Europe.

History will repeat itself. With the end of the world dominating US Empire, the overpowering nation state will lose its appear to humanity. Like after Rome, the regional city state will reappear as the seat of organization. In this new city arrangement, all its functions will be contracted out to privately owned enterprises. Suburbs and rural governments (police, fire, roads) will be privately owned by their residents (not a subsidiary function of some vertical state power).

The ideals of Christian philosophy will guide these cultures. The notion of force lawfully crushing bad behavior, will give way to idea of society building good idealistic community behavior.

Think Peace — Do No Harm — Maintain Hope, Life, Love, Truth, & Idealism — Art

One of the problems with the alt-right is that they cannot get the air time or summon up the production values of an Anderson Cooper or an Ellen Degeneres or Oprah, whose every single show has a cost of $100,000 and includes famous guests.

The alt-right, barring FOX, are just a bunch of guys sitting in a shoddy venue blabbing. Even Jared Taylor, whose points are quite valid, just seems to be doing his broadcasts out of his living room.

The left has the air time, the cable channels, the vast production budget to reach the mass.

If Spengler was simply describing an organic society, he could have come up with a more attractive name for it, couldn’t he?

He was not describing an organic society. He was outlining a practical plan of action for the modern world, for a nation that wanted to ensure its survival in an a Period of Contending States, when the entire economic and technological means of nations would be arrayed one against another in total war.

Spengler was and to my knowledge remains one of the only thinkers ever to address the economic and social problems of “Man and Technics” in a realistic way. That was the title of one of his books. He fully anticipated the carnage of the Second World War, and he denounced far in advance the catastrophe that would result from Western man sharing his technical expertise with non-Western races (he refer to such acts as “race-treason”). He also understood the vast social disruption that would result from advanced industrial production techniques subverting the place formerly held by “labor,” he anticipated that Communism would fall to consumer capitalism, and he foresaw the eventual cargo-culting of technology as decadent modern societies produced fewer and fewer first rate engineers who really understood the machines but masses of useless consumers who could not exist except by the productivity enabled by the machines. The entire history of the 20th and 21st centuries so far has done nothing but bear out the predictions of Spengler, so he is worth paying attention to.

Spengler was clear-headed enough to realize that, for us who must live in this modern age, the “organic society” is only a Beatrice. It is something the contemplation of which will lead us to beauty and truth and God, but not something we can actually possess in the here and now. The brutal facts of our time demand “Prussian Socialism”—a readiness and willingness to prevail against an enemy who uses the coldest, most abstract, and most technically advanced means to lay total waste to his foes.

The one nation in the world today actually practicing something like that is Russia. While Russia still has many problems, Vladimir Putin’s campaign against the oligarchs and the renewal of the Russian military provide a fleeting glimpse of the possibilities of Prussian Socialism in action. They are examples of the sort of deeds that must be accomplished by a Western “Caesar” in order to haul our own societies back from the brink.

I agree with your sentiments re Christianity and Western civilization, and that the Alt Right and European New Right are generally not predicated on this, but rather neo-paganism and darwinism.

K R Bolton,

How can we defend White people without being racist? (Sorry but many of these Alt-Right people in this article come across as closet racists.)

Clearly we must defend our culture – not our skin color.

Christian Western culture strives for knowledge, beauty, and a wonder that leads to prosperity.

Our science, music, art, and personal energy are unmatched elsewhere.

All these things billions of people want.

It is a fact that mostly White people accomplished this – we are more then willing to share.

Think Peace — Art

One major aspect of their success, is that they are voluntary.

In other words it’s a Christian community, and I do think that Christian communities have a lot to offer, especially the impressive early type that was nearer to the time of Christ. They had a strong emphasis on personal ethics and family life (basically known for their honesty and reliability with Christians and non-Christians).

Robin Lane Fox wrote a fine book about them “Pagans and Christians”. If communities like this reappeared, they would find the same kind of sleaze in the US that they encountered in the decadent and collapsing Late Roman Empire, but it was Christianity that survived and flourished while Paganism died.

How was that? The barbarian invaders converted to Christianity and brought it back to Northern Europe and the “Eastern Christianity” of Byzantium spread through the Middle East and North to Russia.

https://www.amazon.com/PAGANS-CHRISTIANS-Robin-Lane-Fox/dp/0394554957/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1533503380&sr=1-1&keywords=pagans+and+christians+robin+lane+fox

Anything ending in -ism is suspicious on its face.

And the intensity with which East Germans practised Communism (and National Socialism and imperialism and Lutheranism before it) and now miss it puts the adjective “Prussian” under suspicion as well.

If Spengler was simply describing an organic society, he could have come up with a more attractive name for it, couldn’t he?

Germans and Slavs– Prussians descended from the latter as much as the former– love being told what to do. Anglo-Saxons hate it. So what’s organic and “right wing” in one culture will look very different in another.

Few people on this site will ever give credit to the impact that Christianity had in establishing western civilization.

SBaker,

Exactly – it is amazing that so many good people have bought into the Jew Talmudic hateful anti-Christian agenda.

Clearly there is something very good and prosperous about Christian culture.

When Christianity goes haywire, is when it embraces the Jew Old Testament.

It is not complicated, when Christians in their daily life, freely stick with the philosophical words of Jesus – things bet better.

Think Peace — Do No Harm — Maintain Hope, Life, Love, Truth, & Idealism — Art

Good point about “Fanism” and the idiocy of the professional sports camp followers- particularly the morons who follow the NFL and the NBA. A total and utter waste of mental space, and especially degenerative for the descendants of European Christendom. To think we used to look up to men like Charlemagne, Napoleon, Generals Grant and Lee, Charles Lindbergh Jr. (and senior for that matter), Nikola Tesla, Thomas Edison, Charles Dickens and Beethoven. Now any hopping and jumping dolt who can push a ball through a basket or dodge defenders somehow becomes heroic. Gresham’s Law applies to culture as well: mediocre and even criminal role models drive out good and great ones.

Miro23,

Despite its many grubby preachers, priests, and potentates, Western Christianity has delivered prosperity.

Christ’s philosophical words deliver a volitional set of ideals – these ideals actuate an ever better evolving more prosperous culture.

These volitional ideals are – live with hope – life is sacred – love your neighbor – seek the truth – forgive the past – extend grace to all. One major aspect of their success, is that they are voluntary. Using government force to implement these ideals always backfires.

The secular West without voluntary Christian idealism will decline into tribalness. End of story.

Think Peace — Do No Harm — Maintain Hope, Love, Truth, & Idealism — Art

The Alt-Right has a huge problem – it is not defending Christian Western culture – the very best thing about us, is our culture – not our skin.
We need to be defending Christianity and the culture it produced – not white skin color.

The Christian idea is surely long gone (at least in Western Europe). The last time it was fashionable to “be received” into the (Catholic) church was probably the 1920’s.

The religion of the 1930’s onwards was Communism with members of the intellectual elite fashionably “joining” the Party with its God (Stalin), and dogma (Marxism), to fight the Devil (Hitler) and his works (Fascism) – never mind that revolutionary Communism was just as totalitarian with its Gulags and liquidation of “class enemies”.

The interesting thing, is that Communism has also now gone (1989 collapse of the Soviet Union), with the world’s leftists morphing into Capitalists or finding a refuge in socially destructive Counter-Cultural identity politics, or now, increasingly turning on their Neocon “friends”.

Recommended on the Christian foundations of Europe: Christopher Dawson, “Religion and the Rise of Western Culture”.

I agree with you both. If we look at America and the impact Christians had in its founding the results were astounding. If we only had a complete list I would cite it, but to name just a couple, think of higher education, hospitals, the declaration of independence, ……….98% of the European founders were Christian.

Few people on this site will ever give credit to the impact that Christianity had in establishing western civilization.

“Prussian socialism”? I can’t think of too many things that sound more un-American.

However, one particular shard of that political philosophy did make it to America and take root– the public school. Fat lot of good that did us.

You don’t seem to have any idea what the term refers to. Prussian Socialism has nothing to do with schooling, public or otherwise. Its meaning, as Spengler coined it, was economic. It specifically refers to the economics of advanced, industrial societies sans ideology. By focusing on the physical facts of production and consumption rather than on the unit of account, it avoids both the waste and criminality of American oligo-capitalist cronyism and the stifling, world-alien charade of Marxism, but without falling into the Ludditism that tends to follow close on the heels of distributistism.

There were elements of it in Mussolini’s fascism, but the heart of it delves deep into the old land values of the physiocrats and the political economy of Friedrich List.

Thanks, K. R. I wish the alt-Right folks well. We could use fresh thinking that helps solve problems. But, I’ll tell you how things look in my part of NE Ohio.

Richard Spencer’s bid to speak at a college campus about forty miles west of me was chewed up by university pushback and legalities. Maybe he’s low on cash, maybe he found a better engagement. My Democrat Congressman is a standard-issue “liberal” carrying water for the Democrats’ national central committee. He’s in a safe seat and young enough he could still be Congressman in 2050. The Republican Congressman in the district just south of me is likewise in a safe seat.

Their opponents have completely overlooked an astonishing alt-Rightish issue that’s in my local paper. That is the apparent deliberate corporate recruitment of 3,000 Quiche-speaking Guatemalans into a county of about 100,000 population. Many work in a meat packing plant. You don’t have to be alt-Right, redneck, or anything to raise a modest public question about how that came to be and what it means. The incumbents won’t touch it, neither will their opponents.

There’s a local blue-collar guy who’s a big Trump fan boy. Very alert and articulate, he landed a few national interviews after Trump visited here. He’s a one-man band, though. A few local Democrats for Trump grumbled about do-nothing unions when asked why they voted Trump. There’s a prominent local woman, a Republican I think, who Black-bashed a bit when mentioning her support of Trump, and got caught by a gotcha journalist. She dialed back her statements.

I’ll guess the midterm election will be a very rough proxy for whether President Trump has coattails, and likewise, whether the alt-Right, as I understand it, has the potential to be more than a blog ‘n’ comment gig.

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I agree with your sentiments re Christianity and Western civilization, and that the Alt Right and European New Right are generally not predicated on this, but rather neo-paganism and darwinism. I suppose the review could have been made a thousand words longer to address the matter. I consider the Christian foundations of the West in my own book, The Decline and Fall of Civilisations (Black House Publishing, London, 2018).

In the USA Benjamin H Freedman and Henry Klein endured much in confronting the Jewish agenda, and supporting nationalists. It is forgotten history that there were many Jews in Weimar Germany that participated in German-Jewish nationalist and veterans’ association, that abhorred both Communism and Zionism, that the head of the Stahlhelm was a Jew, that prior to Hitler few German-Jews supported Zionism, and regarded themselves as Germans of Jewish descent, not as Jews in Germany, and that German-Jews, certain allegations to the contrary, generally had an impressive war record.

That is mostly true of ‘German’ Jews and by German Jews I mean those Jews who had been in Germany for many generations…..not the East European Jews, particularly the Polish Jews who had immigrated to Germany.

BUT …….you do not want to do this:

Dr MacDonald concludes that “In guarded optimism, we might look to the future and hope that some influential Jews… come to see that their own best interests lie with a renewed European America.”

Because in the US (and Israel) you are not dealing with German Jews in the Jewish influential cabal—–you are dealing with Eastern European Jews primarily from Poland, Austria-Hungary, and Romania—-they are the 2 million Jews that came into the US between 1890 and 1924 —-and they are whole different breed of cats—-they are from the hardcore zionist jewish ‘supremacy’ pockets of Europe. It was this East European Jewish wave that started to infiltrate US government and academia. If you do the bios of the most influential US Jews you will see that 99% of them are East European……not Germans.

The German Jews came to US in the mid 1800s and did not settle in metro ghettos, they dispersed thruout the country. The German Jews that left Germany during the run up to WWII went mainly first to France and then to South America, not the US, as immigration to the US was very restricted at that time.

My point is….Do Not invite these Jews into your tent….these Eastern European Jews have been the ‘internationals ‘ and traveling locust herd that every country has suffered from.

“Prussian socialism”? I can’t think of too many things that sound more un-American.

However, one particular shard of that political philosophy did make it to America and take root– the public school. Fat lot of good that did us.

We’re homeschooling our kids. That’s illegal in today’s Prussia, by the way.

“Deconstructing a group’s identity as entirely negative is a precursor to politically, economically, and physically destroying that group.” (Hood, p. 8).

Of course it is.

And as French writer Jean Francois Revel wrote,…… “Clearly, a civilization that feels guilty for everything it is and does will lack the energy and conviction to defend itself.”…….. is another tactic being used to destroy white culture and the US…..the constant drumbeat of condemning the evil white man.

I am however not too worried about whites being replaced in the end ….history as a guide will confirm one thing they accuse us of …..that we many white Europeans, Irish, Scots, etc., are descended from are the violent, war loving Celtic and Viking barbarians that populated Europe …..conquest is our history.
So there will be wars of sorts when whites can no longer tolerate the chattering mass that hates us.