Looked up the Admiral’s bio. He’s not an Annapolis grad (Notre Dame, econ major) yet he made Admiral. Very difficult.
Naval aviator. 4,500 hours no mishaps. More than 1,000 carrier-arrested landings. This guy was quite skilled.
You “have been alerted to the fact?” That a Google search on …
Did you do/try it yourself?
I didn’t read past your first line.
I alert you to the fact that you sound like a fraud.
His stoic sons all had rare genetics, enabling them to fearlessly face mother nature on her terms of indifference, as they would consistently surf and survive, some of our planet's meanest and most unforgiving waves.
Can’t find any info about his children. Care to share ?
Surfing ? Really..?
I was actually seeking some further information on your earlier statements here:
Sad stuff happened to some of their children, that was eerily unexplainable.
Always had a sense that dark geopolitical forces were responsible for the progeny’s untimely fates.
Or did you, for some reason, purposely misunderstand ?
Can’t find any info about his children. Care to share ?
His stoic sons all had rare genetics, enabling them to fearlessly face mother nature on her terms of indifference, as they would consistently surf and survive, some of our planet’s meanest and most unforgiving waves.
Code Red!
…..
Or did you, for some reason, purposely misunderstand ?
Sad stuff happened to some of their children, that was eerily unexplainable.Always had a sense that dark geopolitical forces were responsible for the progeny’s untimely fates.
Do you have any sources for that?
Was Stearney about to bestir himself and spill the beans on something?
Seasoned Assassins
At critical moments in U.S. relations with the Arab world and Israel there has invariably been some one person who has seen the problem in full perspective, bestirred himself, and attempted to tell the story to the American public. Equally invariably, like the wolf at the head of the pack, he has been forthrightly shot down, his pen or voice stilled, and the gaping vacuum once more becomes apparent.
(Alfred M. Lilienthal, op. cit.
Was Stearney about to bestir himself and spill the beans on something?
Maybe he was open to blackmail? Maybe he was informed that there would be an “Event”, involving his 5th Fleet in the Persian Gulf – and he should prepare to attack Iran?
Could be that he was facing impossible choices.
The guy was eliminated because he passed on information about US (CIA)-Saudi financing of terror groups in the ME (Syria) to a female “journalist” who also just happened to have been recently eliminated in a car “accident”. Enraged elements of the CIA blame this revelation as a contributing factor in Trump’s pull-out of their Syria project, so efforts were undertaken to prevent further damaging leaks. Meanwhile, they’ve convinced Trump to slow down the withdrawal with the ultimate aim of reversing it.
Was Stearney about to bestir himself and spill the beans on something?
Seasoned Assassins
At critical moments in U.S. relations with the Arab world and Israel there has invariably been some one person who has seen the problem in full perspective, bestirred himself, and attempted to tell the story to the American public. Equally invariably, like the wolf at the head of the pack, he has been forthrightly shot down, his pen or voice stilled, and the gaping vacuum once more becomes apparent.
(Alfred M. Lilienthal, op. cit.
“Was Stearney about to bestir himself and spill the beans on something?” Do you really expect an answer to that?
Truth-hammer says: “I was never a believer in ‘conspiracy theories’ or even considered them– until the Russia Collusion Illusion sedition conspiracy directed against POTUS Trump.”
Well congrats on starting to wake up! Warning! It’s a long, traumatic trip down the rabbit hole,but well worth it, in my opinion. Isn’t it just great to be considered a total nutjob by most of “humanity”? 🙂
regards onebornfree
http://onebornfree-mythbusters.blogspot.com/
Knew the family fairly well.
Admiral George E. R. Kinnear II
source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_E._R._Kinnear_II
Can’t find any info about his children. Care to share ?
His stoic sons all had rare genetics, enabling them to fearlessly face mother nature on her terms of indifference, as they would consistently surf and survive, some of our planet's meanest and most unforgiving waves.
Can’t find any info about his children. Care to share ?
I was never a believer in ‘conspiracy theories’ or even considered them– until the Russia Collusion Illusion sedition conspiracy directed against POTUS Trump.
I realized that if Hillary had become POTUS, none of the seditious treachery campaign against POTUS Trump nor our government’s involvement (FBI, DOJ, NSA, CIA, et al) would have ever come to light.
Sparkon says: “I don’t dispute your characterization of either Roosevelt or Hitler, or even the notion that FDR played some role in advancing a modern highway system in the United States, but FDR’s reputed visit to Germany in the 1930s is a new one on me for which I can find no reference, and so I must ask for a source.”
Oops, my bad. On briefly checking I also can find no reference to Roosevelt officially visiting Germany in the ’30’s at this time. Sorry for that.
On further checking it seems that the German autobahn system actually pre-dates Hitler, he just greatly expanded the idea, then Eisenhower was stationed in Germany during WW2 and was impressed with what he saw and expanded the same idea in the US – an idea that was already “blossoming”, having itself started in a small way in the US as far back as 1925,[ if not earlier].
See : https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Report_of_Joint_Board_on_Interstate_Highways_October_30,_1925
Regards, onebornfree.
The US Interstate highway system, although built in 1956, had its origins in the 1930′s, when the crook Roosevelt visited the crook Hitler in Germany.
Really? Do you have a source for this? My understanding is that FDR visited Germany with his family in the 1890s while the future president (b. 1882) was still a child.
His Wikipedia article notes that he attended school in Germany as a youth, but I know of no visit to Germany in the 1930s by FDR, and Wikipedia doesn’t mention one either.
Frequent trips to Europe—he made his first excursion at the age of two and went with his parents every year from the ages of seven to fifteen—helped Roosevelt become conversant in German and French. At age nine he attended public school in Germany.
The usual story is that Gen. Dwight David Eisenhower saw the German autobahns in the immediate post-war period in his capacity as Supreme Allied Commander, and decided similar highways were needed in the United States to facilitate the movement of military units and equipment in the event of an attack on the United States.
I don’t dispute your characterization of either Roosevelt or Hitler, or even the notion that FDR played some role in advancing a modern highway system in the United States, but FDR’s reputed visit to Germany in the 1930s is a new one on me for which I can find no reference, and so I must ask for a source.
If parsimony rules, then it shouldn't take you 1900 words of (entirely unconvincing) special pleading to try to make your case.
Occam’s Razor IMO is hard to exclude here.
[...]
Where is it? A photo of 2 entrance holes on Boorda’s chest would be nice.,
Well, the thing is, the M-16 wasn't available in appreciable numbers for the Air Force until about 1970. In 1964, I qualified during basic training with the M-14. In 1970, I qualified as expert again, this time with the M-16.
This ribbon was authorized by the Secretary of the Air Force on Aug. 28, 1962. It is awarded to all Air Force service members who, after Jan. 1, 1963, qualify as "expert" in small-arms marksmanship with either the M-16 rifle or issue handgun.
CRITERIA Qualify as expert in small-arms marksmanship with either the M-16 rifle or issue handgun.
Since you’re being hostile , Look here ping r man. I had to go into 2 long post posts to disassemble your link of the “‘you know what” theory which was connected to a couple other sources of “you know what” theory. Glad I noted I figured I was prolly wasting my time on you and your link and didn’t go into finding old source citations, cleaning in up and making it concise would have wasted a hour or two.
Now as other people have noted Adm. Boorda’s two V’s in question are/were considered combat awards, so wearing those unauthorized is far more serious than you wearing, say an unauthorized Penmanship Award in the Air Force. I guess it would do no good to bother to explain to you what other servicemen/veterans think of anyone wearing unauthorized combat awards , but that was the dilemma Boorda was facing if/when Hackett went public with it. Occam’s razor in this case = Suicide Solution.
I guess you missed all the clues in all my “parsimony” 😉 about being a Veteran myself . I talked more of being a contractor for the USN , because in reality at the time Boorda was my “commander’ given the articles I signed particular to my position and the ship I was on. Anywhoo years before all that , I, shot, drove and slept on and banged on TANKS for 5 years active in the Army(was fun) and 3 in the National Guard which I count about about like Air force service (apologies to all Guard and AF dudes here).
Now I’ll waste a paragraph LOL going into some yadaa yadda biggus dickus vet contest you seem to want , I got six hangers on my Army Expert Marksmanship badge(you can only hang 3 ) and I’ll guess 14 dinky medals (with orders, 2 without) and 3-4 other ribbons, and IDK on unit citations because who counts them? And the government considers me a veteran of two wars (we won both, hint) but I never fired a shot and dang sure would not call myself a combat vet, but the dam government did put me in a “war zone” for 45-50? days, so whatever they label me a war vet.
Dang You got me posting too long , wont happen again with you , Have a nice day, regards
Bill Jones says: “…The Internet Highway system, implemented by an ex CEO of General motors was the corrupt use of tax payer dollars to kill off the existing railway system…..”
The US Interstate highway system, although built in 1956, had its origins in the 1930’s, when the crook Roosevelt visited the crook Hitler in Germany and was impressed by the said crooks autobahn system and decided to model a US system on Hitler’s own criminal road system.
The the official excuse for the US system at the time was the need for a way of for the rapid ground transport of heavy military equipment from coast to coast.
The highways were thus initially built to military specs, with curves, cambers and gradients that were deemed suitable for the transport of heavy military equipment, such as tanks on tank transporters.
Of course there was no constitutional provision for such a system, but even by the 1930’s, as Mencken observed at the time, the constitution was a dead letter.
Gotta love our “unconstitutional” Nazi road system! 🙂 [“Just” another criminal, government scam. ]
And so it goes….
Reagards, onebornfree
http://onebornfree-mythbusters.blogspot.com/
Really? Do you have a source for this? My understanding is that FDR visited Germany with his family in the 1890s while the future president (b. 1882) was still a child.
The US Interstate highway system, although built in 1956, had its origins in the 1930′s, when the crook Roosevelt visited the crook Hitler in Germany.
The usual story is that Gen. Dwight David Eisenhower saw the German autobahns in the immediate post-war period in his capacity as Supreme Allied Commander, and decided similar highways were needed in the United States to facilitate the movement of military units and equipment in the event of an attack on the United States.
Frequent trips to Europe—he made his first excursion at the age of two and went with his parents every year from the ages of seven to fifteen—helped Roosevelt become conversant in German and French. At age nine he attended public school in Germany.
Occam’s Razor IMO is hard to exclude here.
[…]
Where is it? A photo of 2 entrance holes on Boorda’s chest would be nice.,
If parsimony rules, then it shouldn’t take you 1900 words of (entirely unconvincing) special pleading to try to make your case.
You are not even a veteran yet you seem to have great passion about this relatively minor issue of service ribbon devices, and seem to think as well that you have unique insights about the case from your perspective as a civilian contractor.
Get real. There is absolutely no evidence that Boorda was depressed or experiencing great shame or any shame at all because of one or two relatively minor transgressions with his fruit salad that he had corrected already a year earlier.
My own fruit salad earned in two tours of duty with the USAF during the Vietnam era includes service ribbons for good conduct, longevity, national defense, and expert small arms marksmanship. However…
This ribbon was authorized by the Secretary of the Air Force on Aug. 28, 1962. It is awarded to all Air Force service members who, after Jan. 1, 1963, qualify as “expert” in small-arms marksmanship with either the M-16 rifle or issue handgun.
CRITERIA Qualify as expert in small-arms marksmanship with either the M-16 rifle or issue handgun.
Well, the thing is, the M-16 wasn’t available in appreciable numbers for the Air Force until about 1970. In 1964, I qualified during basic training with the M-14. In 1970, I qualified as expert again, this time with the M-16.
Was I authorized to wear the expert marksmanship ribbon on my dress blues from 1964 to 1970? My DI at Lackland AFB said I was, and so I did.
Similarly, after my overseas office was awarded the Outstanding Section Award, our NCOIC told us we were henceforth authorized to wear the Outstanding Unit Award service ribbon. Typically, there are various so-called “barracks lawyers” who dispense advice good and bad that arises from casual, non-official interpretations of various orders and/or regulations, some oral, which may be unclear or ambiguous.
Meanwhile, for reasons known only to itself, the Navy has not released the results of Adm. Boorda’s autopsy, perhaps (not really) to cover up innumeracy among Navy corpsmen, as you suggest, but more plausibly to conceal the nature and number of Adm. Boorda’s wounds.
Boorda committed suicide a week after David Hackworth interviewed him about his medals that had not been earned. Particularly a combat V on a bronze star that was earned for service aboard ship, not in combat,.
LOL, The Navy still has not lived that one down. Dang , I would put that video in the early 80’s but you are right 1978, dang I feel old.
Let me know now: Is the US navy gay or not?
it was made 1n 1978, just because?
it was forced on me by my ex , she could not have it where she moved. So I inherited a 10 kg monster cat with the kindest behavior you could ask. (Except other cats) He is now 14 years old and my trusty friend.
Addendum: How the MSM explains (excuses) how Bulger was never recognized for the sixteen years he was on the loose.
This level of obfuscation – with a full piece in Psychology Today – itself screams “Deep State.”
Ironically, Mueller himself now finds himself in much the same position as his former partner in crime Whitey Bulger – he knows far too much for many people’s comfort, especially the Clintons.
Mueller would probably not survive very long if the Clintons regain a measure of power under a Democratic administration.
Friedrich List said, “Essential infrastructure is vital to the wellbeing and security of the nation and is thus too important to be left to the whims of profit”. The US did quite well when following List’s principles of a mixed economy. Some things are better when controlled by the free market and others by government. It is the lack of severe penalties for corrupt government officials that is the main problem and I suggest this would change should corrupt behaviour be equated as treason and punishable as such.
I have my own water and sewage systems.[…]If you are going to be hanging around at Unz you should try to get acquainted with reality otherwise [blah blah blah f-bomb blah blah blah]
I take it then the reality with which you think I should get acquainted is the one where everyone has their own water and sewage systems, just like you?
Your reality sounds not only highly impractical, but also more than just a little bit elitist.
https://www.menshealth.com/health/a20944664/police-officer-suicide-rate-mental-health/
But despite departments’ efforts to hire mentally healthy candidates, enlisted officers still kill themselves at the same rate as the general population. In 2016, 108 cops across the country took their own lives, according to Badge of Life, a nonprofit organization that tracks police suicides; according to a 2018 study from the Ruderman Family Foundation, the number of police officers who died by suicide was more than triple that of officers who were fatally shot in the line of duty.
“Rossi, who was 55, was just two days from pinning on his third star and taking command of Army Space and Missile Command…”
Yes, I can see how he would be despondent…
Believe it or not, I fully agree with you. All medals should be treated with respect, and medals for actual combat service _must+ be treated with respect if the military society is to be functional, and I’m seriously sad that they aren’t.
Counterinsurgency
I respect your arguments but any time a medal with the “V” designation is worn it should merit special attention if it is indeed part of the aide’s responsibility. I am not familiar with Navy decorations but I do know there is a big difference in the army’s award of the “V” device on the Bronze Star. The “V” device was only awarded for valor in actual combat whereas the plain Bronze Star was awarded just for being in the theater of operations perhaps as a clerk-typist.
Are you sure it's 100%? This Internet thingy was a government project. So was/is the Interstate Highway System. Airports, hospitals, fire departments, sanitation and sewage systems -- to mention just a few -- all rely to a greater or lesser extent on some government's ability to tax the citizens who benefit from these public services, but you -- and others here -- seem to be saying that'd we'd be better off without all the services since we're the ones paying for them.Anyway, assuming for the sake of argument that your comment is accurate, what is your recommended solution?Specifics please, not vague platitudes or shop-worn clichés: How do we build and enjoy public services without some government or governing body in charge?
all governments are essentially, at their very cores, 100% corrupt criminal scams.
The internet thingy was not a government project, merely the initial network technology: which btw piggybacked off the phone system: a privately developed technology.
The Internet Highway system, implemented by an ex CEO of General motors was the corrupt use of tax payer dollars to kill off the existing railway system.
You would benefit from listening to
https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-310-rise-of-the-oiligarchs/
Airports, hospitals, fire departments all existed prior to their usurpation by the State: the latter by the way still are the predominant providers, most fireman in the US are volunteers.
I have my own water and sewage systems.
If you are going to be hanging around at Unz you should try to get acquainted with reality otherwise fuck-off back to whichever Statist hell hole you call home.
I take it then the reality with which you think I should get acquainted is the one where everyone has their own water and sewage systems, just like you? Your reality sounds not only highly impractical, but also more than just a little bit elitist.
I have my own water and sewage systems.[...]If you are going to be hanging around at Unz you should try to get acquainted with reality otherwise [blah blah blah f-bomb blah blah blah]
The fact that women tend to use the least disfiguring methods tends to belie Mr Simon’s view.
Any citations to support your inference?I too am a veteran, and I've never heard of anyone being thrown out of any service for improper wearing of service ribbons. Indeed, Boorda wasn't busted or thrown out of the USN when informed by the Navy that the embellishments were unauthorized, but rather, he simply stopped wearing the embellishments.In any event, according to his Wikipedia article, Boorda had verbal authorization from Adm. Zumwalt to wear one of the embellishments.
As it can be inferred from Boorda’s various levels of commands he would have signed off on many discharges of sailors and Marines being busted or thrown out of the Navy for exactly what he did(improper wearing of awards)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Michael_BoordaAh so, rather than being busted or thrown out of the Navy, Boorda simply stopped wearing the two tiny 'v' embellishments on two of his service ribbons after being informed that he wasn't authorized to wear them, and this already at least a year before Newsweek began its investigation, and well before his alleged suicide.The facts don't add up to support the finding that Boorda killed himself. He was in good spirits, and the alleged motive of shame had already expired. Did he really shoot himself in the chest...twice?The pertinent question is whether or not the alleged anger of senior Navy staff officers toward Boorda because of Tailhook had expired. In other words, did anyone have a motive to kill the Admiral?
However, Boorda stopped wearing the two "V" devices on these two service ribbons about a year before the Hackworth investigation, after Boorda had been informed by the Navy that he was not authorized to wear them.
http://theamericanchronicle.blogspot.com/2014/03/the-murder-of-admiral-jeremy-boorda.html
What the Navy has hidden is that the CNO was murdered. MacDonald obtained the witness of one Chief Medical Corpsman who stated that he saw 2 bullet holes in Boorda’s body. The official story is that Boorda shot himself in the chest with a hollow point bullet, but the truth is that his murderer killed him with 2 shots to the chest.
All persons who knew Boorda were shocked by the “suicide.”
As to the “V medal” thing. Yes of course Boorda was not thrown out for the V’s . And no, in and of itself , any sailor or service “person” wearing unauthorized devices , as you might know from being a military veteran of some sort , might well be just chewed out or they might might face UCMJ action which depending on their commanders, and what else they might have been accumulated from being wrote up and earlier UCMJ’s can lead to a discharge . Sorta like the “3 strikes law” but in the military a ‘”sailor” might get away , get busted numerous times or maybe just once and boom out the door, In the Army , the 3rd counseling statement was usually the line for UCMJ action , but it is all situational, command dependent and luck too IMO.
As to being able to site a person’s name now or specific acts 2o+ years after the fact? I am sorry I can’t, and honestly am wary as of yet if this is a action to dismiss what I am saying . All I can say is yes I do recall an incident mentioned in the ‘Navy Times” about a “problem” sailor being caught for unauthorized wear of something om Guam I do not recall. And that sailor being “chaptered out” for it . Can I recall his name or a periodical number date or page?, nope. Can I recall in what function this would have passed across Boorda’s desk or his position at the time?, Nope, But I remember that instance happening because it was a glaring example of hypocrisy on Boorda’s part , given the timing and attention of all this stuff I had at time. As I noted I was greatly interested in Boorda , his suicide and that whole Hackett medal incident , so such a minor event , I noted it because it was a concrete black mark , that simply could not be dismissed, though it was never noted/connected publicly in anything. IIRC!,, maybe Hackett mentioned something to this effect, It has been a long time , and sadly my memory of 20-25 year old details, snippets and ect.’s, is not up to MLA- Turabian footnote standards.
But it doesn’t matter , if you think a General Officer of the O-9 rank with 40 years of service as a commanding officer or a reviewing/board officer never once wrote up ,or signed off , on a UCMJ action of a lower rank service member for uniform violations which either directly or indirectly contributed to that lower service member being dismissed. Or as CNO of the entire Navy never wrote , reviewed on signed off on the various and numerous SOPS issued about making ‘paper” on uniform violations , just believe what I said is bull. Firsthand, I saw cases while in the army done by far lower rank officers numerous times. As well I read of the incident I mentioned and others, in passing, taking place in the Navy while I was working as a USN/USMC civilian contractor.
Anyway , Boorda , by wearing those V and then by action admitting guilt by removing them , and going on for years , do you think that might not have “ate’ at him inside . Anyone with a shred of honor it would have . And yes , I do remember reading Zumwalt’s “expost facto ”
damage control opinion and even the general Navy’s opinion of such V’s even before Boorda’s suicide and long before Zumwalt announced publicly about Boorda being “authorized” to wear them, since those V’s basically were a “gimme” on Navy Bronze stars in Vietnam for officers in similar positions to Boorda at the time.
Doesn’t matter , on paper , or rather the lack of paper called Orders which give you the authorization to wear such things, Boorda walked around for a while being what is known as a PX Warrior. He did not have paper for them, therefor he did not have them , and he wore them anyway.
And , IMO it is of real note he took them off , and at the same time he was the top guy and obviously is supposed to “set the example” for the entire Navy and Corps. And then for whatever personal reason he removed them, but he was photographed wearing them and then later here comes Hackworth , with his reputation for exposing such stuff to the US public . Yep , I can see that as quite possibly causing intense internal conflict and stress and guilt in a man such as Boorda, even if everyone one around him according to that site’s 3rd person ? hearsay”statements that said they were “surprised” at his suicide , well? No Duh. It happens in a lot of suicide cases. And this happy and “looking forward” to retirement ? Yes , alot of servicemen (PC police here I am) look at getting out of the military as a happy day, but it as well brings stress, uncertainty, fear, and depression to many that they will be “out of job” or more actually out of something they LOVED to do all their life and now it will be gone . It happens. There is also, from what I heard/read in the army, in the case of 30+plus years military retirees, “most” or “more than half” don’t live 5 years after they retire . In the Army , I heard even half of 20 years retirees don’t last 5 years.
I don’t know if that is statistically true , but it has a ring to it, and that “die 5 years after retiring”did scare a lot of the dudes I knew with Vietnam combat patches back in the 80’s like my grizzled platoon and First sergeants as they approached retirement. Midlife crisis on top of it all as well
In Boorda’s case , I looked at his position, his past, and the numerous SEVERE stress factors hitting him all at once as being a “perfect storm” that led to his suicide . Junk was coming at him from many directions even from inside himself.
Occam’s Razor IMO is hard to exclude here. trading Boorda’s suicide for a Chem trail “conspiracy” whoops, or a top secret murderous homosexual general officer’s club, or all gay Navy pilots association, or some statement/claims given of a now dead supposed IDK? Marine “secret agent ” by his WIFE , to an internet misinformation agent(Military Corruption’s Glen M- though you can find “pieces of truth there , if you know what is missing LOL) just does not cut it , without a lot of “first-hand” refuting evidence . Where is it? A photo of 2 entrance holes on Boorda’s chest would be nice.,
Regards,
If parsimony rules, then it shouldn't take you 1900 words of (entirely unconvincing) special pleading to try to make your case.
Occam’s Razor IMO is hard to exclude here.
[...]
Where is it? A photo of 2 entrance holes on Boorda’s chest would be nice.,
Well, the thing is, the M-16 wasn't available in appreciable numbers for the Air Force until about 1970. In 1964, I qualified during basic training with the M-14. In 1970, I qualified as expert again, this time with the M-16.
This ribbon was authorized by the Secretary of the Air Force on Aug. 28, 1962. It is awarded to all Air Force service members who, after Jan. 1, 1963, qualify as "expert" in small-arms marksmanship with either the M-16 rifle or issue handgun.
CRITERIA Qualify as expert in small-arms marksmanship with either the M-16 rifle or issue handgun.
Well, it's mighty gracious of you to favor us with your valuable insights and your delusions of grandeur. In your paid work, do you charge extra for those cool clichés when followed by an awesome smiley, or is that just a standard gratuity?
All I’m prepared to do “for free” is to perhaps get persons like yourself to understand the true core nature of the governments they all mostly worship and adore, nothing more.
Sparkon says: “Ah so. We should have built the Interstates with “voluntarism” you say?”
And heeeeeeere’s another free smiley for ya: 🙂
regards, onebornfree
David Martin says: “Have the media unanimously covered up the truth about 9/11?”
This just in : the media were directly involved in the claimed events of 9/11.
On the morning of 9/11 all 5 US nationwide MSM incs.[ABC,CBS,CNN, Fox, NBC] broadcast 100% fabricated [ i.e fake] computer generated imagery of a plane strike [ Fl.175 into WTC2] , and later on the collapses of WTC2 , then WTC 1.
Those 100% fake “live” broadcasts lasted 102 minutes, all told, as has been exposed by lone 9/11 researcher Simon Shack in his 2008 video series “September Clues” :
Here is an addendum to “September Clues”, which clearly reveals, via close, detailed, frame by frame analysis, the complete fraudulence of all of the original, as aired, mainstream news networks “live” 9/11, broadcasts; complete with impossible scenery perspectives, impossible building dimensions, fake “view from helicopter” shots, and an impossibly mobile bridge:
Regards, onebornfree
Any citations to support your inference?I too am a veteran, and I've never heard of anyone being thrown out of any service for improper wearing of service ribbons. Indeed, Boorda wasn't busted or thrown out of the USN when informed by the Navy that the embellishments were unauthorized, but rather, he simply stopped wearing the embellishments.In any event, according to his Wikipedia article, Boorda had verbal authorization from Adm. Zumwalt to wear one of the embellishments.
As it can be inferred from Boorda’s various levels of commands he would have signed off on many discharges of sailors and Marines being busted or thrown out of the Navy for exactly what he did(improper wearing of awards)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Michael_BoordaAh so, rather than being busted or thrown out of the Navy, Boorda simply stopped wearing the two tiny 'v' embellishments on two of his service ribbons after being informed that he wasn't authorized to wear them, and this already at least a year before Newsweek began its investigation, and well before his alleged suicide.The facts don't add up to support the finding that Boorda killed himself. He was in good spirits, and the alleged motive of shame had already expired. Did he really shoot himself in the chest...twice?The pertinent question is whether or not the alleged anger of senior Navy staff officers toward Boorda because of Tailhook had expired. In other words, did anyone have a motive to kill the Admiral?
However, Boorda stopped wearing the two "V" devices on these two service ribbons about a year before the Hackworth investigation, after Boorda had been informed by the Navy that he was not authorized to wear them.
http://theamericanchronicle.blogspot.com/2014/03/the-murder-of-admiral-jeremy-boorda.html
What the Navy has hidden is that the CNO was murdered. MacDonald obtained the witness of one Chief Medical Corpsman who stated that he saw 2 bullet holes in Boorda’s body. The official story is that Boorda shot himself in the chest with a hollow point bullet, but the truth is that his murderer killed him with 2 shots to the chest.
All persons who knew Boorda were shocked by the “suicide.”
You are pulling from an article at the American Chronicle by Tony Bonn, Now that, like this UNZ article I think is pulling from the same place Military Corruption. The article here at UNZ it is fair to guess gets its basis for the Sterney side athttp://militarycorruption.com/usn/stearney-scott/.
now I am sure Glen McDonald (editor of Mil Corruption) has an article (or several) about his Boorda theories , which might explain the aside mention in the article here of Booda’s suicide and this current death (which I don’t if it was a suicide or murder ) either way two deaths does not a link make by themselves.
Please note , I will only go as far as I can be certain of , to do justice to discussing the myriads details involved would demand literally days to reconstruct the chain of events, timing of both the V scandal and as well the details of the days of Boorda’s suicide. I spent those days 20+ years ago , and won’t spend that much time going back just to bury Glem McDonald’s “conspiracy theories” that are based on what the wife of another guy who had he own “conspiracy theories” about Boorda’s death and the whole he was murdered because he” Boorda” got in the way of some
” She states that it is nearly impossible to rise to colonel / commander or above without participating in the gay sex rituals which dominate the upper reaches of the US Navy.”
because Tailhook was not about some dyke being offended at being grouped at the yearly carrier’s pilots frat party/drinking binge/orgy in Las Vegas. Why would a Dyke go to a party with hundreds of druink navy officer’s except to start a big pro-LBGT (anti-whitew anti male destroy the navy PC scandal
But instead tainhook was about a “secret group of Filed Grade homosexuals in the Navy LOL
Realize Glen McDonald is a disinformation agent. He does include alot of truth in some of his stuff , but then he throws in weird shit like that. That actually covers up what Tailhook was about (Some Dyke wanting to disgrace all them TOP-GUN Navy Alpha MALE all-American women-banging captian American/Tom Cruise /types that are carrier pilots. Ever meet them? They ain’t homo’s
So Glen McDonald, in this case is pushing misinformation about some bogus homo ring killing Boorda to cover themselves rather than the actual lesbian busting up the Navy Carrier officer clique and their “famous ” party they threw every year.
He (Glen McDonaldld ) did the same thing when it came with the USS Fitzgerald collision, using “bull” instead of looking at the actual cause, An incompetent white female at odds with an incompetent black female with an inc ompetent black male ‘harassing her”(and probably banging one or both IDK-demands more research, all three present on the bridge that night, and none of them doing or able to do their jobs. Mc Donald ignored and certainly didn’t mention the racial and sexual aspects that lead to that collusion , I wrote him and called him out on it.
But i digress, Back to the article you site – or he Boorda was killed becuase he was going to expose the “Chemtrails” thing which I still don’t fathom what chemtrails is about , or he was going to expose the “scandal”of the Clinton admin/ the Navy/US giving guns to Bosnian Moslems( some “scandal” as it was publicly known at the time)
That article you site and its parent just throws alot of “mud” and hopes something sticks
Anyway the article you site and its parent article make several reaching assumptions and insertions of misinformation if you didn’t notice them.
A couple other things here; notice the use of 2 “bullet holes”. The things is ,an entrance wound and an exit wound could be counted as “two” “bullet” “holes” , So that line is not any absolute proof but Tony Bonn and Glen McDonald (hate he has the same last name as the great Occident Quarterly publisher) treat it that way ) run with that as if it is, and please note that info to begin with is “hearsay” 2 places removed. , And the homo tailhook reason is like 3 places hearsay. would (now) alot of research just to go back through all that garbage mix with truth to separate and compare with other POV’s to really understand this stuff , far more than this blog reply I am doing now.
continued- I am scared to lose a longer post -I apologize for the messy post and lack of edit given how posting edit works here, typing is difficult and a slow operation for me in this first place, and maintaining attention/being clear is an issue with me as well . hands disabled/don’t work well , in pain, on a lot of meds, such is my life
I’ll re-read your post and attempt to address further next post
Ah so. We should have built the Interstates with “voluntarism” you say? Obviously, you’ve thought “long and hard” about the issue…clearly for at least a second or two.
All I’m prepared to do “for free” is to perhaps get persons like yourself to understand the true core nature of the governments they all mostly worship and adore, nothing more.
Well, it’s mighty gracious of you to favor us with your valuable insights and your delusions of grandeur. In your paid work, do you charge extra for those cool clichés when followed by an awesome smiley, or is that just a standard gratuity?
(Just asking for a friend doing a cost-benefit analysis)
Mr. Davis, upon reading your Children’s Fantasy Writers, I was led to expect you’d like a much scantly referred psychology paper: Ritual Deception: A Window to the Hidden Determinants of Human Politics, by John O. Beahrs.
This complements well my other comment short up this one, in that “love”, romance, marriage, communal work, are all instances of politics.
Unless you do it for your own acclunt and sake, there is no point to battling untruth and its endless army, because you are just trying to win over human nature itself, and no less than that.
Plato wrote that those who tell the stories, govern. “Best” stories was implicit.
Why do you have only one cat, by the way?
Have the media unanimously covered up the truth about 9/11? See “Waxing Indignant over 9/11 Truth.” https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=R6NY8XRUYO4S
And let just add not in context, yes we have mass rape in Sweden by foreiners’ everybody has been raped at least once, me too and my cat multiple times, the police id sad the have been raped too, the Canadian geese avoid the Skaene now because most geese have been raped too, even the rapists complain they are being raped.
Dont come here, you will be raped and your pets too!!
Stay away!
Are you sure it's 100%? This Internet thingy was a government project. So was/is the Interstate Highway System. Airports, hospitals, fire departments, sanitation and sewage systems -- to mention just a few -- all rely to a greater or lesser extent on some government's ability to tax the citizens who benefit from these public services, but you -- and others here -- seem to be saying that'd we'd be better off without all the services since we're the ones paying for them.Anyway, assuming for the sake of argument that your comment is accurate, what is your recommended solution?Specifics please, not vague platitudes or shop-worn clichés: How do we build and enjoy public services without some government or governing body in charge?
all governments are essentially, at their very cores, 100% corrupt criminal scams.
Sparkon says: “Are you sure it’s 100%? “
The 2 exact reasons for my assertion were clearly given in my quote, prior to the part you have conveniently extracted here.
If you don’t agree with me that “legalized” theft and counterfeiting are criminal activities then, “Houston, we’ve got a problem” 🙂
Sparkon says: “How do we build and enjoy public services without some government or governing body in charge?”
You obviously need to think long and hard about this issue , I’m not going to help you, here, for free to boot ! 🙂
All I’m prepared to do “for free” is to perhaps get persons like yourself to understand the true core nature of the governments they all mostly worship and adore, nothing more.
So no “free solutions to solve all the worlds problems” from me right now, I’m afraid. Just a clue, it’s called “voluntarism”. Do your own research.
regards, onebornfree
Well, it's mighty gracious of you to favor us with your valuable insights and your delusions of grandeur. In your paid work, do you charge extra for those cool clichés when followed by an awesome smiley, or is that just a standard gratuity?
All I’m prepared to do “for free” is to perhaps get persons like yourself to understand the true core nature of the governments they all mostly worship and adore, nothing more.
all governments are essentially, at their very cores, 100% corrupt criminal scams.
Are you sure it’s 100%? This Internet thingy was a government project. So was/is the Interstate Highway System. Airports, hospitals, fire departments, sanitation and sewage systems — to mention just a few — all rely to a greater or lesser extent on some government’s ability to tax the citizens who benefit from these public services, but you — and others here — seem to be saying that’d we’d be better off without all the services since we’re the ones paying for them.
Anyway, assuming for the sake of argument that your comment is accurate, what is your recommended solution?
Specifics please, not vague platitudes or shop-worn clichés: How do we build and enjoy public services without some government or governing body in charge?
Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression.
It’s a good piece. But why not add, if only as a subtitle, and make love last?
In fact, you have to let all those 17 attitudes slip when she uses them (basically whenever she opens her mouth or hits a virtual keyboard with her fingers) and use them yourself whenever she unconsciously wants you to (basically, whenever you communicate anything).
You understand why the élite are at the helm when you come to see the 17-list is descriptive of all (normal) people. The élite are no inventors of a game, just the aptest and best vo-ordinating players. This switches over the perspective, thus the whole sight changes.
The media are the social analogon to the seducer in the couple. They would be punished if they were sincere, instead of pretending to being sincere and, sometimes, not even pretending that (thus subcommunicating their power, which furthers fascination in the seduced).
Where is Bigfoot when I need him ?
Probably running in terror from Big Mouth who’s pretending to be motivated by the desire to save humanity, and, BTW, conveniently taxing us fools to pay for it all.
Relax
Don’t worry; I’m perfectly relaxed and never happier than when I’m holding someone’s feet to the fire except when they do the same to me.
Bless you.
Thanks for this tidbit.:
As I understand It, there was a very well orchestrated campaign to induce Admiral Kimmel to commit suicide before he could testify about Pearl Harbor.
I’ve spent a lot of time studying the attack on PH and related subjects but never heard that. Nevertheless, I do not doubt it and find it fascinating that one (such as myself) can never learn all the details no matter how much time and effort we may invest.
David Martin says: “What you’re looking for is a general theory of corruption, and I’m not sure that one is possible. “
Here you go 🙂 :
“Because they are all ultimately funded via both direct and indirect theft [taxes], and counterfeiting [central bank monopolies], all governments are essentially, at their very cores, 100% corrupt criminal scams which cannot be “reformed”,”improved”, nor “limited” in scope, simply because of their innate criminal nature.” onebornfree
Regards, onebornfree
Are you sure it's 100%? This Internet thingy was a government project. So was/is the Interstate Highway System. Airports, hospitals, fire departments, sanitation and sewage systems -- to mention just a few -- all rely to a greater or lesser extent on some government's ability to tax the citizens who benefit from these public services, but you -- and others here -- seem to be saying that'd we'd be better off without all the services since we're the ones paying for them.Anyway, assuming for the sake of argument that your comment is accurate, what is your recommended solution?Specifics please, not vague platitudes or shop-worn clichés: How do we build and enjoy public services without some government or governing body in charge?
all governments are essentially, at their very cores, 100% corrupt criminal scams.
Whoa! Love it.
Everybody would like elites to be demigods. Heaven and Hell are both absolute dictatorships, and everybody wants to go to a secular Heaven, run by the equivalent of God. Beautiful wish, but it doesn’t happen. …
Not only does mass man want the elite to be demigods, but they expect them to be Messiahs too. Dream on, sukkas!
As it can be inferred from Boorda’s various levels of commands he would have signed off on many discharges of sailors and Marines being busted or thrown out of the Navy for exactly what he did(improper wearing of awards)
Any citations to support your inference?
I too am a veteran, and I’ve never heard of anyone being thrown out of any service for improper wearing of service ribbons. Indeed, Boorda wasn’t busted or thrown out of the USN when informed by the Navy that the embellishments were unauthorized, but rather, he simply stopped wearing the embellishments.
In any event, according to his Wikipedia article, Boorda had verbal authorization from Adm. Zumwalt to wear one of the embellishments.
However, Boorda stopped wearing the two “V” devices on these two service ribbons about a year before the Hackworth investigation, after Boorda had been informed by the Navy that he was not authorized to wear them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Michael_Boorda
Ah so, rather than being busted or thrown out of the Navy, Boorda simply stopped wearing the two tiny ‘v’ embellishments on two of his service ribbons after being informed that he wasn’t authorized to wear them, and this already at least a year before Newsweek began its investigation, and well before his alleged suicide.
The facts don’t add up to support the finding that Boorda killed himself. He was in good spirits, and the alleged motive of shame had already expired. Did he really shoot himself in the chest…twice?
The pertinent question is whether or not the alleged anger of senior Navy staff officers toward Boorda because of Tailhook had expired. In other words, did anyone have a motive to kill the Admiral?
What the Navy has hidden is that the CNO was murdered. MacDonald obtained the witness of one Chief Medical Corpsman who stated that he saw 2 bullet holes in Boorda’s body. The official story is that Boorda shot himself in the chest with a hollow point bullet, but the truth is that his murderer killed him with 2 shots to the chest.
All persons who knew Boorda were shocked by the “suicide.”
http://theamericanchronicle.blogspot.com/2014/03/the-murder-of-admiral-jeremy-boorda.html
@ jacques sheete #34
“But trying to tell the people the truth is apparently a fruitless endeavor”. How true!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rt.com/usa/380867-33mn-employee-records-leaked/amp/
On and on the list goes.The deaths could be military assainations by the enemies of the usa.
The internet and computers are a liability and not the asset tech companies will have you believe.
But then no secrets no surprises no wars.
You see me but i see you in the future
And Pat Tillman’s trusting the rat, Noam Chomsky, thinking he was a genuine government critic, may have been what did him in. See the addendum to my article here: http://www.dcdave.com/article5/121108.htm
The cases cited in your article, as well as this post, begs the question, now what? While I'm someone who values tidbits of even partial knowledge (which of course places me in the proud company of like-minded "conspiracy theorists"), I find myself at something of a loss trying to fit most "suspicious" suicides into some kind of coherent worldview.
Here it is two years after the fact, and this is the first that even I, as well-plugged-in as I am, had heard of Gen. Rossi’s death.
What you’re looking for is a general theory of corruption, and I’m not sure that one is possible. See my latest attempt to make sense of Vince Foster’s murder and the cover-up for my stab at it. http://www.dcdave.com/article5/161213.htm. I started off with illicit drugs and ended with high level pedophilia. Did you notice the absolute press hysteria of denial over the big pedo-implying stuff in the Podesta emails? The parents of my murdered young neighbor, Tommy Burkett, formed a national organization called Parents against Corruption and Cover-up. A high percentage of their members were military families. The family of Kenneth Trentadue were also members. Both Burketts died of particularly fast acting cancers, reminiscent of the one that killed Jack Ruby. Their web site, rescued from the Internet archive, is among the list of links at my dcdave.com web site.
Forgot to really mention why I felt my usage of conspiracy theory was correct.
I was working for the USN/USMC when this occurred . And knew some of Amr. Boorda from reading various articles of his, his conduct during some events that occurred as he was in the higher echelons of the Navy.His carreer was intriguing to me since he was a “Mustang” prior service enlisted and that he rose that high in rank. And I as well knew of Hackworth and read his opinions on the matter. Then reading and or running various details surrounding his suicide as much that anyone said or was public record. Then there was the fact I am a veteran, and what Hackworth’s said of Boorda and what Boorda said of Boorda and the timing all point toward Boorda committing suicide at that time. A form of repentance, As it can be inferred from Boorda’s various levels of commands he would have signed off on many discharges of sailors and Marines being busted or thrown out of the Navy for exactly what he did(improper wearing of awards). Price paid , perhaps too much in hindsight, but way more than for some internet blogger to be mudding up the historical record and in a way besmirching Boorda’s already tarnished image without any presentations of facts.
Any citations to support your inference?I too am a veteran, and I've never heard of anyone being thrown out of any service for improper wearing of service ribbons. Indeed, Boorda wasn't busted or thrown out of the USN when informed by the Navy that the embellishments were unauthorized, but rather, he simply stopped wearing the embellishments.In any event, according to his Wikipedia article, Boorda had verbal authorization from Adm. Zumwalt to wear one of the embellishments.
As it can be inferred from Boorda’s various levels of commands he would have signed off on many discharges of sailors and Marines being busted or thrown out of the Navy for exactly what he did(improper wearing of awards)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Michael_BoordaAh so, rather than being busted or thrown out of the Navy, Boorda simply stopped wearing the two tiny 'v' embellishments on two of his service ribbons after being informed that he wasn't authorized to wear them, and this already at least a year before Newsweek began its investigation, and well before his alleged suicide.The facts don't add up to support the finding that Boorda killed himself. He was in good spirits, and the alleged motive of shame had already expired. Did he really shoot himself in the chest...twice?The pertinent question is whether or not the alleged anger of senior Navy staff officers toward Boorda because of Tailhook had expired. In other words, did anyone have a motive to kill the Admiral?
However, Boorda stopped wearing the two "V" devices on these two service ribbons about a year before the Hackworth investigation, after Boorda had been informed by the Navy that he was not authorized to wear them.
http://theamericanchronicle.blogspot.com/2014/03/the-murder-of-admiral-jeremy-boorda.html
What the Navy has hidden is that the CNO was murdered. MacDonald obtained the witness of one Chief Medical Corpsman who stated that he saw 2 bullet holes in Boorda’s body. The official story is that Boorda shot himself in the chest with a hollow point bullet, but the truth is that his murderer killed him with 2 shots to the chest.
All persons who knew Boorda were shocked by the “suicide.”
Apply to blair mountain something he knows everything but is a specialist on chemtrails.
What is chem-trails BTW…
It goes against all flat earth belief that chemtrails excist. So in that sense they are right. But wrong on some other major issues.
And no, the Earth is only 62 years old, anything before me is made up fantasy and propaganda, religious soup for the masses. The Earth is 62 years old and it will die, with me, in less than 20 years. How is that long ears! Got your attention? Where is Bigfoot when I need him ?
Probably running in terror from Big Mouth who's pretending to be motivated by the desire to save humanity, and, BTW, conveniently taxing us fools to pay for it all.
Where is Bigfoot when I need him ?
You will rarely hear me use that word combo, “conspiracy theory”. I know too well how it has been abused in the Anti-white War , and labeling historical revision with all the denier bull . No I use it “correctly’ and I will rarely use it since I am aware of the weight it carries.
Using “conspiracy theory” for postulating that Adm Boorda’s suicide was actually a murder I think it qualifies. Moon Landing being a hoax is another good “conspiracy theory”.
Of course the ultimate “conspiracy theory”, was no theory as it was quite a successful real “conspiracy” The Big H. leading to the Big Iz. but that is another topic and certainly near the opposite of what you thought of my POV when I used that two word in my earlier post, LOL. Relax , have to reclaim lost ground by restoring proper usage of some terms rather than accepting them to only being used to denigrate white people.
Don't worry; I'm perfectly relaxed and never happier than when I'm holding someone's feet to the fire except when they do the same to me.
Relax
You guys are way too close to the chemtrail project, so expect us to do some extra spraying over your home towns.
Probably something to do with the Afghan heroin trade, lots of money being made there.. the refusing to go along with Iran false flag seems plausible, maybe they wanted him to blow up a ship full of US sailors or something? Call Israel, I’m sure they’d be willing to do it. Again..
Pat Tillman was murdered for threatening to come back and spill the beans on what was going on. Can’t believe he didn’t get a mention in the article. Sad!
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/pat-tillman-murdered/
Doctors examining Tillman’s body after he was killed in Afghanistan in 2004 told investigators that the three bullet holes in his head appeared to have been fired by an M-16 from less than a dozen yards away rather than the 100 meters or so that the military has claimed.
Army medical examiners were suspicious about the close proximity of the three bullet holes in Pat Tillman’s forehead and tried without success to get authorities to investigate whether the former NFL player’s death amounted to a crime, according to documents obtained by The Associated Press.
“The medical evidence did not match up with the, with the scenario as described,” a doctor who examined Tillman’s body after he was killed on the battlefield in Afghanistan in 2004 told investigators.
The doctors — whose names were blacked out — said that the bullet holes were so close together that it appeared the Army Ranger was cut down by an M-16 fired from a mere 10 yards or so away.
What an informative comment! It is as fulfilling as sucking an ice cube or humping with your pants on and zippers up.
In short, a waste of space and precious bodily fluids. Why dont you take up gainful employment; you could be working a in a Max Prison Gang or getting shot smuggling drugs or make headlines getting caught recruiting for ISIS.
You are less useless than a an American newspaper from yesterday. That at least can be used wrapping fish.
The conspiracy theory — Saddam WMD
Saddam Anthrax attack on New York
Saddam meeting Prague in Atta ( does it matter ? May be Atta meeting in Prague But tell that to the readers of NYT and viewers of FOX- They don’t know what the fuck they are being told -Atta is in Prague or Prague in Atta is same to them )
Saddam and Bin Ledeen cavorting in cave or in palace ( again they don’t know they are true patriots and sing – I don’t k now what Iran or Iraq is )
Then they come and say sorry . End of the story . The series ran its course
Now new conspiracy
Gaddafi is distributing Viagra and about to kill millions
That ran its course
then came Syria is using Gas on its people and again and again has used on its people. This has not run its course . Stay tuned.
Supposedly Bulger was also an early test subject of MK-Ultra. It wouldn’t surprise me if he’s been an intelligence asset his entire life.
A good summation.
I remember at the time he was transferred, I thought it curious, considering his background, and the next day he was dead, which i read also. I found it all suspicious, but thanks to your comment I can make my own connections.
Cheers! and a happy New Year!
Hej jacques sheete
Thanks a lot and the same of you contributions, thoughtful and informing.
A happy new year to you!
🙂
I’ve worked with them. They aren’t superhuman. An aide failing to get the display right might well never be noticed by a busy and somewhat political military executive. Servant problem, don’t you know, and much else on his/her mind. Admiral might get a ding for not providing a good example to the troops, but only if he or she was in temporary political disgrace.
Heck, I remember one of Admiral that made it a practice to close the door to her office when the office Marine played the Marine Hymn – weakening the social structure and morale of the office she worked in and the organization that it was part of.
The thing to remember about elites is that they serve in an organization staffed by non-elites who are not super-geniuses. This means that the elites can’t be super-geniuses either – try putting a 150 IQ topologist in command and see what happens.
Nor can the elite be near obsessive-compulsives who check every detail every time. The micro-managers get weeded out and sometime relieved for cause when commanding ships and the like.
Everybody would like elites to be demigods. Heaven and Hell are both absolute dictatorships, and everybody wants to go to a secular Heaven, run by the equivalent of God. Beautiful wish, but it doesn’t happen. God isn’t manifest on earth as a senior manager, it seems. Managers are just specialized workers, no more, no less. They know their business and not necessarily any more. Did you really expect anything else to be true?
Counterinsurgency
Not only does mass man want the elite to be demigods, but they expect them to be Messiahs too. Dream on, sukkas!
Everybody would like elites to be demigods. Heaven and Hell are both absolute dictatorships, and everybody wants to go to a secular Heaven, run by the equivalent of God. Beautiful wish, but it doesn’t happen. ...
Yada yada yada. Do you even know what a conspiracy is?
Using the doofus mass media popularized buzzwords, catchphrases and cliches doesn’t reflect well on anyone’s creativity, intelligence or honesty and dismissing the message of this article in such an offhand and supercilious manner doesn’t particularly present you as a thinker of competence.
Capiche?
An article including the most far-fetched “stuff” , I have read on this forum. The details the timing around and and about Adm. Boorda’s death , remove it from conspiracy theory. He killed himself. To come out 20 years later saying otherwise with nothing at all, won’t change that.
The rest of the article? I don’t know , It kept mixing in so much other bull , I really couldn’t see anything supporting any conspiracy about this new Adm.’s death. either. Lost interest trying to sort it out.
I don’t use the commenters to ignore function but I don’t bother reading the comments of quite few commenters and you are one of them. You are more than welcome to retaliate in kind.
One last thing, I’d suggest that you leave comedy to the professionals.
Have a nice day.
As I understand It, there was a very well orchestrated campaign to induce Admiral Kimmel to commit suicide before he could testify about Pearl Harbor.
I've spent a lot of time studying the attack on PH and related subjects but never heard that. Nevertheless, I do not doubt it and find it fascinating that one (such as myself) can never learn all the details no matter how much time and effort we may invest.
As I understand It, there was a very well orchestrated campaign to induce Admiral Kimmel to commit suicide before he could testify about Pearl Harbor.
“Do you really think …that the “media”* will actively participate in the cover up?”
Regards, onebornfree
A dying breed, a stud mustang!
His kids were fearless big wave surfers.
source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustang_(military_officer)
Did you notice that Colonel Albin said of Sabow that he was the kind of guy who might have thought that “suicide was the manly thing to do”. The most intriguing thing about that linked article is the way the forensic evidence is left complicated but underexposed.
As Frank Zappa once astutely observed: ” the MSM is just the entertainment wing of the military industrial complex” , [or words to that effect].
He would have been more correct to say that the mass media is the propaganda and entertainment wing of the global mafia.
“The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media.”
–William Colby, former CIA Director, cited by Dave Mcgowan, Derailing Democracy
“You could get a journalist cheaper than a good call girl, for a couple hundred dollars a month.”
–CIA operative, discussing the availability and prices of journalists willing to peddle CIA propaganda and cover stories.Deborah Davis, “Katherine the Great”
“There is quite an incredible spread of relationships. You don’t need to manipulate Time magazine, for example, because there are [Central Intelligence] Agency people at the management level.”
–William B. Bader, former CIA intelligence officer, briefing members of the Senate Intelligence Committee, The CIA and the Media, by Carl Bernstein
May I also mention the CIA’s Operation Mockingbird, whose Frank Wisner gushed that he was the maestro of a “mighty Wurlitzer” that was “capable of playing any propaganda tune he desired?”
Yes, we in the USA have a free press. It’s free to feed us BS 24/7/365.
PS: Wisner is upposed to have committed suicide as well. He should have kept his mouth shut, I think.
Thank you Sir!
I actually just finished reading that excellent piece and was led to it, indirectly, after Jonathan Revusky mentioned the link to the website. I wonder how long it will take to understand the particular links in the present case to such things as this… :
Seasoned Assassins
At critical moments in U.S. relations with the Arab world and Israel there has invariably been some one person who has seen the problem in full perspective, bestirred himself, and attempted to tell the story to the American public. Equally invariably, like the wolf at the head of the pack, he has been forthrightly shot down, his pen or voice stilled, and the gaping vacuum once more becomes apparent.
(Alfred M. Lilienthal, op. cit.
Was Stearney about to bestir himself and spill the beans on something?
Maybe he was open to blackmail? Maybe he was informed that there would be an "Event", involving his 5th Fleet in the Persian Gulf - and he should prepare to attack Iran?
Was Stearney about to bestir himself and spill the beans on something?
Yes, but. Supposing that you knew that a well read if not intellectually inclined high ranking officer used to like to compare Japanese samurai with Roman aristocrats? I merely invite extension of the imagination.
Didn’t Whitey also win the MA state lottery while in prison?
Knew the family fairly well.
Admiral George E. R. Kinnear II
source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_E._R._Kinnear_II
Read the wiki. He was a stud. RIP.
renfro: “I’ m not going to add to the conspiracy theories but it is unusual for people in power to commit suicide.
It occurs most often when they see ‘no way out’ of something that could ruin their life or when they are faced with some disease that will ravage them and make them ‘helpless’.”
“Live by the sword, die by the sword” is most likely the real story here.
Regards, onebornfree
Miro23 : “The United States doesn’t have an independent media – it has the Greater Israel propaganda department + a Greater Israel sleaze (entertainment) department.”
As Frank Zappa once astutely observed: ” the MSM is just the entertainment wing of the military industrial complex” , [or words to that effect].
Regards, onebornfree.
He would have been more correct to say that the mass media is the propaganda and entertainment wing of the global mafia.
As Frank Zappa once astutely observed: ” the MSM is just the entertainment wing of the military industrial complex” , [or words to that effect].
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media."
--William Colby, former CIA Director, cited by Dave Mcgowan, Derailing Democracy
"You could get a journalist cheaper than a good call girl, for a couple hundred dollars a month."
--CIA operative, discussing the availability and prices of journalists willing to peddle CIA propaganda and cover stories. Deborah Davis, “Katherine the Great”
May I also mention the CIA's Operation Mockingbird, whose Frank Wisner gushed that he was the maestro of a “mighty Wurlitzer” that was “capable of playing any propaganda tune he desired?”Yes, we in the USA have a free press. It's free to feed us BS 24/7/365.PS: Wisner is upposed to have committed suicide as well. He should have kept his mouth shut, I think.
"There is quite an incredible spread of relationships. You don’t need to manipulate Time magazine, for example, because there are [Central Intelligence] Agency people at the management level."--William B. Bader, former CIA intelligence officer, briefing members of the Senate Intelligence Committee, The CIA and the Media, by Carl Bernstein
That must have made you feel better. Now how can we give you a big enough space to run around in so you will be exhausted by bed time?
Heresy Central. Luv it.
Slightly OT, but DM has a great article there, “Who Is Donald Trump?” that should be read by all true believers.
https://heresycentral.is/dcdave/who-is-trump/
The real Trump motto.: Let’s Make America a Great Cesspool Again!
Forrestal's death came quickly to mind when I began reading this article and I've always thought the official reports of suicide were bogus.
...the report of the official investigation of Secretary of Defense James Forrestal’s “suicide.”
Commies and Zionists have killed and still kill millions in their quest for world control; why would anyone not suspect Forrestal to have been killed by either? Yeah, yeah I'mma kunspirasee theerist.
… it was Forrestal who personally alerted freshman Senator McCarthy to the Communist menace and "named names" to him of key persons in our federal government who were consistently shaping our policies and programs to benefit Soviet Russia. It was Forrestal who thus directly inspired McCarthy's subsequent exposés of Communist influence and subversion in the federal government.
-Dave Martin, James Forrestal And Joe McCarthy
https://rense.com/general94/frr.htm
Who Killed James Forrestal? http://www.dcdave.com/article4/021110.html
Was Stearney about to bestir himself and spill the beans on something?
Seasoned Assassins
At critical moments in U.S. relations with the Arab world and Israel there has invariably been some one person who has seen the problem in full perspective, bestirred himself, and attempted to tell the story to the American public. Equally invariably, like the wolf at the head of the pack, he has been forthrightly shot down, his pen or voice stilled, and the gaping vacuum once more becomes apparent.
(Alfred M. Lilienthal, op. cit.
Thanks JR!
Keep your eye on Erik Prince.
Which one are you? I'd like to read more of what you've written and have no use for the CBS Dave Martin.
(That’s the other “David Martin” who contributed to the CBS report.)
There’s some stuff here:
https://heresycentral.is/author/dcdave/
I’ve been meaning to put up some more of his work.
The canonical DcDave site is still DcDave.com however.
(That’s the other “David Martin” who contributed to the CBS report.)
Which one are you? I’d like to read more of what you’ve written and have no use for the CBS Dave Martin.
The strangest and maybe one of the most revealing murders just happened recently without, as far as I can tell, any media investigation at all. None.
This was the recent death Boston crime lord and longtime FBI informant Whitey Bulger who seems to have been recently transferred to a regular prison after residing for years in a heavily protected, “safe” prison environment that had been specifically designed for government snitches like him and ex- Mafia member informants. Within just a few hours of his coming to this new prison, he was murdered while sitting in his wheelchair. Very little has been revealed about this mysterious death.
How was this transfer to a regular prison population allowed considering Bulger’s considerable notoriety and the knowledge of what fellow prisoners do to “snitches”? How did his murderers learn so quickly about his new presence? Was anyone punished for proposing and then allowing this very dangerous transfer to a general prison population to occur? No one seems to know.
Bulger has a very curious connection to present day events. Boston based Bulger was informing to the FBI for many years about his fellow east coast gangsters, both Irish and Italian. At least part of this time, he was working under the supervision of none other than Trump arch-enemy Robert Mueller. Mueller was working for the US Attorney for the District of Massachusets (1986-1987) where he would have at least have known about Bulger’s status as an informant. This knowledge would have only increased while Mueller was US Assistant Attorney general for the Criminal Division from 1990-1993. One thing definitely stands out. Mueller knew Bulger and Bulger knew (possibly a lot) about Mueller.
There is a rumor floating around that while Bulger was an informant, the FBI (and maybe Mueller) conveniently overlooked at least three murders he committed to protect his identity. . There is another rumor out there that three innocent men were sent to prison by the FBI specifically to cover up crimes committed by Bulger. Did these coverups occur under Mueller’s watch?
Consider this timeline: Republican Mueller loses his post at the Criminal Division in 1993 after having been replaced by a Democrat appointee of the new Bill Clinton regime at the Criminal Division. This new Democrat Assistant Attorney General for the Criminal Division, either ignoring (maybe not even knowing about Bulger’s previous privileged status as an informant) starts to go after Bulger. Bulger then suddenly goes on the lam in 1994 after having been conveniently informed about his upcoming arrest. There is the curious question about who exactly informed Bulger about this upcoming arrest. A patsy was conveniently found to take the blame but for doing this but was it actually him or did the information about the upcoming arrest given to Bulger come from much higher up?
Bulger then flees to Santa Monica, California where he resides in apparent peace and prosperity for the next sixteen years despite having his name and face plastered all over the FBI’s ten most wanted list and after apparently not having had received any plastic surgery to disguise his appearance. Didn’t the Santa Monica police during this period ever look at the FBI’s ten most wanted list. If they would have, they might have noticed their neighbor Bulger’s face on it a wee bit sooner. It’s as if Bulger had suddenly become invisible in Santa Monica. Was, however, this invisibility merely by chance?
Bulger’s whereabouts were then apparently (and possibly deliberately) forgotten during the George W. Bush regime 2000-2008.
Then under the new Obama regime, the hunt for Bulger is finally remembered and it begins afresh. An extensive effort begins to locate Bulger. This search is finally successful in 2011. Bulger is captured and put on trial and found guilty of many crimes including multiple murders.
You can bet that Bulger, after being convicted, was then more than happy to reveal to his Obama Democrat prosecution team all sort of revealing things about his illegal work for previous Republican administrations. This was done so that he could guarantee that his life sentence could be served in semi-pleasant (i.e. safe) and maybe even a country club-like setting (you know, just like where Jonathan Pollard and Bernie Madoff ended up).
Just a short time ago, this agreement was suddenly put aside by people who are unknown and he was deliberately set up to die. He simply knew too much to be kept alive. He had outlived his usefulness and now only was a potential threat.
Addendum: How the MSM explains (excuses) how Bulger was never recognized for the sixteen years he was on the loose.
This level of obfuscation - with a full piece in Psychology Today - itself screams "Deep State." Ironically, Mueller himself now finds himself in much the same position as his former partner in crime Whitey Bulger - he knows far too much for many people's comfort, especially the Clintons. Mueller would probably not survive very long if the Clintons regain a measure of power under a Democratic administration.
Addendum: How the MSM explains (excuses) how Bulger was never recognized for the sixteen years he was on the loose.https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/metacognition-and-the-mind/201307/why-whitey-bulger-went-unnoticed-in-older-age
Here it is two years after the fact, and this is the first that even I, as well-plugged-in as I am, had heard of Gen. Rossi’s death.
The cases cited in your article, as well as this post, begs the question, now what? While I’m someone who values tidbits of even partial knowledge (which of course places me in the proud company of like-minded “conspiracy theorists”), I find myself at something of a loss trying to fit most “suspicious” suicides into some kind of coherent worldview.
As a counter example, your Kay Griggs series was very illuminating, because it went beyond suspicion and opened the window on specifics about which I’d no idea.
24 the may 2018.stearney was appointed in may so maybe there is a connection
From wikimpedia
Stearney served as commander, U.S. Naval Forces Central Command (NAVCENT), U.S. 5th Fleet, Combined Maritime Forces from May 2018 until his death on December 1, 2018.[
This happened in may
Apparently, he’ll be replaced by Rear Adm. Paul Schlise. Anyone have any word on him?
Hey DLA,
Please stop.; you’re making monkeys of your critics and it’s hilarious!
Thanks,
JS
PS: Jeg er glad du er her. Tusind tak!
…the report of the official investigation of Secretary of Defense James Forrestal’s “suicide.”
Forrestal’s death came quickly to mind when I began reading this article and I’ve always thought the official reports of suicide were bogus.
Would you be willing to share any resources for more details?
For those who may not know who Forrestal was, here’s a link to a decent article on him.
… it was Forrestal who personally alerted freshman Senator McCarthy to the Communist menace and “named names” to him of key persons in our federal government who were consistently shaping our policies and programs to benefit Soviet Russia. It was Forrestal who thus directly inspired McCarthy’s subsequent exposés of Communist influence and subversion in the federal government.
-Dave Martin, James Forrestal And Joe McCarthy
https://rense.com/general94/frr.htm
Commies and Zionists have killed and still kill millions in their quest for world control; why would anyone not suspect Forrestal to have been killed by either? Yeah, yeah I’mma kunspirasee theerist.
I have noticed you are quite a freak. Maybe we should alert PETA that you make snuff films of yourself crushing parakeets.
By the way..I enjoy the autopsy photos of JFK….JFK was a WAR CRIMINAL…
renfro
TAKE DOWN THOSE JFK PINUP BOY POSTERS!!!!
The JFK autopsy photos are best viewed with cornbeef and cabbage……and a six pack…
According to Marine Biologists…..The Martha Vineyard Blue Crab Population were enjoying JFK jr and his wife with cornbeef and cabbage…and sixpacks…..at a depth of 100 feet…
I have no intention to. But thank you for the explanation.
Now can I pursuay not to post nonsense anymore?…..
No I thought not.
So I will kindly not reply , but ignore. Your comments are as the leaves of last year. A nuisance but avoidable if I go indoor.
Cheers
Stay not too well
🙂
The United States doesn’t have an independent media – it has the Greater Israel propaganda department + a Greater Israel sleaze (entertainment) department.
All these outlets were obliged to read out the same script.
I’ m not going to add to the conspiracy theories but it is unusual for people in power to commit suicide.
It occurs most often when they see ‘no way out’ of something that could ruin their life or when they are faced with some disease that will ravage them and make them ‘helpless’.
“Qr it could have been something as trivial as a simple mistake ………setting up Boorda’s uniform.”.
I don’t think so. Admirals probably have at least a dozen different uniforms to which medals and decorations are affixed. Admirals live in grand style better than star grade officers in the other services. He also has at least one senior grade (captain) serving as his aide who is there to fill the admiral’s every whim. The aide had to know the medal(s) were unauthorized so he was complicit in the matter, Discretion is the better part of valor.
By the way..I enjoy the autopsy photos of JFK….JFK was a WAR CRIMINAL…
I have noticed you are quite a freak. Maybe we should alert PETA that you make snuff films of yourself crushing parakeets.
Comrade Den Lille Abe
You gotta lighten up…have a few beers…then go to YouTube:SNL SKIT…DAN AKYROD…JANE CURTIN…”JANE..YOU DIRTY IGNORANT SLUT!!!!”…the funniest line ever uttered in a Comedy Skit….
Suicide doesn’t restore honor in American military culture. Its more a culture of ‘take your punishment.’
Quickly attempting to fill the information vacuum on Stearney’s death was a writer who uses the apparent pen name
The thing with government secrecy and information vacuums is that anybody can write anything.
Sources say the admiral hung himself from a doorknob with a red necktie.
We have been informed the CIA has audio of Navy Seal assassins torturing the admiral for ten minutes before hacking him up with machetes in what was described as a midnight full moon luciferian ritual like something out of Apocalypse Now.
The toxicology report has been classified but is said to have included a heroic dose of cocaine, heroin, xanax, adderall, and alcohol.
*All of the editors? All journalists? What hierarchy?
So many wheels. So much falling: MSM channels caught using literally the same phrase to refer to resignation of Mattis pic.twitter.com/CaSM53fcWQ
— RT (@RT_com) December 28, 2018
Somewhat related to this article is the very high number of mid level to upper level banker’s suicides over the past few years. Zero hedge use to be a good sources for this information.
I don’t think political and financial type murders were very common prior to the 60s, but both types seems to be rising at an exponential rate.
Perhaps it is a sign of the decadence of late empire.
Admiral George E. R. Kinnear II
source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_E._R._Kinnear_II
Knew the family fairly well.
Rented a room in a house they had owned in San Diego.
Sad stuff happened to some of their children, that was eerily unexplainable.
Always had a sense that dark geopolitical forces were responsible for the progeny’s untimely fates.