I’m both too lazy and too much of a brainlet to figure out how, do I just use a site like Scihub.ru or what?

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HAHAHAHA……I’ve just come back from the beautiful Mallorca on holiday – just the perfect place to go for anybody in a country with a free-visa regime with the EU – except coming across 1000s of people I did not hear ONE Ukrainian-speaker, and nearly as rarely did I come across or hear a “Ukrainian”.
Russians , by contrast were there in abundance, every time at the beach there was at least a group of Russians in the set of chair/umbrella next to us or in the circle around that. Then I nearly always heared, or speak to and meet Russians at any bar or club we went to. At the amazing Palma cathedral I would put the number of Russians there as second to only the Germans, and ahead of the British and Americans ( the cathedral being the only place I saw and heard Americans all holiday). Ukrops? None – scumbag excrement like the North American Banderatards posing twice a year in Delaware in vishivankas like they were an African tribe – does not count.

So, there are many embarrassing ratio’s involving ‘Ukrainians” to Russians….like the 4:1 in russia’s favour of wage size,

or 30:1 of cars sold in Russia compared to Ukraine in the last year

What I really am almost embarassed to write is of the 754:0 ratio of Russian speakers to Ukrainian speakers on one of the worlds premier tourist destinations.

“Slight” improvement for Ukrainians on nationality though – I came across a ratio of 750:4 of Russians to Ukrainians!

As for your supposed holiday – we all know it is a disinformation fantasy for a tramp like yourself . You have literally nothing better to do then spamtroll lies on here for 20 hours a day – fantasist roleplays like the fake holiday are as low as it gets

LOL….So even with graphs proving Dmitrys point – Lvov ghosttown shithole has by far the highest crime in the west because it is the biggest “economic centre” there with the most urbanization, Kiev has by far the biggest crime in the whole country and of course in the main economic centre with the biggest metropolis – you persist if falsifying with more tmewasting drivel.

As for the TB graph – in view of the series of way above average outbreaks of disease, including TB , hovering over the west of Ukraine….that is a particularly dumb comment – shows even as much as the exceedingly incompentant language posts how little you know about Ukraine
The life expectancy differences are practically minimal and irrelevant – high male to female expectancy exists in both Lvov and Donetsk – Lvov exists as a shitter version of the North Caucasus – not a great selling point

AnonFromTN is one of the most perceptive commenters out there. You however have , multiple times been proven as a compulsive liar, fantasist and spamtroll freak………evidenced in spectacular fashion by your unambiguously total lack of any knowledge of the double meaning ( of in fact either meaning ) of the Russian word “mir” ( ironically , the only Russian word you do know is “Golodomor” in addition to your whole (copy and pasted) posts of language of Russia/Ukraine which if not for your cowardly anonymity on the internet , would have shamed you into never posting on the internet ever.

Seriously get those posts on language up again…that “lesson” is ” invaluable (LOL_)

Kiev, the top one in Ukraine, is in 34th place. It outranks all the universities in the Balkans (Romania, Bulgaria, Croatia, Serbia), Latvia and Slovakia. Three schools in Poland are better.

LOL….actually I saw a ranking of about 1400 Universities in the world….Ukropia had the grand total of ……….ONE!

Lvov has amongst the shittest Universities in the country you cretin. Getting pseudo points from the international commnity for EU funded pseudo-research into the fake Ukrainian history ( Ancient Greek culture was actually “Ukrainian” and all that BS) is not something to be proud of

Can anybody remind me what public toilets the Lvov philarmonic Orchestra are performing a concert at for the opening?

100k likes in three hours.

Replies from MAGA crowd look like this.

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— EDWARD ASHTON 🇺🇸 (@EdwardAshton30) June 20, 2019

Not good.

This Crassus might be about to cross the Euphrates:

Iran made a very big mistake!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 20, 2019

Good one! Also, it would appear that our camillus is a fraud, not a real Camillus.

When Camillus had heard him out, he was astounded at the treachery of the act, and, turning to the standers-by, observed that “war, indeed, is of necessity attended with much injustice and violence! Certain laws, however, all good men observe even in war itself, nor is victory so great an object as to induce us to incur for its sake obligations for base and impious acts. A great general should rely on his own virtue, and not on other men’s vices.”

-Plutarch , Lives, (~75 BC)

The Iranian regime is toast.

The US regime was toasted over a century ago. I’m not happy about that. And it’s boss and partners in global crime, the Zionist crime project, is becoming more and more hated, even by more and more Jews, and is in the toaster as we speak. I do like that.

You cats have had your day.

PS: Of course we’ll have a war on the people of Iran and the American people. tRump (another “war” prez,) would be toast without one.

Here is the symbol you want: ‱.

the super rich 1% ‘ters

I wonder about the origin of the expression, given that the people meant when it is used are, at the most, one in ten thousands.

About ten or fifteen years back there was a big hullabaloo about an expectant war between Iran and the US. The BBC (IIRC) even had journalists pre-positioned on US aircraft carriers and ships in the Persian Gulf. Nothing came of it.

Hopefully that’s the case with this situation.

Pompeo has set the ‘trigger’ condition for a US military ‘counter-attack’ upon Iran as the death of a single US service member as a result of Iranian action.

Pompeo warns Iran about trigger for US military action as some in administration question aggressive policy
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo at State Department (June 13, 2019)

‘Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has privately delivered warnings intended for Iranian leaders that any attack by Tehran or its proxies resulting in the death of even one American service member will generate a military counterattack, U.S. officials said…’

https://m.stamfordadvocate.com/news/article/Pompeo-warns-Iran-about-trigger-for-US-military-14016197.php

There is no doubt that US, with Israel, are the two most dangerous terrorist States that exist today

The author certainly underestimates “our dear friends the Saudis”. They can’t compete with the US for the glory of being #1 terrorist state, but KSA has a chance to come in #2, pushing Israel to the third place (which still earns a medal).

Donetsk had a lot of wealth… This was its only advantage

It’s rather one of preconditions for most advantages that most cities have.

population was 2nd out of 27 so this is actually a bad result. Urban people are usually more highly educated – but not in Donetsk.

That’s going to be divided by population though. Donetsk was doing better in higher education than most regions in Ukraine, although I had written a lazy mistake last night in claiming it was number 2 out of 27, when it was 8 out of 27.

Anyways, I have to finish packing and will be gone for a couple of weeks. Will be visiting one of my urheimats, in Tyrol 🙂

There is no excuse to escape from us: what else will you do on the train instead of posting here from your phone – talk to real people? look out of the window at beautiful scenery? Lol we have WiFi in Europe even in public transport 🙂

Hehe…..good comment, actually.

Quite perceptive, in fact.

One could, based on THAT understanding, build a quite effective “outfit”.

just a bit, on “barbecues and ball games” and trying to acquire necessary skills.

Screw wasted time, just give me a M79.

Ah, yes, sorry, a bit more.
Those (plenty) who do have those skills I mentioned above could cut down, a bit too, on falling (mentally) apart, substance abuse, and suicides.
Ah, yes, one more.
Those really having enough and acting out, well, could choose their targets a little bit better. Be, how to put it, more selective there. I know, directly related to the paragraph above (falling apart/substance) , but still.

Then we sign up with Peter’s irregulars!

Good.

I’d suggest, in meantime, cutting down, just a bit, on “barbecues and ball games” and trying to acquire necessary skills.
Marksmanship and “getting” the MOUT, in particular.

Oh, BTW, I’d leave leadership to men 10 times better than me.
I’d be happy to work for them.

Now…let’s just wait and see will such a man (or a woman, actually) pop up, somewhere, in the next 3 years.

In the US, the 2020 election, and all those for the foreseeable future will be decided by the actual % split in the white vote. White people will be deciding the political fate of the US (and The Free World) for some time.

White….. vote..in 2024, and after?
O.K.

What happens when the optimism runs out could be an interesting question.

Then we sign up with Peter’s irregulars!

In the US, the 2020 election, and all those for the foreseeable future will be decided by the actual % split in the white vote. White people will be deciding the political fate of the US (and The Free World) for some time.

that not only can save Americans but all citizens of the world, is Tulsi Gabbard.

It was coming along well enough, then he had to ruin it by plugging for this fake liberal, cult hindoo nationalist.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/06/tulsi-gabbard-2020-presidential-campaign.html

That’s an extraordinarily optimistic scenario.

Yep.
What happens when the optimism runs out could be an interesting question.
We’ll see that within next 3 years, at the most, IMHO.

This comparison is pretty ridiculous.

You’ll have to take up your complaint as to the quality of the comparison regarding the First Triumvirate with the US/UK establishment itself.

Since Trump’s entry into the 2016 election, as in the two examples linked below from the New York Times and the Financial Times of London, amongst quite a few others, Trump has been routinely compared by the US/UK corporate media directly to the Roman billionaire/real estate speculator Marcus Licinius Crassus.

Similarly, the US/UK establishment has long compared itself to the Roman Empire, ie the ‘New Rome’, seeing itself like the Rome of old as predestined to conquer the world. [Such as in the US published 1853 geo-political book linked below, entitled the New Rome, which outlines in three steps just how in the future the US and UK will proceed to do so ie. 1) US and UK reunite to form a practically unbeatable mega-force 2) Conquer and consolidate control of Germany, the center of power upon continental Europe 3) Smash Russia via global projection of US air power, Russia being identified as a potential contender with the United States for the control of Germany, and thus of Europe and the world. The book, though widely reviewed in the United States at the time, was largely dismissed as ‘moonshine’.]

Power elites of the US and UK for a long time, only somewhat cryptically, have often broadcast what they are planning to do. The link below regarding ‘a dark intrigue’, the language of people at the time to describe it, outlines how both the future British Prime Ministers Palmerston and Disraeli in writings well before the fact, described the events of the officially ‘spontaneous’ 1848 Revolutions across much of Europe.

Palmerston did so in the form of the lead story of the front page of the Spectator of London in 1846, and Disraeli in the form of a book, Coningsby, some years before that.

As mentioned, Trump’s already been connected by the US and UK establishment to the Roman Triumvirate as Crassus. The rest is just connecting the dots, and in this particular case, not many at that.

Secretary of State Pompeo’s sirname is literally an Italian derivative of the Latin Pompey. Besides that, this politically powerful person looks almost like the physical reincarnation of Pompey the Great himself. Pompeo would seem made to order for the comparison.

The Roman real estate tychoon Crassus was the patron of the young up and coming 30 something Julius Caeser, helping him out financially and politically.

And what do we find with Trump? He’s the patron politically (and somewhat financially?) of the young up and coming 30 something Jared Kushner.

Anyhow, trying to run away from it, or burying one’s head in the sand, or simply not liking it, won’t change the fact of these power elites and hangers on engaging in these types of cryptic forewarnings (for their own reasons) from time to time.

And while they don’t always follow through, ie lucky Obama -for now- and the near continuous comparisons made of him with Lincoln and Kennedy while in office, not noting it when it’s blatant and in your face as this seems to be, won’t change it either.

One certainly shouldn’t lose their head about it, but still…

The best thing that all three of these persons, Trump, Kushner, and Pompeo, could do (that’s if they even can) is quietly resign from their office and retire.

And come to think of it, that’s probably what the members of the First Triumvirate, each of whom came to a bad end in their quest for an over abundance of personal wealth and power, should of done as well.

Marcus Licinius Crassus

https://www.ft.com/content/95271efa-e62a-11e5-a09b-1f8b0d268c39

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/14/opinion/the-trumpiest-roman-of-them-all.html

https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/the_new_rome_or_the_united_states_of_the_world_1853

https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/a_dark_intrigue_the_revolutions_of_1848

….It will allow the rise of a “Trumpism” candidate that will not have Trump’s negatives and who can develop a platform that is more favorable to the working class which should be able to get 20-30% of the black vote and 30-40% of the Hispanic vote….

O…..K.

hezbollah was formed as a defensive organization and that is its sole purpose, because of Israeli interference and control over lebanon

… those Iranians who want the regime preserved have every incentive to start the war on their own terms instead of going down without a fight.

Yep.

….international law (or justice, if you like) on their side. But those things don’t matter anyway.

Definitely.

It is known to anyone with half a brain that the rankings are determined by who does the ranking, not by the reality. In the area I know (biochemistry and cell biology) Russian, Czech, Hungarian, and Polish science is weak, while Ukrainian is non-existent. I strongly suspect that regional Russian Universities are as pathetic as all Ukrainian ones. I had once an applicant who got her PhD from Taras Shevchenko National University of Kiev, which is considered the best in Ukraine. She gave me printed official summary of her thesis and a paper she published in English. I was appalled: materials and methods section of my lowest grade papers have more substance than her whole thesis. She would never be allowed to defend that pathetic stuff at Moscow State or at St Petersburg University. Naturally, I did not even invite her for a talk at our lab meeting. Beijing University or Tsinghua University in Shanghai are at about the same level as Moscow State, way above Kiev University, even though they wouldn’t make it to the top 50 in the US or Europe. As one of the bloggers aptly put it, if Ukraine is Europe, my tabby cat is a tiger.

That’s an extraordinarily optimistic scenario.

Yes it is, and with a limited window of opportunity, but it gets even better after a couple of Coors.

Russia is not interested in occupying any neighbors

We were talking about a hypothetical situation above.

Donetsk had a lot of wealth because it produced steel and coal, which provided hard currency. This was its only advantage. Otherwise – high crime, low life expectancy, high infant mortality, etc.

In higher education, Donetsk is 8th out of 27th

It’s population was 2nd out of 27 so this is actually a bad result. Urban people are usually more highly educated – but not in Donetsk.

Anyways, I have to finish packing and will be gone for a couple of weeks. Will be visiting one of my urheimats, in Tyrol 🙂

But first to Budapest. Thank you reiner and melanf for your advice, it has been appreciated!

All that would have been correct if Russia wanted to occupy Ukraine (or anything else, for that matter). As Russia is not interested in occupying any neighbors, Ukraine, like an aging prostitute, would keep waiting for a client that never comes. The same goes for the rest of Europe, including Baltic vaudeville states.

As to military equipment, it is a lot less important than the mindset of combatants. The example of Afghanistan, where NATO is suffering a monumental failure despite having vastly superior toys, shows this clearly. I am not sure about Eastern Europeans, but Western Europeans would lose any war with any determined adversary before it even starts. Europe security lies exclusively in the fact that Russia does not want it.

The US, Russia, and China need advanced military toys exclusively to be able to destroy each other half a world away. There is sort of parity there. If it ever comes to close ground combat, the US forces would lose to either Russia or China, and the US military brass knows it. That’s why the “wars” are waged on Twitter and Facebook, and the rhetoric is kept threatening only to convince sheeple that huge waste of resources going to MIC is not waste. Fat cats grow fatter, sabers are continuously rattled, but never used. Pentagon profiteers grow richer, but remain alive. Both things make them happy. BTW, that’s the reason why the US talked the talk about NK, but never walked the walk. The same scenario was played out recently regarding Venezuela, and is unfolding now regarding Iran. Cowardice is the best (for the rest of humanity) thing neocons and the rest of globalist elites have today and will ever have. That’s why I am cautiously optimistic.

How does that contradict what I said?

You wrote that Lviv Polytechnic National University was the equivalent of ” the level of Shithole community college in the US boondocks. ”

I pointed out that it outranks Voronezh State University, Southern Urals Sate University (Chelyabinsk), Saratov State University in Russia. It actually outranks about 2/3 of Russia’s universities and institutes:

https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/eeca-rankings/2018

So you claim that 2/3 of Russia’s universities and institutes are even worse than “the level of Shithole community college in the US boondocks. “

‘Iran, as a state, isn’t a threat to Israel, but Hezbollah, their proxy, certainly is. The anti-Iran hysteria only really started after Israel got waxed by them in 2006. That war exposed a lot of Israel’s weaknesses, political and military, and these are people not particularly inclined towards forgive and forget. Not to mention that their enmity to Iran has allowed them to develop relations with Iran’s Arab enemies, something unthinkable just a short time ago. So it’s not irrational.’

Israel has only herself to blame for the existence of Hezbollah in the first place; the organization never would have appeared if Israel hadn’t invaded Lebanon.

Moreover, Hezbollah is only a ‘threat’ to Israel in the sense that its existence would make any future invasion of Lebanon prohibitively expensive. Hezbollah’s stance is emphatically defensive; if Israel leaves it alone, it leaves Israel alone. This was demonstrated during Israel’s last strafeexpeditione into Gaza; Hezbollah very pointedly sat on its hands and watched.

Certainly Hezbollah is an uncomfortable reminder that Israel does not in fact rule supreme over all. However, it’s not actually a ‘threat’ — except in the sense that it interferes with Israel’s delusions of grandeur. No, you can’t actually beat up the neighbors with impunity; sorry.

Yes because the UN has knowledge of top secret US military operations. More example of the decline in Jewish intelligence that they would cook up such poor disinformation.

Europe has said no, except those useless odds and sods in Westminster and Trump has already declared the tanker attack a minor event.

Poor performance in a poorly led war of choice in Afghanistan (with many contradictory requirements and zero political will to do what it takes) is not a good proxy for whether Russia would be able to overrun Europe. (Except the Baltics, which would be easy, due to geography and logistics.) Even worse to expect Europe to be dominated by Russia while Russia is bogged down in a war of occupation in Ukraine. Expecting Europe to just give up after Russia occupies Ukraine is a serious misreading of the European mind, regardless of country. Expecting the same to happen due to economic blackmail by a hostile power (Russia is considered to be such) is an even more serious misreading of the European mindset.

German leopard tanks performing badly during Turkeys military action in Syria

1) Turks used the tanks exceptionally poorly.

2) Those tanks were obsolete models produced some 40 years ago, upgraded to late 1980s standards.

Does Poland produce any of it’s equipment?

Yes, Poland has a relatively well developed defense industry. (Unlike Hungary, where other than a few trucks we can produce nothing for our military, and now trying to re-establish production of small arms and ammo for small arms.)

Donetsk region was the second most economically successful region in Ukraine after Kiev, had the second most wealthy people after Kiev,

This is quite clear.

GDP per capita 3rd highest in Ukraine, however, after Dnepropetrovskaya region and Kiev.

And on city level, Donetsk had second most wealthy people in Ukraine after Kiev.
https://web.archive.org/web/20120813005732/http://focus.ua/society/241242

it had the highest quality of life in Ukraine after Kiev,

This comment of me, is more ambiguous or inaccurate, because of low level of health and life expectancy there.

and the most educated population in Ukraine after Kiev.

Here I made mistakes in my last night post.

Donetsk region was low in some forms of education (primary level, but this is not relevant).

In higher education, Donetsk is 8th out of 27th (so still significantly above average level for Ukraine, but not one of the superstar regions). In areas like technological readiness and innovativeness, 3rd and 2nd highest in Ukraine.

Donetsk was doing very well overall.

http://www.feg.org.ua/uploadfiles/ckfinder/files/reports/2013/FEG_report_2013_body_rus.pdf

high HIV rate

HIV rate does not match better or worse cities – otherwise, you would assume e.g. Ekaterinburg is one of the worst city in Russia, when it’s one of the best.

Here we have many factors for an HIV epidemic, including geographical ones (position relative to Silk Road from Afghanistan), response of local government to heroin rehabilitation, etc.

low birth rate

Birth rate, more often, is inversely correlated to income and productivity, both on international level, and on regional level within the same country.

So I don’t see the relevance of this.

If we would look at regional comparison in Russian Federation, for example, fertility rate in Tuva is around 130% higher than Moscow.

, otherwise it was a disaster.

Clearly no.
http://www.feg.org.ua/uploadfiles/ckfinder/files/reports/2013/FEG_report_2013_body_rus.pdf

And if we talk about city, rather than region. I can’t say beyond images (perhaps someone knows the city here?) – in images, centre of Donetsk looked attractive, clean and prosperous (for regional standards).

I’d guess a war now seems more likely than not.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-18/jerusalem-post-us-bombing-iran-will-be-massive-will-be-limited-specific-target

So much discussion about which particular type of shit is shittier. Both branches of Republicratic party are that substance and smell the same.

How does that contradict what I said? There are lots of third-rate colleges in the world, some of which have the audacity to call themselves universities. Lvov University is one of those. There are a lot fewer first-rate colleges, some of which do not call themselves Universities (e.g., MIT, CalTech).

Four more years will allow the “Trump” faction of the Repubican party to consolidate control of the party and deny power to the sewer settling pond scum types like Mitt Romney. It will allow the rise of a “Trumpism” candidate that will not have Trump’s negatives and who can develop a platform that is more favorable to the working class which should be able to get 20-30% of the black vote and 30-40% of the Hispanic vote.

That’s an extraordinarily optimistic scenario. Do you think the sewer settling pond scum types (and that’s a very apt label for them) will allow any of this to happen? Has Trump actually established a viable faction within the party? Would the Republican Party’s owners (the donors) support a Trumpist faction?

The economy always recovers. Clinton deserves no credit for the great economic expansion of the 1990s, and nor does GHW deserve blame for the recession of ’90-91.

Bob Rubin in his memoirs claims that Clinton’s fiscal policy was responsible for ’90s boom by reducing interest rates, but that’s taking way too much credit. Especially since Clinton simply built on the existing Budget Enforcement Act and GHW’s deeply unpopular tax hike.

If Perot had become President there would’ve been no NAFTA, no WTO, no PNTR for China, no NATO expansion, etc.

Trump is complaining that Iran is going to break an agreement which he has already broken, and Europe is not keeping its part of the deal either.

Iran, as a state, isn’t a threat to Israel, but Hezbollah, their proxy, certainly is. The anti-Iran hysteria only really started after Israel got waxed by them in 2006. That war exposed a lot of Israel’s weaknesses, political and military, and these are people not particularly inclined towards forgive and forget. Not to mention that their enmity to Iran has allowed them to develop relations with Iran’s Arab enemies, something unthinkable just a short time ago. So it’s not irrational.

I somehow think that Kushner’s life in New York and trips to Jerusalem entail more risks than Pompeo’s “military service”.

And the beat goes on…

“Iran to defy Uranium Stockpile Limits”

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 17, 2019

‘Why is 1 (assuming that means the defeat of the Iranians) the preference of Israeli leadership? ‘

You’re assuming Israel’s behavior is dictated by some rational calculus.

Of course Iran isn’t a threat to Israel — or by extension, to us. However, Israel has a pathological need for an enemy at the gates, and Iran has become the most plausible candidate. So she feels compelled to seek the ruin of Iran, and uses us, her slave and tool, to bring that about.

Curiously, it’s a different matter for Saudi Arabia and the Gulf Emirates. They have large, restive Shi’a minorities, and so a stable, militantly Shi’a state right across the Persian Gulf poses a genuine threat.

However, that isn’t our problem, and it certainly isn’t Israel’s. Moreover, there’s no justification at all for seeking to address it by starting a war with Iran.

And what exactly would Romney done differently? On immigration Trump has done worse than nothing, on foreign policy he is a total neocon, white people are being hounded as kulaks, other things like tax cuts are exactly what Romney would have done.

Are there any stats for urbanization in general. I get the impression that in Western Ukraine, with a few exceptions, there are the cities, then deep countryside. In the donbass there’s lots of, probably not very nice, towns with around 50k population where most people in those oblasts live.

You are correct. Lviv oblast is 61% urban, Luhansk oblast is 87% urban. While Lviv is a lot bigger than Luhansk (800,000 vs. 425,000 people before the war), about 1.5 milli0n people live in cities in Lviv oblast vs. 2 million in Luhansk oblast.

This alone should not explain a three times higher rate of HIV in Luhansk oblast, 2.5 times higher rate of syphillis, over twice higher rate of out of wedlock births, etc..

EU is many different nations. A fractured behemoth is still fractured. Plus there is a lot of hype about western militaries that is unfounded.

Anecdotes about German troops being beat by afghan security forces or German leopard tanks performing badly during Turkeys military action in Syria. Not to mention gay and fake countries. Does Poland produce any of it’s equipment?

Bush 41 not only tried to promote ‘Chicken Kiev’ but he was the first presidential spokesperson for the ‘New World Order’ (part and parcel of ‘Chicken Kiev’). 🙁

After all GHW was one of the architects of both NAFTA and bringing China into the WTO, two signature “accomplishments” of the Clinton administration.

So, Clinton was just Bush 41 light. At least people went back to work under his presidency. Perot might have been the best choice in your estimation, but even if he had won, his presidency would have been marred in incompetence and stagnation, as he had noone in congress to support his platform (at that time party support meant a lot more than it does today).

Perhaps GHW would’ve been more restrained on Yugoslavia and NATO expansion.

I suspect not. Expanding US presence around the world was as much a Republican strategy as Democratic. After all, isn’t the CIA just a front for our ‘Deep State’, and the Bushes just patsies for the Bbilderberger boys (Skull & Bones)? 🙂

So assuming he wins in 2020, what are you going to do in 2024? The disappearance of civilisation might be delayed by four years but what’s the point?

Four more years will allow the “Trump” faction of the Repubican party to consolidate control of the party and deny power to the sewer settling pond scum types like Mitt Romney. It will allow the rise of a “Trumpism” candidate that will not have Trump’s negatives and who can develop a platform that is more favorable to the working class which should be able to get 20-30% of the black vote and 30-40% of the Hispanic vote.

The problem with Trump is that he’s not going to do anything whatsoever to prevent the destruction of civilisation. Nothing at all.

Buying a little time. It’s called a rear guard action.

No better example to show what a cuck Bannon is. There he is looking on from the background like a good little goy while the jews are in charge. Truly sickening, that is why the true nationalists in Europe want nothing to do with him.

To be honest, those Iranians who want the regime preserved have every incentive to start the war on their own terms instead of going down without a fight.

It’s on a way smaller scale, but a similar situation the Japanese faced in 1941. And obviously the Japanese didn’t have international law (or justice, if you like) on their side. But those things don’t matter anyway.

Crassus, Ceasar, Pompey etc. were great men. At least compared to these nobodies. Ceasar’s works on the Gallic War and the Civil War have literary value, and are striking in their honesty, including descriptions of several scenes of Ceasar’s own troops panicking and occasionally Ceasar’s bad decisions. These men led their troops in battle and took enormous personal risks, with Crassus famously dying in his vain search for glory. Meanwhile, Trump is near illiterate and Kushner wore a designer suit under his body armor while visiting troops in Iraq. Okay, Pompeo actually served in the army, but still. This comparison is pretty ridiculous.

Why do you think is 1 (assuming that 1 means the defeat of the Iranians) the preference of Israeli leadership? Trump does nothing for nothing, he and the foreign policy establishment including Jews (plus the US military) would insist they were entitled to substantial concessions from Israel on the Palestinian issue, if America were to topple the Iranian regime and make the country harmless.

The Palestinians–especially the West Bank Palestinian–issue is the real danger to Israel, because unless Israel is willing to take the heat for expulsions, resolving it means the end of Israel as a Jewish state. The Israeli leadership are happy with having Iran as a threat to Israel, it’s their excuse why they cannot make concessions to the Palestinians and must continue with the supposedly temporary status of Palestinians.

I don’t think there is much of a long term Israeli ‘US war to crush Iran plan’ in Israel at all, the people in charge are mainly concerned with short term political considerations keeping things as they are. and the basically Jewish neocon movement takes its cue from Israeli leadership.

Iran is not going to try and fight America openly, their secret services have got overconfident after getting away with sneaky cat’s paw terrorism in Eastern Iraq, and I am sure the Iranians responsible for the recent mine attacks on tankers have been severely reprimanded.

When all is said and done, American capital and the American advances in technology resulting from all the free-money-aided development of fracking has rebalanced the correlation of world force away from oil exporting countries. Iran is a paper tiger that it suits Israel to keep around.

Are there any stats for urbanization in general. I get the impression that in Western Ukraine, with a few exceptions, there are the cities, then deep countryside. In the donbass there’s lots of, probably not very nice, towns with around 50k population where most people in those oblasts live.

Sounds impressive for the uninitiated, i.e., those who don’t know that “Ukraine’s third or fifth top university” is at the level of Shithole community college in the US boondocks. LOL.

Actually it ranks above various provincial Russian universities such as Southern Urals (Chelyabinsk), Saratov State, Voronezh State, etc.:

https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/eeca-rankings/2018

Yout analysis of the possibilities from Iran’s point of view.

‘…1. Iran do something, and America attack militarily. (Worst scenario).
2. Iran do nothing, economy continues under sanctions, and Trump is re-elected (second worst scenario).
3. Iran do something, and America does not attack militarily, oil prices raise, – and Trump is not re-elected (best scenario)

And then from America’s point of view…

This is like analyzing a choice from the peasantry’s point of view, and from the merchant’s point of view — but not from the king’s point of view.

What’s the best scenario from Israel’s point of view?

1. So it’ll be (1).

Man can’t stick to the script.

‘SENATOR TOM COTTON CALLS FOR ‘RETALIATORY MILITARY STRIKE’ AGAINST IRAN AFTER TANKER ATTACKS’

Not yet, damn it. There’ll be a bigger attack; I promise.

Depending on source, Lviv has Ukraine’s third or fifth top university

Sounds impressive for the uninitiated, i.e., those who don’t know that “Ukraine’s third or fifth top university” is at the level of Shithole community college in the US boondocks. LOL.

Lvov had certain charm and potential. Even in Soviet times there were lots of small cafes with excellent coffee, tasty and varied sweets,

Not in 1991 when I was there. It was decayed, nothing going on, long lines for simple things, crumbling, etc. Safe though, unlike parts of Tallinn in those days. People were decent.

One can compare for themselves the difference between Sovok and Ukrainian Lviv:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=xBi0zk9GGrk

But nobody promoted and preserved what the city had.

Sovoks didn’t. Ukrainians do.

Vyatrovich and his ilk that we have now is an inevitable result of decades of dumbing down.

Remind me how many top chess players emerged form Lviv after Sovok fell?

Depending on source, Lviv has Ukraine’s third or fifth top university:

https://www.4icu.org/ua/

http://www.abrostudy.com/info/ranking/top-10-universities-in-ukraine-2018/

Internationally:

Lviv is ranked above some Russian universities such as Saratov State, Voronezh State, South Urals State (Chelyabinsk), Lodz Polytech in Poland, etc.

https://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/eeca-rankings/2018

Overall Lviv is in 101st place out of 300 universities in eastern Europe, Turkey and the former USSR. So above average.

Kiev, the top one in Ukraine, is in 34th place. It outranks all the universities in the Balkans (Romania, Bulgaria, Croatia, Serbia), Latvia and Slovakia. Three schools in Poland are better.

While this is not great, it is not the picture of Africa that you describe. The most African thing about Ukraine, in fact, is the HIV rate in Donetsk.

A bit more on Jared Kushner.

According to the New York Times link below, a couple weeks ago both him and Pompeo represented the United States at Bilderberg.

Kushner’s office is the physically closest of anyone’s to Trump’s at the White House.

Jared Kushner’s right at the center of power of the United States.

[Interestingly as an aside, all three of Trump’s senior advisers are Jewish: Jared Kushner, Ivanka Trump, and Stephen Miller.]

Kushner with Trump during the Syria missile strike operation – (April, 2017)

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/31/world/pompeo-bilderberg-meeting.html

We never bothered with that in the US. Neighborhoods are largely left to decay, while considerable amounts of money has went into downtown developments like sports stadiums; and to university campuses.

The local public university is steeped in debt from its building boom, surrounded by speculative student housing for an enrollment increase that never happened.

. I suspect that the aids rate and other social ills are a result of urbanization

Lviv has 800,000 people – smaller than Donetsk but a lot bigger than Luhansk. It has a much lower HIV rate.

Sorry for being unpatriotic, I was born in Lvov, but the truth is the truth.

And you live in Tennessee now, and write utter nonsense about it. Since you know nothing about where you currently live, what you write about where you once lived is even less credible.

LOL, so scientific journals are worthless, UN stats worthless, but random internet PR stunts are the truth in the Sovok’s mind.

Authors described how HIV spreads from Donetsk to other parts of Ukraine (mostly the South and Kiev). Published by the American Academy of Sciences, author affiliations include Oxford University.

But random internet PR stunts are more credible.

The facts are simple: Israel and KSA are scared shitless of Iran (as Persians are not Arabs, when they shoot, they hit the target) and want the US to fight their war for them. It is, indeed, symptomatic that even ship owners have more credibility than the US government.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/owner-says-kokuka-courageous-tanker-crew-saw-flying-objects-before-attack-suggesting-ship-wasnt-damaged-by-mines/2019/06/14/177c0c92-8e5e-11e9-b6f4-033356502dce_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.6303415d1a91
https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/06/14/tanker-owner-contradicts-us-account-of-gulf-attack/

Well, we came to the point when even used car salesmen have higher credibility. There is a good reason for that: the last time the truth came from the US government was … not in my lifetime. Besides, when three well-known liars, the US, Israel, and KSA, say the same thing, you can be 200% sure it’s a lie. And that’s a fact.

In terms of statistics, Donetsk region was the second most economically successful region in Ukraine after Kiev, had the second most wealthy people after Kiev, it had the highest quality of life in Ukraine after Kiev, and the most educated population in Ukraine after Kiev. This is how it was before 2014 (obviously nowadays, all this has been lost).

Where did you find such statistics?

It was indeed wealthy (coal and steel provided hard currency), otherwise it was a disaster.

Prior to 2014, low life expectancy, high crime rate, high HIV rate, low birth rate combined with high % of out of wedlock births, high abortion rate, etc.

2012 life expectancy:

2010 robbery:

tuberculopsis, 2010:

Problem is, the crew and the owner say otherwise.

Would you be able to, kindly, provide a link to where I can watch and hear a member of the crew saying that?

Hahaha…owner, a?
Those types would never lie, a?

It’s reasonable that nobody sane should trust Washington. But trusting “owners”, well…..

The funny part in all this is that nobody, really, wants the truth. Nobody.

Whatever flew into that ship must’ve come from somewhere. That all that surveillance there didn’t pick that up is not even funny.
I am sure that around,say, 1000 people at least, know exactly what happened.

This exercise is actually perfect. Shows the paradigm we live in. Here it is:
Majority of people, “normies”, don’t even know it happened.
TPTBs are able to not provide proper information in spite of all the..ahm..”free media”.
People who would like to see what really happened can’t, in spite of “information highway” and that place being monitored by a lot of players.

Facts really don’t matter anymore.

He is the last chance to prevent civilization from disappearing from the face of the earth.

So assuming he wins in 2020, what are you going to do in 2024? The disappearance of civilisation might be delayed by four years but what’s the point?

I do agree with you about the urgency of the situation and the grimness of future prospects. I agree entirely. But

The problem with Trump is that he’s not going to do anything whatsoever to prevent the destruction of civilisation. Nothing at all.

I can assure you it’s the #2 issue in Australia at the very least, since the 1990’s the anti-immigration “One Nation” party has been the most important minor party in Australian politics

They got 5.4% of the vote in the most recent Australian election.

Further proof that right-wing nationalist/anti-immigration parties are never going to get any real political traction. One Nation is a long established high-profile party with a leader who is a major media celebrity and they can only persuade 1 in 20 Australians to vote for them. That’s how big an issue immigration is. When it comes to voting it’s a complete non-issue.

When it comes to voting the issue that matters to most people is money. Which party is offering me the bigger bribe? The so-called leftist parties bribe poorer voters with more handouts. The so-called right-wing parties bribe richer voters with tax cuts.

Immigration is just not an issue for the vast majority of voters.

Crassus would ultimately meet his demise along with his legions when he made a disastrous decision to launch a military campaign against Parthia (present day Iran).

I am sure Trump knows no history, but he might repeat the fate of Crassus, nonetheless.

Kushner is no Caesar.

Might be they’ve got other plans for him in the works. 😉

Omen III: The Final Conflict is a 1981 supernatural horror film directed by Graham Baker. It is the third installment in The Omen series. Starring Sam Neill, Lisa Harrow and Rossano Brazzi, the film tells the progression of the now adult Damien Thorn to a position of earthly power, set against the countdown to the Second Coming and attempts of a group of priests to kill the Antichrist. The film was released in theatres on March 20, 1981.

Plot: Following the grisly suicide of the U.S. Ambassador to Great Britain, 32-year-old international conglomerate CEO Damien Thorn is appointed in his place, an office his adoptive father, Robert Thorn, once held. Having fully embraced his unholy lineage and having run his company for seven years, Damien now attempts to reshape his destiny by halting the Second Coming of Christ. However, Father DeCarlo, a priest from the Subiaco monastery where Father Spiletto spent his final days and who has observed Damien from afar since his adopted father’s death, acquires the Seven Daggers of Megiddo that were dug out of the ruins of the Thorn Museum in Chicago. Joined by six other priests, DeCarlo plans to kill Damien while finding the Christ child.

Some things about Jared Kushner are just plain…umm…odd.

Jared Kushner’s 666 Fifth Avenue business headquarters with primary tenant Millenium Management. (See link below)

First definition of ‘Millenium’ according to Webster’s Dictionary:

Millenium: The thousand years mentioned in Revelation 20 during which holiness is to prevail and Christ is to reign on earth.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/666_Fifth_Avenue

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/millennium

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omen_III:_The_Final_Conflict

Problem is, the crew and the owner say otherwise. The crew says that the tanker was hit by a projectile above waterline. That’s exactly why it did not sink.

Bottom line is, nobody except perpetrators (the US, KSA, and Israel) is even pretending to buy this false flag. Mind you, the second false flag in the Persian Gulf in a few weeks, and a dud (again).

Most of the world vividly remembers the vial with laundry detergent that Colin Powell was shaking at the UN to “prove” that Iraq had WMD. The US and Israel need a lot better and much more believable false flag. Ask your curator whether the third one is coming soon.

I had never been in Donetsk. However, it is always written that, until 2014, Donetsk was a very successful and beloved city, by its residents. Moreover, the way its former residents write still about it today, reflects its former popularity.

In terms of statistics, Donetsk region was the second most economically successful region in Ukraine after Kiev, had the second most wealthy people after Kiev, it had the highest quality of life in Ukraine after Kiev, and the most educated population in Ukraine after Kiev. This is how it was before 2014 (obviously nowadays, all this has been lost).

Apologies for O.T. guys.
Some quotes from MSM a couple of hours ago:

The Pentagon said that the crew of one of the tankers, the Japanese Kokuka Courageous, found an unexploded limpet mine on its hull following an initial explosion. The crew abandoned ship and was rescued by the U.S. Navy’s USS Bainbridge.
“Later that day, an Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Gashti Class patrol boat approached Kokuka Courageous and was observed and recorded by a U.S. Navy MH-60 helicopter removing the unexploded limpet mine from Kokuka Courgeous,” the Pentagon said in a statement Monday.

Hardline/smart/heroic fraction within Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps pulled the stunt without getting clearance from the top, perhaps.

…this is uncanny.

Yeah it is.

Pompey was 57 when assassinated in the Mid-East (Egypt). Pompeo at 55 is close in age, with about a year and a half difference there.. Pompeo was first in his class at West Point, served as a tank platoon leader in West Germany. Pompey was a General. Facially Pompeo actually looks a lot like Pompey.

Parallels between Crassus and Trump already noted. Crassus was the patron of Julius Caeser when the latter was just starting out, helping him out financially and politically.

Jared Kushner parallels with Julius Caeser in that Trump has been his patron politically as he is just starting out (ie appointment as Trump’s senior adviser and additional office). Both Kushner and Caeser had limited involvement with the legal field, the former having a JD, the latter practiced law for a period. Each was the youngest of the three. Some similarities in appearance betwen the two.

Admittedly the military aspect is not there for Kushner at present. However, as Trump’s senior adviser he has real political power and significant influence.

Perhaps Kushner just has to grow into the role. 🙂
First Triumvirate L to R: Julius Caeser, Marcus Licinius Crassus, Pompey the Great
L to R: Jared Kushner, Mike Pompeo, Donald Trump, [and Ivanka Trump, Mike Pence]

Kushner is no Caesar.

Still,…

The billionaire real estate speculator President Trump, straining at the bit to attack Iran, has obvious parallels with Marcus Crassus. Indeed, a search of ‘Trump Crassus’ will find quite a few Anglo-sphere establishment journals which compare Trump directly to Crassus since his entry into the 2016 election. (see example linked below)

The Italian ancestried Mike Pompeo’s sirname is a literal derivative of the Latin name Pompey. Pompeo is a retired military officer, former Director of the CIA, and current Secretary of State.

…this is uncanny.

The pics didn’t come out right in my previous post (#224). If the moderator’s not able to fix that I hope he’ll indulge my reposting the pics here where they should come out okay.

The first pic on top is the First Triumvirate of Rome, L to R, Julius Caeser, Roman real estate tychoon Marcus Licinius Crassus, and Pompey the Great.

Just below in comparison is a photo-op pic also L to R, Jared Kushner, Mike Pompeo, Real Estate Speculator and Pres Donald Trump, [Ivanka Trump, and Mike Pence]

Bottom pic is the Arch of Titus (Rome) – ‘The Spoils of Jerusalem’

Pleased based Putler, if you really do read this blog, please send military assets to Iran ASAP to prevent war, just like you did in Syria. The Americans are planning an attack as we speak. Someone has to stand up to this madman. Someone has to do something. Perhaps coordinated economic and political sanctions on the United States in response to war – coordinated with China and the EU? … someone has to stop these people. When you look at a map, it is clear what the Empire is doing: Syria (attacked to prevent a Russia pipeline, IIRC); sanctioning Germany to prevent Nordstream II (Russia gas en lieu of imperial gas); Venezuela (largest proven oil reserves); Iran (large oil reserves + defiance of the US among nations in the region that have oil). They are trying to seize all the world’s oil resources to keep the rest of the world dependent on their oil as China rises to overthrow them. They are desperate. They are dangerous. Can Russia, China, the EU, Japan, India, and the rest of the world let that happen? Perhaps a joint naval taskforce of Russian and Chinese ships to deliver aid to Iran as a show of force? Amen.

“Tactical Assault” is now a new name with “Coming out of very avoidable fight you started yourself with a bleeding asshole”

I hope the guys in land bases in the Middle East have good insurance.

I’m not sure about Donetsk: I’ve never visited either. The one thing I’d noticed about it was that in Yerevan and Tbilisi (pre 2014 that is), long distance marshrutkas would advertise it on flyposters as a destination alongside Moscow, Petersburg, and Russian border towns (Volgograd, Stavropol etc), which obviously indicated that there was money to be made there. Wizzair started flying there about three years after kiev. AP will come along and say that this was a vulgar, moneyed upper-middle class able to hire tradesmen to do renovations and build dachas, whilst the rest of the population stagnated. There was, and probably still is, a lot of very unfashionable smokestack industry there; it’s one of the last places in the world that still uses open hearth furnaces for steel making, so the money made has probably been skimmed off and not reinvested. Still, steel has to be made somewhere, and not everywhere can be silicon valley. The poor people who work/worked in those plants prabably get/got about $400 pcm, so still highly profitable, even though antinquated. I suspect that the aids rate and other social ills are a result of urbanization; the population of the donbass probably reside in satellite towns of the major cities, so still urban. I can’t imagine N/Mikoliev or Odessa being much better.

Consequently, there are very dangerous runawway dynamics in any serious attempt to use brinkmanship with Iran to extract concessions (or “bring it to the negotiating table” as they call it). It may well be that we are now approaching that point.

There is a rather interesting aspect of the present situation that could be playing out regarding Iran and the United States.

It’s a bit remindful of the numerous odd little parallels (see link below) noted since 1963 between the Kennedy and Lincoln assassinations. While some have seen this as mere random chance and ‘coincidental’ others have seen it as being indicative of a very bad joke being played upon humanity by some very powerful people.

The United States since its founding in 1776 has had many features about it which closely parallels ancient Rome. Indeed, land carefully chosen circa 1790 to construct it’s capital city (Washington DC) upon, had been called ‘Rome’ complete with its own Tiber running through it. (see links below regarding Rome)

Accordingly, many of Washington DC’s monuments are modeled upon those of Rome. Amongst powerful elements of the Anglo-Saxon US power elites and hangers on, there has long existed an ideology that the United States is the ‘New Rome’, and will dominate the world as such.

Interestingly, just three months ago this past March in Jerusalem, Netanyahu would pointedly refer to the United States as ‘the New Rome’ while thanking US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo for Trump’s recognition of Israeli sovereignty over the Golan Heights. Netanyahu in these same brief remarks to Pompeo would also stress the perceived threat the state of Israel felt in regards to Iran. (see link below regarding these remarks)
First Triumvirate from L to R: Julius Caeser, Marcus Licinius Crassus, and Pompey the Great

Now, back in the very late Roman Republic, there was something called the ‘First Triumvirate’ which informally ruled over Rome. This consisted of three men: the Roman billionaire and real estate speculator Marcus Licinius Crassus, his protege the lawyer, politician, and soldier Julius Caeser, and the politician and soldier, Pompey the Great.

Crassus would ultimately meet his demise along with his legions when he made a disastrous decision to launch a military campaign against Parthia (present day Iran).

Now only Julius Caeser and Pompey were running Rome. They would engage in a power struggle (civil war) in which Caeser defeated Pompey. Pompey at age 57 would meet his end shortly after by way of his assassination in the Middle East (Egypt).

This left only Julius Caeser whom would be proclaimed ‘dictator for life’, thus marking the end of the Roman Republic, and heralding the birth of the Roman Empire.
Photo-op of L to R: Jared Kushner, Mike Pompeo, Donald Trump, Ivanka Trump, Mike Pence

This is where it gets really weird if you don’t already see where this is going.

President Donald Trump, his Senior Adviser Jared Kushner, and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, are three of the most politically powerful people in Washington DC today.

The billionaire real estate speculator President Trump, straining at the bit to attack Iran, has obvious parallels with Marcus Crassus. Indeed, a search of ‘Trump Crassus’ will find quite a few Anglo-sphere establishment journals which compare Trump directly to Crassus since his entry into the 2016 election. (see example linked below)

Jared Kushner, though (for now) without military experience, is Trump’s protege, has real and significant political power as his senior adviser, and has some legal training having a JD.

The Italian ancestried Mike Pompeo’s sirname is a literal derivative of the Latin name Pompey. Pompeo is a retired military officer, former Director of the CIA, and current Secretary of State.
The Arch of Titus (Rome) – ‘The Spoils of Jerusalem’

Wouldn’t it be ironic if Jared Kushner, as a modern day Jewish Julius Caeser, rose to the highest office of the land to rule over the ‘New Rome’? And, could this be perceived by some as a symbolic (and perhaps not so symbolic) ‘revenge’ against the actions of an old Rome?

I won’t delve here into Jared Kushner’s insistance that 666 West Fifth Street in New York be his company headquarters as the entire thing then becomes just too bizarre. 😉

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln–Kennedy_coincidences_urban_legend

https://alison-morton.com/2015/06/21/rome-and-washington-dc/

https://majorityrights.com/weblog/comments/the_new_rome_or_the_united_states_of_the_world_1853

https://www.state.gov/remarks-with-israeli-prime-minister-benjamin-netanyahu-before-dinner/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Triumvirate

https://www.macleans.ca/politics/washington/the-donald-trump-of-ancient-rome/

They’re busy preparing an attack using the tanker incident as a pretext. Could it not be obvious now that it was a false flag?

https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Iran-News/UN-officials-US-is-planning-a-tactical-assault-in-Iran-592832

Relevant to the topic: Trump is a delusional idiot. He just fired his own pollsters who showed him losing badly to Joe Biden. He then bizarrely lied, claiming that he was winning everywhere they were polling. Maybe impeachment should be on the table. He’s dangerous. But I wouldn’t expect Pence to be any better anyway, so I guess it doesn’t matter.

If Vyatrovich were the only problem Lvov has, it’s d be lucky city: after all, every village has its idiot. The decay started long time ago: in 1941 Bandera followers organized a pogrom of Jews, Poles, and everyone else who was not as mentally retarded as them. Funny thing is, German army stopped that.

After WWII Lvov was just a provincial city of a Ukrainian province of the USSR. Although its University was still better than most regional universities, it never rose to the level that it had before WWII. So much for culture and science. Svidomism and promotion of morons continued in Soviet times: Ukrainian commies were dumber and more dogmatic than Russian commies. In fact, Farion is a typical example of a Ukrainian commie, now “patriotic” nationalist: dumb, ignorant, and proud of it (the fact that she is uglier than a crocodile is just a cherry on the cake). The process accelerated after 1991, so Vyatrovich and his ilk that we have now is an inevitable result of decades of dumbing down.

Lvov had certain charm and potential. Even in Soviet times there were lots of small cafes with excellent coffee, tasty and varied sweets, candy produced by Lvov factory were among the best in the USSR, etc. But nobody promoted and preserved what the city had. Even in terms of language, svidomy morons never produced a good dictionary of Ukrainian, which would have helped to develop the language. Instead, they proclaimed their cowherd dialect with pathetic vocabulary the only official language in their boondocks. No enemy ever did as much harm to Ukraine as svidomy “patriots”. It would take decades of reasonable government to get Ukraine out of the hole they dug for it.

I don’t know Donetsk and was never there, but until 2014 Donetsk was surely one of the most important, wealthy and successful cities in Ukraine, and simply one of the best cities there?

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I discuss Tagil as an example of a city which has deteriorated in postsoviet years. It was remembered as quite attractive in soviet years, and yet now it is unambiguously ungroomed, shabby and creepy. I’m not saying the cultural level of the residents is noticeably low (at least on a visit), or that it is the worst city you can visit – but it is unambiguously less attractive externally, than how old people can remember it was in soviet years.

But cities which have deteriorated since the end of the USSR, are not something so unusual and unique. Most cities improve on balance, but net declining ones are not particularly unknown at all.

As someone who cares about air quality, that’s surely an improvement.

Overall ecological situation in Tagil will be still very bad though, and it is a bit known for that as well.

does not even measure up to Prague.

It is like saying “my car does not even look as beautiful as a Ferrari”.

Lvov has so much beautiful architecture, which most cities would dream to have. In addition, it has a historical legacy as a centre of intelligentsia, science and literature.

Which is embarrassing its present cultural level – once famous city of Banach and Ulam, is now becoming infamous for people like Vladimir Vyatrovich.

I’m not sure about scandinavia, but urban decay in the late 80s-early 90s in the cities of northen England that had suffered de-industrialisation was absolutely horrific. New-Labour stopped most of the visible rot in the centres and projects/council-estates by hosing these areas with copious amounts of taxpayers’ money. Having said that, they also subjected the, privately owned, inner suburbs of the same cities to Ceaucescu-style demolition in an attempt to replicate the massive house-price inflation seen in the southeast at the time, destroying thousands of cheap, victorian terraces: scumbags.

…West somehow manages to do decay often without visible poverty.

Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn’t. I can take pictures like the ones above in most Western countries without much effort. Or worse. The reality is that most people are pre-conditioned to ignore it in their home countries – or they literally never go there. But when you walk around Paris suburbs, London slums, Brussels, you can see drug addicts, people sleeping on the street. Recently I saw a white guy face down in front of a shopping mall entrance (English city), everyone just pretended not to see it. If I took a picture it would look a lot worse than what you put above.

My point is that creating a narrative of this-or-that system leading to dirt, drugs and decay is almost always based on conscious cherry-picking. These pictures can be (unfortunately) taken almost everywhere.

…pre-1919 city was what is the Old Town now

It was almost identical, and much more densely populated. Large parts of old Bratislava were torn down and turned into parks and river front. For example the district under the castle was completely demolished in the 60’s, replaced with roads, bridge and parks. The city center was also depopulated as office buildings/shopping were built. This is similar to most cities in the 20th century – often the central areas have less people (e.g. Vienna). People used to live on top of each other.

People like Salner exist in all societies – an old bitter revanchist whose audience is abroad (and in English and German). It tells us something about the totalitarian oppression that he was able to study and publish. Commies were basically ‘internationalist’.

The wiki (another ‘objective’ source) says that official name changed in 1919 to Bratislava, the text says nothing new. The 9th century texts for Brezaulspurch an Devin (Dowina) are well documented, there was also a massive battle there in 907. It was revived in 1830’s and adopted as a name by Slovak national movement – they used it in all of their texts, newspapers, etc… Anything can be questioned and the context gets lost. But the silly statement that ‘Bratislava’ name was somehow invented by in 1919 is wrong. Or one-sided. There was more to it.

Tagil is the russian city that’s most similar to Donetsk. Russia’s pastiche of ‘little britain’ made fun of it.

Nevertheless there’s YouTube footage of the reverbaratory furnace chimneys being blown up, and not just left derelict, due to replacement by electric arc furnaces which is evidence that someone reasonably high up the political/economic food chain gives a toss about the place (if you’re a metal bashing town, at least do it well, with the most modern equipment), even if the electric furnaces were most likely sourced from Germany. As someone who cares about air quality, that’s surely an improvement.

Horrors such as this have probably stopped (bypass the paywall whichever way you please):

http://www.exile.ru/articles/detail.php?ARTICLE_ID=16405&PAGE=1

Sorry for being unpatriotic, I was born in Lvov, but the truth is the truth. “Little” is the key word there. Paris it is not, it does not even measure up to Prague.

As to intellectual and scientific legacy, there was a Lwow-Warsaw school of math. Today there is math in Warsaw, although not first rate, but there is much less, if any, in Lvov. As far as biochemistry and cell biology go (the areas that I am most familiar with), Poland as a country is somewhere in the 50-s, whereas Ukraine is nowhere (somewhere at at the level of Cameroon).

This info is for humans, not for Ukies.
Here are the links about numerous retractions:
http://retractionwatch.com/the-retraction-watch-leaderboard/top-10-most-highly-cited-retracted-papers/
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/10/what-massive-database-retracted-papers-reveals-about-science-publishing-s-death-penalty
Here are some views on why high-profile journals have more retractions than medium-impact journals:
https://www.nature.com/news/why-high-profile-journals-have-more-retractions-1.15951
https://retractionwatch.com/the-retraction-watch-faq/transparencyindex/
Even Wiki acknowledged the massive problem:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retraction_index
Remember, retractions follow only when the authors are caught red-handed. Many untrue papers are never retracted, which does not make them true.

I’m not connected to the smallholders and journeymen of Smolandia (Småland) who constitute the bulk of Swedish-Americans. And in any case politics are saner in North Dakota (the most Scandinavian state) than they are in neighboring Minnesota. But certainly the troublesome political proclivities of any immigrant ethnic group must be addressed.

The correct choice in 1992 was of course H. Ross Perot. Realistically GHW Bush and Bill Clinton were quite similar with the main difference being Mideast policy (GHW the last President to seriously challenge Israel) and stylistic (GHW had a Greatest Generation sense of propriety, dignity, and patriotism that the Baby Boomer Bill Clinton lacked).

After all GHW was one of the architects of both NAFTA and bringing China into the WTO, two signature “accomplishments” of the Clinton administration. Perhaps GHW would’ve been more restrained on Yugoslavia and NATO expansion.

Lvov is very beautiful architecturally. Historically, it was even named “Little Paris”.

In addition, there is a very interesting intellectual, cultural, scientific legacy of this city.
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any sort of anti-Asian sentiment can no longer be repeated in polite society anymore

Isn’t this perhaps more result of change in a balance of power?

I read a similar story about Japanese in Brazil. When Japan was weak, Japanese were considered one of the lowest nationalities, and were imported as agricultural workers.

However, after post-war economic development in Japan, there was a total reversal of social position of Japanese in Brazil, and today they are considered the most prestigious (or one of the most prestigious) race in Brazil.

observations are closer to reality than yours, which however were quite legitimate as late as 5 years ago.

There will not have been improvement in many of cities which were becoming worse. I said some examples above e.g. Asbest, Tagil, Kurgan, since in 2015, but other people can write here others.

You can laugh about my selection, but my parents remember at the time of their youth (they do not come from there, but they remember), how Tagil was an attractive, groomed city and flourishing. Now it is quite opposite. Of course, compared to middle 1990s, it will be far safer and less collapsing. But this improvement is more like present reduction from its cosmically high rate of decline in the 1990s, than end of decline.

Volunteers Rebuilding Dozens of Ancient Churches in Russia’s North (Pskov)

Well it sounds good in Pskov. But I was not in Pskov.

having been beautified and SWPLfied.

Where my parents live, there is constant investment and construction. Improvement is not everywhere or generally very beautifying, but overall there is a lot of improvement. And the most impressive and luxurious residential construction is in places where tourists or visitors will not even see (unless maybe they are lost driving on the way to Ikea).

However, my point – it is not like this in every city.

I get the impression you spend more time in Israel, London,

When I visited Israel last year, I stay with my Israeli friend in Bat Yam. He immigrated to there from Saratov. I have not been in Saratov personally (maybe someone here knows?). But he says it is shit and deteriorates. So here is probably another example of a deteriorating city, and this is a major city.

Now, the funny thing is that the city where he lives in Israel (Bat Yam), is shit. And he says Bat Yam is great. So it’s possible his rating system of Saratov is even understating its situation.

London and Israel are socially opposite barometers, when it refers to Russian-speaking people you can generally meet. In Israel, more are arriving (escaping) from declining and less pleasant cities. On the extreme, that’s why they receive so many immigrants from Donetsk. On the less extreme, it’s why they receive a lot of immigrants from Chelyabinsk.

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As for what we were originally talking about. I am sure AP is correct about Lvov. Lvov will be a city with unusually high potential for the future, for various reasons (beautiful architecture, location). But I doubt, he is representatively sampling.

Why would even you want that retard re-elected to begin with?

He is the last chance to prevent civilization from disappearing from the face of the earth.

Pozsony (Hungarian name for Bratislava, official name before 1919) had over 50,000 inhabitants (most of them German) within its then city borders (whatever those were) in 1890, and an 1890s encyclopedia lists several factories (including a tobacco factory, where its mentioned that it employed 1,050 people, so not a small workshop; three machine building factories; an ammunitions factory; an “Alfred Nobel dynamite” factory, specifically mentioned to be at the outskirts of the city; textile etc. factories; a university and a few other institutions of higher learning; several secondary schools; a number of banks and other financial institutions; etc. etc.), and it also specifically mentioned a certain “Old Town” within it. By 1910, its population (again, within the then city borders) swell to nearly 80,000, with a German plurality and a nearly equivalent number of Hungarians. So I doubt that the pre-1919 city was what is the Old Town now. (Unless the Old Town is really huge and is vastly larger than the original Old Town.)

I have zero information regarding Salner’s ethnicity, merely thought it interesting that an academic of Slovak citizenship holds those opinions, when you wrote that those opinions were only held in Hungary.

Another interesting point is that the name Bratislava was created in 1837 by a Slovak scholar called Pavel Jozef Šafárik. However, he believed that the names Braslavespruch and Brezalauspruch referred to present day Bratislava (there’s no evidence for this), and that this was based on the name of a Slav prince (a vassal of the Franks) called Braslav, whose name he mistakenly believed to have been Bratislav. Anyway, the name was rarely used before 1919. Can you translate this part from the Slovak Wikipedia:

Bratislava získala súčasný názov začiatkom roka 1919. Pred rokom 1918 sa v 19. storočí volala po slovensky Prešporok, Prešpurek alebo zriedkavo Bratislava, Břetislava či Požúň, po maďarsky Pozsony, po nemecky Preßburg (súčasným pravopisom Pressburg). V maďarčine sa dodnes prevažne používa názov Pozsony, v nemčine sa dnes používa aj názov Pressburg, aj názov Bratislava.