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    "as demonstrated by our hugely disproportionate level of achievement in essentially all fields of scientific, technological, or cultural endeavor"

    Womyn have the same answer Marxists have for why the proletariat hasn't revolted yet: just wait. I'm not sure when they expect female and male intellectual achievement to balance out. Whenever the patriarchy finally dies. Better hurry, before we're all one gender as the trend seems to be going.

    I think men's disproportionate achievement could have another explanation. Not the cultural one, but something to do with hormones and ambition. I can't say there's even a "general tendency of male intellectual superiority," which I take to mean that males in general are intellectually superior to females in general. I lack knowledge of whether that's true. But what I think may be true is that men at the higher end have greater intellectual capacity than women. That is, that no woman ever could match the best male intellects.

    …what I think may be true is that men at the higher end have greater intellectual capacity than women. That is, that no woman ever could match the best male intellects.

    That’s what I was getting at. Obviously, most people of either sex, are intellectual mediocrities. That’s what “mediocrity” essentially means, after all.

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    At college in the 80's there were students' co-ops all around Berkeley. These had males and females living together in whatever arrangements they wanted. Yes, they shared bathrooms. I visited a friend in a co-op and went in to use the can. When I came out of the stall there was a guy brushing his teeth at a sink. He was embarrassed and apologetic about the fact that there weren't separate bathrooms. I felt pretty weird for both him and me, but I could see that over time people would just adapt and accept the arrangement. Perhaps that would be for the young who are terribly fascinated by the opposite sex. My guess is that all those college students have grown up now and use single-sex bathrooms.

    Now as an adult, even though I share bathrooms with my husband and sons, I would cease frequenting an establishment that had a mixed usage. Part of the joy of being a homemaker is that you get tons of privacy and that's what I consider normal.

    BTW, where are you knowing and seeing trannies? I've never seen one in my life and I lived in the Bay Area for years.

    Actually, since it appears that you went to Berkeley also, I can tell you the first time I saw a tranny was on Telegraph avenue and Dwight Way in 1970. I remember because there was a commotion, and a lot of catcalls. The guy in question was doing a sort of pre-Goth Goth look. Didn’t look too bad, but it struck me as weird.

    I live in the NE now and frequently have to go to NYC or very close to it. A couple of our associates are TG’s. Not only that, but a couple of my daughters’ classmates are TG’s. I see them on Facebook.

  • Schilling isn’t grovelling. In fact, very few people have looked more miserable than he has ever since he returned from his last suspension. The loss of the paycheck aside, I wouldn’t be surprised if his primary emotion is relief. For the moment, anyway.

    As for the rest of us …..I’m as aghast, and gobsmacked, at the sheer speed at which America has meekly acquiesced to being flushed down Saul Alinsky’s shit-clogged toilet as anyone else. Was it really only 8 years ago that the Manchurian President assured us, hand on heart, that a marriage was a sacred compact between a man and a woman? And now the inalienable right of nature’s cruelest mistakes to take a dump wherever normal people might be most horrified to encounter them is suddenly the very litmus test of human freedom.

    I say none of this is remotely feasible – not even in the idlest daydreams of 20th-century homosexuals – without covert, nigh-unbreakable, agreements set in place between government, media, and academia – with the eventual prize being the courts. I even foresee a day, not too far off, when these sinister secret handshake deals are made public knowledge, the dirty details dragged into the light for all to see. Of course, its self-righteous perpetrators will largely still be comfortably in power, which will give the conspirators a rare opportunity to exult in their crimes, rather than deny them.

  • @SPMoore8
    The reason I led with my statement about transgender rights losing money is that many women will refuse to patronize public restrooms that will allow transgenders or transvestites to use the Ladies Room. Not only women in general, but especially moms who are taking their 8 year old daughter in for a tinkle, and certainly little 8 year old girls themselves. Again, I've seen this.

    Now, it's always possible that I'm wrong, but I don't think I am, and if women stop using the public restrooms at Location X, that means they won't be spending any money at Location X, either. And that is why this particular transgender "right" will end up losing money.

    Transgender rights in general is no big deal: it simply means you can't openly mock a transgender person. But who does that? I actually know a couple of TG's and I accept them as they call themselves. Privately, I think they are insane and I feel sorry for them. But them I'm sure a lot of people's private views about me are not exactly stellar.

    At college in the 80’s there were students’ co-ops all around Berkeley. These had males and females living together in whatever arrangements they wanted. Yes, they shared bathrooms. I visited a friend in a co-op and went in to use the can. When I came out of the stall there was a guy brushing his teeth at a sink. He was embarrassed and apologetic about the fact that there weren’t separate bathrooms. I felt pretty weird for both him and me, but I could see that over time people would just adapt and accept the arrangement. Perhaps that would be for the young who are terribly fascinated by the opposite sex. My guess is that all those college students have grown up now and use single-sex bathrooms.

    Now as an adult, even though I share bathrooms with my husband and sons, I would cease frequenting an establishment that had a mixed usage. Part of the joy of being a homemaker is that you get tons of privacy and that’s what I consider normal.

    BTW, where are you knowing and seeing trannies? I’ve never seen one in my life and I lived in the Bay Area for years.

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    Actually, since it appears that you went to Berkeley also, I can tell you the first time I saw a tranny was on Telegraph avenue and Dwight Way in 1970. I remember because there was a commotion, and a lot of catcalls. The guy in question was doing a sort of pre-Goth Goth look. Didn't look too bad, but it struck me as weird.

    I live in the NE now and frequently have to go to NYC or very close to it. A couple of our associates are TG's. Not only that, but a couple of my daughters' classmates are TG's. I see them on Facebook.
  • @AnotherDad

    So I’m free to hire only white males at my company?

    So I’m free to live in a neighborhood that’s 90% white without the government sending blacks into that neighborhood via Section 8 housing vouchers?

    I could go on, but either you get the point or you don’t – or, should I say, won’t.
     
    Well said Citizen. But heck it's well beyond that. It would be "free to live in a whites only neighborhood".

    I'd have a lot more sympathy for corporate PC if normal people actually did have free association. I think as the "mainstream"--i.e. shit shoveled from NY and Hollyweird--has gone insane, there would be many movements of conservatives (Christian, traditionalist, racially conscious, etc.) to free-association themselves alternative living arrangements.

    As far as i can tell the only folks allowed to do this are ones that are long established ones like the Amish or newly expanding Jewish ones like the Hudson Valley Hasidim or some of the other Orthodox. I'd love to see some Evangelical or traditionalist Catholic community fire up and try to do what these Hasidim do taking over a town and its school system. (They wouldn't a guy like me ... but that's ok.) Somehow i expect there would be some serious push back. Of course if any white Christians tried to do the full direct analog of what the Hasidim are doing and establish a separatist *racial*-religious colony ... there would be blood.

    What do you think homeschooling is all about?

  • @ben tillman

    Over at Vox Popoli they have a lot to say about never backing down when the progressives call you names.
     
    You'd think people might notice how well that works for Trump.

    It worked for Trump, but I wouldn’t recommend it to a non-billionaire. If you don’t back down, they will hit you as hard as they can, financially. Trump’s initial comments about Mexicans cost him millions. He can afford to take that kind of hit, but even a multi-millionaire celebrity like Schilling probably can’t without a significant lifestyle decrement. That’s why he’s grovelling.

  • @SPMoore8
    The reason I led with my statement about transgender rights losing money is that many women will refuse to patronize public restrooms that will allow transgenders or transvestites to use the Ladies Room. Not only women in general, but especially moms who are taking their 8 year old daughter in for a tinkle, and certainly little 8 year old girls themselves. Again, I've seen this.

    Now, it's always possible that I'm wrong, but I don't think I am, and if women stop using the public restrooms at Location X, that means they won't be spending any money at Location X, either. And that is why this particular transgender "right" will end up losing money.

    Transgender rights in general is no big deal: it simply means you can't openly mock a transgender person. But who does that? I actually know a couple of TG's and I accept them as they call themselves. Privately, I think they are insane and I feel sorry for them. But them I'm sure a lot of people's private views about me are not exactly stellar.

    “Transgender rights in general is no big deal: it simply means you can’t openly mock a transgender person.”

    If it is no big deal, then why are they making a big deal out of it? And, clearly, they do not want for people to merely not mock them. They want people to actively participate in their deranged self-delusions, by – for example – saying that Bruce Jenner is a woman, was a woman, and has always been a woman (as for example in his Wikipedia entry).

    As with the rest of the LGBT agenda, tolerance is not thier aim. Their aim is normalization. Actually it is to destroy the very concept of “normal”.

  • @ben tillman

    Over at Vox Popoli they have a lot to say about never backing down when the progressives call you names.
     
    You'd think people might notice how well that works for Trump.

    “You’d think people might notice how well that works for Trump.”

    Or Al Sharpton.

  • @Anonymous
    What's your problem ESPN is a private company, it can do whatever it likes, if you do not want to work there you are free to work elsewhere.

    What’s your problem ESPN is a private company, it can do whatever it likes . . . .

    Bullshit. Where have you been since 1948?

  • @SPMoore8
    If money has anything to do with transgender rights, then transgender rights will ultimately fold. Most women are sensitive and compassionate but they also have to go to the bathroom more frequently than men. The first time my wife comes out of a bathroom at a restaurant or mall after meeting a bearded man in the ladies room will be the last time she will ever accompany me to to that restaurant or mall. I know, because it's happened before.

    I mean, look, as a guy, the whole thing is a joke. Women can use my restroom any time. The only impact of this latest crusade will be on women, so if you have any consideration for women you will let them determine what they want. And no cis-woman I know wants this. They may be too polite to say so, but there it is.

    People ignore this point.

    The old NE Patriots stadium was built with more lavatories for men than for women, and even though men vastly outnumbered women at the games, there were always women running into the men’s room because they couldn’t wait in the long lines for the ladies. There was never any problem, and the men took their presence with equanimity.

    Bob Kraft’s late wife Myra, a SJW of the most virulent sort, lobbied and got an equal number of restrooms for both sexes. The lines are now for the men’s, while the ladies breeze in with no waits. Turnabout being fair play, some men have tried to use the ladies and have been rebuffed. A longtime corporate owner of a luxury box lost its seats after guests using their box used the ladies facilities.

    http://masslawyersweekly.com/fulltext-opinions/2003/10/13/1224803-yarde-metals-inc-v-new-england-patriots-limited-partnership/

    • Agree: SPMoore8
  • @Discard
    Over at Vox Popoli they have a lot to say about never backing down when the progressives call you names.

    Over at Vox Popoli they have a lot to say about never backing down when the progressives call you names.

    You’d think people might notice how well that works for Trump.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    "You’d think people might notice how well that works for Trump."

    Or Al Sharpton.
    , @Concerned Scientist
    It worked for Trump, but I wouldn't recommend it to a non-billionaire. If you don't back down, they will hit you as hard as they can, financially. Trump's initial comments about Mexicans cost him millions. He can afford to take that kind of hit, but even a multi-millionaire celebrity like Schilling probably can't without a significant lifestyle decrement. That's why he's grovelling.
  • @Anonymous
    What's your problem ESPN is a private company, it can do whatever it likes, if you do not want to work there you are free to work elsewhere.

    Fine as far as it goes, but when the government allows a duopoly on what they have historically called a “public utility”, and both companies force me to finance 50 foreign language stations and 30 home shopping channels, all of which I have no interest in, these are no longer “private” companies, but utilities under the old definition.

  • @Anonymous
    I'd love to see Schilling try to badmouth LGBT rights in front of Mike Piazza. Piazza would beat the hell out of this loser.

    Schilling is 6’4″ and about 260 lbs. Piazza had better bring his A-game fisticuffs.

    What is it about NY professional athletes (Piazza, Jeter) and rumors of gayness? I would hope that New Yorkers would be leading more interesting lives.

  • @Priss Factor
    http://denver.cbslocal.com/2016/04/19/csu-pueblo-grant-neal-suspension-consensual-sex/

    To Kill a Mockingbird is old hat.

    It is now about
    To Fill a Cocking Bird.

    Another black athlete/white female “trainer” hook-up that is regularly cited on iSteve.

  • @TrumpMonster
    I don't think sharing a bathroom with woman will be the experience you think it will be. BTW that reminds me of a work experience of a (leaked to me)email sent to all the women in my company to all the ladies in our company to clean up their bathroom act i.e. Unflushed toilets, tampons, hair pubic and otherwise. Everything you would associate with men. Needless to say it is highly diverse with many south Asians

    I used to be a night janitor, cleaning up after everybody went home, back in the days when everyone was White. Women are not as fastidious as I had imagined.

  • @Reactionary Utopian

    Can we please all just agree not to use SJW terminology like “misogynist,” or “cishet?” Acknowledging those terms only aids our enemies.
     
    Hear, hear! A first step in resistance is one's refusal to use the language of the oppressor. "Cis-" means "normal," so use "normal," when such a qualification is necessary. As in, "Normal women don't want befuddled sodomites in their restrooms."

    And don’t use “Asian” for “Oriental”.
    Or “African-American” for “Black”.
    Or “Native American” for “Indian”.
    Or “LGBT” for “homosexual”.

    Go ahead and pick a fight, it’s easy. Make your case and watch them burn.

  • @Hepp
    He said he hopes nobody thinks he's racist or "transphobic." Anyone who uses that word gets no sympathy from me.

    Over at Vox Popoli they have a lot to say about never backing down when the progressives call you names.

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    Over at Vox Popoli they have a lot to say about never backing down when the progressives call you names.
     
    You'd think people might notice how well that works for Trump.
  • @dumpstersquirrel
    "We need to get it across that watching professional sports is effeminate behavior."

    Depends on how you do it. If you mock the jocks, insult them as they play their children's games, laugh the whole time, root for no one, then you own them like a boss. Also, watch with the sound off because who needs a blathery motormouth to tell you what your eyes plainly see? Lack of emotional investment is the key to watching sports like a man.

    You’re still WATCHING, not doing.

  • We need a new l;aw that forces all public places to have a separate bathroom for transgender men like they made everybody put handicap stalls in and wheel chair ramps.

    Do you have to be a certified transgender to use the women’s room? Do you get an id card from the govt saying you are officially transgender?

  • @Anonymous
    I'd love to see Schilling try to badmouth LGBT rights in front of Mike Piazza. Piazza would beat the hell out of this loser.

    (1) Piazza will beat the hell out of you for suggesting that and (2) my money’s on Schilling anyway.

  • @AndrewR
    When did ESPN's fanbase become so PC? Or so tolerant of militant PC

    I don’t think the fanbase is PC. Sports fans have always leaned conservative. It’s the leadership of Disney and ABC that’s in hock to the sexual deviance agenda. I’d guess more and more fans are getting sick of their cheerleading for homosexual “marriage” and their “courage” awards to Michael Sam and Bruce Jenner. But ESPN is still by far the best sports network, and as far as I know the others are just as PC…well maybe not AS bad. But ESPN has some great programming, and it’s the only place you can get college baseball or lacrosse, for example. Plus 30 for 30. I say watch ESPN and boycott Disney.

  • @Leftist conservative

    If money has anything to do with transgender rights, then transgender rights will ultimately fold.
     
    how so?

    Most women are sensitive and compassionate but they also have to go to the bathroom more frequently than men. The first time my wife comes out of a bathroom at a restaurant or mall after meeting a bearded man in the ladies room will be the last time she will ever accompany me to to that restaurant or mall. I know, because it’s happened before.

    I mean, look, as a guy, the whole thing is a joke. Women can use my restroom any time. The only impact of this latest crusade will be on women, so if you have any consideration for women you will let them determine what they want. And no cis-woman I know wants this. They may be too polite to say so, but there it is.
     
    Yeah, like I implied, this whole restroom thing is a farce and not supported by the majority. But that is not what my post was really about. Do you understand that?

    The reason I led with my statement about transgender rights losing money is that many women will refuse to patronize public restrooms that will allow transgenders or transvestites to use the Ladies Room. Not only women in general, but especially moms who are taking their 8 year old daughter in for a tinkle, and certainly little 8 year old girls themselves. Again, I’ve seen this.

    Now, it’s always possible that I’m wrong, but I don’t think I am, and if women stop using the public restrooms at Location X, that means they won’t be spending any money at Location X, either. And that is why this particular transgender “right” will end up losing money.

    Transgender rights in general is no big deal: it simply means you can’t openly mock a transgender person. But who does that? I actually know a couple of TG’s and I accept them as they call themselves. Privately, I think they are insane and I feel sorry for them. But them I’m sure a lot of people’s private views about me are not exactly stellar.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    "Transgender rights in general is no big deal: it simply means you can’t openly mock a transgender person."

    If it is no big deal, then why are they making a big deal out of it? And, clearly, they do not want for people to merely not mock them. They want people to actively participate in their deranged self-delusions, by - for example - saying that Bruce Jenner is a woman, was a woman, and has always been a woman (as for example in his Wikipedia entry).

    As with the rest of the LGBT agenda, tolerance is not thier aim. Their aim is normalization. Actually it is to destroy the very concept of "normal".
    , @Formerly CARealist
    At college in the 80's there were students' co-ops all around Berkeley. These had males and females living together in whatever arrangements they wanted. Yes, they shared bathrooms. I visited a friend in a co-op and went in to use the can. When I came out of the stall there was a guy brushing his teeth at a sink. He was embarrassed and apologetic about the fact that there weren't separate bathrooms. I felt pretty weird for both him and me, but I could see that over time people would just adapt and accept the arrangement. Perhaps that would be for the young who are terribly fascinated by the opposite sex. My guess is that all those college students have grown up now and use single-sex bathrooms.

    Now as an adult, even though I share bathrooms with my husband and sons, I would cease frequenting an establishment that had a mixed usage. Part of the joy of being a homemaker is that you get tons of privacy and that's what I consider normal.

    BTW, where are you knowing and seeing trannies? I've never seen one in my life and I lived in the Bay Area for years.
  • @TrumpMonster
    I don't think sharing a bathroom with woman will be the experience you think it will be. BTW that reminds me of a work experience of a (leaked to me)email sent to all the women in my company to all the ladies in our company to clean up their bathroom act i.e. Unflushed toilets, tampons, hair pubic and otherwise. Everything you would associate with men. Needless to say it is highly diverse with many south Asians

    I get all of that except the tampons. Actually, what I also get are a lot of individuals (usually Asian) who use the stalls for long loud telephone calls and laptop activity.

    The key is that I don’t care if a woman watches me go to the bathroom. But, in general, women do, and they find having a man around “creepy.”

  • @Alec Leamas
    ESPN ran a cottage industry of hating on Tim Tebow as a proxy for people they don't like. Nothing.

    Not nothing – something. We both hate them, and lots more share our sentiment. But it takes a long time for the stupidity of something like this to be visited upon the creators of the same.

    Nil desperandum, meum amicum.

  • @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    "This reminds me of last year when Clint Eastwood offered a tiny joke about the transubstantiation of Bruce Jennner and Spike TV censored him.

    Commenter Hereward points out that Schilling’s crime is lèse-diversité."

    I don't see Conservative Inc. outlets as National Review or other mainstream Conservative spokespeople publicly standing up for Schilling and trying to make this a larger issue vs. the transgender issue and its extreme attempts to create new laws exclusively for themselves. I also don't see these mainstream conservative voices willing to go to the matt to defend on conservative traditional family principles the NC law vs. Transgender bathrooms.

    I mean, if they can't even defend the substance of what Schilling stated on Facebook, then its probably going to be no different in ten yrs from the old "Well, you know, we conservatives were the original trailblazer/pioneers for Transgenders as we first opened our own specifically designed Trans. bathrooms at NR at least a decade before they were accepted into mainstream society."

    National Review or other mainstream Conservative

    They are not on our side. The can’t defend because they won’t defend. Their idiotic Don Quixote campaign against Trump is just the latest instance where their abscess-based-liquid-plasma-yellow-white-viscid-suppuration substance pustule burst and was rained down all over the rest of us.

  • @Anonymous
    I'd love to see Schilling try to badmouth LGBT rights in front of Mike Piazza. Piazza would beat the hell out of this loser.

    Up until about six months ago we used to have better trolls. The trolls back then understood false versus true premises, the basics of logic and a plausible, if upon further inspection untenable, grasp of the facts on the ground.

    But since then we have the current crop that makes halfwits look like geniuses. To call them quarterwits would be dishonest. Deciwits requires the suspension of the strictures of common sense and intellectual decor. Let us see. One-twentieth is a vicile. Then viciwits, while overly generous, is what we can employ in a pinch.

    The worst of it is that it is likely that the single author of all these posts is the viciwit champion of LGBTIQEIEIO rights.

    And we know that there are highly intelligent and capable LGBTIQEIEIO rights champions. So why are we plagued by one mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging, road-kill-eating viciwit anyway? Is Soros short on cash?

  • @SPMoore8
    If money has anything to do with transgender rights, then transgender rights will ultimately fold. Most women are sensitive and compassionate but they also have to go to the bathroom more frequently than men. The first time my wife comes out of a bathroom at a restaurant or mall after meeting a bearded man in the ladies room will be the last time she will ever accompany me to to that restaurant or mall. I know, because it's happened before.

    I mean, look, as a guy, the whole thing is a joke. Women can use my restroom any time. The only impact of this latest crusade will be on women, so if you have any consideration for women you will let them determine what they want. And no cis-woman I know wants this. They may be too polite to say so, but there it is.

    I don’t think sharing a bathroom with woman will be the experience you think it will be. BTW that reminds me of a work experience of a (leaked to me)email sent to all the women in my company to all the ladies in our company to clean up their bathroom act i.e. Unflushed toilets, tampons, hair pubic and otherwise. Everything you would associate with men. Needless to say it is highly diverse with many south Asians

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    I get all of that except the tampons. Actually, what I also get are a lot of individuals (usually Asian) who use the stalls for long loud telephone calls and laptop activity.

    The key is that I don't care if a woman watches me go to the bathroom. But, in general, women do, and they find having a man around "creepy."
    , @Discard
    I used to be a night janitor, cleaning up after everybody went home, back in the days when everyone was White. Women are not as fastidious as I had imagined.
  • Leftist conservative [AKA "Make Unz.com Great Again"] says: • Website
    @SPMoore8
    If money has anything to do with transgender rights, then transgender rights will ultimately fold. Most women are sensitive and compassionate but they also have to go to the bathroom more frequently than men. The first time my wife comes out of a bathroom at a restaurant or mall after meeting a bearded man in the ladies room will be the last time she will ever accompany me to to that restaurant or mall. I know, because it's happened before.

    I mean, look, as a guy, the whole thing is a joke. Women can use my restroom any time. The only impact of this latest crusade will be on women, so if you have any consideration for women you will let them determine what they want. And no cis-woman I know wants this. They may be too polite to say so, but there it is.

    If money has anything to do with transgender rights, then transgender rights will ultimately fold.

    how so?

    Most women are sensitive and compassionate but they also have to go to the bathroom more frequently than men. The first time my wife comes out of a bathroom at a restaurant or mall after meeting a bearded man in the ladies room will be the last time she will ever accompany me to to that restaurant or mall. I know, because it’s happened before.

    I mean, look, as a guy, the whole thing is a joke. Women can use my restroom any time. The only impact of this latest crusade will be on women, so if you have any consideration for women you will let them determine what they want. And no cis-woman I know wants this. They may be too polite to say so, but there it is.

    Yeah, like I implied, this whole restroom thing is a farce and not supported by the majority. But that is not what my post was really about. Do you understand that?

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    The reason I led with my statement about transgender rights losing money is that many women will refuse to patronize public restrooms that will allow transgenders or transvestites to use the Ladies Room. Not only women in general, but especially moms who are taking their 8 year old daughter in for a tinkle, and certainly little 8 year old girls themselves. Again, I've seen this.

    Now, it's always possible that I'm wrong, but I don't think I am, and if women stop using the public restrooms at Location X, that means they won't be spending any money at Location X, either. And that is why this particular transgender "right" will end up losing money.

    Transgender rights in general is no big deal: it simply means you can't openly mock a transgender person. But who does that? I actually know a couple of TG's and I accept them as they call themselves. Privately, I think they are insane and I feel sorry for them. But them I'm sure a lot of people's private views about me are not exactly stellar.
  • Leftist conservative [AKA "Make Unz.com Great Again"] says: • Website
    @dumpstersquirrel
    "because the plutocrats/corps know that if the people fight back against inclusiveness, then that is gonna put a hurt on the wallets of the plutocrats/corporations…."

    Another sterling argument by assertion there, lftist consrvative (misspelling intentional). That was your prior handle, right, before Steve permanently censored anything from that handle? If anything, normal people will stay away from public commercial areas because the heterophobic freaks are running the circus.

    “because the plutocrats/corps know that if the people fight back against inclusiveness, then that is gonna put a hurt on the wallets of the plutocrats/corporations….”

    Another sterling argument by assertion there, lftist consrvative (misspelling intentional). That was your prior handle, right, before Steve permanently censored anything from that handle? If anything, normal people will stay away from public commercial areas because the heterophobic freaks are running the circus.

    Why not ask me for the rationale for my argument? As opposed to spouting unintelligible gibberish. Oh, wait. Excuse me. This is isteve, after all…

  • Leftist conservative [AKA "Make Unz.com Great Again"] says: • Website
    @guest
    I don't think "inclusiveness" makes people richer. It enriches the Diversity Machine, and maybe it helps with lawsuits, I don't know. (Maybe it hurts with lawsuits, giving the entire charade the legitimacy it naturally lacks.) It does pay off in power, to certain people. But I don't see this helping ESPN's bottom line one bit.

    I don’t think “inclusiveness” makes people richer. It enriches the Diversity Machine, and maybe it helps with lawsuits, I don’t know. (Maybe it hurts with lawsuits, giving the entire charade the legitimacy it naturally lacks.) It does pay off in power, to certain people. But I don’t see this helping ESPN’s bottom line one bit.

    Please tell me that you deliberately misunderstood my post. Please.

  • Priss Factor [AKA "Polly Perkins"] says:
    @anonymous coward

    This has to be treated as a mass cult, a quasi-worship.
     
    It is. It's ancient, and has been known by many names in European history. (Gnosticism/Manicheanism/Catharism/Bohomilism/etc. The last one is the source of the English word 'to bugger', by the way.)

    France fought a 20-year crusade against the gay in the 13th century. If history is any guide, we ain't seen nothing yet.

    I think we should start a new calendar beginning in 2015 when ‘homo marriage’ became a thing. Anno Sodomini, or Anus Sodomini. Year of Sodom.

    It would be Year Zero of the GLOB order.

    Sodominion over mankind.

  • @AndrewR
    The NC law is impossible to defend on conservative grounds due to the power it takes from local municipalities.

    You can't complain about the UN or the federal government if you support allowing state laws to supersede local laws.

    The NC law is impossible to defend on conservative grounds due to the power it takes from local municipalities.

    But it’s pretty easy to defend on libertarian grounds, since it says that cities can’t make laws telling private businesses what rules they have to have for their own property.

  • @Chase
    The funny thing is, no one actually believes this. This is the Mao problem come to America. As a father, I can guarantee you, no one wants a 40-year-old penis-person pissing next to their 10-year-old.

    But no one can say that, we all must signal until death or the end of Western Civilization. Don't stop applauding now!

    Chase, Used to facilitate events at a local event center. I remember walking into the men’s room and seeing a woman sitting on a urinal peeing. She looked at me and said the lines in the ladies room were too long. Ok, but no toilet paper holder next to a urinal, so you drip dry I guess.

  • @Jefferson
    If gender is a social construct that means any man can use the women's rest room, not just Transgender people.

    I will start using the women's restroom from now on and if women get freaked out and tell me to get out, I will tell them I feel like I am a woman on the inside. I don't have to dress like a woman to feel like a woman. Gender based clothes is a social construct.

    Jefferson, My oldest daughter is a petite woman and she was tired of paying more to have her blouses dry cleaned than she was to have her husband’s shirts laundered. She informed the dry cleaner that the small blouses/shirts belonged to her son who crossed dressed and if she had to pay more she would sue. The threat worked, and she doesn’t have a son, just my grand daughter. Businesses are so cowed by the threat of the LGBT community.

  • anon • Disclaimer says:

    TIME magazine released its list of 100 Most Influential People today.

    http://time.com/4301357/ibtihaj-muhammad-2016-time-100/

    This woman is only influential because she is a devout Muslim, and she wanted to take up a sport that let her keep her body covered. She chose fencing, which doesn’t seem all that influential or pioneering these days.

    The article says that she’ll be the first American woman performing in the Olympics wearing traditional Islamic headgear, which, since it will be underneath her ordinary fencing headgear, seems like overkill.

    Someone should ask her whether she would be comfortable in a locker room with a biological man who “identifies” as a woman.

  • I used to watch ESPN, short snippets, NFL highlights, Monday Night Football if it was a compelling game. But a few months ago this middle aged plus demographic cut the cable cord along with it, ESPN. Can’t say that I miss it and as a bonus, I’m already boycotting them.

  • @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    "This reminds me of last year when Clint Eastwood offered a tiny joke about the transubstantiation of Bruce Jennner and Spike TV censored him.

    Commenter Hereward points out that Schilling’s crime is lèse-diversité."

    I don't see Conservative Inc. outlets as National Review or other mainstream Conservative spokespeople publicly standing up for Schilling and trying to make this a larger issue vs. the transgender issue and its extreme attempts to create new laws exclusively for themselves. I also don't see these mainstream conservative voices willing to go to the matt to defend on conservative traditional family principles the NC law vs. Transgender bathrooms.

    I mean, if they can't even defend the substance of what Schilling stated on Facebook, then its probably going to be no different in ten yrs from the old "Well, you know, we conservatives were the original trailblazer/pioneers for Transgenders as we first opened our own specifically designed Trans. bathrooms at NR at least a decade before they were accepted into mainstream society."

    The NC law is impossible to defend on conservative grounds due to the power it takes from local municipalities.

    You can’t complain about the UN or the federal government if you support allowing state laws to supersede local laws.

    • Replies: @anon
    The NC law is impossible to defend on conservative grounds due to the power it takes from local municipalities.

    But it's pretty easy to defend on libertarian grounds, since it says that cities can't make laws telling private businesses what rules they have to have for their own property.
  • @Vinay
    Do you know of any ESPN commentator who similarly insulted some other group and kept his job? Like, say, insulting whites?

    It just seems like what corporations do when one of their employees unnecessarily involves himself into a controversy. I see no reason to think that ESPN sees only certain favored groups as beyond criticism. Occam's razor, remember?

    Political clout is primarily a function of solidarity and willingness to speak up.

    Thus a group that numbers around 0.1% of the population has more power than a group that numbers 70% of the population.

    It’s like how a pea-sized lead ball could easily kill someone if thrown by a moderately strong person, but a beach ball could be thrown by the strongest man in the world at a newborn baby’s soft spot and not leave a bruise.

  • @Anonymous
    What's your problem ESPN is a private company, it can do whatever it likes, if you do not want to work there you are free to work elsewhere.

    You jest but this is pretty much what the average libertarian response to this would be.

  • @Mr. Anon
    "If Trump wants to hit the liberal MSM where it hurts, and win 70% of the popular vote, he should announce that his first act as president will be to direct the FCC to prohibit bundling of cable channels and allow consumers to buy ala carte."

    I think that's a great idea. It would be an important and substantial attack on the media. A lot of channels - MSNBC, CNN, and many others - might not even exist but for cable bundling. Let people vote with their wallets and stop supporting media outlets which despise them. Perhaps ESPN would stop attacking their customer base too.

    I just texted The Donald. You heard it here first.

  • @Kevin O'Keeffe
    "Trolls are heavy tonight. This is not about LGBT rights, it is about the right of cishet women to have privacy when they go to the bathroom. Of course a misogynist wouldn’t understand that."

    Can we please all just agree not to use SJW terminology like "misogynist," or "cishet?" Acknowledging those terms only aids our enemies.

    Besides which, by many standards, I would be considered a so-called "misogynist," as I do believe in the general tendency of male intellectual superiority (as demonstrated by our hugely disproportionate level of achievement in essentially all fields of scientific, technological, or cultural endeavor). But that doesn't mean that I "hate women," or that I don't recognize their right to have their own restrooms (as well as for we men to have ours).

    Can we please all just agree not to use SJW terminology like “misogynist,” or “cishet?” Acknowledging those terms only aids our enemies.

    Hear, hear! A first step in resistance is one’s refusal to use the language of the oppressor. “Cis-” means “normal,” so use “normal,” when such a qualification is necessary. As in, “Normal women don’t want befuddled sodomites in their restrooms.”

    • Replies: @Discard
    And don't use "Asian" for "Oriental".
    Or "African-American" for "Black".
    Or "Native American" for "Indian".
    Or "LGBT" for "homosexual".

    Go ahead and pick a fight, it's easy. Make your case and watch them burn.
  • @Abe

    As a father, I can guarantee you, no one wants a 40-year-old penis-person pissing next to their 10-year-old.
     
    Shame on me for it never occurring to my mind, but under the logic of transgenderism, don't all male bathrooms currently discriminate against males because certain "males" cannot functionally use some of their fixtures (i.e. urinals, but let's also not forget those wonderful sports and music venue troughs). So all male bathrooms must be torn down forthwith and replaced with "useable" ones (an argument could possibly be made they violate the Americans with Disabilities act as well). But wait- the same must hold true for such facilities in military installations, including nuclear submarines, and our military must make it its highest priority to retrofit these fixtures. Whether this add costs or makes our military platforms less stealthy does not matter- to not have male bathrooms all males can use is not who we are, and ISIS will therefore have won.

    Submarines are being retrofitted. Navy has trained up its first female Chief Petty Officer to deploy in the nuclear sub service, with female enlistees.

  • @Big Bill
    The technical term is "pre-conversion butch lesbian transsexual".

    Oooo, no, Bill.

    Intersectional fluidity and categorical queering forbid your axiological references to

    –“butch” (which presupposes “femme”–you’re dinged on gender bias there),
    –“lesbian” (which presupposes The Rubric Of Otherizing–ding ding), and
    –“pre-” (which presupposes a patriarchal imperialist oppressor linear flow of time).

    I have a more praxis-based (and therefore Marxian) approach that goes over like a shite zeppelin at Unitarian dinner parties:

    Last I checked, most building managers, architects, construction workers, plumbers, and electricians were men. Thus the creation of “women’s rooms” is a male creation.

    In order to end this horrible bipolar gender disorder reified in our Built Environment, we need not only unisex bathrooms, but ones with no walls between the stalls, which presupposes patriarchal Control of The Gaze and also causes constant Fat-Shaming. Also, removal of mirrors, which perpetuate Lookism. And since the design of western civilization’s toilets put most of the world’s Downtrodden into a state of excretory confusion, get rid of them too, and just have trenches in the floor for oversquatting.

    Imagine the billions of dollars to be made in destroying facilities that generate Excretory Repression!! And then the billions to be made in rebuilding them.

  • @Priss Factor
    Homo(tranny)mania is a quasi-religion.

    Like all religions, it comes with taboos that cannot be questioned.

    Just like Muslims throw fits over Muhammad cartoons, the homosexists throw fits about any disrespect for their kind.

    This has to be treated as a mass cult, a quasi-worship.

    This has to be treated as a mass cult, a quasi-worship.

    It is. It’s ancient, and has been known by many names in European history. (Gnosticism/Manicheanism/Catharism/Bohomilism/etc. The last one is the source of the English word ‘to bugger’, by the way.)

    France fought a 20-year crusade against the gay in the 13th century. If history is any guide, we ain’t seen nothing yet.

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
    I think we should start a new calendar beginning in 2015 when 'homo marriage' became a thing. Anno Sodomini, or Anus Sodomini. Year of Sodom.

    It would be Year Zero of the GLOB order.

    Sodominion over mankind.
  • @Anonymous
    I'd love to see Schilling try to badmouth LGBT rights in front of Mike Piazza. Piazza would beat the hell out of this loser.

    In your own porn fantasies, maybe.

    In fact, actual successful white men don’t act like that. They disagree, sometimes strongly.

  • @AnotherDad

    So I’m free to hire only white males at my company?

    So I’m free to live in a neighborhood that’s 90% white without the government sending blacks into that neighborhood via Section 8 housing vouchers?

    I could go on, but either you get the point or you don’t – or, should I say, won’t.
     
    Well said Citizen. But heck it's well beyond that. It would be "free to live in a whites only neighborhood".

    I'd have a lot more sympathy for corporate PC if normal people actually did have free association. I think as the "mainstream"--i.e. shit shoveled from NY and Hollyweird--has gone insane, there would be many movements of conservatives (Christian, traditionalist, racially conscious, etc.) to free-association themselves alternative living arrangements.

    As far as i can tell the only folks allowed to do this are ones that are long established ones like the Amish or newly expanding Jewish ones like the Hudson Valley Hasidim or some of the other Orthodox. I'd love to see some Evangelical or traditionalist Catholic community fire up and try to do what these Hasidim do taking over a town and its school system. (They wouldn't a guy like me ... but that's ok.) Somehow i expect there would be some serious push back. Of course if any white Christians tried to do the full direct analog of what the Hasidim are doing and establish a separatist *racial*-religious colony ... there would be blood.

    “I’d love to see some Evangelical or traditionalist Catholic community fire up and try to do what these Hasidim do taking over a town and its school system.”

    Devout Catholics supposedly tried this by constructing the new town of Ave Maria, from the ground up, in south Florida close to Naples, a few years ago.

    Despite the hysteria in this opposition article, https://au.org/church-state/january-2015-church-state/featured/a-catholic-city, the town has already caved to secular pressure on most town ordinances, from what I have heard.

  • @Priss Factor
    Homo(tranny)mania is a quasi-religion.

    Like all religions, it comes with taboos that cannot be questioned.

    Just like Muslims throw fits over Muhammad cartoons, the homosexists throw fits about any disrespect for their kind.

    This has to be treated as a mass cult, a quasi-worship.

    There is nothing “quasi” about it. It is part of a larger well articulated, fully formed, increasingly omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent religion.

    Let the inimitable M.G. Miles convince you:

    http://thosewhocansee.blogspot.com/2016/03/when-progressives-get-religion.html

  • @Kevin O'Keeffe
    "Trolls are heavy tonight. This is not about LGBT rights, it is about the right of cishet women to have privacy when they go to the bathroom. Of course a misogynist wouldn’t understand that."

    Can we please all just agree not to use SJW terminology like "misogynist," or "cishet?" Acknowledging those terms only aids our enemies.

    Besides which, by many standards, I would be considered a so-called "misogynist," as I do believe in the general tendency of male intellectual superiority (as demonstrated by our hugely disproportionate level of achievement in essentially all fields of scientific, technological, or cultural endeavor). But that doesn't mean that I "hate women," or that I don't recognize their right to have their own restrooms (as well as for we men to have ours).

    “as demonstrated by our hugely disproportionate level of achievement in essentially all fields of scientific, technological, or cultural endeavor”

    Womyn have the same answer Marxists have for why the proletariat hasn’t revolted yet: just wait. I’m not sure when they expect female and male intellectual achievement to balance out. Whenever the patriarchy finally dies. Better hurry, before we’re all one gender as the trend seems to be going.

    I think men’s disproportionate achievement could have another explanation. Not the cultural one, but something to do with hormones and ambition. I can’t say there’s even a “general tendency of male intellectual superiority,” which I take to mean that males in general are intellectually superior to females in general. I lack knowledge of whether that’s true. But what I think may be true is that men at the higher end have greater intellectual capacity than women. That is, that no woman ever could match the best male intellects.

    • Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe
    "...what I think may be true is that men at the higher end have greater intellectual capacity than women. That is, that no woman ever could match the best male intellects."

    That's what I was getting at. Obviously, most people of either sex, are intellectual mediocrities. That's what "mediocrity" essentially means, after all.
  • @Leftist conservative
    it doesn't matter whether transgender rights are counter to the will of the people...the opinion of the people don't matter...cuz the people don't run america---never have and never will....inclusiveness puts money into fat wallets...inclusiveness makes plutocrats and big corporations richer.....

    and trans-gender rights are mega-inclusive... putting money into fat wallets is what america is all about...always has been...in fact america was created in order to put money into fat wallets...

    This Schilling was made an example of...the lastest in a long line of similar punitive examples...the elite are telling you that if you speak out against inclusiveness you will pay the price...because the plutocrats/corps know that if the people fight back against inclusiveness, then that is gonna put a hurt on the wallets of the plutocrats/corporations....

    and as almost always, I am the only person in america to offer these opinions...curious.

    I don’t think “inclusiveness” makes people richer. It enriches the Diversity Machine, and maybe it helps with lawsuits, I don’t know. (Maybe it hurts with lawsuits, giving the entire charade the legitimacy it naturally lacks.) It does pay off in power, to certain people. But I don’t see this helping ESPN’s bottom line one bit.

    • Replies: @Leftist conservative

    I don’t think “inclusiveness” makes people richer. It enriches the Diversity Machine, and maybe it helps with lawsuits, I don’t know. (Maybe it hurts with lawsuits, giving the entire charade the legitimacy it naturally lacks.) It does pay off in power, to certain people. But I don’t see this helping ESPN’s bottom line one bit.
     
    Please tell me that you deliberately misunderstood my post. Please.
  • @Citizen of a Silly Country
    So I'm free to hire only white males at my company?

    So I'm free to live in a neighborhood that's 90% white without the government sending blacks into that neighborhood via Section 8 housing vouchers?

    I could go on, but either you get the point or you don't - or, should I say, won't.

    So I’m free to hire only white males at my company?

    So I’m free to live in a neighborhood that’s 90% white without the government sending blacks into that neighborhood via Section 8 housing vouchers?

    I could go on, but either you get the point or you don’t – or, should I say, won’t.

    Well said Citizen. But heck it’s well beyond that. It would be “free to live in a whites only neighborhood”.

    I’d have a lot more sympathy for corporate PC if normal people actually did have free association. I think as the “mainstream”–i.e. shit shoveled from NY and Hollyweird–has gone insane, there would be many movements of conservatives (Christian, traditionalist, racially conscious, etc.) to free-association themselves alternative living arrangements.

    As far as i can tell the only folks allowed to do this are ones that are long established ones like the Amish or newly expanding Jewish ones like the Hudson Valley Hasidim or some of the other Orthodox. I’d love to see some Evangelical or traditionalist Catholic community fire up and try to do what these Hasidim do taking over a town and its school system. (They wouldn’t a guy like me … but that’s ok.) Somehow i expect there would be some serious push back. Of course if any white Christians tried to do the full direct analog of what the Hasidim are doing and establish a separatist *racial*-religious colony … there would be blood.

    • Replies: @penntothal
    "I’d love to see some Evangelical or traditionalist Catholic community fire up and try to do what these Hasidim do taking over a town and its school system."

    Devout Catholics supposedly tried this by constructing the new town of Ave Maria, from the ground up, in south Florida close to Naples, a few years ago.

    Despite the hysteria in this opposition article, https://au.org/church-state/january-2015-church-state/featured/a-catholic-city, the town has already caved to secular pressure on most town ordinances, from what I have heard.
    , @Formerly CARealist
    What do you think homeschooling is all about?
  • @anon
    The logic of this is unisex restrooms.

    Which nobody really wants, but I guess it makes sense to dismantle a system that has worked pretty well for everybody for as long as anyone can remember just because of less than 1% of the population that just won't shut up.

    “Which nobody really wants, but I guess it makes sense to dismantle a system that has worked pretty well for everybody for as long as anyone can remember just because of less than 1% of the population that just won’t shut up.”

    The tiny number of male trannies I’ve dealt with are obnoxious, attention-whoring loudmouths, but their power comes strictly from the heterophobic gaystream media. Never normalize these freaks — their identity and self-esteem depends on feeling like a victimized, unaccepted outsider, and once the rest of us pretend they’re normal, they will do things even more disturbing to us and/or themselves, to push our limits, to restore their outsider status. Our ancestors knew best the place for these mentally ill degenerates: the circus freakshow.

  • @Leftist conservative
    it doesn't matter whether transgender rights are counter to the will of the people...the opinion of the people don't matter...cuz the people don't run america---never have and never will....inclusiveness puts money into fat wallets...inclusiveness makes plutocrats and big corporations richer.....

    and trans-gender rights are mega-inclusive... putting money into fat wallets is what america is all about...always has been...in fact america was created in order to put money into fat wallets...

    This Schilling was made an example of...the lastest in a long line of similar punitive examples...the elite are telling you that if you speak out against inclusiveness you will pay the price...because the plutocrats/corps know that if the people fight back against inclusiveness, then that is gonna put a hurt on the wallets of the plutocrats/corporations....

    and as almost always, I am the only person in america to offer these opinions...curious.

    “because the plutocrats/corps know that if the people fight back against inclusiveness, then that is gonna put a hurt on the wallets of the plutocrats/corporations….”

    Another sterling argument by assertion there, lftist consrvative (misspelling intentional). That was your prior handle, right, before Steve permanently censored anything from that handle? If anything, normal people will stay away from public commercial areas because the heterophobic freaks are running the circus.

    • Replies: @Leftist conservative

    “because the plutocrats/corps know that if the people fight back against inclusiveness, then that is gonna put a hurt on the wallets of the plutocrats/corporations….”

    Another sterling argument by assertion there, lftist consrvative (misspelling intentional). That was your prior handle, right, before Steve permanently censored anything from that handle? If anything, normal people will stay away from public commercial areas because the heterophobic freaks are running the circus.
     

    Why not ask me for the rationale for my argument? As opposed to spouting unintelligible gibberish. Oh, wait. Excuse me. This is isteve, after all...
  • @Hereward
    Lèse-diversité, as it were.

    I hope that some literate soul will make the OED aware of your rather clever neologism. It is, alas, probably a useful addition to the English language, so it should go into the next edition, if there is one.

  • @Maj. Kong
    Barack Obama won two elections. While many of us will loudly complain about corporate cultural Marxism, the general public is going to nod their heads quietly. Virtue signaling is cheap marketing.

    We need to get it across that watching professional sports is effeminate behavior.

    “We need to get it across that watching professional sports is effeminate behavior.”

    Depends on how you do it. If you mock the jocks, insult them as they play their children’s games, laugh the whole time, root for no one, then you own them like a boss. Also, watch with the sound off because who needs a blathery motormouth to tell you what your eyes plainly see? Lack of emotional investment is the key to watching sports like a man.

    • Replies: @Truth
    You're still WATCHING, not doing.
  • @Jim Don Bob
    ESPN should enjoy their virtue signalling while it lasts. They lost 7% of their subscribers last year; half of the people who pay for their service ($5-6 a month as part of a "premium bundle") do not even watch ESPN . They have committed to spending billions on broadcasting rights.

    If Trump wants to hit the liberal MSM where it hurts, and win 70% of the popular vote, he should announce that his first act as president will be to direct the FCC to prohibit bundling of cable channels and allow consumers to buy ala carte.

    2) The male SJWs on ESPN were up in arms today because some hockey player called a ref a homo yesterday, although none of them could bring themselves to use the word itself. Bunch of pansies.

    It is “a la carte“, not “ala carte”. This is a trivial criticism in a very good letter.

  • @Spmoore8
    Trolls are heavy tonight. This is not about LGBT rights, it is about the right of cishet women to have privacy when they go to the bathroom. Of course a misogynist wouldn't understand that.

    Trolls are heavy tonight. This is not about LGBT rights, it is about the right of cishet women to have privacy when they go to the bathroom. Of course a misogynist wouldn’t understand that.

    Can we please all just agree not to use SJW terminology like “misogynist,” or “cishet?” Acknowledging those terms only aids our enemies.

    Besides which, by many standards, I would be considered a so-called “misogynist,” as I do believe in the general tendency of male intellectual superiority (as demonstrated by our hugely disproportionate level of achievement in essentially all fields of scientific, technological, or cultural endeavor). But that doesn’t mean that I “hate women,” or that I don’t recognize their right to have their own restrooms (as well as for we men to have ours).

    • Replies: @guest
    "as demonstrated by our hugely disproportionate level of achievement in essentially all fields of scientific, technological, or cultural endeavor"

    Womyn have the same answer Marxists have for why the proletariat hasn't revolted yet: just wait. I'm not sure when they expect female and male intellectual achievement to balance out. Whenever the patriarchy finally dies. Better hurry, before we're all one gender as the trend seems to be going.

    I think men's disproportionate achievement could have another explanation. Not the cultural one, but something to do with hormones and ambition. I can't say there's even a "general tendency of male intellectual superiority," which I take to mean that males in general are intellectually superior to females in general. I lack knowledge of whether that's true. But what I think may be true is that men at the higher end have greater intellectual capacity than women. That is, that no woman ever could match the best male intellects.
    , @Reactionary Utopian

    Can we please all just agree not to use SJW terminology like “misogynist,” or “cishet?” Acknowledging those terms only aids our enemies.
     
    Hear, hear! A first step in resistance is one's refusal to use the language of the oppressor. "Cis-" means "normal," so use "normal," when such a qualification is necessary. As in, "Normal women don't want befuddled sodomites in their restrooms."
  • @Jefferson
    If gender is a social construct that means any man can use the women's rest room, not just Transgender people.

    I will start using the women's restroom from now on and if women get freaked out and tell me to get out, I will tell them I feel like I am a woman on the inside. I don't have to dress like a woman to feel like a woman. Gender based clothes is a social construct.

    I will start using the women’s restroom from now on and if women get freaked out and tell me to get out, I will tell them I feel like I am a woman on the inside. I don’t have to dress like a woman to feel like a woman. Gender based clothes is a social construct.

    I don’t see why one couldn’t just claim to be “gender fluid”,* and claim that one’s sense of female identity gets triggered each time one sees the little woman-in-a-skirt pictogram affixed to each women’s restroom door. It seems like a flawless argument for allowing any man to use the woman’s restroom anytime he wants, without any burden of otherwise adopting a womanly identity (flawless by the dubious standards of SJW logic, that is).

    *The phrase “gender fluid” always makes me think of semen, which I could frankly do without

  • @Vinay
    Do you know of any ESPN commentator who similarly insulted some other group and kept his job? Like, say, insulting whites?

    It just seems like what corporations do when one of their employees unnecessarily involves himself into a controversy. I see no reason to think that ESPN sees only certain favored groups as beyond criticism. Occam's razor, remember?

    ESPN ran a cottage industry of hating on Tim Tebow as a proxy for people they don’t like. Nothing.

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson
    Not nothing - something. We both hate them, and lots more share our sentiment. But it takes a long time for the stupidity of something like this to be visited upon the creators of the same.

    Nil desperandum, meum amicum.
  • @The preferred nomenclature is...
    As a self-respecting White Man you are still watching ESPN why? One of the best things I ever did was cut the cable cord.

    I hang with no one anymore that is a sports fan. It was not intentional, it just happened the further right I moved. I am assuming that is the case for many of the folks here.

    Exactly…cut them all….totally liberating…..relaxing…

  • @Superman
    ESPN's fans aren't PC at all. This corporation, like most others, has decided to forgo profits and insult their customers in favor of social activism.

    You aren’t on the money with that “ESPN’s fans aren’t PC at all comment. Many under 45-ish actually are. After all, they’ve been fed crap in school AND they hear their heroes, former pros used as commentators on the network, speaking SJW all day.

  • @Leftist conservative
    it doesn't matter whether transgender rights are counter to the will of the people...the opinion of the people don't matter...cuz the people don't run america---never have and never will....inclusiveness puts money into fat wallets...inclusiveness makes plutocrats and big corporations richer.....

    and trans-gender rights are mega-inclusive... putting money into fat wallets is what america is all about...always has been...in fact america was created in order to put money into fat wallets...

    This Schilling was made an example of...the lastest in a long line of similar punitive examples...the elite are telling you that if you speak out against inclusiveness you will pay the price...because the plutocrats/corps know that if the people fight back against inclusiveness, then that is gonna put a hurt on the wallets of the plutocrats/corporations....

    and as almost always, I am the only person in america to offer these opinions...curious.

    If money has anything to do with transgender rights, then transgender rights will ultimately fold. Most women are sensitive and compassionate but they also have to go to the bathroom more frequently than men. The first time my wife comes out of a bathroom at a restaurant or mall after meeting a bearded man in the ladies room will be the last time she will ever accompany me to to that restaurant or mall. I know, because it’s happened before.

    I mean, look, as a guy, the whole thing is a joke. Women can use my restroom any time. The only impact of this latest crusade will be on women, so if you have any consideration for women you will let them determine what they want. And no cis-woman I know wants this. They may be too polite to say so, but there it is.

    • Agree: Triumph104
    • Replies: @Leftist conservative

    If money has anything to do with transgender rights, then transgender rights will ultimately fold.
     
    how so?

    Most women are sensitive and compassionate but they also have to go to the bathroom more frequently than men. The first time my wife comes out of a bathroom at a restaurant or mall after meeting a bearded man in the ladies room will be the last time she will ever accompany me to to that restaurant or mall. I know, because it’s happened before.

    I mean, look, as a guy, the whole thing is a joke. Women can use my restroom any time. The only impact of this latest crusade will be on women, so if you have any consideration for women you will let them determine what they want. And no cis-woman I know wants this. They may be too polite to say so, but there it is.
     
    Yeah, like I implied, this whole restroom thing is a farce and not supported by the majority. But that is not what my post was really about. Do you understand that?
    , @TrumpMonster
    I don't think sharing a bathroom with woman will be the experience you think it will be. BTW that reminds me of a work experience of a (leaked to me)email sent to all the women in my company to all the ladies in our company to clean up their bathroom act i.e. Unflushed toilets, tampons, hair pubic and otherwise. Everything you would associate with men. Needless to say it is highly diverse with many south Asians
    , @Brutusale
    People ignore this point.

    The old NE Patriots stadium was built with more lavatories for men than for women, and even though men vastly outnumbered women at the games, there were always women running into the men's room because they couldn't wait in the long lines for the ladies. There was never any problem, and the men took their presence with equanimity.

    Bob Kraft's late wife Myra, a SJW of the most virulent sort, lobbied and got an equal number of restrooms for both sexes. The lines are now for the men's, while the ladies breeze in with no waits. Turnabout being fair play, some men have tried to use the ladies and have been rebuffed. A longtime corporate owner of a luxury box lost its seats after guests using their box used the ladies facilities.

    http://masslawyersweekly.com/fulltext-opinions/2003/10/13/1224803-yarde-metals-inc-v-new-england-patriots-limited-partnership/
  • @Hepp
    He said he hopes nobody thinks he's racist or "transphobic." Anyone who uses that word gets no sympathy from me.

    That after saying “a man is a man,” really pathetic attempt at backtracking.

  • “This reminds me of last year when Clint Eastwood offered a tiny joke about the transubstantiation of Bruce Jennner and Spike TV censored him.

    Commenter Hereward points out that Schilling’s crime is lèse-diversité.”

    I don’t see Conservative Inc. outlets as National Review or other mainstream Conservative spokespeople publicly standing up for Schilling and trying to make this a larger issue vs. the transgender issue and its extreme attempts to create new laws exclusively for themselves. I also don’t see these mainstream conservative voices willing to go to the matt to defend on conservative traditional family principles the NC law vs. Transgender bathrooms.

    I mean, if they can’t even defend the substance of what Schilling stated on Facebook, then its probably going to be no different in ten yrs from the old “Well, you know, we conservatives were the original trailblazer/pioneers for Transgenders as we first opened our own specifically designed Trans. bathrooms at NR at least a decade before they were accepted into mainstream society.”

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    The NC law is impossible to defend on conservative grounds due to the power it takes from local municipalities.

    You can't complain about the UN or the federal government if you support allowing state laws to supersede local laws.

    , @Charles Erwin Wilson

    National Review or other mainstream Conservative
     
    They are not on our side. The can't defend because they won't defend. Their idiotic Don Quixote campaign against Trump is just the latest instance where their abscess-based-liquid-plasma-yellow-white-viscid-suppuration substance pustule burst and was rained down all over the rest of us.
  • @Jefferson
    If gender is a social construct that means any man can use the women's rest room, not just Transgender people.

    I will start using the women's restroom from now on and if women get freaked out and tell me to get out, I will tell them I feel like I am a woman on the inside. I don't have to dress like a woman to feel like a woman. Gender based clothes is a social construct.

    The technical term is “pre-conversion butch lesbian transsexual”.

    • Replies: @Olorin
    Oooo, no, Bill.

    Intersectional fluidity and categorical queering forbid your axiological references to

    --"butch" (which presupposes "femme"--you're dinged on gender bias there),
    --"lesbian" (which presupposes The Rubric Of Otherizing--ding ding), and
    --"pre-" (which presupposes a patriarchal imperialist oppressor linear flow of time).


    I have a more praxis-based (and therefore Marxian) approach that goes over like a shite zeppelin at Unitarian dinner parties:

    Last I checked, most building managers, architects, construction workers, plumbers, and electricians were men. Thus the creation of "women's rooms" is a male creation.

    In order to end this horrible bipolar gender disorder reified in our Built Environment, we need not only unisex bathrooms, but ones with no walls between the stalls, which presupposes patriarchal Control of The Gaze and also causes constant Fat-Shaming. Also, removal of mirrors, which perpetuate Lookism. And since the design of western civilization's toilets put most of the world's Downtrodden into a state of excretory confusion, get rid of them too, and just have trenches in the floor for oversquatting.

    Imagine the billions of dollars to be made in destroying facilities that generate Excretory Repression!! And then the billions to be made in rebuilding them.

  • Not all gay people are on board with transgender ideology, if that incoherent postmodern mess can even be called an ideology.

    Some gay news-and-discussion sites have a strong contingent against the whole concept of LGBT, who believe transgender and “gender identity” is a homophobic and regressive concept. Obviously, denying biological sex exists does not sit easily with the idea of being attracted to the same biological sex. Moreover, when we see 14-year-old girls removing their breasts because they like other girls, transgender starts to look a lot like gay conversion therapy.

    Jim Fouratt, the founder of the Gay Liberation Front, called transsexuals “mutilated men” at a speech in 2000.

    Here’s a good read: “How did the T get in LGBT?” http://www.salon.com/2007/10/08/lgbt/

  • @Superman
    ESPN's fans aren't PC at all. This corporation, like most others, has decided to forgo profits and insult their customers in favor of social activism.

    Did you read my last few words? ESPN fans might not be PC per se but why aren’t they raising hell over what ESPN did to Schilling?

  • @Jim Don Bob
    ESPN should enjoy their virtue signalling while it lasts. They lost 7% of their subscribers last year; half of the people who pay for their service ($5-6 a month as part of a "premium bundle") do not even watch ESPN . They have committed to spending billions on broadcasting rights.

    If Trump wants to hit the liberal MSM where it hurts, and win 70% of the popular vote, he should announce that his first act as president will be to direct the FCC to prohibit bundling of cable channels and allow consumers to buy ala carte.

    2) The male SJWs on ESPN were up in arms today because some hockey player called a ref a homo yesterday, although none of them could bring themselves to use the word itself. Bunch of pansies.

    “If Trump wants to hit the liberal MSM where it hurts, and win 70% of the popular vote, he should announce that his first act as president will be to direct the FCC to prohibit bundling of cable channels and allow consumers to buy ala carte.”

    I think that’s a great idea. It would be an important and substantial attack on the media. A lot of channels – MSNBC, CNN, and many others – might not even exist but for cable bundling. Let people vote with their wallets and stop supporting media outlets which despise them. Perhaps ESPN would stop attacking their customer base too.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    I just texted The Donald. You heard it here first.
  • @Anonymous
    What's your problem ESPN is a private company, it can do whatever it likes, if you do not want to work there you are free to work elsewhere.

    So I’m free to hire only white males at my company?

    So I’m free to live in a neighborhood that’s 90% white without the government sending blacks into that neighborhood via Section 8 housing vouchers?

    I could go on, but either you get the point or you don’t – or, should I say, won’t.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad

    So I’m free to hire only white males at my company?

    So I’m free to live in a neighborhood that’s 90% white without the government sending blacks into that neighborhood via Section 8 housing vouchers?

    I could go on, but either you get the point or you don’t – or, should I say, won’t.
     
    Well said Citizen. But heck it's well beyond that. It would be "free to live in a whites only neighborhood".

    I'd have a lot more sympathy for corporate PC if normal people actually did have free association. I think as the "mainstream"--i.e. shit shoveled from NY and Hollyweird--has gone insane, there would be many movements of conservatives (Christian, traditionalist, racially conscious, etc.) to free-association themselves alternative living arrangements.

    As far as i can tell the only folks allowed to do this are ones that are long established ones like the Amish or newly expanding Jewish ones like the Hudson Valley Hasidim or some of the other Orthodox. I'd love to see some Evangelical or traditionalist Catholic community fire up and try to do what these Hasidim do taking over a town and its school system. (They wouldn't a guy like me ... but that's ok.) Somehow i expect there would be some serious push back. Of course if any white Christians tried to do the full direct analog of what the Hasidim are doing and establish a separatist *racial*-religious colony ... there would be blood.
  • @The preferred nomenclature is...
    As a self-respecting White Man you are still watching ESPN why? One of the best things I ever did was cut the cable cord.

    I hang with no one anymore that is a sports fan. It was not intentional, it just happened the further right I moved. I am assuming that is the case for many of the folks here.

    I wouldn’t call it “right,” but more a sense of escaping the consumerist world. The idea of sitting for hours and watching other people do this, instead of reading, walking, working? You might read an essay called “Gin, Television, and Social Surplus.” It explains probably what you have experienced.

  • @Abe

    As a father, I can guarantee you, no one wants a 40-year-old penis-person pissing next to their 10-year-old.
     
    Shame on me for it never occurring to my mind, but under the logic of transgenderism, don't all male bathrooms currently discriminate against males because certain "males" cannot functionally use some of their fixtures (i.e. urinals, but let's also not forget those wonderful sports and music venue troughs). So all male bathrooms must be torn down forthwith and replaced with "useable" ones (an argument could possibly be made they violate the Americans with Disabilities act as well). But wait- the same must hold true for such facilities in military installations, including nuclear submarines, and our military must make it its highest priority to retrofit these fixtures. Whether this add costs or makes our military platforms less stealthy does not matter- to not have male bathrooms all males can use is not who we are, and ISIS will therefore have won.

    And what if our enemies retrofit faster than we do? We cannot allow a bathroom fixture gap!

  • Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    If I understand this bathroom issue correctly, a man can use a female bathroom irrespective of being a pre-op tranny/transvestite. It is merely his mental disposition. So a male need not dress up like a female, at all, to any extent.

    Last night Dennis Miller on Bill O’Reilly: “I think we live in the age of the menacing do-gooder… I think the country has crashed in a primal way and I don’t think it’s coming back.”

    http://video.foxnews.com/v/4854930960001/miller-time-presidential-match-ups/?playlist_id=931078410001#sp=show-clips

  • @Anonymous
    What's your problem ESPN is a private company, it can do whatever it likes, if you do not want to work there you are free to work elsewhere.

    What – does ESPN think its running an Alabama lunch counter in 1960?

  • @Stephen R. Diamond
    The logic of this is unisex restrooms.

    The logic of this is unisex restrooms.

    Which nobody really wants, but I guess it makes sense to dismantle a system that has worked pretty well for everybody for as long as anyone can remember just because of less than 1% of the population that just won’t shut up.

    • Replies: @dumpstersquirrel
    "Which nobody really wants, but I guess it makes sense to dismantle a system that has worked pretty well for everybody for as long as anyone can remember just because of less than 1% of the population that just won’t shut up."

    The tiny number of male trannies I've dealt with are obnoxious, attention-whoring loudmouths, but their power comes strictly from the heterophobic gaystream media. Never normalize these freaks -- their identity and self-esteem depends on feeling like a victimized, unaccepted outsider, and once the rest of us pretend they're normal, they will do things even more disturbing to us and/or themselves, to push our limits, to restore their outsider status. Our ancestors knew best the place for these mentally ill degenerates: the circus freakshow.
  • I used to think “inclusive ” meant “open-minded about dissenting views”. My bad.

  • Maybe women need to learn the pleasures of sharing their
    lavatories with entitled, 200 pound, bearded trannies and
    trannie pretenders. Female libtards need to pay up too.
    Daddy’s checked out. Too much football on the brain.

  • Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    I really like it when putatively objective and neutral news articles use words like “offensive” for the expression of mainstream political/social views.

    excuse me, but if *gender* is in the crazed mind of the beholder then “offensive” certainly is.

    and I for one am offended by ESPN and this very article. when is the NYT going to start referring to ESPN’s offensive decision to silence speech and their own offensive decision to describe said speech as “offensive”? offense, offended, offensive. i demand a seat at the table.

  • Leftist conservative [AKA "Make Unz.com Great Again"] says: • Website

    it doesn’t matter whether transgender rights are counter to the will of the people…the opinion of the people don’t matter…cuz the people don’t run america—never have and never will….inclusiveness puts money into fat wallets…inclusiveness makes plutocrats and big corporations richer…..

    and trans-gender rights are mega-inclusive… putting money into fat wallets is what america is all about…always has been…in fact america was created in order to put money into fat wallets…

    This Schilling was made an example of…the lastest in a long line of similar punitive examples…the elite are telling you that if you speak out against inclusiveness you will pay the price…because the plutocrats/corps know that if the people fight back against inclusiveness, then that is gonna put a hurt on the wallets of the plutocrats/corporations….

    and as almost always, I am the only person in america to offer these opinions…curious.

    • Replies: @SPMoore8
    If money has anything to do with transgender rights, then transgender rights will ultimately fold. Most women are sensitive and compassionate but they also have to go to the bathroom more frequently than men. The first time my wife comes out of a bathroom at a restaurant or mall after meeting a bearded man in the ladies room will be the last time she will ever accompany me to to that restaurant or mall. I know, because it's happened before.

    I mean, look, as a guy, the whole thing is a joke. Women can use my restroom any time. The only impact of this latest crusade will be on women, so if you have any consideration for women you will let them determine what they want. And no cis-woman I know wants this. They may be too polite to say so, but there it is.
    , @dumpstersquirrel
    "because the plutocrats/corps know that if the people fight back against inclusiveness, then that is gonna put a hurt on the wallets of the plutocrats/corporations…."

    Another sterling argument by assertion there, lftist consrvative (misspelling intentional). That was your prior handle, right, before Steve permanently censored anything from that handle? If anything, normal people will stay away from public commercial areas because the heterophobic freaks are running the circus.
    , @guest
    I don't think "inclusiveness" makes people richer. It enriches the Diversity Machine, and maybe it helps with lawsuits, I don't know. (Maybe it hurts with lawsuits, giving the entire charade the legitimacy it naturally lacks.) It does pay off in power, to certain people. But I don't see this helping ESPN's bottom line one bit.
  • The real shame is that Curt might not get into the HOF even though he’s probably one of the ten best pitchers of all time (if you properly value playoff performance).

    Screw ESPN. Cancel and send them a note explaining why.

  • Amazing how quickly the culture changes. Would anyone have gotten fired over this 10 years ago? 5 years ago?

  • The picture from facebook is pretty funny:

  • @Superman
    ESPN's fans aren't PC at all. This corporation, like most others, has decided to forgo profits and insult their customers in favor of social activism.

    Barack Obama won two elections. While many of us will loudly complain about corporate cultural Marxism, the general public is going to nod their heads quietly. Virtue signaling is cheap marketing.

    We need to get it across that watching professional sports is effeminate behavior.

    • Replies: @dumpstersquirrel
    "We need to get it across that watching professional sports is effeminate behavior."

    Depends on how you do it. If you mock the jocks, insult them as they play their children's games, laugh the whole time, root for no one, then you own them like a boss. Also, watch with the sound off because who needs a blathery motormouth to tell you what your eyes plainly see? Lack of emotional investment is the key to watching sports like a man.
  • @candid_observer

    What’s your problem ESPN is a private company, it can do whatever it likes, if you do not want to work there you are free to work elsewhere.

     

    Yeah, you're right.

    Which is why all the leftists in Hollywood should positively celebrate the days of the blacklist in Hollywood -- it's just private corporations doing what they have every right in the world to do.

    I don't know why so many of those leftists got it in their crazy heads that it was a time of fascism, a dark epoch in American history, and a stain upon the honor of our American way of life.

    What were all those insane editorials and movies decrying that era all about, anyway?

    I know why: because their enemies were doing the blacklisting. They weren’t, and never would be, concerned about the Brown Scare.

  • How does one possess a half-monopoly?

  • @AndrewR
    When did ESPN's fanbase become so PC? Or so tolerant of militant PC

    ESPN’s fans aren’t PC at all. This corporation, like most others, has decided to forgo profits and insult their customers in favor of social activism.

    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    Barack Obama won two elections. While many of us will loudly complain about corporate cultural Marxism, the general public is going to nod their heads quietly. Virtue signaling is cheap marketing.

    We need to get it across that watching professional sports is effeminate behavior.
    , @AndrewR
    Did you read my last few words? ESPN fans might not be PC per se but why aren't they raising hell over what ESPN did to Schilling?
    , @e
    You aren't on the money with that "ESPN's fans aren't PC at all comment. Many under 45-ish actually are. After all, they've been fed crap in school AND they hear their heroes, former pros used as commentators on the network, speaking SJW all day.
  • @Anonymous
    What's your problem ESPN is a private company, it can do whatever it likes, if you do not want to work there you are free to work elsewhere.

    What’s your problem ESPN is a private company, it can do whatever it likes, if you do not want to work there you are free to work elsewhere.

    Yeah, you’re right.

    Which is why all the leftists in Hollywood should positively celebrate the days of the blacklist in Hollywood — it’s just private corporations doing what they have every right in the world to do.

    I don’t know why so many of those leftists got it in their crazy heads that it was a time of fascism, a dark epoch in American history, and a stain upon the honor of our American way of life.

    What were all those insane editorials and movies decrying that era all about, anyway?

    • Replies: @guest
    I know why: because their enemies were doing the blacklisting. They weren't, and never would be, concerned about the Brown Scare.
  • The problem with the tranny/gay/black religion is that it takes so much Inquisitional resources to keep everyone in line that if enthusiasm flags on the witchhunt lots of badthink will happen.

  • Priss Factor [AKA "Polly Perkins"] says:

    We now believe in Fairy Tales.

  • @Anonymous
    I'd love to see Schilling try to badmouth LGBT rights in front of Mike Piazza. Piazza would beat the hell out of this loser.

    Trolls are heavy tonight. This is not about LGBT rights, it is about the right of cishet women to have privacy when they go to the bathroom. Of course a misogynist wouldn’t understand that.

    • Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe
    "Trolls are heavy tonight. This is not about LGBT rights, it is about the right of cishet women to have privacy when they go to the bathroom. Of course a misogynist wouldn’t understand that."

    Can we please all just agree not to use SJW terminology like "misogynist," or "cishet?" Acknowledging those terms only aids our enemies.

    Besides which, by many standards, I would be considered a so-called "misogynist," as I do believe in the general tendency of male intellectual superiority (as demonstrated by our hugely disproportionate level of achievement in essentially all fields of scientific, technological, or cultural endeavor). But that doesn't mean that I "hate women," or that I don't recognize their right to have their own restrooms (as well as for we men to have ours).

  • @Anonymous
    I'd love to see Schilling try to badmouth LGBT rights in front of Mike Piazza. Piazza would beat the hell out of this loser.

    You are kidding, right? Piazza is not gay.

    Oh, and it seems gays aren’t fond of trannies anyway.

  • @Anonymous
    I'd love to see Schilling try to badmouth LGBT rights in front of Mike Piazza. Piazza would beat the hell out of this loser.

    You are kidding, right? Piazza is not gay.

  • I’d love to see Schilling try to badmouth LGBT rights in front of Mike Piazza. Piazza would beat the hell out of this loser.

    • Replies: @e
    You are kidding, right? Piazza is not gay.

    Oh, and it seems gays aren't fond of trannies anyway.

    , @e
    You are kidding, right? Piazza is not gay.
    , @Spmoore8
    Trolls are heavy tonight. This is not about LGBT rights, it is about the right of cishet women to have privacy when they go to the bathroom. Of course a misogynist wouldn't understand that.
    , @Olorin
    In your own porn fantasies, maybe.

    In fact, actual successful white men don't act like that. They disagree, sometimes strongly.

    , @Charles Erwin Wilson
    Up until about six months ago we used to have better trolls. The trolls back then understood false versus true premises, the basics of logic and a plausible, if upon further inspection untenable, grasp of the facts on the ground.

    But since then we have the current crop that makes halfwits look like geniuses. To call them quarterwits would be dishonest. Deciwits requires the suspension of the strictures of common sense and intellectual decor. Let us see. One-twentieth is a vicile. Then viciwits, while overly generous, is what we can employ in a pinch.

    The worst of it is that it is likely that the single author of all these posts is the viciwit champion of LGBTIQEIEIO rights.

    And we know that there are highly intelligent and capable LGBTIQEIEIO rights champions. So why are we plagued by one mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging, road-kill-eating viciwit anyway? Is Soros short on cash?
    , @Marty T
    (1) Piazza will beat the hell out of you for suggesting that and (2) my money's on Schilling anyway.
    , @Brutusale
    Schilling is 6'4" and about 260 lbs. Piazza had better bring his A-game fisticuffs.

    What is it about NY professional athletes (Piazza, Jeter) and rumors of gayness? I would hope that New Yorkers would be leading more interesting lives.
  • The logic of this is unisex restrooms.

    • Replies: @anon
    The logic of this is unisex restrooms.

    Which nobody really wants, but I guess it makes sense to dismantle a system that has worked pretty well for everybody for as long as anyone can remember just because of less than 1% of the population that just won't shut up.
  • Insecure types like Schilling tend to be the guys that crossdress in private.

  • As a self-respecting White Man you are still watching ESPN why? One of the best things I ever did was cut the cable cord.

    I hang with no one anymore that is a sports fan. It was not intentional, it just happened the further right I moved. I am assuming that is the case for many of the folks here.

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
    I wouldn't call it "right," but more a sense of escaping the consumerist world. The idea of sitting for hours and watching other people do this, instead of reading, walking, working? You might read an essay called "Gin, Television, and Social Surplus." It explains probably what you have experienced.
    , @wow
    Exactly...cut them all....totally liberating.....relaxing...
  • Abe says: • Website
    @Chase
    The funny thing is, no one actually believes this. This is the Mao problem come to America. As a father, I can guarantee you, no one wants a 40-year-old penis-person pissing next to their 10-year-old.

    But no one can say that, we all must signal until death or the end of Western Civilization. Don't stop applauding now!

    As a father, I can guarantee you, no one wants a 40-year-old penis-person pissing next to their 10-year-old.

    Shame on me for it never occurring to my mind, but under the logic of transgenderism, don’t all male bathrooms currently discriminate against males because certain “males” cannot functionally use some of their fixtures (i.e. urinals, but let’s also not forget those wonderful sports and music venue troughs). So all male bathrooms must be torn down forthwith and replaced with “useable” ones (an argument could possibly be made they violate the Americans with Disabilities act as well). But wait- the same must hold true for such facilities in military installations, including nuclear submarines, and our military must make it its highest priority to retrofit these fixtures. Whether this add costs or makes our military platforms less stealthy does not matter- to not have male bathrooms all males can use is not who we are, and ISIS will therefore have won.

    • Replies: @27 year old
    And what if our enemies retrofit faster than we do? We cannot allow a bathroom fixture gap!
    , @Forbes
    Submarines are being retrofitted. Navy has trained up its first female Chief Petty Officer to deploy in the nuclear sub service, with female enlistees.
  • @SPMoore8
    I really had no idea that there were so many Muslim transsexual baseball fans.

    This whole notion of "inclusion" in this area perplexes me, it has a certain odor of "The Emperor's New Genitalia": Nobody wants to say anything because it would not be "inclusive" or on the other hand it would be (no doubt) "hurtful." Yes, I can dig that in 90% of situations, I don't want to "hurt" anyone. But, at the same time, is it really "hurtful" to point out how this sort of thing can be manipulated for prurient purposes? And, knowing what women are like, and knowing in particular how self conscious women can be about performing the most basic bodily functions if they think that anyone is around, let alone a male: I mean, truly, are we going to have to educate our daughters to urinate and defecate with pride? The whole thing is just so weird.

    Where people support freedom of association, we must build safe spaces.

    Where people support safe spaces — hell, the only safe space our society has traditionally had — we must get rid of them.

  • Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Chase
    The funny thing is, no one actually believes this. This is the Mao problem come to America. As a father, I can guarantee you, no one wants a 40-year-old penis-person pissing next to their 10-year-old.

    But no one can say that, we all must signal until death or the end of Western Civilization. Don't stop applauding now!

    I disagree that PC is something we all must obey. Prominent resistance fighters are in the media all the time.

    But there is a consequence for those who take the money from PC sources and then rebel. Curt Schilling has been taking PC paychecks for a long time.

    People are gradually shunning ESPN. Eventually they will cease to play the role of morality police. Too bad it won’t collapse overnight but certain American guys simply can’t get enough of ESPN. It’s like a drug.

  • The question is, why didn’t Schilling back down? The answer is that ESPN is not what it once was. Cord cutting has caused serious subscriber drop, and the answer for over the top stuff like Sling etc. is vastly reduced fees. The good times are over as evinced by the big drop in Disney’s shares last quarter on the ESPN cord cutting results, and layoffs at ESPN to cut costs that followed after.

    Kurt Schilling IMHO was probably not paid that much relative to what he can make on his own website, or in fan appearances signing autographs, or what have you, compared to being in the Studio every Monday in a big hassle — makeup, blocking, etc.

    ESPN just hastens there demise as they appease women, gays, etc. People who don’t like sports or watch them much. There are a ton of free sports on Liveleak if you have a Roku, true not premier stuff like Formula One, top flight rugby, etc. But it is free. And its a relatively easy substitution.

    Heck Schilling could do a weekly podcast and sell ads, and probably make more money with less hassle.