X-Zone Broadcast Network - Kenneth Dudley

This week I talked with Kenneth Dudley, who has said of himself, “I know more than anyone else in the UFO world about what has happened and this is a national security issue…” He also has suggested that his field of expertise is military intelligence and UFOs.” I thought this might make for an interesting show. You can listen to the program here:

https://www.spreaker.com/episode/21485151

We did talk about his becoming interested in UFOs after he was involved in a car

Kenneth Dudley

accident but no one seemed able locate the woman who caused it. He found her in Colorado, but in his discussion with her, remembered a UFO sighting he’d had in October 1973, along I-70 near Green river, Utah. I will note here, apropos of nothing at all, I have driven through Utah on I-70 a number of times, and it is a long, lonesome road. There used to be a sign as you entered the western end that the next service stations were 138 miles away. That’s been changed in the world today with the creation of several service station plazas, but in 1973, that sign just underscores how deserted that stretch of highway used to be.

His sighting wasn’t all that spectacular, just a glowing disk close to the ground that took off in a burst of speed. It wasn’t in sight for very long, and I mentioned that it was quite mundane, in terms of detail. Of course, if you were the witness, your perspective would be somewhat different. Since Dudley said he nearly hit the UFO, he thought of it as a little more exciting.

For corroboration, he mentioned that radars at Cheyenne Mountain had tracked the UFO at about the time of his sighting. Without a little more information, I wasn’t all that sure that the connection could be made or that this could be considered corroboration.

One of the views along I-70 in Utah.

When he talked about the trouble in the UFO community and the seeming lack of interest in his sighting, I suggested it might be his claim about knowing more than anyone else in the UFO world. He did backtrack on that.

He mentioned five people who had died when they came in contact with UFOs but couldn’t provide any names. I confess that I didn’t help. I thought of Mantell (who was chasing a UFO but I think that has been identified in the world today) and of Cash-Landrum, both of whom claimed health issues after they witnessed a close approach of a diamond-shaped UFO. The event and health problems might have contributed to their deaths years later. That would have led to another discussion which I feared would take up too much of our limited time. I had other things that I wanted to address.

We also talked about the national security implications, with Dudley citing the shutdown of missile launch systems. While an outsider having the ability to disable missiles and preventing their launch certainly has national security implications, the connection to UFOs is somewhat tenuous. The Air Force, of course, denied that a UFO had been involved, but they didn’t offer much in the way of solution either.

Next week, I’m going to take some time to look at some of the issues that are floating around the UFO world. At the moment, I am thinking about addressing what is known as “cancel culture,” meaning you must embrace all aspects of the UFO world or you’re considered a debunker, a look at Stan Friedman’s dark side, and the Deep State influence in UFO investigation. If you have questions, or points you might wish to make, append them at the end of this column and I’ll try to get to them.

History's Project Blue Book Returns

For those who are interested, History’s Project Blue Book returns on Tuesday, January 21. Normally, I wouldn’t bother with this but I have seen one of the trailers and I have some other information about the show that I thought I would mention.

First, however, let me say that those who visit here regularly know that I was something of a fan of the show. I pointed out, repeatedly, that I viewed it as science fiction rather than science fact and the claim that it was based on the Project Blue Book files was stretching things quite a bit.

What caught my attention in the latest trailer was a mention of Roswell. Roswell, of course, refers to the UFO crash, something that Project Blue Book ignored… or, if you wish to be totally accurate, Project Sign ignored. For those who aren’t immersed in the history of the Air Force UFO projects, Sign was first, followed by Grudge and then Blue Book. Roswell happened five years before Grudge evolved into Blue Book.

Make no mistake here. These projects weren’t separate entities. Sign became Grudge which became Blue Book. All the files collected by Sign eventually ended up in Blue Book… or I suppose, more accurately, the files stayed in place and only the name was changed to hide the truth.

Having spent years reading the Sign/Grudge/Blue Book files, and having looked, specifically, for anything related to Roswell, I can say without fear of contradiction, there is nothing there about Roswell in the files. The only mention of the case is in a newspaper clipping that is part of another sighting report. In third paragraph of that story is the claim that the officers in Roswell had been issued a blistering rebuke for the press release about “capturing” a flying saucer. Walter Haut told me, repeatedly, that there had been no rebuke.

And that’s it. Nothing else.

Other, similar cases, meaning those that contain information about flying saucer crashes, are there. Shreveport, Louisiana, (July 7, 1947) has a file about the hoax in which a small, saucer-shaped object supposedly crashed onto a street. It was recovered. J. Edgar Hoover was annoyed that the “Army grabbed it” before his FBI could get there. There is no doubt that this was a hoax.

Black River Falls, Wisconsin (July 11, 1947) was reported to Sign. It was another small disk, weighing something like a pound and a half. This too, was a hoax. This

Jesse Marcel, Sr.

too, has a case file.

The point is that Roswell was national news at the time. Even if a solution was offered within three hours of the information hitting the wires, it was still a big story. In those others, it was civilians who found the objects, but in Roswell, the recovery was made by military personnel including a member of the counterintelligence corps (Sheridan Cavitt) and the 509^th’s air intelligence officer (Jesse Marcel, Sr.). But there was no case file… and I find that a bit strange.

The point here, however, is that Project Blue Book (Sign) never investigated the case and there is no evidence that Roswell was even discussed by those assigned to the project. Without seeing the episode, I have to say this. “The only thing about the episode that is true is that there was a Project Blue Book and Dr. J. Allen Hynek was the scientific consultant. Everything else will probably come from the imagination of the writers, producers and those others involved in making the show.”

I fear this will inject more nonsense into the Roswell case and the last thing that serious research needs is more nonsense.

Temple, Oklahoma UFO Landing

The problem with chasing footnotes is that I never know when I’ll find something of importance. Well, this isn’t exactly chasing a footnote to find the original source, but it does involve a sighting of a landed object and the occupant seen in conjunction with the sighting. This has been discussed in a couple of places on the Internet in the last few days. This was the Temple, Oklahoma, sighting of March 23, 1966. You can read about it here:

http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2015/11/the-temple-oklahoma-ufo-occupant.html

What prompted this was a note from a researcher that suggested he had found a newspaper article that mentioned some sort of design or insignia on the craft. He wrote that he hadn’t read or seen anything like a symbol being addressed by others and he found nothing about it in the Project Blue Book files.

According to the article in the Amarillo Globe-Times, the object had a T over an L and the numbers 168 or 468 on it. But this is not the first time that these markings have been mentioned by others in the past. In fact, I mentioned those letters and numbers in The Government UFO Files as I reviewed the case. Well, I had a slightly different set of numbers, but I did address the issue. And, by looking at the illustration, these numbers can be interpreted as TLA rather than TL4. William Laxson himself was not sure if the second number (or first depending on the interpretation) was a 1 or a 7.

That’s not all. I found lots of other references to them as well. J. Allen Hynek reported the same thing in The Hynek UFO Report, page 200 (1997, Barnes and Noble edition). Hynek attributes the information to the Dallas Times – Herald and the Associated Press of March 27, 1966.

Jerry Clark, in High Strangeness, reported, " [William] Laxson recalled them as looking like the letter "T" over "L", with four-digit numbers (either 4738 or 4138) immediately underneath." He attributes this to Hayden Hewes in the Spring 1976 issue of True Flying Saucers and UFO Quarterly, pages 12 - 17.

And, while the letters and numbers aren’t written about in the Blue Book files, the illustration created by Laxson show the placement and orientation of the numbers on the side of the craft. The “T” is somewhat obscured, but it can be seen. That illustration is in the Blue Book files.

William Laxson's illustration of the craft. Drawing from the Project Blue Book files.

The letters and numbers seen
on the drawing.

The question becomes, then, what is the best source for this? Given that Laxson drew the craft and added the letters and numbers, this would seem to be the best source. Those other sources provide most of the data and I’m not exactly sure why we have the variations we do. I mean, the various entries  have the same letters and numbers but some of those entries don't have all of them. I suppose we can say that everything lines up fairly the same way and the only real question is if the second number was a 1 or a 7.

The point here was to note that there were multiple sources for the description of the letters and the numbers so that we didn’t have to rely on the single story. We have Laxson’s original statements to the Air Force, multiple newspaper articles about it, and of course, Hayden Hewes report based on his interviews with the witnesses. Our examination of the illustration demonstrates how this confusion came about.

The interesting thing, for me, was that this case is one of three in the Project Blue Book files where a crew member is seen and described that is labeled as “Unidentified,” rather than as some sort of psychological problem of the witness.

Philip Schneider, Cliff Stone and a History UFO Program

While I was waiting for Gold Rush to start, I was flipping around, looking for something else to watch. I came across a “documentary” on History and I put documentary in quotes because it struck me as more fiction than fact. All the interviews, all the alleged information, was presented without critical comment and I wondered if anyone would actually swallow any of the nonsense.

We started off, or I should say, I started off, watching the tale of Philip Schneider, a geological engineer who was working at the top secret military installation built under Dulce, New Mexico. He said that while he was working deep inside, either drilling for a new tunnel, just working in that tunnel, or trying to find what has caused a problem, he was confronted by a tall, smelly, gray alien. Without missing a beat, he drew his sidearm and opened fire, killing the alien creature.

That sparked a firefight between the human forces and the aliens. Sixty of the humans were killed and an unknown number of the aliens died. Schneider was one of the three human survivors, though badly wounded. Why, he even had the scars to prove that he had taken a hit in the chest, by a ray beam fired from the chest of one of the aliens.

Yeah, I have problems with this. The first question that sprang to my mind was why was a geological engineer carrying a sidearm? I suppose you could suggest it was in case he ran into snakes, but I think he said it was a Walther PPK, or one of the weapons used by James Bond. Besides, a shotgun using birdshot would make a better anti-snake weapon.

And, of course, if he was working on the base, wouldn’t he have been aware of what some of the occupants looked like? He did say, at some point, that these aliens absorbed the blood of humans and cattle for sustenance. Doesn’t that suggest that he had some knowledge of them prior to his unexpected and deadly encounter?

On this documentary, one of the talking heads said that Schneider had the scars to prove his story. They then showed Schneider pulling up his shirt showing us a long scar on his chest. But that only proved that he had a scar and I seem to remember an anti-smoking commercial where the guy showed his chest after heart surgery and it looked remarkedly like that Schneider showed us on that documentary.

There was one other point to be made here. Schneider said during one of his lectures, that there are seven friendly alien races on Earth and they are opposed by four evil races.

Well, I wasn’t convinced by this, and it would seem that practically anyone who was paying attention would see the trouble with what Schneider had to say. When I was at Dulce, I could find no evidence of this massive underground base and it seemed that those living in the area had no knowledge of it… But then it is

A much younger Cliff Stone. Photo copyright
by Kevin Randle

supposed to be top secret, which would mean that we aren’t supposed to know anything about it and it isn’t supposed to be easy to find.

Next up was Cliff Stone, a Roswell resident who, according to him, was involved in almost every important UFO event in the last half century or so. Stone was interviewed about his involvement with some sort of retrieval team, telling all that they’d get a call, and head out to the scene of a UFO crash. As I have said before, it seems these things are just raining out of the sky.

There is no indication that Stone had any sort of specialized training that would make him an asset to any sort of retrieval team. His military records show no special schooling, though they do document his training as a clerk-typist. He is a high school graduate but there is no indication of any college courses. That would seem to make him a poor choice for the specialized work of retrieving alien spacecraft.

I will note here that I first met Stone in February 1989 on the first trip to Roswell that Don Schmitt and I made. Stone made a big deal of going out to his car and returning with a file that had a Top Secret cover sheet on it. I knew at the moment that Stone had a flare for the fantastic because if he really had a top secret document in his car and not just the cover sheet, he was in violation of the law. Military regulations covering the storage of top secret material requires a vault… not just a safe, but a vault and Stone does not have a vault in his house. Obviously, that was meant to impress Don and me. It failed because it told me quite a bit about Cliff Stone… and no, it wasn’t all that great.

Anyway, here’s the real reason I bring this up. On that same program with Schneider, claiming 11 alien races involved here on and around Earth, Stone tells us about 57 alien species. Why the big discrepancy and why had no one at the documentary asked the simple question about the discrepancy? I would have liked to see someone question the outrageous statements rather than accepting everything as if was the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I would really like to see some tough questions asked of these people rather than the complete acceptance of what they say. That would make an interesting documentary.

Gosia Duszak and Billy Meier

Looks like Billy Meier has some competition. Seems that a woman, Gosia Duszak, who will be speaking at an upcoming UFO conference, says that she has been in communication with the Pleiadeans.

The Pleiades

It seems, according to the information published about her, she is an owner of a YouTube channel “through which the Taygetean Pleidain communication is shared… Since 2017 in almost daily direct live written contact with Swaruu (the Leader) and the Taygetean Pleidian crew in orbit of the Earth, assisting humans with the planetary liberation, liberation from the ‘Matrix’ and removal of artificially imposed 3d frequencies into our natural 5D state…”

There is some support out there for Duszak. I found this: “Dale Harder, a former NASA engineer and specialist in several fields of science, has recently contacted me to support the work of Swaruu of Erra (Taygeta, Pleiades). As he indicates, he himself claims to be a Taygetean starseed and in this video we talk about his experiences, what he knows and remembers, and also how Swaruu’s information fits with his personal knowledge and his cosmological, metaphysical and scientific vision.”

Harder has been interviewed by Kerry Cassidy at the Project Camelot, which, I’m not convinced, is the most credible of websites. Previously I had looked at her interview with Lt. Col. Robert French which didn’t seem to be a critical evaluation of his tales. She just bought everything he said. Anyway, you can listen to that interview here:

http://projectcamelotportal.com/2019/02/12/dale-harder-pleiadian-an-interview/

And you can learn more about Harder and his beliefs here:

https://conspiracyrevelation.com/2019/03/18/dale-harder-pleiadian-formerly-with-nasa-and-honeywell/

Anyway, I just thought I would mention that Billy Meier’s Pleiadeans have another Earth contact, though I’m not sure it is the same group of Pleiadeans. After all the Pleiades is what is known as an open star cluster and what we see from Earth is the seven brightest of the stars. The real point is that the Pleiades is not a solar system like ours, but a loose grouping of stars that are separated by light years. We can travel to the edges of our solar system over several years, but without faster than light travel, the distances between the stars of the Pleiades would take, well, decades, at best. The point being it is not a single star system but a group of star systems, which, BTW, aren’t all that old, astronomically speaking.

Anyway, I just wonder if the two groups of Pleiadeans are in communication with one another. And I wonder, of course, if Billy Meier is in communication with Gosia Duszak. It would seem that if this is true, why, we’d get some real proof.

Curse of Oak Island and Red Water

As those of you who visit here know, I have about given up on Curse of Oak Island. They had been tearing up the island for years and all they have to show for all that destruction are some crummy artifacts that are essentially worthless and a pack of speculations that are laughable in the extreme.

Oak Island, obviously.

Remember back in the early days when we were repeatedly shown that lousy video from Borehole 10X. There were images seen on that video that resembled a body, there was a hammer seen, and some sort of box that suggested treasure. When was the last time they showed that? Certainly not after they managed to put a diver down to the bottom of the hole and he found nothing of the sort. There was no body or tool or box. It was just an empty cavern that had a current in the water that suggested a connection to the ocean.

We were told they had found a mythical treasure vault because one of the holes they drilled had penetrated some sort of wooden structure. Never mind that the island is riddled with tunnels and holes and excavations in which wood was used to prop up everything. This, they said was the vault… except they haven’t been able to find it again and their one connection to it produced nothing but that wood.

They have dug up Smith’s Cove and found all sorts of structures that suggest some sort of military or nautical facility on the island. They have actually found historical records that seem to match those structures to actual installations built in the 1700s proving that someone was there in the years before the alleged Money Pit was found. In fact, everything they have found suggests an occupation that was abandoned before the boys showed up to start digging away at their imagined treasure.

I bring all this up because of something I saw in the last episode. Before I get to that, I want you all to remember that a few episodes ago they tossed some red dye into one of the holes they had dug to see where it would come up. At Smith’s Cove they had found a stone structure and by structure, I mean two stones that were tipped together to suggest the possibility of a triangle-shaped stone drain (changed from the box drain they spent years telling us about) that would lead to the Money Pit. Eventually, some red water trickled out and they all said that it proved a connection to the pit, whichever pit they’d tossed the dye into.

Now, we have them using an excavator to dig down deeper, farther inland, until they hit the water table. There was water seeping into the hole and that water had the same strange, reddish-orange color of that water that had been seen back on Smith’s Cove. What does this tell us? Well, I’d say that it showed that there was some sort of natural element that colored some of the water on the island. What they had seen in that earlier episode was not evidence of the dye migrating to Smith’s Cove, but a result of tapping into a water source that had been stained. In other, plainer words, they found nothing of interest and yet hyped it as some kind of proof of the treasure.

I was going to ask, “At what point do they admit defeat, pack up and go home?”

But the answer is obvious. When the ad revenue dries up and the show becomes a liability rather than an asset.

I believe that we have the answers here. We know what was going on, and the explanation of a military or nautical installation makes more sense than a hidden treasure of the Knights Templar, the lost manuscripts from William Shakespeare, or the French crown jewels.

But, in the positive, they have answered the question of what is hidden on Oak Island. Nothing of importance.

X-Zone Broadcast Network - John Burroughs

After I had interviewed Charles Halt a few weeks ago, I heard from John Burroughs. During our discussion about the Halt interview, John said a couple of intriguing things. I thought he might be able to provide a different perspective on the Rendlesham Forest encounter, so I talked with him this week. You can listen to the interview here:

https://www.spreaker.com/episode/20665258

We started out discussing his involvement in two days of the main events of late

John Burroughs

December 1980, but delved into some of the reports that suggested strange things had been seen in the area for months before that and after. John was just telling us that sightings were not limited to those three days.

I had been somewhat confused some of this until I had talked with John about his involvement. Jim Penniston and John worked for different organizations on the base. There was a separation of police and security forces. Two different functions for two different units with two difference chains of command under most circumstance.  I learned that John was out there with Jim for the first big event on the first night and while Jim saw what he thought of as a craft, John saw lights.

We talked about the second day that involved a different crew and how one member of that crew had been badly frightened by what she saw. John suggested

Jim Penniston

that she was gone from the base in what seemed like a matter of days, maybe a matter of hours.

On the third night, John wasn’t on duty, but when he learned that something was going on out in the forest, he and a couple of others moved to East Gate on the base perimeter. Eventually, John went forward and although Chuck Halt mentioned on this program that John had been in the background on that third night, I have a taped interview on which Halt mentions that only John and one other were in front of him. Is this the fog of memory, or is there something a little more nefarious involved? You can listen to both the latest Chuck Halt and Jim Penniston interviews here:

https://www.spreaker.com/episode/20149199

https://www.spreaker.com/episode/19539741

From there we got into a discussion that suggested that others, from outside the Bentwaters base, had been flown in, quickly, to conduct “debriefings.” They arrived on an aircraft that had Langley Air Force Base markings. Although it seems that hypnosis was used on the enlisted personnel, it is also possible that there were chemical interrogations. John wasn’t sure if chemicals had been used, but thought there was to a real possibility.

We ended the discussion with a couple of theories that suggested that there might have been a more terrestrial explanation for those events… one that did not involve the lighthouse that is a favorite of the skeptics, but something that might have to do with some of the experiments being conducted by British scientists in the area. Apparently, there was a history of British research in the area for, what, decades.

Yes, we jammed quite a bit into the hour. There were so many other avenues to explore but we just ran out of time. I’m now going to take a couple of weeks off for the holidays, but will be back with some more interesting interviews. We’ll be running some of the “best of” segments during this short hiatus.