Rebuilding with new (used) boots

[Wolf1ion]

I plan on taking these bauers off

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd131/allanmcmeekin/Skates/bauerimpactskate.jpg

And fitting these nikes on (Cost of £2 from a charity shop)

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd131/allanmcmeekin/Skates/nikeskate.jpg

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd131/allanmcmeekin/Skates/bauernikeskates.jpg

Going to get orange wheels and risers, so i have a black/orange/white colour scheme. Also need to add a grind plate, which I've got a pair of cut up middle sections off of aggressive inline chassis for.

Can anyone tell me if a thick slab of rubber for the spacer between the heel and plate would be a good idea? Or would it cause a spongier ride? The ones i made out of wood just doesnt seem up to the job.

Also any recommendations on wheels? Theres some NOS krypto saturns on ebay fairly cheap, but at 100a would these be too hard? The ones i currently ride are Labeda cat eyes which i think are are 95 or 97a.

[biffsk8er]

Rictas are good wheels. But, if you are going for cheap..... :P

I would not use the rubber heel, unless it is a real hard rubber. Ever try an old cutting board from a resale shop??

I've done able frames on my skates, but they are not wide enough. I'd suggest cutting your own slide plates (frames) out of UHMW (ultra high molecular weight) plastic. It slides real well. It is a real bear to work with though, unless you have your own power tool shop!!

Btw, ice hockey boots can make your feet sweat, as they are made for the cold. You might want boots that are not so hot if you are in a hotter environment.

[Wolf1ion]

Fortunately it doesn't really get hot over here in scotland, infact its usually the opposite :P

When i say the saturns are cheap, they're going for £30 (about $45). I don't mind paying more for good wheels, as I've saved a fair bit on going the used boot/ski path. Also gonna eventually get new bearings, thinking maybe bones reds or swiss and a set of new trucks. Wanna get them all put together first so i can tweak the basic setup

Need to also design some form of toe stop holder to mount to the front as i like being able to 'run' up ramps sometimes. The grind bars i only really use for stalls as i prefer grinding on my trucks, which is why i've got the rollerblade chassis as it locks nicely onto the coping.

Thanks for the advice on the cutting board, i never thought of that. Looks like us aggressive quaders have to get resourceful in making our skates, cannabilising and using what we can as they just don't make the parts. Heck, it's a pain just trying to get a regular pair of quads these days round my end.

Thanks again for all the help, it's much appreciated.

[biffsk8er]

Fortunately it doesn't really get hot over here in scotland, infact its usually the opposite :PI figured that might be the case. Here in Texas, I'd die wearing those ice skate boots!!

When i say the saturns are cheap, they're going for £30 (about $45). I don't mind paying more for good wheels, as I've saved a fair bit on going the used boot/ski path. Also gonna eventually get new bearings, thinking maybe bones reds or swiss and a set of new trucks. Wanna get them all put together first so i can tweak the basic setupSounds like a good plan!

Need to also design some form of toe stop holder to mount to the front as i like being able to 'run' up ramps sometimes. The grind bars i only really use for stalls as i prefer grinding on my trucks, which is why i've got the rollerblade chassis as it locks nicely onto the coping.I might be able to help you with a toe stop holder. I'm checking into a source now. Though, you have to have room at the front of your plate to attach it, so your truck cannot go all the way to the end of your plate.

Thanks for the advice on the cutting board, i never thought of that. Looks like us aggressive quaders have to get resourceful in making our skates, cannabilising and using what we can as they just don't make the parts. Heck, it's a pain just trying to get a regular pair of quads these days round my end.

Thanks again for all the help, it's much appreciated.You bet! And yes, you have to think outside the box to make vert quad skates. Also, I have accumulated ideas from many sources over the years. It also helps to go to adinfinitum (http://www.adinfinitum.de/php/index.php?theme=Vert-Skating) for help.

[Wolf1ion]

Yea i've got the trucks mounted under the balls of my feet, so i have a bit of space in front to mount something.

The 'Plans about how to build a Vertical Roller-Skate' guide on adinfinitum is what i used when i first made these. So it's pretty much thanks to that site for getting me getting into aggressive quad.

I hope to start working on in the next day or 2 as my dad's got power tools i can borrow, so should hopefully have a 1st build by the weekend.

[Wolf1ion]

Managed to get the blades off and the plates on today. Didn't realize there was as much of a size difference between the sz9 nikes and the sz10 bauers. (I was wearing 2 pairs of thick socks to get the bauers to fit snug, the nikes i just wear 1 pair of thin socks to get a nice comfy fit)

So now the trucks are positioned far forward, but i think i prefer them this way now as it all feels comfier and more stable.

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd131/allanmcmeekin/Skates/nikeskatebld1.jpg

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd131/allanmcmeekin/Skates/nikeskatebld1-1.jpg

Now i know it was worth changing the boots i can get on and replace the heel block, cut the front protruding parts of the plates off and look at fitting the grind block.

[Wolf1ion]

In regards to changing the trucks, does anyone know if tracker midtracks are any good for riding aggro?

If so, would it be worth swapping the standard bushes out for Bones Hardcore bushings?

Also plan on getting a set of orange belair blazer wheels

Belair Blazers (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BELAIR-Blazer-Quad-Roller-skate-wheels-x8-98a-Orange-/170467905135?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Sporting_Goods_Skateboarding_Skating_ET&hash=item27b0adce6f#ht_908wt_708)

[FarmTruk]

Is that a ski you mounted the trucks/boots too?

[Wolf1ion]

Yea the baseplates are made out of old skis.

Biffsk8er explains why skis are a good choice on his Building new set up (http://www.skatelogforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18509) topic (post #17)

[biffsk8er]

whoops.... double posted. See next post. :D

[biffsk8er]

Yes! In fact, many agro quad skaters used tracker midtracks years ago. I would suggest trucks in the 90 to 109mm range. They sometimes get too wide after that.......and your wheels will catch when riding parallel stance (feet side by side).

And yes, always switch out your bushings for better ones. It makes a big difference.

Are the belair wheels roller skate wheels? I recently listened to others and switched to skateboard wheels. It was the best thing I've ever done. Don't use roller skate wheels if you can afford to buy skateboard wheels......at least as far as vert is concerned. I'd still use roller skate wheels for street skating with rec skates.

Also, do not cut the excess ski off of the toe area just yet. You can add tracker stoppers, that used to mount on their quad vert plate. I've been looking into finding some for you HERE (http://www.adinfinitum.de/php/showmsg.php?id=12453&theme=Vert-Skating). I think that Irene, or someone else, had a source for them there.


In regards to changing the trucks, does anyone know if tracker midtracks are any good for riding aggro?

If so, would it be worth swapping the standard bushes out for Bones Hardcore bushings?

Also plan on getting a set of orange belair blazer wheels

Belair Blazers (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BELAIR-Blazer-Quad-Roller-skate-wheels-x8-98a-Orange-/170467905135?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Sporting_Goods_Skateboarding_Skating_ET&hash=item27b0adce6f#ht_908wt_708)

[Wolf1ion]

Thanks for looking into the toe stopper attachments, and for the advice.

Managed to get to Evolution skatepark this afternoon. They have Ricta wheels in so I'll snag 2 sets of them when i get my basic setup finished.

Started teaching my daughter to skate, getting her comfortable with her skates on smooth concrete. Also got to ride in the park myself, getting used to dropping in again from the 5ft and (attempting) to carve the quarter pipes. Was a pretty good session considering i haven't skated in 4yrs. Really felt the burn on my inside thighs. :redface:

Didn't manage to get footage as our digicam didn't save the videos we took for some reason :confused:

Did get these 3 pics taken tho:

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd131/allanmcmeekin/Skates/AlCassSkate1.jpg

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd131/allanmcmeekin/Skates/AlCassSkate.jpg

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd131/allanmcmeekin/Skates/AlCassSkate2.jpg

I'll have to make her a pair of vert quads when she gets good enough to start dropping in :biggrin:

[biffsk8er]

Thanks for looking into the toe stopper attachments, and for the advice.
No problem. I'm still waiting to hear back from Irene.
Managed to get to Evolution skatepark this afternoon. They have Ricta wheels in so I'll snag 2 sets of them when i get my basic setup finished.
Awesome!!

Started teaching my daughter to skate, getting her comfortable with her skates on smooth concrete. Also got to ride in the park myself, getting used to dropping in again from the 5ft and (attempting) to carve the quarter pipes. Was a pretty good session considering i haven't skated in 4yrs. Really felt the burn on my inside thighs. :redface:

Didn't manage to get footage as our digicam didn't save the videos we took for some reason :confused:
That's neat that you have something fun to do with your little girl. How did the skates ride??

[Wolf1ion]

Being able to get the Rictas from there is a lot easier than having to wait for gettin em ordered in.

They felt a lot more sturdier, also with the fit of the new boot i prefer not having them laced up as high. Got a lot more movement in my ankle, so could pump and carve a lot looser (if that makes sense), even without the good trucks and wheels.

Did fall a few times, though that was due to me not having skated in a while. Thigh still feels a bit sore from when i landed on it off the quarter pipe. Cassie said she wants to go down the ramps when she's bigger, so I'll hold her to that ;) Was a fun family day out.


They should be awesome when i get the better trucks and wheels.

[biffsk8er]

Very cool.Yea Cassie really enjoyed it, was a fun day.

Also being able to get the Rictas from there is a lot easier than having to wait for gettin em ordered in.

They felt a lot more sturdier, also with the fit of the new boot i prefer not having them laced up as high. Got a lot more movement in my ankle, so could pump and carve a lot looser (if that makes sense), even without the good trucks and wheels.

They should be awesome when i get the better trucks and wheels.

[FarmTruk]

Yea the baseplates are made out of old skis.

Biffsk8er explains why skis are a good choice on his Building new set up (http://www.skatelogforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18509) topic (post #17)

far out, dude. :)


Never really considered it, but looks like it works well.


I learn something new here everyday, especially when venturing outside of the quad forums.


And you and your daughter look awesome on those skates. :)

[Wolf1ion]

And you and your daughter look awesome on those skates. :)

Thanks.

The wife's skates are the other ones on the bench, but i couldn't persuade her to join in (She hasn't skated in over 16yrs). But she's been on the phone to her family to see if her Bauer Turbos are still there, so it may just be a case of wanting to ride what she was used to.

[biffsk8er]

The wife's skates are the other ones on the bench, but i couldn't persuade her to join in (She hasn't skated in over 16yrs). But she's been on the phone to her family to see if her Bauer Turbos are still there, so it may just be a case of wanting to ride what she was used to.

So......bringing the "wife's" skates was a ploy to persuade her to skate?? :wink:;);)

[Elysarian]

Have you considered a pair of these (mounted on the front trucks of course)?

http://kateskates.co.uk/productdetails.html?x5=2147383450&x1=2060188474&x2=2142577896&x3=2142577896
http://www.kateskates.co.uk/productimages/MetalRearQuadBrakeSmall.jpg

I have one mounted in the traditional manner on the back of my coverted Bauer RX:05's (and previously on my Turbo's) - if you don't like the colours then standard sure-grip bolt on stoppers will fit.

I know people who've broken the toe stop off their nylon (Variflex) plate and put a back stopper on there as a replacement.

[biffsk8er]

That sounds like that might work. And, you could go ahead and cut off the excess ski. Ia always liked the flat back brake :

http://www.skates.com/v/vspfiles/photos/RSCB-2.jpg (http://www.skates.com/Roller-skate-brakes-p/rscb.htm)<---click
Have you considered a pair of these (mounted on the front trucks of course)?

http://kateskates.co.uk/productdetails.html?x5=2147383450&x1=2060188474&x2=2142577896&x3=2142577896
http://www.kateskates.co.uk/productimages/MetalRearQuadBrakeSmall.jpg

I have one mounted in the traditional manner on the back of my coverted Bauer RX:05's (and previously on my Turbo's) - if you don't like the colours then standard sure-grip bolt on stoppers will fit.

I know people who've broken the toe stop off their nylon (Variflex) plate and put a back stopper on there as a replacement.

[Wolf1ion]

Picked up some 51mm Ricta Naturals today, ordered another set as they only had 1 pack in. Should be able to pick em up Wednesday.
I see what you mean Biff, they feel super smooth and resilient. I'll see just how they ride for me when i get the rest.
Also picked up some Indy hard truck bushes and some risers. Get to put them on when i take the plate back off to fit the grind plate.

Also I've now decided on adding a back brake anyway as i don't wanna wreck these new wheels by doing hockey stops. Those brake attachments are perfect, thanks for the info guys.