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Re: The language of ethnicity Lucinda Platt, et al. 371:doi 10.1136/bmj.m4493

Dear Editor

TACKLING RACIAL DISCRIMINATION IN THE NHS: A PLEA

Having been out of the NHS for some time it has been an interesting experience to recently attend some events focused on race and discrimination in the NHS. Listening to the participants and reading some publications (1-3), with the backdrop of the Black Lives Matter initiative generally, it seems like nothing has really changed – new faces but same old problems. The disproportionate toll of Covid 19 pandemic on Black and Minority Ethnic (BAME) people has caused further upset.

The difficulty for me at these events has been about how to add value, what could I say that has not been said by more qualified and recent commentators already, and mostly because what I want to say (4) is seen as naive (private views from well wishers). There is no doubt that there is a significant problem of racial discrimination in the NHS (and society) and the various inquiries and initiatives have not stemmed the perceived rise in this disparity; and though there is more visibility of BAME people in senior positions this is not enough to create the necessary system change. So surely something has to change?

My basic message is to Stop, Review and Start again – the current approaches are not only failing but contributing to widening the problem. History is full of examples where the breakthroughs happen with the changed thought and a new paradigm, and that is what is needed here. Maybe what we are doing is not right? Can we dare think differently or are we doomed to repeating the mistakes – a triumph of evidence over (misplaced) hope.

Bundling disparate groups under the BAME banner (1) is setting one off against the other, with a rise in ‘Black on Black’ discrimination, and the recent article in the Lancet is another example where Diwali is pitched against Christmas (3). What I see is that some BAME people are able to use the system, with good intentions, and are successful in limited ways, but this soon leads to the discovery of the resistance/inertia of the status quo or they fall into the ‘Power corrupts’ trap. (Declaration: I use these words cautiously, without meaning any offence to any one). Proportionate representation without fixing the system is destined to fail and to create more resentments.

I resigned from the WRES Steering Group for the simple reason that the basic premise to rely on regulation was doomed to fail - does anyone think that the system of NHS regulation is fit for purpose?

We could learn further from history and what is happening elsewhere - today’s majorities are tomorrow’s minorities and hence the backlashes in the USA and France where the ‘White’ people will become minorities in a few decades. In India, it is already happening with ‘Upper’ class revolting and seeking parity with ‘Other Backward Classes (OBC)'. (5) Surely it behoves us to redesign the system to avoid replacing one set of tyrants with another?

The question I leave you with is: Are you (we) ready to accept that it is time to take stock, without which we cannot move forward? And if we do accept then new answers, relevant for our times, will emerge; I have also been impressed during my interactions with the willingness to learn from the past, use new narratives, build bridges and to create the fit for purpose 21st century NHS, especially from the younger colleagues.

Frankly we are all losers at present: the race to the bottom is accelerating when the NHS needs all the races to win the race against Covid 19, and beyond.

RAJAN MADHOK
Public health doctor
https://www.peoples-uni.org/content/trustees
Ruthin, Denbighshire

REFERENCES

1. Khunti K et al. The language of ethnicity. https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4493
2. Kituno N. Discrimination against BME staff getting worse. https://www.hsj.co.uk/workforce/exclusive-discrimination-against-bme-sta...
3. Bandyopadhay S. An Institutionally racist lockdown policy https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)32464-8/fulltext
4. Madhok R. Time to rethink our approach to racial discrimination in the NHS. https://www.thehealthcareleadership.academy/time-to-rethink-our-approach...
5. Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patidar_reservation_agitation
(all urls accessed 11 Dec 2020).

Competing interests: No competing interests

11 December 2020
Rajan Madhok
Public Health Doctor
https://www.peoples-uni.org/content/trustees
Ruthin, Denbighshire
Re: The shared risk of diabetes between dog and cat owners and their pets: register based cohort study Mwenya Mubanga, Liisa Byberg, Tove Fall, Beatrice Kennedy, et al. 371:doi 10.1136/bmj.m4337

Dear Editor

I would like to applaud the authors for conducting a novel - and frankly fun - study that demonstrates that dogs can be the 'canary in the coal mine' for diabetes within a household. My team and I have conducted several studies demonstrating shared spousal risk for diabetes where the purpose is parallel - to emphasize the importance of 'nongenetic' factors in increasing diabetes risk.

Following a meta-analysis demonstrating cross-sectional concordance for diabetes in partners (BMC Medicine, 2014), we conducted a retrospective cohort study with health administrative data bases in Canada and demonstrated gestational diabetes in mothers to predict incident diabetes in both mothers and fathers (Diabetes Care, 2015; American Journal of Epidemiology, 2017). The results received a lot of interest in the lay press with some reporting that you could 'catch' diabetes from your partner. Now it appears you can catch it from your dog :)

The importance of this work, in all seriousness, is in signalling risk, the opportunity for prevention, and the need for collaboration within the household and community, for healthier food choices and higher levels of physical activity. For many years, I told my husband I wanted to do such a dog study. I am delighted that a methodologically rigorous study has now been performed, with innovative use of enviable Swedish data sets and registries. The application of Weibull-Markov modelling is also notable.

Kaberi Dasgupta, MD, MSc

Professor of Medicine - McGill University

Physicianb- McGill University Health Centre (MUHC)

Director & Senior Scientist - Centre for Outcomes Research and Evaluation (CORE), Research Institute of the MUHC

Competing interests: No competing interests

11 December 2020
Kaberi Dasgupta
Professor of Medicine and Physician Epidemiologist
McGill University
Centre for Outcomes Research and Evaluation, Research Institute of the McGill University Health Centre
Re: Dr Brock, re-education, and ergotherapy: how an innovative treatment shaped Wilfred Owen’s poetry Neil McLennan. 371:doi 10.1136/bmj.m4587

Dear Editor,

I read this article with interest today. The author, whom I know and respect, has expertise and interest in the life of Wilfred Owen and Dr. Arthur Brock. While it is the promotion of both their lives that I am sure he wished to achieve in the paper, it is unfortunate that McLennan did not acknowledge that the "innovate" therapy he mentions adn promotes has now evolved into modern day occupational therapy. Such an omission, though I am sure unintentional, has provoked a predictable response both in these pages and on Twitter.

If readers wonder why there has been such a reaction, it is because to suggest ergotherapy is 'innovative' is akin to an exploration of the life of Joseph Lister simultaneously proclaiming that barbers and and butchers could provide innovative solutions to contemporary health outcomes. Things have moved on. Occupational therapy, like modern medicine, has evolved into a patient-centred and evidence-based profession.

The evolution of occupational therapy from the turn of the 20th Century is fascinating in itself. An exploration of the first part of its history can be found here: Paterson, C.F., 2010. Opportunities not prescriptions: The development of occupational therapy in Scotland 1900-1960. Aberdeen History of Medicine Publications.

McLennan notes that the philosophy of Brock could be useful in today's world as we deal with COVID-19 and its sequale. Readers may be interested to learn that modern day occupational therapy is indeed centrally involved in the delivery of long COVID rehabilitation, as our recent national survey found: Duncan E, Cooper K, Cowie J et al. A national survey of community rehabilitation service provision for people with long Covid in Scotland [version 1; peer review: awaiting peer review]. F1000Research 2020, 9:1416 (https://doi.org/10.12688/f1000research.27894.1) https://f1000research.com/articles/9-1416

McLennan has written, presented, and conducted acclaimed tours and events on the lives of Owen and Brock. These contributions are valuable. I am sure that future articles, with larger word counts, and other events will enable the evolution of modern day occupational therapy from these early times to be properly acknowledged.

Competing interests: No competing interests

11 December 2020
Edward Duncan
Associate Professor of Applied Health Research
University of Stirling
Stirling University
Re: If social determinants of health are so important, shouldn’t we ask patients about them? Andrew Moscrop, Sue Ziebland, Gary Bloch, Janet Rodriguez Iraola. 371:doi 10.1136/bmj.m4150

Dear Editor,

I was surprised to see that information about determinants of health is not part of the normal case history for patients in the UK.

I published my first paper on this topic in March 1972 at the annual communicable disease conference (DHEW publication number (HSM) 73 – 8172) when I and my staff examined infectious disease differences by socio-economic areas within the city. The decennial publications on Health, United States for the last 40 years have refined social determinants of health repeatedly. I believe most practitioners in the US are familiar with this. I have taught about the importance of the subject in my classes on public health in our medical schoolfor the last 30 years.

Competing interests: No competing interests

11 December 2020
Christopher M. Buttery
Clinical Professor
Derpartment of Family Medicine, Division of Epidemiology,Virginia Commonwealth University, Richmond, Virginia. USA
Re: Sniffing out significant “Pee values”: genome wide association study of asparagus anosmia Eric B Rimm, Ethan Ecsedy, Robert H Unger, Katja Fall, et al. 355:doi 10.1136/bmj.i6071

Dear Editor

Not being a scientist or a professional researcher I found the article more interesting for its lack of relational curiosity! Surely the genetic difference that enables the ability or inability to detect the odor cannot be singularly limited to just asparagus. I am suddenly filled with unanswered questions about the thoroughness of the study!

- Why weren't the research subjects asked to describe the taste of asparagus and whether they did or did not enjoy it? It would be interesting to see how the responses from those with the ability to detect the odor differed from those that could not.

- Why was no attempt made to see if the ability to detect the odor after consumption could be correlated to any differences in taste ability or preference between the two different subjects? Imagine what could be implied if say one group showed a distinct preference for cilantro while the other despised it? People that dislike cilantro often describe it as tasting like soap.

- Why were the subjects not asked if they ever detected a disagreeable odor in their urine after the consumption of other foods? Speaking from personal experience I can state that I usually detect a urine odor after the consumption of most calciferous vegetables. Not as strong as asparagus but still detectable.

- The body produces two primary waste products (urine and feces), both of which are odiferous, so why only question the odor difference of just one of the waste products?

Competing interests: No competing interests

11 December 2020
Craig E Reynolds
Retired
Brevard County, FL
Re: Maternity care: services across England require “immediate and essential actions” Clare Dyer. 371:doi 10.1136/bmj.m4797

Dear Editor

The Ockenden inquiry delivers a horrific narrative of what happened in recent years. There is a positive outlook for the future. This is because the 27 recommendations by Donna Ockenden are to be "implemented at pace" by Shrewsbury and Telford Hospital NHS Trust (SaTH).

In 2017 the CQC produced a quality report for the Royal Shrewsbury Hospital - and rated maternity care as good. The 2018 RCOG Report on the Review of Maternity Services at SaTH cited the low caesarean rate as a "Strength of the maternity services" : In fact, it was the especially low caesarean section rate that led to babies experiencing distress in labour not being delivered in a timely manner. Resulting in death and catastrophic brain damage. These plaudits, despite the events at Shrewsbury being described as the worst maternity scandal in NHS history.

Clearly both reports glossed a number of problems at SaTH. And if it hadn't been for the more forensic examination by Donna Ockenden and her team, there never would be these 27 recommendations requiring to be "implemented at pace".

As such, it follows that as the assessments - from the CQC and RCOG - were not fit for purpose. And that maternity care assessors require immediate and essential actions to improve their standards.

Competing interests: No competing interests

11 December 2020
Malcolm John Dickson
Consultant Obstetrician & Gynaecologist
Morley Green
Re: Association between conflicts of interest and favourable recommendations in clinical guidelines, advisory committee reports, opinion pieces, and narrative reviews: systematic review Karsten J Jørgensen, Mary Le, Andreas Lundh, et al. 371:doi 10.1136/bmj.m4234

Dear Editor

The valuable research by Dr. Nejstgaard and co-workers found an association between financial conflicts of interest and favourable recommendations of drugs and devices in clinical guidelines, advisory committee reports, opinion pieces, and narrative reviews [1]. This is not surprising considering the great quantity of publications influenced by declared and non-declared conflicts of interest. Certain journals are selecting reliable reports (The BMJ in the first place) but others are publishing biased materials and rejecting criticism. It has become usual practice to disregard published criticism in spite of personal communications and debates at conferences. Some scientists continue their publications ignoring the published comments e.g. [2]. Wrong concepts are persisting, which may result in useless experimentation and application of invasive methods without sufficient indications [3,4]. Some writers tangle their texts, making evaluation increasingly difficult.

In conclusion, the quality of research and hidden conflicts of interest should be taken into account in deciding which studies are to be included into reviews and meta-analyses.

References
1. Nejstgaard CH, Bero L, Hróbjartsson A, Jørgensen AW, Jørgensen KJ, Le M, Lundh A. Association between conflicts of interest and favourable recommendations in clinical guidelines, advisory committee reports, opinion pieces, and narrative reviews: systematic review. BMJ. 2020;371:m4234.
2. Jargin SV. Development of antiatherosclerotic drugs on the basis of cell models. Int J Pharmacol Phytochem Ethnomed 2015;1:10-14.
3. Jargin SV. Renal biopsy research in the former Soviet Union: prevention of a negligent custom. ISRN Nephrol. 2012;2013:980859.
4. Jargin SV. Invasive procedures with questionable indications: Prevention of a negligent custom. J Surg Open Access 2017;3(5) https://www.researchgate.net/publication/321245511_Invasive_procedures_w...

Competing interests: No competing interests

11 December 2020
Sergei Jargin
medical reviewer
Clementovski per 6-82; 115184 Moscow, Russia
Re: Patient mortality after surgery on the surgeon’s birthday: observational study Hirotaka Kato, Anupam B Jena, Yusuke Tsugawa. 371:doi 10.1136/bmj.m4381

Dear Editor

Whilst this paper highlights a single data point from retrospective observational data I do not feel it should have been published in a Christmas collection.

Either publish it on its statistical merit and include the peer review comments or do not publish it in the BMJ.

Slipping it out among papers talking about children mixing potions and previous editions that included losing teaspoons and recognising chocolate types diminishes the importance of data that could be used to improve patient care. It also risks being picked up by a narrative that is determined to challenge the professionalism of doctors and nurses working in emergency surgery.

This is poor science communication. By associating it with a picture of a birthday cake makes it looks more like cheap 'click bait' than reasoned discussion of patient mortality.

Competing interests: No competing interests

11 December 2020
Richard D Jenkins
Consultant Physician
Royal Cornwall Hospitals NHS trust
Cornwall, UK.
Re: Conflicts of interest among the UK government’s covid-19 advisers Paul D Thacker. 371:doi 10.1136/bmj.m4716

Dear Editor,

So many experts now give advice to pharmaceutical companies that it can be very difficult to avoid apparent conflicts of interest, I am not sure that it matters, so long as the experts can divorce themselves from any vested interest, but others will have a different view, not least because confirmation bias is almost inevitable.

It is different, however, when there are apparent conflicts, but these remain secret. Failure to be transparent, in my book, means there is something to hide. Reveal it, and then all can judge fairly.

That said, I have argued almost from the beginning that the SAGE committee has the wrong experts, as implied by Paul Thacker (1). Neither epidemiologists nor public health doctors are the right people to develop the clinical management of a severe disease. In the case of Covid-19 it has become increasingly clear that the serious complications are immunologically related. The specialists with the most experience, and knowledge of such conditions are rheumatologists, and the treatments now being used are familiar to them. It's not too late to include them. However, as my numerous submissions of diagnostic and treatment protocols since the end of April (2) have been studiously ignored I hold out little hope. That my recommendations have become, at least to some extent, mainstream I still wonder how many lives might have been saved had SAGE been more receptive to external input.

Reference:

1. Bamji AN. The Wry Observer's Covid-19 update (25): 18th May 2020. https://bamjiinrye.wordpress.com/2020/05

2. Bamji A N. Rapid Response to "Paying the Ultimate Price". https://doi.org/10.1136/bmj.m1605 (28th April)

Competing interests: No competing interests

11 December 2020
Andrew N Bamji
Retired consultant rheumatologist
None
Rye
Re: Dr Brock, re-education, and ergotherapy: how an innovative treatment shaped Wilfred Owen’s poetry Neil McLennan. 371:doi 10.1136/bmj.m4587

Dear Editor

I was very interested to read about Dr Brock and his innovative approach to Wilfred Owen’s recovery in the First World War. It is a sad story but a useful one for those of us who are particularly interested in the history of therapeutic occupation and health.

However, it was frustrating to see the author advocate for greater use of this approach in the current challenge of addressing COVID, without appearing to know about occupational therapy. In many European countries occupational therapy is known as ergotherapy. At the time of Dr Brock, the profession was just emerging in different settings, with the first training school in the UK started by Dr Elizabeth Casson in 1929. Occupational therapists have been part of the national COVID response, as indicated in this article https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/nov/06/will-we-have-energy-keep...

Yours sincerely
Professor Wendy Bryant

Competing interests: No competing interests

11 December 2020
Wendy M Bryant
Honorary professor of occupational therapy
University of Essex
Colchester, Essex, UK

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