Angry Giuliani Aide Lashes Back

The other day on Fox News Sunday, Rudolph W. Giuliani blamed a former aide for the decision to put the city’s emergency command center at 7 World Trade Center, where it was destroyed on 9/11. Now the aide, Jerome M. Hauer, the former director of emergency management, has fired back, giving Lloyd Grove of New York magazine a February 1996 memo that shows he argued for a Brooklyn location. He says the mayor overruled him.

Here is what Mr. Giuliani said on Fox:

Jerry Hauer recommended that as the prime site and the site that would make the most sense. He recommended that site as the site that would be the best site. It was largely on his recommendation that that site was selected.

Mr. Hauer’s memo to First Deputy Mayor Peter J. Powers recommended the MetroTech Center in downtown Brooklyn: “The building is secure and not as visible a target as buildings in Lower Manhattan.” The World Trade Center had been bombed three years earlier.

Mr. Hauer told Lloyd Grove in an interview:

Rudy’s getting a lot of heat for the decision. He’s trying to run on his homeland-security and national-security background, and if you start peeling back the skin on the errors he made when he was mayor, you take away a lot of the basis for his candidacy… I feel sad that he would betray somebody that had served him loyally in the past, and I’m angry, too. But when you get to know Rudy, you know that this is the kind of thing he does. That’s just his personality.

Updates:
Giuliani, 9/11 and the Emergency Command Center, Continued
Rosie O’Donnell’s 9/11 Question [The Lede]

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Giuliani is a lying bully. I hope this blog gets posted on the Caucus site as well. Yesterday, on Hannity & Colmes, Dick Morris defended Giuliani’s decision to put the Emergency Office in the WTC 7 by saying they needed a high place so that they can see emergencies. This “rationale” is a complete joke as WTC 7 is a low building (the office was only on the 23rd floor) and were SURROUNDED BY TALL SKYSCRAPERS ALL AROUND. Jerome Hauer should sue Giuliani for defamation.

Perhaps someone should also ask the question; “Why was the post-1993 NYPD and NYFD fight about priority in emergency rescue responsibility allowed to occur and result in the locking of the roof access doors at the WTC by the NYFD?” How many innicents died because of that decision?

Is anyone really surprised? The sad thing for Rudy will be that his running for President will reveal the real person he is and the real leader he was. People will realize he’s not the hero they thought. Had his ego not put him in the ’08 race, he could’ve and would’ve been remembered much more fondly. I wonder if he was actually starting to believe the hype.

…and Alberto Gonzales delegated the politically-motivated firing of 8 US Attorneys to others.

I suppose one good thing about an early start to the Presidential campaigns is that we will get a better idea of who these people are. I hope at least one of them is worthy of the office.

To answer David’s question: zero. No airborne evacuation of the towers could have happened because the smoke was too thick, and, even then, the sheer numbers of people–roughly 1200 per building–made the volumes impossible to handle without a lot of very hig helicopters. And on one of the towers, actually landing on the roof would have been (I think–I am not sure) almost impossible because of the radio masts.

There are a lot of bad things about 9/11, not least of which is the foolish location of the emergency center. It’s good to *finally* see hizzoner being called to account for this awful decision.

Giuliani is clearly lying as the memo shows, Dick Morris is lying as his rationale is impossible given that his high observation post is surrounded by bigger buildings — but even if Giuiliani were not lying we need someone who can evaluate reports from below. Simple commonsense would indicate that you do not put the emergency command center in a location the enemy have already tried to destroy.

We do not need another ‘duh’ commander guy.

Obviously, Guiliani believes he has the same loyalties that his cohorts Bush and Company enjoy. Kudos to Hauer for speaking up — as did several of the fired US Attorneys in Seattle last week.

I agree that Hauer should sue for defamation. And BushCo should be impeached NOW — before any further damage can be done.

The first time I heard Rudy was putting the command center at WTC I said to friends, “What an idiotic idea! They’ve already attacked there once and they probably will again. Where else would they attack!?”
It struck me as an ego thing for Rudy, like his police motorcade/entourage (contrast with Mike B’s rides on the subway.)
He got too much credit for not falling into a heap on the floor after 9/11. The rest of his time as mayor was full of stupid decisions and his personality defects and callousness more than leaked into his job. (Like his handling of every police vs African American community issue that ever came up (again, contrast with Mike), or his taking his girlfriend to restaurants while his wife was back at Gracie Mansion!)

Dr. Tony Fitchue May 15, 2007 · 2:17 pm

As the ole saying goes, “Where there’s smoke, there’s always a fire.” Part of what this little skirmish reveals about Giuliani’s legendary rough and tumble style of politics is that he may be fully capable of a new level of cut-throat, marginally ethical approach to politics that speaks more to the larger issue of an absence of a strong moral compass. With stakes as high as a GOP nomination, his outsized public ambition may only be trumped by an even larger, ego-centered personality. If we think that the “mushroom cloud” and the “WMD” spin doctors were amoral, then this perhaps is a hint of GOP politics coming straight at us like tiny fireballs of primordial energy.

Could anything show a lack of fitness for the office of President than lying about and falsely blaming others for the biggest mistake you ever made?

His provably false statement on national TV blaming an aide for his decision to put the emergency command bunker at 7 WTC automatically disqualifies him to be President.

If he’s started lying and blaming others for his mistakes this early in the campaign, imagine what he would do as President.

Mayor Bloomberg proved that you could accomplish many of Guiliani’s goals and much more without destroying and alienating people. Hmmmm . . .

One of things that distresses me regarding the Giuliani campaign has been the lack of attention to his governing style. Of course it’s important to discuss his stands on policy issues, but the intolerant, bullying, dictitorial way he governed New York needs far more public exposure. As Mayor he went out of his way to destroy individuals and organizations that had the nerve to disagree with him. He would also frequently blame subordinates for his own failings, as this demonstrates. It’s good this is coming out.

It’s not out-of-character for Rudy to disregard his OEM director’s advice about where to site NYC’s $165M emergency command center, or to misrepresent the facts years later. The crucial follow-up will be to determine exactly why he chose 7 WTC, which was a poor location for a variety of reasons besides close proximity to City Hall and several high risk targets.

It is a tough call, Giuliani. Do we, as New Yorkers, let eveyone know what a manipulative, self obsessed SOB he is or is it better to let the GOP have him as their candidate as a form of complete payback?

I agree that Giuliani has not the skills or common sence tobe president. But look who we have now. When will the US population wise up and find someone that is not a life long politian to lead this country. Please democrats and republicans find some one that
has not been in public life for once, that knows how to do a deal and can manage people. Only then will we have a suitable canidate.

Giuliani’s administration (or hizzoner) was trying to shut down the Family Assistance Centers in Manhattan early on in 2001. The place was still smoldering and they wanted to shut down the help being given to family and others traumatized and devastated by the attacks.

The reason why he gets some credit for being a good Mayor then is because he was the 1 leader that I remember that said we shouldn’t demonize Muslims and that the number of dead would be too much to bear.

The fact that Guiliani is associated with New York City is ample reason to disqualify him for office. That he is also a duplicitous and venal politico only helps bring along those who don’t understand point #1.

This exposure of the destruction of Giuliani’s “bunker” demytholiges his finest post 9/11 “photo ops”, walking with his aides and other Govt. officials in the dust and destruction. It’s because the he didn’t have a control center to go to! No wonder he’s fighting to save that image.

It is so heartening to see Rudy taken down a couple of notches. I can only hope that more and more of his dishonesty and abysmal record becomes well known to the American public. It is time that the rest of this country (and the world) learns that most New Yorkers are extremely frightened about a Giuliani presidency, and it has nothing to do with him being a Republican; it has everything to do with his personality, temperament, record, and history of lies and deception.

It should come as no surprise that Rudy can be a very nasty guy.
His popularity in Podunk is a political mystery that demonstrates what good P.R. could do for the guy. His fallout with Bratton and a host of other tidbits offers clues to his character. His waffling on abortion is another wonderful example of his political balancing act.

While I give him credit for taking care of the squeege problem I’m not sure that qualifies him for higher office. If I were him I would not give up my day job.

Another classic example of a politican playing baseball in a glass house. They think they can keep pitching without somebody breaking the glass ! Then like a little brat when the glass gets broken shouting…it wasn`t me, wasn`t me ! Good for Mr. Hauer in setting the record straight !
It of course would have been closer to the facts for Mr. Giuliani to own up to his ultimate responsibility as the Mayor of New York in finalizing all such decesions. If my memory serves me at this time, the Mayor made a grand show of his decesion to “create” a centralized command post for emergency situations. That in itself was a prudent, forward thinking decesion made by Mayor Giuliani back in the mid 1990’s.
He would been far better served to have pointed out that 7 WTC was also home to several other governmental agencies with similar type offices as the OEM headquarters. It was in fact considered a state of the art location for any such facility.Utilizing that information but also taking into consideration recomendations to the contrary from members of his administration,the decesion as Mayor of New York was to locate the command post at 7WTC,end of story !
I guess Rudy is not up to the challenge,He just likes to pitch !

Giuliani was on the ropes as mayor and took advantage of a terrible event to masquerade as a leader by standing next to the commander guy and speaking into a bullhorn reciting what any normal human would say about not letting this stand and then strolling in a group with his lackeys, who should have been at their posts doing their jobs. Giuliani and Bush are two prime examples of all talk and no action. Yes it is better to let the GOP have their just deserts and pick another turkey.

I hope Lloyd Groves’ article in New York magazine will demonstrate what many New Yorkers already know about Rudy: that he is a bully who would try to take credit for everything good and point fingers for everything bad.

This is the man, don’t forget, who announced his divorce AT A PRESS CONFERENCE–Donna Hanover found out about it while watching the news.

This is the man who did nothing in his time as mayor to promote race relations during a time that was tense in this city.

This is the man who took credit for a steep drop in crime, while totally ignoring the fact that a huge economic boom (which he had zero to do with) is the reason why crime in our city went down.

Rudy is not presidential material, unless you are using George W. Bush as your point of reference.

Wow. Is everyone really this knee-jerk liberal, or just too afraid to point out the obvious? Giuliani may not have had popular tactics, but the transformation from the worst crime city to the safest largest city in the nation wasn’t coincedence.You whiners sip on your lattes where you’d have been afraid to walk 15 years ago, muchless buy your coffee and scones at. Everything’s a trade-off. If Clinton had been mayor, and done exactly the same, he’d be a hero. Maybe the command center was a mistake- but tearing apart every accomplishment down to his character? That’s as much a reflection on how little you people obviously want to dissect what’s good for the city.

This incident says it all about the Rudy I remember. Rudy is the kind of person who would alienate people just for the sake of alienating them. He’s is the New York Newt Gingrinch that you wish would just go away, but won’t. Mike Bloomberg was a breathe of fresh air following Rudy. Mike is a guy you could agree or disagree with wihout having it turn into a test of manhood.

Said it before and I will say it again: Rudy G. has as much chance of being President as me. Every week brings a new revelation casting him in a negative light. In political parlance, he’s toast. But every silver lining has a cloud. This may prompt Bloomberg to enter the race as an Independent. Spare us, please!!!!!