Wikipedia Bans Scientology From Site

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First Posted: 05-29-09 09:02 AM   |   Updated: 05-29-09 12:41 PM

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Wikipedia has banned the Church of Scientology and its members from editing its site after discovering that members of the church were editing articles in order to give the church favorable coverage.

The move is being hailed as "an unprecedented effort to crack down on self-serving edits," and it is the first instance in which Wikipedia has banned a group as large as the Church of Scientology.

The Register reports:

According to evidence turned up by admins in this long-running Wikiland court case, multiple editors have been "openly editing [Scientology-related articles] from Church of Scientology equipment and apparently coordinating their activities." Leaning on the famed WikiScanner, countless news stories have discussed the editing of Scientology articles from Scientology IPs, and some site admins are concerned this is "damaging Wikipedia's reputation for neutrality."


One admin tells The Reg that policing edits from Scientology machines has been particularly difficult because myriad editors sit behind a small number of IPs and, for some reason, the address of each editor is constantly changing. This prevents admins from determining whether a single editor is using multiple Wikipedia accounts to game the system. In Wikiland, such sockpuppeting is not allowed.


The Wikicourt considered banning edits from Scientology IPs only on Scientology-related articles. But this would require admins to "checkuser" editors - i.e. determine their IP - every time an edit is made. And even then they may not know who's who.

The case — the fourth Scientology-related dispute on the site in four years — opened in December 2008 and closed Thursday with the Wikipedia arbitration committee voting unanimously to block IP addresses associated with the Church from editing the site.

"The purpose of Wikipedia is to create a high-quality, free-content encyclopedia in an atmosphere of camaraderie and mutual respect among contributors," part of the decision read. "Use of the encyclopedia to advance personal agendas - such as advocacy or propaganda and philosophical, ideological or religious dispute - or to publish or promote original research is prohibited."

"Editors who access Wikipedia through an organization's IP address and who edit Wikipedia articles which relate to that organization have a presumptive conflict of interest," it continued. "Regardless of these editors' specific relationship to that organization or function within it, the organization itself bears a responsibility for appropriate use of its servers and equipment. If an organization fails to manage that responsibility, Wikipedia may address persistent violations of fundamental site policies through blocks or bans."

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Scientology, the committee concluded, is so controversial a subject that it requires special oversight for the site's purposes:

3.0) This longstanding dispute is a struggle between two rival factions: admirers of Scientology and critics of Scientology.


A) Editors from each side have gamed policy to obtain advantage and disputes have spilled over into, for example, articles for deletion, the reliable sources noticeboard, the conflict of interests noticeboard, and sometimes the administrators' noticeboard.


B) Aggravating factors have been (i) the presence of editors openly editing from Church of Scientology equipment and apparently coordinating their activities; and (ii) the apparent presence of notable critics of Scientology, from several Internet organisations, apparently editing under their own names and citing either their own or each other's self-published material.


C) Each side wishes the articles within this topic to reflect their point of view and have resorted to battlefield editing tactics, with edits being abruptly reverted without any attempt to incorporate what is good, to maintain their preferred status quo.


D) The worst casualties have been biographies of living people, where attempts have been repeatedly made to slant the article either towards or against the subject, depending on the point of view of the contributing editor.


E) However, this problem is not limited to biographies and many Scientology articles fail to reflect a neutral point of view and instead are either disparaging or complimentary.

Read the full decision here.

Wikipedia has banned the Church of Scientology and its members from editing its site after discovering that members of the church were editing articles in order to give the church favorable coverage. ...
Wikipedia has banned the Church of Scientology and its members from editing its site after discovering that members of the church were editing articles in order to give the church favorable coverage. ...
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Do edits to Wiki go directly online, or do edits have to pass through a moderator first?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 PM on 05/30/2009

Whether one agrees that the Church of Scientology has systematically violated Wikepedia's Terms of Service and should be banned, it is obvious that this "fix" cannot technically work. The Scientology organization is technically sophisticated and will easily devise distributed work-arounds.

From a broader viewpoint, this episode can be viewed as more evidence of social economics that will ultimately drive anonymity out of the internet.

Facebook, MySpace, LinkedIn, Twitter and so many other communication phenomena are just others suggesting that inevitable result.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 05/30/2009

The Internet has never been truly anonymous, anyone that has the ability can find out where any message or e-mail originated, even if it was coming from a fictitious address,. Properly traced, anything can be tracked to its origin. Besides the Internet was never meant to be anonymous, it was designed as a medium to exchange ideas between universities. Granted it has morphed in to some other thing but still it was never intended to be anonymous and any message can be tracked if need be.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 PM on 05/30/2009

Where do they draw the line? Will The Vatican be banned from editing? Will political parties be banned from editing? Who decides?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 PM on 05/30/2009

Well obviously you didn't read the article in this case since Wikipedia content belongs to Wilkipedia, their board of directors can determine who can and can't edit posts. In this particular case had you read the article the board felt that the church itself was engaged in edits that were self serving. Under your idea of an open and free network of information, none of it could be trusted if everyone was allowed to edit information about themselves, do you think that any organization should be allowed to change content because they disagreed with it? Apparently so.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 05/30/2009
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The real question is, would you buy an encyclopedia full of lies and propaganda? Wiki has the right to edit things out as it sees fit. Credibility is at stake. Wiki is not the Onion.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 05/30/2009

I have no problem with banning self-serving edits. I once edited a wikipedia article that stated "unfortunately" Raymond van Barneveld lost a darts match. I eliminated the "unfortunately" language, in part because I am a fan of Phil Taylor. Without vigilence then wikipedia would be full of self-serving articles and you could no longer trust its information.

Scientology may be a good place to start. But what about all the self-serving articles about Adam Weishaupt and the Bavarian Illuminati.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 PM on 05/30/2009
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There should be a disclaimer with each religion. Caution: May reinforce artificial dilusions and visions, for dilusion lasting more than four hours, please consult a physician.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 PM on 05/30/2009

LOL - excellent disclaimer and exactly what is needed.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 PM on 05/30/2009

As opposed to "real" delusions?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 PM on 05/30/2009
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Maybe they take their posts over to Dickipedia.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 AM on 05/30/2009

Scientology isn't even a religion!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 AM on 05/30/2009

Does this mean I won't have to wear my aluminum foil hat to protect me from dangerous emissions when I am writing or editing Wiki articles? What will Greta Van Susteren do when she finds out?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 05/30/2009
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Crack a smile.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 05/30/2009

Aluminum hats don't work. You need to have the old fashioned tin.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 PM on 05/30/2009
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Amen, meaning the end to politics partnering with religions and to the Bush/Cheney era. That partnership was not for guidance from God, but for the benefits of tax freedom for religious "bigots" and for saying, "God told me to do this."

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 AM on 05/30/2009
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Religion in general is a joke. It is just another way to keep people seperate from each other & an excuse to do mean & hateful things to each other "in the name of the Lord"

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 AM on 05/30/2009

AMEN!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 AM on 05/30/2009
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Actually, religion is mostly a way to avoid having to face tough issues of existence (like life's meaning and the reality of death) in a mature, rational manner. It's much easier to create an imaginary "supernatural" black box to throw those problems into in exchange for comforting, but bogus, "answers." For example, next time someone tells you that without god existence has no meaning or purpose ask them what the meaning and purpose of god's existence is. If they tell you something like "God's nature is impossible for man to understand" ask them how it is then possible for them to say anything at all about the ultimate meaning and purpose of their lives other than that they really have no idea.
You see, that's gets to the heart of the cop-out, the evasion.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 05/30/2009

Scientology, Christianity, Catholicism, thisism , thatism,
Blah blah blah.......................

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 AM on 05/30/2009

lol why only Christian stuff? Personally I think your taking a BIG step lumping actual religions of any kind with Scientology. Even if you think religious people beliefs are false, the difference is many religions are actually community centers, they bring people together, cults like scientology break apart families and separate communities.

The difference between cults and religions is this:
Religions are when people from the top to the bottom believe their religion is true. Cults are when the people at the top know its a scam, and they spend most of their time trying to manipulate and control others to believe their crap. (all for personal gain of some kind)

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 05/30/2009

Until the person running the cult actually starts to believe his own lies...

and then it becomes a religion?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 05/30/2009

They should be prosecuted for religious fraud, reckless endangerment of children, medical malpractice, racketeering and if anyone died as a result of the fraudulent medical evaluation or not getting proper medicine there should be at the very least wrongful death charges.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 AM on 05/30/2009
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Anytime your church is based on fiction you should be questioned.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 AM on 05/30/2009
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That would mean, all of them.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 AM on 05/30/2009
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Agreed. Should be renamed Church of Science Fiction.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 05/30/2009

Which, given its origins...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 PM on 05/30/2009

Scientology is an amateurish knock-off of gnosticism, and a practical joke that got out of hand.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 AM on 05/30/2009

about time you get rid of that freaky cult by a failed science fiction writter

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 AM on 05/30/2009
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I don't think he was failed. He was pretty successful as a writer. His religion is goofy. I prefer Rastfarianism.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 AM on 05/30/2009
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I prefer Pastfarianism.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 AM on 05/30/2009
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Hubbard would roll over in his grave is he saw what they were doing to his life teachings. From what i have read, it was never supposed to be a religion. How it became a religion is beyond me.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 AM on 05/30/2009
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