"Revolution 1 (Take 20)" (10:47)Has Another Holy Grail Surfaced?
The legendary, unreleased "Revolution 1 (Take 20)" has surfaced. Mark Lewisohn tells us in The Beatles Recording Sessions (pop ups below) that this take (#18, revised to #20 after overdubs) was the first track recorded for The White Album, begun on May 30, 1968. Takes 1-17 were shorter, more conventional versions of the song, but #18/20 (the take edited and used on the album) went on for over 10 minutes, dissolving into chaos and inspiring the infamous "Revolution 9" - which used some of this track's sounds, effects & voices (like Yoko Ono's familiar "you become naked"). Is it real? Knowledgeable die-hards think so, and it sounds great. Ignore the disguise, @320/FLAC-Nov 17 in Comments.
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Okay, you win. This is the best music blog in the known universe. My hat's off to you permanently. Oh, and by the way: thank you.
cheers willard...
Wow, very cool, thanks.
PAF
It's been a long time since I read Lewisohn's Recording Sessions. Thanks for reminding me and thanks for this!!
Thanks for the share. although it kinda sounds like Lennon's Vocals have been dubbed on from another source to me.
Still, it's a keeper, whatever !
Mal
My, My...what have we here? Sounds like the real thing to these ears. What an incredible find. The closest thing I could find to this take was the control room playback during a Yoko interview from 68, and trying to tune Yoko out so I could hear the music on the monitors behind her...Then again, this could be one of the most brilliantly edited outfakes in Beatle bootleg history. I can't help but think it's the former, and one of many remixes of that session before they finally decided to lob 6 minutes off the track. Congrats on this piece, and Cheers...Paul
Dylan now Beatles I think the bar has been raised well over the fence and into the next field brilliant as always and you guessed it we all like the Beatles as well ....
Dynamite.
Wow! Thank you VERY much!!
so tell me how do you download this and other songs from your blog thanx
Click the title, Mike. You'll need a program to unzip the package (search Google... we use StuffIt).
Thanks for all the comments.
I'm not convinced. Seems too easy to construct an out-fake. I'd be quite happy to be wrong, though.
I think it's the real thing!
ROTP(lumber)
simon webbon stole my coat
rap, if this is an outfake it's the greatest ever conceived of. it matches Lewisohn's decades old description perfectly using Beatles and voices and sounds that have never surfaced anywhere before. some of those revolution 9 sounds could not have been taken out of the released track. even the basic track that is familiar from the white album is sonically different. this has got to be the real thing.
If this isn't real I'll burn all my Beatles albums
Alex,
Yes... this is the Speed Corrected version. Thanks.
Hi Willard, are you sure it's speed corrected and not just pitch corrected, I have replayed the track at 6/5 times normal speed, it then runs at just under 9 mins and sounds a more realistic tempo. the current version does seem to be very slow, and the "Do-Wop" backing vocals seem more natural at the slightly faster speed
Mal
As I said, I hope I'm wrong but having experienced the magic of The Beatles Remixers Group and other wizards, I'm a little gun shy.
Willard's imprimatur does add credibility, however.
Mal,
Not having done it myself I can only quote the source. But, you could be right.
Rap,
As for it's authenticity... I happen to be convinced. But... I DID use question marks in the post, so you can't just go by my enthusiam. Thanks for vote of confidence, though.
The drums past the five-minute point have me thinking it's a clever fake...but it's a good one.
Just to add my 2 cents. It does sound very real and corresponds with some other monitor mixes where John and Yoko talk over the music and it could be possible that high pitched voice in the beginning is Tiny Tim. Well let us hope for the leak of 25 minutes of Helter Skelter. Cheers all you Beatle people.
It sounds weird to say this, but it really doesn't matter (although it is interesting) if this is the Real Thing or not. What this IS, without any doubt, is ten minutes of fantastic Beatles music. It sounds real to me, but what would I know? One of the things that makes it sound real is the inclusion of several totally new Beatle-sounds (which I can't describe) - if I was even the smartest Beatles counterfeiter I'd hesitate before including (say) the weird one-note metallic electronic hum (I tried to describe it) that reoccurs throughout this. That sounds like inspired madness to me, as does the whole wonderful piece. I've read some crits of this, saying it's interesting as a one-off listen - are they crazy? This takes its place in the Beatles canon. You can find a spiffy Alan Aldridge "revolution" image (Google Image Search "Beatles Revolution") to dress up the track on your iTunes, too!
This just in - sorta - the graybeards on the Steve Hoffman forum - who *know* about these things - form a consensus of agreement that it is the Real Thing.
And it is freaking wonderful - if you like White Album freakery. Can't stop listening to it!
A few experts weigh in on its authenticityhere.
Bottom line: nothing is real and nothing to get hung about.
JUST KIDDING!!
Well, it must be the real thing if those nice people at EMI have pulled out all stops to stop people listening to this. grab it while you can folks before it gets its official release on the white album remaster (due some time in 2015 hahahahahaha)
Mal
THANK YOU!!!
Clearly NGOOTB is going to have to become a daily visit again. I think I very nearly missed this one. Well done, Captain.
I say "genuine." The pitch wobble on the "all right" vocal recalls #9, and this couldn't be faked unless either the vox were available separately (which they're not) or it's not JL (which it is, IMO). Ergo: not fake, IMO.
PS. I call dibs on "Take your knickers off, and let's go" for a bootleg title.
I've just compared it side-by-side to the monitor mixes of Yoko's tape from disc 2 of the Kinfauns to Chaos boot, and this is the real thing. Among other reference points, the moment that suggests this is authentic occurs at 9:42 when George shouts "It is that!" It matches exactly with Yoko's tape from '68.
It's the real deal. The biggest bombshell in Beatlegs since the glory days.
Thanks for the A/B, Rick.
Ha. I guess I wasn't quick enough in reserving that title.
As much as I'm grateful to you, Will, for releasing this gem from your collection, I have to say it's mean-spirited of you to hoard those Nagra reels of Helter Skelter (27 minute version) and Carnival Of Light. Do we have to wait ANOTHER thirty years?
(Seriously though, this one is the most fun I've had for a long time. And it's better - and more interesting AND more important - than anything on the Anthology series. Wow.)
What a great band... few things truly excite like Beatle music. God bless 'em.
(and I think it's real... some bits sound like they've been flown in from Revolution No. 9, but most of the sounds on that track are new to me)
utterly fab
Alex, it's the other way round - sections were flown OUT of this IN to Number Nine. What a find.
Ye have been metafiltered:
http://www.metafilter.com/79472/The-Holy-Grail-of-Beatles-Outakes
George Harrison was my producer. I was in a band called Jiva in the mid '70s and we were on his label, Dark Horse Records. We hung out about a year and were regaled with stories about their incredible sessions, which George was more than happy to share!
Good times, then. So good I'm probably lucky to be alive!
Revolution Take......Your Knickers Off (FLAC) Links Disc 1:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FIED1390
Disc 2:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QJAH9XPN
Artwork
http://www.moptop.org/music/docs/beatles/boots/cd/hmc006.htm
Beast Wishes
Mal
Amazing stuff! Anyone know if this one is also genuine? It appeared the same time at Take 20 and seems to be an alternative mix Revolution 9.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDRdMSTAnAg
Hello, this was on the purple chick deluxe disc 6 I downloaded a year ago. Willard thanks for the great tunes and info!
The Capt. coast of Maine
Thanks Mal.
The purple Chick disc had a moniter playback with Yoko Ono talking over the top of it as mentioned by others above. This is a different version
Yeah, that Purple Chick version has me screaming SHUUUUUUT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK UUUUUUUP YOKO! - and not for the first time.
Mal's megaupload links are dead, btw.
Hey Rap,
Links are dying quickly so I'd rather not draw undue attention to our other pals. Thanks for the Mal update.
W
Just looked this up in The Beatles Recording Sessions by Mark Lewiston. This is the 1st song recorded after their return from India (May 30,'68). They did takes 1-18 this day, going from 2.30 pm to 2.40 am. The song at that point was 10' 17". It was also the session where JL introduced Yoko to the rest of 'em.
Next day (31st) was 9 1/2 hrs to dub take 18 into 19 and do some other overdubs - primarily the bass, and some add'l chatter.
June 4th - 10 1/2 hrs. "Tape loops takes 1 & 2". JL records a new lead vocal lying on the floor (he thought it sounded better). All dubbed into new take 20. This session added the backing vocals starting at about the 4'47" mark - it's Paul and George saying "mama, dada, mama, dada" over and over. Many other things recorded and subsequently dropped from the final version.
June 25. After several days starting some new material (Don't Pass Me By, Revolution 9, Blackbird, Rev.9 again) they spent 5 hrs. finishing this thing up - lopping a bunch off the end, doing a stereo remix, etc.
Whew! Did a lot of paraphrasing and left much out. What a great book!
I think it's an out-fake, and a very good one, too. I hear all of #9 in there, with a lot of electronic overdubs, and there's your clue - the Beatles liked their electronics, and were enjoying the benefits of overdubbing and remixing that was lacking in their earlier stuff - not that far behind the White Album, either - but they were not as dependant on it as this track indicates.
Still a well-done tune, and if it is an out-fake, my hat's off to whoever did it.
coos doug, did you think to click on the Mark Lewiston pages already in the post?
Oh well. Tomorrow never knows.
Is this the original source of this track?
(link removed)
In which case, the word 'reconstruction' does rather hint at a fake, doesn't it?
No, it's not. You might also note the date is after this post. You'd have to ask them why they chose to use the word "Reconstruction."
Apologies. My mistake: I should have checked the dates. So, where did it come from?
A bootleg CD entitled "Revolution Take... Your Knickers Off!" The CD's original track was then speed corrected (thanks to Mal, I've since heard the original, and it's VERY slow). Do some Googling and you may find links, but they disappear fast. Mal, in his comment above, left us a link for the art (http://www.moptop.org/music/docs/beatles/boots/cd/hmc006.htm).
OK Willard, that's fascinating. When did that CD first appear, I wonder?
Also, it kind of begs the question: where did THEY get it from? I suppose that's the one that will never be answered.
Anyway, has anyone managed to identify something in this track that really could not have come from the Yoko 'playback' tapes and/or No.9? In other words, 'proof' that it might well be real?
The discs first appeared about a week ago. For details about the tracks and authenticity, read the comments above. There's a lot of info there.
Probably the best "proof" is that the recording corresponds to a previously release bootleg from years ago which featured this track playing in the background as Yoko Ono was having a conversation close to the mic. Those that have compared the two seem to be convinced.
And I imagine you could argue that people who have compared the two closely would be ideal candidates for fakery.
I had a look above. All conjecture really. Nobody's actually done the work and listened closely to come up with proof either way.
Hey, Anonymous, feb 27...................Whatever!
I just know that links have been falling like canadian geese entering the engine of a plane landing in the Hudson River, and there has to be a reason why. My gut is...It's a real take and Apple Corp does not want it out there for one reason or another. I agree with them that it is not part of the known and true Beatle Canon, but being that the boys last recording was almost 40 years ago, I think it would be time to loosen up on the restrictions that prevent unknown takes, alternates, ect from seeing the light of day. What we are talking about now are aspects of musical history. musical archeology, and research into the young minds of the dash and daring young men who attempted these sounds over 40 years ago.
I have listened closely to this track, and the monitor mix behind the Yoko interview. Even though I heard what appeared to be more 'explosions' in the ending of the revolution track on monitors with the Yoko interview, I found the track to be the same backing track. I cannot say if the track was later customized, modified, demilitarized, or altered in any way. What I have is a musician's 'gut feeling' that this is something they did not want released, and now it's out there, so enjoy it for God sake ...Paul
As to where 'They' got it from, Mark Lewisohn says "A rough mono mix of take 20 (which was a reduction of 19) and an additional copy of this were made at the end of the session for taking away by John and one other person (unnamed on studio documents)."
Who knows, maybe one never got returned! Just glad I got it while I could find an active link, as it's true about them disappearing so fast.
Is there enough unheard Beatle material out there I wonder for an Anthology 4? Probably, but (unfortunately) such a product would need to be aimed at pleasing the mass market, and a track like this would just be seen as too weird, too long - at least to casual fans.
Is it an outfake? I don't know, but let's not forget that quite a few outtakes on Anthology were themselves a mish-mash of various takes. So even if Apple released this wonderful track, you can bet it would be edited to death.
I'll go with Tiny Tim saying 'Take your knickers off!' He was hanging around alot from what I have read. Why do people thinks it's Lennon?
If this is a fake then why has EMI been removing any trace from youtube and such like???
If it is fake then hats off to 'em whoever made it - it's cool!
I don't know why people are saying it's Lennon either. It sounds like a slowed down Cilla Black, who is heard hanging around with McCartney learning Step Inside Love on the 2CD boot.
This is the real deal. Amazing stuff! I was around in the day... I hope you guys don't get in trouble for this one. Thanks for all!
Played this morning on Breakfast with the Beatles on Sirius XM!
THAT'S gotta piss off some lawyers.
New Beatles music? Are you kidding? Fantastic to hear. Reminds of the Dylan bootlegs he's been releasing the last few years - wish the Beatles would do the same? Are you listening, Paul? Ringo> Let us hear some of the demos and alternate takes. Please.
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Great Blog. The Best!
Yay, an unheard track by the Knickerbockers in all their glory. Big time kKudos to you Willard!
salivating as it d/ls.
cheers
TN
Hi Taro,
Yeah... it was my 4th attempt to keep the link alive and, so far, so good.
Thanks for all the comments.
Unless someone got a hold of all the original source tapes, it's real.
It's real. Fantastic - and thank you Willard, this is genius. For anyone (that) interested in Mr Lennon, also have a look at my blog about his house, if you like -
kenwoodlennon.blogspot.com
Anyone notice the similarity between George's 'air raid siren' guitar and The Who's 'Armenia City in the Sky'?
Which came first? I must dig in and figure it out.
Which came first? Probably actual air raid sirens from the 40s, which influenced them all. Thanks for commenting.
i don't believe it, not for a minute. too much post production. begins live & sloppy, but ends very cleanly. however, whoever is reponsible for this did a very good job. i like it, but i don't believe it.
Tiny Tim? Now that's a bit creative. The only voices heard in the intro are Lennon, Martin, Peter Brown (sounding incredibly like the reportedly absent Geoff Emerick) and Linda Eastman.
Brown: Revolution OM one, or...
Martin: Nevermind. Forget it.
Lennon: Take yer knickers off and let's go.
Linda E: (Laughs)
Brown: As you said.
[Missing dialogue:
Jenny Boyd: Did you mean that John?]
Lennon: Every bit of it, Jen.
Brown: Ready.
Brown: Revolution Take Twenty.
Lennon: Yeah, alright.
Brown: Revolution Take Twenty.
Lennon: (Inaudible but possibly 'YesamaGeoff!', as in Emerick, who according to Lewisohn was not at the session.)
This is the real thing. Edits? Who knows but seems good enough that those who were there would not remember otherwise. The source? As with everything else, PM. ;-)
I have a theroy, go with me here for a minute. I wonder if this was leaked by the people doing the RockBand : Beatles game? I knwo for a fact that some of the Harmonix engineers were at Abbey Road recently and I am wondering if this was put out there as some kind of viral marketing in anticipation of the game being released? Dahni has said that the game will definately will contain unreleased material. I have no proof but I do know that the Harmonix engineers were given access to the entire complete catalog of master tapes and since this has never leaked before this might explain how this was leaked out. I personally think it was on purpose to generate buzz..
Interesting theory as far as the leakage (others also had recent access to The Beatles masters during the creation of the Cirque/Love release). I wouldn't be surprised if you were on to something about how it may have leaked out of the studios recently.
But... regarding the marketing, the theory falls apart. First... EMI has worked overtime to get the song pulled from blogs and high profile outlets like YouTube. Kind of defeats the purpose of viral marketing when you release it and stop it. Don't suggest it was just for the publicity, because the interest has been limited largely to the online music world. Second, the actual source of this song was a bootleg CD release, filled with other Beatles tracks, which they would certainly never endorse. Third... there will be so much buzz on the Beatles licensing their music for the gaming series that a viral campaign is virtually unnecessary - especially at the cost of a prime, unreleased track. Of all the people on earth, The Beatles are not going to just give it away when they can sell it. Not that they're any greedier than the next band, it's just that they don't even SELL their music (via iTunes), much less give it away. What your suggesting is totally out of character for them.
But... you may be right on the leak source, even though... many have suspected Mark Lewisohn for ALL the studio quality tapes that have come out in the past few decades. It wasn't until he was allowed access for his book that tapes first began to surface. I personally don't believe he KNOWINGLY leaked anything he gained access to, but before that - those tapes were locked up tighter than a drum. And, probably still are today.
Thanks for commenting.
I made the comment yesterday, I am more of a video game\rock band type of guy. I found this blog after following some of the Harmonix engineers on twitter and saw some of their comments about various thing Beatles related. Many of them have commented on how amazing the Master tapes are. I know that the game is very close to being in its final form and has been demoed this week for several high level industry types who have come away very impressed and have gone on to call the game the most amazing music game they have even seen. I would expect to see some amazing gem's come out of this project as the entire Beatles family and Apple is behind it. The Harmonix engineers were at Abbey Road last week putting some finishing touches on the final tracks. I know all the music that is going to be in the game is complete and it is currently being play tested with final build versions due at the end of July for a 9/9/09 relase date. Just in case you haven't seen it you can go to http://www.thebeatlesrockband.com/ and you can clearly hear sounds of the band talking in the studio.
My vote is that this track is certainly "real" and can be sourced back to Lennon's plastic spool. Between those tapes and acetates that Lennon gave away, misplaced, and had stolen, I believe that is the most likely source, with its becoming booted perhaps due to the death of the collector owning the tape all these years. The fact that Lewisohn refers to the mix as an "unnumbered rough" indicates that no copy was even retained at Abbey Road and what ML heard was, or was derived from, the session multitracks. Therefore, the specific mix heard here was not heard by ML while writing RS. At the beginning of this track, the engineer is clearly heard speaking "RM1" as on countless other booted mixes, unreleased or not. "Take your knickers off" sounds very much to me like Lennon using one of his many funny voices, with someone else's laugh punctuating it perhaps adding to confusion as to the source of the comment. Lewisohn indicates extensive overdubbing in his account, so I don't think the amount of overdubbing means this track is a fake as has been suggested. It is wonderful to hear the genesis of Revolution 9 like this, and it is wonderful to hear this track in a version other than the offline recording narrarated by Yoko. I still feel that as time goes by, those of us who live long enough will have the opportunity to "hear it all." But man, it's difficult to be patient...
Wow
For me it is amazing why all forget White Album 30th Anniversary Westwood One radio release. Here you could find Revolution 1 going into Revolution 9 version long before recent take 20 surfaced and While my guitar gently wheeps plus 20 sec extra ending.
I have an old boot cd on vigotone from the late 80's early 90's and this is on it. it sounds as though it was recorded on a small unit in a sound room while this take was playing through the monitors. it's poor quality and you can hear other conversations that are more in the foreground. but it's this same extended track. anyone else have this?
Yes... it's the Yoko Ono monitor mix mentioned in the comments above.
Dear Willard
Revolution 1 to revolution 9 that is placed on White Album 30th Anniversary Westwood One Radio is not YokoOno monitor mix. If it was monitor mix spoiled by Yoko I should never mentioned it.
This 2CD contains many unreleased mixes from White Album. I recomend to all to listen to this 2CD you will find many interesting things.
Revolution1/Revolution 9 track is the high quality track without any Yoko voices but it is not take 20. The only problem that on the middle of revolution 9 it is cut by narrator voice (this CD is copy of Westwood One radio programm) and is added by John's recall how he did Revolution
It is better to listen that to talk about
White Album 30th anniversary link here:
http://yourmothershouldknow03.blogspot.com/search?q=white+30th+anniversary
Thanks. Thought you were talking about the Yoko mix, sorry.
Having recently read the latest Lennon biography this is quite a thrill to hear this. But I wonder can you get a hold of Carnival of Light?
Nobody has that yet. Another Holy Grail.
Just as an addendum - somebody on the (oooooffffff ...) Steve Hofffffman Music Forum *eventually* gave up the information that a highly-placed and unimpeachable source had revealed to him personally that the track is absolutely legit. This was after a lengthy and extremely tedious series of veiled hints and shadow-dancing on his part, as knowledge of the provenance chain in this thing is not without legal complications.
If anyone out there is *still* folding their arms and "being unconvinced" at this stage, they will find themselves in the same room as the people who believe the moon landings were faked, and be in good company.
Of course it's the real deal! Hard to fake 10-minutes of Lennon singing! It sounds great!
Cool. Thank you so much!
Russ,
From the text... "Ignore the disguise - get it here @ 320 & FLAC."
Willard
Many thanks - duly downloaded and much appreciated!
Russ
>Anonymous said...
> Anyone notice the similarity >between George's 'air raid siren' >guitar and The Who's 'Armenia >City in the Sky'?
>
> Which came first? I must dig >in and figure it out.
Wait.... wasn't that Entwistle playing the French Horn on Armenia?
Similary, the "Air Raid" sound in Revolution sounds like a horn - actually it sound like one of those stupid red plastic horns that people bring to sports events in order to be obnoxious.
My theory is that this is actually Yoko. Whoever is playing it sounds like they don't have even the slightest whiff of musical talent. Imagine substituting her godawful voice for the "Sirens".... indeed there is a real similarity between the rythm of her usual vocalizing and the "rhythm" of the "Sirens". Whoever is doing this is doing so very unmusically. It just sounds like Yoko's typical assault on the music to me... it's just not expressive in a way you would normally expect from a "real" musician....
I'm no historian, and I'm sure there's probably some actual documentation of what happened in this session, and hey I've been wrong before, but I'd bet it's at least some kind of horn (with some kind of chorusing/phasing effect applied), not a guitar, if it's not actually performed by Yoko. Just a wild guess....
Thanks for posting!
Absolutely incredible! Amazing stuff.
You have my eternal gratitude, and you're joining my favourites list right now :)
Having now read all the previous comments (and a few of the links), I thought I'd weigh in with my opinion, for what it's worth. I think this *could* perhaps be a composite of various mixes/takes, tidied up here and there, much like a lot of the tracks on the Anthology albums. Maybe. But I'm certain everything we're hearing is genuine Beatles, and genuine unreleased Beatles at that! Anyway, who cares? It's grrreat!
I think that "horn" sound is a Mellotron effect.
Also it is to be noted that the version here (and the version on "Revolution Take...Your Knickers Off") is estimated to be 5% slow. A speed corrected version has just been released on:
Mad Day Out: The Evolution of Revolution
which contains:
1. Revolution (Lennon Home Demo)
2. Revolution 1 (Slow Version Take 20– unedited long track with overdubs - Corrected speed)
3. Revolution 2 (Fast Version- rough mix without organ overdub)
4. Revolution 2 (Fast Version- alternate mix with live vocals made for promotional film)
5. Revolution #9 (Avant-Guard version- alternate mix with unused overdubs)
6. Happiness Is A Warm Gun (alternate stereo mix with unused organ overdub)
7. I’m So Tired (early basic mono mix)
8. I’m So Tired (Alternate stereo mix with unused guitar overdub)
9. Step Inside Love/Los Paranois/The Way You Look Tonite/Can You Take Me Back? (John Paul & Ringo having fun during the White Album sessions)
10. Step Inside Love (Paul home demo)
Oh, that previously mentioned Vigotone CD was called "From Kinfauns To Chaos", the Yoko Tape was CD 2, "Chaos."
Purple Chick, with infinite patience and tape looping, took the segments of the Yoko tape without Yoko's voice-over, and spliced it all together, recreating Revolution (Take 20) without all the remix effects that are present in this version. That jigsaw puzzle of sound is found on their "White Album - Deluxe Edition" release. Fortunately (for the Purple Chick and us) the tape is rewound and replayed several times during Yoko's rambling tape notes for her personal secretary, allowing them to sample unYoko'd portions of the tape and re-assemble them in such a way that the track sounds Yoko-free. It's a little bit dodgy, but an effort worth saluting!
Thanks for the info, Walter.
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Dear March 16th
Linda E No, but F Schwartz maybe, pictured in studio (a different day than Blackbird film)and also around for Mad day out, same time period.
stephenmcg
Oh, on the "Mad Day Out" CD I mentioned, the Revolution #9 outtake with additional overdubs is one that has been heard before, specifically on Purple Chick's The Beatles - The Beatles Deluxe Vol. 5(Disc 1). It proves, without question-- in my mind at least-- that this Revolution Take 20 Remix 2 is genuine, in that there are additional pieces heard that clearly come from this newly uncovered remix, such as that "horn."
It probably should be noted that this track was first posted within a day of it first surfacing. And many of the comments are from the first few weeks when no one knew if it was real or yet another Beatles outfake. It seems by now that most are convinced of it's legitimacy. Many thanks for the comments.
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