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11/30/06, 12:07 pm EST

Offspring the Fifth Best Punk Band Ever?

Iggy PopWe’re not as wound up by Kerrang!’s list of the 50 Greatest Punk Albums (full list after the jump) as we were by Q’s Best Twenty Songs In Twenty Years list from yesterday. But perhaps that’s because we’re simply out of ire. We spent it all. Used it up fuming about missing R.E.M. and Weezer songs and the inescapable omnipresence of Robbie Williams.

Kerrang!’s take on the fifty best punk albums, is however kinda off. We’re missing some incredibly influential punk rock bands here (Hüsker Dü, The Germs, Sleater-Kinney, X-Ray Spex, The Subhumans and about 894 more), pluswhich they’ve included some utter shit (Blink-182, the Offspring,) and they got the hierarchy all wrong on the records they did select (Green Day up top with Bad Brains; The Clash, The Stooges, and um, everybody else besides the Sex Pistols trailing?) Also: Why the fuck isn’t X on this list!? Okay the ire’s back.

What would you do with this list?

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  • 50. Killing Joke — Killing Joke (1980)
  • 49. G.B.H. — Leather, Bristles, Studs and Acne (1981)
  • 48. Poison Idea — Feel the Darkness (1990)
  • 47. A.F.I. — Black Sails in the Sunset (1999)
  • 46. Napalm Death — Scum (1987)
  • 45. Stiff Little Fingers — Inflammable Material (1979)
  • 44. Will Haven — El Diablo (1997)
  • 43. Green Day — Nimrod (1997)
  • 42. The Get Up Kids — Something to Write Home About (1999)
  • 41. Social Distortion — White Light White Heat White Trash (1996)
  • 40. Supersuckers — The Evil Powers of Rock ‘N’ Roll (1999)
  • 39. Dwarves — Are Young and Good Looking (1997)
  • 38. Less Than Jake — Hello Rockview (1998)
  • 37. Bad Religion — Suffer (1988)
  • 36. The Mighty Mighty Bosstones — Let’s Face It (1997)
  • 35. The Misfits — Static Age (1978)
  • 34. Sublime — Sublime (1996)
  • 33. The Descendents — Milo Goes to College (1982)
  • 32. Quicksand — Manic Compression (1995)
  • 31. Cro-Mags — Age of Quarrel (1986)
  • 30. The Exploited — Punks Not Dead (1981)
  • 29. Rocket From the Crypt — Scream Dracula, Scream! (1995)
  • 28. Refused — The Shape of Punk To Come (1998)
  • 27. Operation Ivy — Energy (1989)
  • 26. The Vandals — Hitler Bad, Vandals Good (1998)
  • 25. Crass — Feeding of the 5000 (1978)
  • 24. The Ruts — The Crack (1979)
  • 23. NOFX — So Long and Thanks for All the Shoes (1997)
  • 22. Buzzcocks — Love Bites (1978)
  • 21. Bad Brains — Rock for Light (1983)
  • 20. The Offspring — Americana (1998)
  • 19. The Undertones — The Undertones (1979)
  • 18. The Stooges — Raw Power (1973)
  • 17. Minor Threat — Complete Discography (1989)
  • 16. Black Flag — Damaged (1981)
  • 15. The Stooges — Fun House (1970)
  • 14. Blink-182 — Enema of the State (1999)
  • 13. The Clash — London Calling (1979)
  • 12. Fugazi — Repeater (1990)
  • 11. NOFX — Punk in Drublic (1994)
  • 10. Ramones — Ramones (1976)
  • 9. The Damned — Machine Gun Etiquette (1979)
  • 8. The Clash — The Clash (1977)
  • 7. Discharge — Hear Nothing, See Nothing, Say Nothing (1982)
  • 6. Rancid — …And Out Come the Wolves (1995)
  • 5. The Offspring — Smash (1994)
  • 4. Nirvana — Nevermind (1991)
  • 3. Dead Kennedys — Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables (1980)
  • 2. Green Day — Dookie (1994)
  • 1. Sex Pistols — Never Mind the Bollocks, Here’s the Sex Pistols (1977)
-- Elizabeth Goodman

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Comments

Ch33t0 | 7/6/2007, 10:21 pm EST

Greenday, Offspring & Blink 182 should be taken off any great punk band list. They are not even what punk is all about… unless you count what 10 year old kids that hang out at Hot Topic consider as punk.

Ch33t0 | 7/6/2007, 10:21 pm EST

Greenday, Offspring & Blink 182 should be taken off any great punk band list. They are not even what punk is all about… unless you count what 10 year old kids that hang out at Hot Topic consider as punk.

sammy is a punk | 3/5/2007, 10:13 pm EST

the list is o.k but why isnt The Casualties on it???

desueth | 3/5/2007, 10:09 pm EST

to whoever bones is!!!! Punk died when the Ramones came r u f****** retarted they were the blue prints for punk u S.O.B. god ur stupid wat do u think is punk green day bullet in a bible F*** YOU

Corey | 3/2/2007, 9:52 am EST

Fuck where are the Adolescents? I love Green Days Dookie, but it does not deserve a spot on that list.

Kevin | 2/11/2007, 9:22 pm EST

Hi all , very nice site! Thank You !

D-Generate | 1/30/2007, 1:56 pm EST

Holy Shite… Green Day and The Offspring ranked higher than The Clash and the Ramones???? I’m surprised you didn’t put the Go-Go’s and Billy Idol before Bad Brains and the Dead Kennedys…

billys | 1/21/2007, 11:52 am EST

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You're a fucker | 12/26/2006, 9:25 am EST

Piss off!! Where the hell are the UK SUBS???

And what the hell are Greenday actually doing in it…

shove this list up your arse!

asd | 12/18/2006, 9:50 am EST

Where the fuck are Propagandhi?

Ted | 12/11/2006, 8:34 pm EST

I would burn this list. It sucks.

wtf | 12/10/2006, 1:42 pm EST

Offspring’s Smash isn’t utter shit. You’re utter shit.

Waa | 12/2/2006, 11:55 pm EST

Ok, ok i didnt mean it. Its shit but you snuck enough decent punk in there to cover youre ass. My suggestion is to put youre life on hold, buy at least a sheet of acid then go to that sleazy looking record store on the corner of the street youre afraid to walk on, buy the entire punk section and learn a little something.

Waa | 12/2/2006, 11:51 pm EST

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T-Bone | 12/1/2006, 11:01 am EST

Where the fuck are the Dead Boys?
Or The UK Subs?
Or The Germs?
Or even Generation X if you’re gonna have the fucking Get Up Kids and AFI on there.
This list blows.

BenVACANCY! | 12/1/2006, 10:45 am EST

Do we REALLY need 2 Offspring/Green Day records on this list? How about the New York Dolls? or The Dead Boys?

Aaron | 11/30/2006, 11:32 pm EST

Wipe my ass with this worthless list

B.J. | 11/30/2006, 8:27 pm EST

Hooray for the S.P.O.T.S those old fatties deserve it.Ms. Goodman your opinions are good so ignore Adam….he is an a**hole.

Lobsters | 11/30/2006, 7:15 pm EST

The Replacements should be on there but it’s a British list so it could certainly be worse.
I’m seriously sick of this Green Day crap. Have you seen that video they made with U2 about Katrina? Fucking STUPID!

CGEffect | 11/30/2006, 4:03 pm EST

You scared me. It’s only ranking the better punk albums. A bad list anyway. Should Nirvana really count? Blink-182 and The Offspring on there made me laugh. Since The Clash experimented on many music genres I understand why they only have 2 albums there but Give ‘Em Enough Rope has to be on there. Green Day’s best albums were Insomniac and Kerplunk! so Dookie at #2 even as a Green Day fan was puzzling as well as putting Nimrod ahead of those 2 albums.

Kevin | 11/30/2006, 4:02 pm EST

It’s funny that RollingStone calls blink-182 “utter shit” when they gave each of their last 3 cd’s 4 star reviews.

Jeff | 11/30/2006, 3:09 pm EST

The Offspring are not utter shit.

Rrowr | 11/30/2006, 2:26 pm EST

I just realized that, besides Crass, there ain’t any women on this list at all. No Sleater-Kinney or Bikini Kill or the Need. What about the Ex?

This list is on some mainstream…

Rrowr | 11/30/2006, 2:21 pm EST

Seems like pretty much everything post-95 needs to be removed from the list. Not that some of ‘em aren’t good records, but they ain’t that good and some of ‘em ain’t even punk.

Green Day #2? Puh-leeese. That’s retarded. And, I’m sure, listening to Fun House would make Blink-182 cry in the corner…Iggy should be way higher and B-182 shouldn’t even be mentioned.

Where’s Gang of Four? Where’s Wire? X-Ray Spex? The Slits? The Buzzcocks? Television?

No wonder all new ‘punk’ sounds like Dookie (pun intended)…if this list actually reflects what kids think is punk than that goes a long way to explaining Good Charolette and Panic! at the Disco.

CURE GASTROPARESIS | 11/30/2006, 2:20 pm EST

offsprings- smash is a classic. u ever heard ‘come out 2 play’ or ‘pretty fly?’

Bones | 11/30/2006, 1:56 pm EST

Punk died when the Ramones got famous.

who are you? | 11/30/2006, 1:38 pm EST

Blink 182, Sublime, Offspring….punk rock? WTF ?

hey | 11/30/2006, 1:34 pm EST

Alkaline Trio - From Here To Infirmary should be on there somewhere

thereapist... | 11/30/2006, 1:32 pm EST

looks like it’s a list for those in the age bracket of 20-35…these are all the albums that were probably influencial to those making bands now.

you can pretty much tell they haven’t gone really back to the classics BUT instead focussed on the music of their era…so i find it a little wonky and not a true representation of the title.

what do you think??

theworldsforgottenboy | 11/30/2006, 1:31 pm EST

Dookie??? Enema of the State?? Give me a break…Nothing after 1985 should be on that list… it was all industry shit after that and emerging hip-hop was the new “punk ”

Where is the Radio Birdman? The Saints??

Also wrong Social D and Misfits records.

boihggr | 11/30/2006, 1:31 pm EST

What would I do with this list? I’d perforate it, put it on a roll in my bathroom, and then suggest that Kerrang get a Kerrlue as to what punk really is. The albums included are all great for what they are… but a lot of them aren’t really punk, are they?

asdf | 11/30/2006, 1:30 pm EST

Adam, maybe you should read the title of the page where it says “Rolling Stone Rock and Roll Daily > Blog Archive >…” Hey look at that it says blog. Oh shit I might see some opinions.

Sanchez | 11/30/2006, 1:29 pm EST

Well said Adam, well said.

Rolling Stone Job Posting -
Looking for someone to cut and paste other magazines thoughts on tunes.

This Magazine is not far from Empty.

1buj | 11/30/2006, 12:59 pm EST

Notable omission’s:

-Social D’s “Somewhere Between Heaven and Hell”
-Social D’s “Sex, Love and Rock n Roll”
-Fugazi “13 Songs”
-Fugazi “Steady Diet of Nothing”
-Minutemen “Double Nickels on a Dime”
-any Replacements

Adam | 11/30/2006, 12:49 pm EST

Elizabeth Goodman, how do you keep a job? Your utter incompetence is matched by your complete lack of taste in music. This list is for the best PUNK ALBUMS. While there are scores of bands that are not getting their due as artists, “Smash” and “Enema of the State” are great, solid albums front to back. As a rock journalist, your subjective taste should not override your knowledge of what makes good music good. If you’d like, you are more than welcome to make a personal list of your favorite albums in whatever category you’d like, but criticizing real critics is not worthy of a paycheck.

Fat Boy | 11/30/2006, 12:39 pm EST

Bump up the Buzzcocks…

Huh? | 11/30/2006, 12:16 pm EST

The Clash need to be higher!!! Greenday and blink 182 need to be removed. At the drive in’s relationship of command needs to go on here! Good call on the refused though.

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