Ask Dr. Helen: Does Society Encourage Genital Assault Against Men?
The other day I received an email from reader Kevin who is concerned about the increase in the depiction of sexual violence — particularly that of genital assault — against men in our society:
Dear Dr. Helen,
I want to ask you about something because you seem to be a logical and rational person and I am having trouble finding any logical, rational people who have the guts to speak out about this one particular issue.
Ever since I was a kid I have noticed a steady rise in the depictions of sexual violence against males in movies, and later in television. It was obvious that these depictions, always the hero sexually assaulting the villain and almost never the other way around, were encouraging this kind of sexual violence against males. As soon as it became a regular Disney staple it became a regular part of every boy’s life, something he had to endure repeatedly as part of growing up. Even as a kid I was baffled by parents willingness to let this go and not protest it.
As I got older I realized that because it is a kind of castration and extremely emotionally hurtful to males, even grown men simply won’t talk about it. Women laugh, and during the Bobbitt trial the media even made fun of the way men are noticeably hurt by simply hearing about a man being hurt there and even more so by seeing it. Women seemed to find it humorous that one man being sexually abused or castrated in this way caused such pain and discomfort for all males who saw or heard of it. But still nothing was ever done to protest or condemn this abuse.
I thought I would share this email with PJM readers because it is such an important issue. As reader Kevin points out, no one notices or cares about violence against men’s genitals, except to poke fun of those men who are kicked or hit in the balls. People even make fun of men whose penises are severed, as in the case of John Wayne Bobbitt. I think Kevin is correct — no one cares or deals much with the trauma this act may cause to men. I often see shows where a man is kicked in the groin and this is often depicted as funny or “no big deal.” Imagine the uproar if a women were punched in the breast on a television show. It is unthinkable.
There has been research looking at non-sexual genital assault on boys, though I would think that most kicking, punching, or hitting in that area has to be somewhat sexual in nature. Kevin mentions the work of Dr. David Finkelhor, author of books such as A Sourcebook on Child Sexual Abuse. Finkelhor did research on non-sexual genital assault in boys. He found that a number of males had been assaulted in this way. Apparently, there are many boys who are being victimized from something called “ball-tapping,” which is described as follows by a news source:
“Ball tapping” is the act of intentionally hitting or kicking a male in the genitals. Earlier this month, an Eyewitness News investigation showed the game has become commonplace in some area schools, resulting in serious injuries for students.
As part of the investigation, WTHR also conducted a statewide survey of school nurses. The results are in, and they show the problem of ball tapping is more common and widespread than many school officials had realized.
The assault on men and boys in this way is astonishing. The media and society seem to encourage it with jokes, gags, and laughs every time a man’s genitals are damaged. I think we should all fight back against this abuse, for the repercussions of young men being damaged in this way are devastating. They include depression, suicide, and taking out the abuse on others as well as themselves. The sadistic men and women who laugh at this type of assault should be called out by all of us who care about the future of males in this country. We’ve all been told rape jokes aren’t funny, and society has gotten the message. Why is the genital assault of men any different?
Do you think this is a widespread problem?
I’m not gonna lie when I say I laugh at a lot of messed up things (I watch Nightmare on Elm STreet movies for laughs) and I like watching those shows like MTV’s Scarred for the painful injuries.
But in my defense those are (more or less) self-inflicted.
Honestly why anyone would submit to that sort of pain is a mystery to me. If they tryed that with me I’d have made Hostel look like Sesame Street.
If you did try to go “Hostel” on a girl who kicked you there, YOU would be slapped in jail with barely a trial.
I think that this kind of thing in movies, TV shows and ads is part of a larger effort to injure, humiliate, and denigrate all men and boys, by male-hating feminists in Hollywood and Madison Avenue.
It seems a requirement these days that at least one male character in an ad, a sitcom, or a movie is slapped, beaten, cut, punched, or burned by a female character, often for little cause what-so-ever. And the show’s laugh track goes crazy as the man writhes in pain, while the woman triumphantly burns his clothing, tears up his most treasured old photos, or smashes his car.
The level of intense, blatant, irrational hostility against the male characters in much of TV and movies is such that I can simply no longer watch. Some of the writers, and possibly the directors or producers, must be psychologically ill. I know that a lot of their entertainment product is.
I agree, this is 100% wrong and people of both genders should speak out against it but I’m trying to remember a single Disney movie where male villains were kicked in the groin? Is this something ‘new’ that I’ve missed?
And WTF is with the ‘ball-tapping’? Is this some kind of male-bonding thing like hazing?
I’d appreciate it if our society would rid itself of ALL depictions (fantasy or reality) of sexual abuse but apparently some whack-jobs are really into that crap unfortunately and want their ‘freedom’ to enjoy it.
I don’t want men depicted as being kicked in the groin for laughs nor do I want depictions of women’s ‘asses ripped open’ in porn for which she can suffer anal fistulas, nerve damage or a rectocele (a crippling horror where her rectum bulges out of her vagina or worse, she defecates out of her vagina) as well as other dangers.
Don’t even get me started on circumcision which caused my husband to argue incessantly over the pros and cons (I against/he for it) until thankfully me daughter was born which took that off the table, thank goodness. :\
That last sentence should have read:
Don’t even get me started on circumcision which caused my husband and I to argue incessantly over the pros and cons (I against/he for it) until thankfully my daughter was born which took that off the table, thank goodness.
Why bold the MY on “my daughter” — not his too? Freudian slip?
Freud? lol! Oh c’mon now. I simply made ‘bold’ what I had edited in my post (and as English teacher correctly pointed out I made the common “person and I rather than person and me” goof).
Now, if only I had a dollar for every time my husband said “Your daughter” to me when he’s annoyed with her.
I think focusing on the “my daughter” part is totally missing the point that everything you said was excellent.
Actually, that last sentence should read, “Don’t even get me started on circumcision which caused my husband and me to argue. . .”
And WTF is with the ‘ball-tapping’?
Male gorillas roar and pound their chest in a fearsome display of silverback power and agressiveness. Schoolboys attempt to elevate their herd status by finding increasingly interesting and novel ways to smack the testicles of rivals. (Less mentally adept boys just go for brute force, which rarely impresses the herd females.) I’ll bet this is shared with other primate groups somewhere. Capuchins seem devious and clever enough.
Well, if U.S. sailors constitute a primitive group, the ball-tapping ritual is certainly shared with other primitive groups. The guys in my husband’s shop in at least two locations did it all the time. IMO, when guys do it to guys, it’s kind of one of those weird guy things. For some inexplicable (to females) reason, men (in general) find it funny to cause each other pain, even when they are the ones in pain. At least, that’s my understanding.
If I were asked to explain ball-tapping, I’d say it was probably more a male bonding ritual than a malicious act, and an attempt to see who is tougher. Similar to stupid dares.
Don’t even get me started on circumcision which caused my husband and I to argue incessantly over the pros and cons (I against/he for it)
How do you feel about tattoos and body piercings? Plastic surgery? Are your ears pierced? Circumcision has been done safely for thousands of years with no seeming lack of sexual function. At his bris, my son, my only son, whom I love, cried only as long as it took to make a blessing over the wine and put a wine soaked gauze in his mouth. His sisters complained more when they got their ears pierced.
Oh, well, if that is all he did, than the barbarism of the ritual is perfectly fine, eh?
Will you say that piercing ears, noses or navels is also barbaric? What about tattoos or scarification? Those are all fairly painful procedures.
In a traditional Jewish circ, the knife is razor sharp the actual cut is less painful than tattoo or piercing needles. Is there some pain? Yeah, the boy cries for a few seconds. I’ve been to a few brisses and I seen more babies crying longer over a dirty diaper or for being hungry than I have at a bris.
The difference is most people choose for themselves, someone else does not choose for them.
In a traditional Jewish circ, the knife is razor sharp the actual cut is less painful than tattoo or piercing needles. Is there some pain? Yeah, the boy cries for a few seconds. I’ve been to a few brisses and I seen more babies crying longer over a dirty diaper or for being hungry than I have at a bris.
Let’s see if you are disgusted with this:
Female circumcision should be alright if it is performed with a razor sharp knife. That should make the actual cut less painful than tattoo. Is there some pain? Yeah, the girl cries for a few seconds. I seen more babies crying longer over a dirty diaper or for being hungry.
Just use any excuse you have:
- But men like the look of circumcised vulva vs. women like the look of circumcised penis.
- Male circumcision is a cultural tradition/religious tradition vs. female circumcision is a cultural tradition/religious tradition.
- Boys should look like their circumcised fathers vs. girls should look like their circumcised mother.
And so on. If you think the excuse for FGM isn’t valid, then unless you have a double standard, the excuse for MGM isn’t valid either. If you have a double standard, then that answers the question posed by the title of this article: Does society encourage genital assault against men? Yes. Women are protected, men are open season. Probably you’d come up with the usual excuses for the double standard, from FGM is worse than MGM to the condescending women are sensitive and must be protected.
While it’s true that most forms of FGM are worse, but not all are. Cutting off the clitoral hood is no worse than male circumcision. Splitting open the clit hood is not worse than male circumcision since nothing is amputated. The fact is, all forms of FGM are illegal in all Western countries (and some non-Western, too). So, unless you have a double standard again, clit hood removal should be as legal as foreskin removal even if the worse types of FGM are banned, or both FGM or MGM should be illegal.
It’s 21st century already. All forms of genital surgeries should be banned unless there is a medical necessity. Cultural traditions change; religious traditions change. Why do people still abuse babies based on a tradition invented 2 milleniums ago?
If you have a problem with something so trivial then by all means don’t do it. But it is no less harmful than peircing ones ears.
One could say that it should be their choice and if they are of age I agree…but when they are too young to overly care.
And if it’s something as trivial as removing a peice of skin. One that is not needed to function then honestly it matters little.
It’s happened to me and ya know what?
I’m alive, sane, and nightmare free. No issues or problems. To call it barbaric is to mislabel it.
Comparing tattoos, piercings, etc to circumcision is like comparing apples to oranges. Getting a tattoo or a piercing is a conscious choice made by someone who likely has an idea of what is going to happen and likely what will be involved in the process. With infant circumcision, the child has no say or choice in the matter. The choice is made for him by his parents. I personally could care less if an adult male chose to get circumcised later on in life. It’s his body and his choice. I feel that the same should hold true for all male children. Leave their bodies alone! Let them make the decision late on in life.
“I’m trying to remember a single Disney movie where male villains were kicked in the groin?”
Delia, I do not know of a villain offhand, however the animated movie Shrek2 has a scene when the cat and Shrek first meet and this occurs.
Shrek is a Dreamworks picture, not Disney, though they did a great job of making fun of Disney.
Delia,
“Ball-tapping” involves the following:
A woman walks up to a man and says, for example, “How ya doing, hon?” and slaps the guy in the crotch, open-handed.
I understand it’s become a fairly common practice among couples married more than five years. Yuk, yuk.
In my husband’s navy shop, it actually involves one dude whacking another dude in the groin with a clipboard as they are passing in the hall. It’s a surprise attack, and most of the guys guard against it. It’s when they catch the unsuspecting one that the “humor” ensues. I’ve never heard of a girl doing it to a dude.
Heathen. Society.
the groin shot – who says humor isn’t understood across cultures and languages?
It has been obvious for a very long time that there is a sort of anti-male, or perhaps anti-masculine spirit at large in the popular culture. Maybe it should be called an antagonism toward male masculinity.
One need only listen to a conversation at a fashionable bar or turn on the TV to find examples. There’s nothing obscure or subtle about it.
The acceptability of ball kicking and penis cutting jokes are just the most offensive expression of this.
We are not angels. What we seem to have accomplished, as a society, is to replace the denigration of women with the denigration of men.
I have yet to see ANY social grouping of any size or permanence where somebody didn’t have to be the fall guy.
The awful thing about it is that many see the present circumstances as the fulfillment of the biblical forecast that the last shall be the first and such — as an expression of justice, a moral good.
Men, the thinking goes, used to be on top, now they’re on the bottom, and a good thing too.
In part, this is the outcome of the common habit of thinking in terms of groups rather than thinking in terms of individuals.
In part, it is probably part and parcel of social decadence — the loss of respect for a society’s men.
And in part, I am sure, it is just plain damn nastiness and stupidity, unrestrained by common decency and sense.
All right. Then, if there is any justice, then the women will be on the bottom once again. Because the punishment has gone far beyond the crime in my book.
Ball Tappers Beware!
This property is protected by wooden Ball Bats..
And one owner that will not hesitate to smash back..
Until nothing is left of your skull but goop and mush..
And you have to be fed with a slingshot for the rest of your life..!
My mom told me that being kicked in the balls is a pain worse than childbirth.
Though I’m not sure how she knew, I’m sure she was right.
I grew up with my father lost in WWII, but I had Dagwood, Fibber McGee, Chevy Chase, etc., as role models.
I learned that it was always OK to ridicule men, not for their power, but because women need to feel empowered.
‘Ball-tapping’ is promoted as comedy in America, not in Europe. Why? Our feminized culture, of course.
American culture has since Margaret Stanger been anti-male and anti-business.
Businessmen get denigrated in all media, unless it’s a fast-talkin’ dame in a pants suit. Notice I said ‘businessmen’?
The masculine form for collective pronouns got replaced by the “-person” crapola. The fact that that would be an impossibility in any latinate or roman language demonstrates the forced and unnatural nature of the change.
Living internationally for over four decades, I can claim some authority in saying that not many foreign men aspire to an American wife like they used to. Of course not. Not when they think it’s funny to kick you in the balls!
I have noticed this too, now that you mention it. It seems to happen overwhelmingly to white guys, usually young to middle-aged. I think it’s part of our culture’s effort to undermine them. They are now okay targets, exclusively depicted as home invaders in commercials for a home security system, and then depicted as weak in comedies and dramas.
Another thought: Men are no longer allowed to fight in a fair manner. Now women are boxers, wrestlers, karata black belts. Unfair fighting, like pulling hair, has been the domain of girl-fighting. So men being kicked in the groin is part of the attempt to feminize men (white men).
If I were a male teenager, I’d be wearing defensive armor down there, and carrying something else to make life very unpleasant for anyone who tried anything on me.
Would a .45 do?
Attempting to kick a man in the balls could get you killed. Competent martial arts instruction warns that this vulnerable area is the “most” instinctively protected. The image of the guy waiting, legs spread, for the kick and doubling over in pain is poetic license and total myth. Pure propaganda.
Almost as pathetic as the woman that recently claimed to be raped on a rooftop in Haiti. She proffers a new twist on the “lay back and think of England” response. Whining that her negro attacker dosen’t understand her compassion for negroes, she decides to “lay back and blame Whitey.”
No worthwhile women’s self defense instruction will endorse either response to a sexual attack. Much more pain can be inflicted, with less effort than kicking, by attacking the face using pinching, eye-gouging, biting or wielding any thing you can grab as a weapon. See Grace Kelley in “Dial M for Murder.”
Always fight to escape…never…ever…submit.
I have noticed that much of the “humor” in the media asks me to laugh at someone else’s pain. ‘taint NEVER funny.
Actually, denigration of men began when the first wife in history decided that their erotic congress would forever be conditioned on whether or not she was “in the mood”. Step one in the progressive castration, continuing over the ensuing years.
At least the women who joke about physical castration are honest about it. And men are afraid to talk about it lest they be deemed unenlightened or haters of women.
A good dose of Islam will cure this sort of behavior.
Dr. Helen,
I think male genital assault is only a symptom of a larger problem; the underlying pro-female v. anti-male bias which has grown in this country since the 1960′s.
Even on family shows (America’s Funniest Videos) we are supposed to laugh at men getting kicked in the groin. In commercials. men are very frequently shown as the unaware or stupid foil to the urbane and wise woman.
In one commercial in particular, a woman is showing her friend around their newly redone home and opens a door on her (overweight and sweaty) husband who is on a treadmill. Quickly closing the door, her comment is: “He’s still a work in progress.” As per your comment above, would any ad agency ever deign to show an overweight sweaty woman on a treadmill with the tagline “SHE is a work in progress?”
In the 1960′s(?) Gloria Steinem’s asserted that “a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle” and that attitude has gone viral in our society.
Now, I know for a fact that most women do not feel this way, but the narrative has been adopted by the ruling and advertising classes, and it is that attitude that now permeates and therefore shapes public discourse in this country. Think Tawana Brawley, the Duke rape case and John Edwards; men are inherently evil and opressive while women (even prostitutes) are innocent victims. Women NEVER lie about rape, or so the urban legend states. A man cheats on a woman and he is the cad, but the “other woman” is rarely mentioned. John Edwards is excoriated, but Rielle Hunter gets a book deal. Andrea Yates drowns her children in a bathtub and is (initially) defended by NOW because post-partum depression was to blame. The list goes on interminably.
I appreciate you taking the time to focus on this issue. When I was in the 6th grade, my lesbian feminist homeroom teacher explained to all of us that they, all the teachers of the 6th grade, had taken all the girls in the 6th grade and taught them various techniques for castrating us (they had, while we sat in the lunchroom and twiddled our thumbs waiting for them to finish indoctrinating the girls.) And after teaching them as many different ways to assault our genitals as possible, they had told the girls that they were to hurt us like this “any time you feel angry for any reason.” In other words, we didn’t even have to do anything. Our genitals were their outlet for any unhappiness they felt. When we tried to argue with the teacher that we would kick the girls and hurt them in the same place she replied, “no you won’t. It’s OK for them to hurt you there because you are boys and boys aren’t sensitive. Boys don’t have feelings. But girls ARE sensitive. And besides, girls have to have babies.”
I think that about sums it up. The predominant view in our feminist culture is that males aren’t really people. Thus we have no feelings. And any rape or castration of us is simply entertainment, like watching Wiley Coyote fall off a cliff. He’s not real, so of course he’s going to get back up and be fine. Feminism has reduced the entire male sex to living, breathing cartoons. Nothing done to us is considered sexual assault or torture, or even murder. Look at Mary Winkler. How much more blatantly guilty of cold-blooded murder does a woman have to be, and yet 9 or the 10 women on the jury openly stated their intention of letting her go before the trial had even begun or one shred of evidence presented?
If males aren’t considered human beings by our lawmakers and cultural leaders then all of this sexual abuse and violence against males is just their version of throwing Christians to the lions, like they did in Rome, where not coincidentally, castration was used as a punishment for virtually everything. It’s how sick people entertain themselves.
Where were the parents to come in and demand this woman’s firing?
“Where were the parents” is an excellent question, and one which could just as easily be asked today. Today’s parents are ENCOURAGING this behavior, teaching every girl in American do to this and then leaving the boys to fend for themselves. Where were the parents back when this was done to me and the other boys? They were busily ignoring it and doing nothing to stop it, very much like the parents of today.
I would never advise a woman to go for the crotch on an attacker. You might cause some pain, but then he’s going to be really angry.
It’s very simple: Eyeballs don’t grow back.
As my Sensei pointed out, that is overkill;
Why blind for life, when a simple slap across the eyes
will blind for five minutes, giving one time to escape ?
To prevent him from being able to rape the next, perhaps not so capable, woman.
Beowulf, should your screen name be Oedipus ?
Blinding a would-be rapist is a fine fantasy;
In real life, unless one can convince the Judge
that one’s life was in danger, it is likely to be
_seen_ as excessive force, and punished as such.
Nonsense. Any woman being assaulted/raped can later, very persuasively, make the argument that she feared she would or could be killed by her attacker (regardless of what he may have said at the time). In that case, she has every right to defend herself, including blinding or killing her attacker.
There is one other angle to examine these jokes, a flip side, if you will. I’ll illustrate it by relating a work experience I had.
I was working in an office for a male boss. (For the record, I am a male myself.) He had an unpleasant experience with a woman on the phone. After he hung up the phone, he said that she had “penis envy” and that maybe he should buy her “a strap-on set of balls.”
That was neither the first nor the last time I heard such comments. I do not know how common they are. I found them not so much offensive as gross and disgusting, but I may be in a minority.
In any event, while I am by no means a social conservative, I am also not a group identity advocate. As way of disclaimer, I am a lawyer with an undergrad degree in national security policy, am a security conservative and thus generally a Republican. But if this particular incident is indicative of larger behavior, then it may be interpreted as a pattern of men (not all, but enough of a number to become a stereotype for entertainment purposes) expressly using their genitals as illustrative of superiority over women in a way that women (at least to be best of my knowledge) do not use their breasts as such over men.
And if that is indeed the case, it invites a ridicule (though not physical attack) on those symbols of “superiority.” Not saying it’s right, but it is human nature. If men are uncomfortable with such jokes and ridicule concerning genitals, then perhaps those genitals shouldn’t be used as symbols of superiority.
When I (a female) was in grad school, one of my professors used the phrase “balls to the wall,” meaning that we grad students would have to make an all-out effort, to refer to a group of two or three men plus me. I took no offense, nor did I see it as some kind of sexual harassment or prejudice against women. As soon as the words were out of the professor’s mouth, though, you could see that it had just occurred to him that this might not be an acceptable phrase for mixed company since not all of us had balls to put to the wall.
I can think of few praises I’d like better than being told I have a big brassy pair. It’s a metaphor for one of the best virtues of humankind. It’s not the fault of us moderns that this virtue was traditionally a male one in the past. I don’t think we should avoid this kind of speech any more than we should eschew wearing knit clothing because more women knit than men.
Actually the expression comes from the world of military aviation. In many planes, control sticks are topped with a ball-shaped grip. One such control is the throttle—to get maximum power you push it all the way forward, to the front of the cockpit, or firewall (so-called because it prevents an engine fire from reaching the rest of the plane). Another control is the joystick—pushing it forward sends a plane into a dive. So, literally pushing the balls to the (fire)wall would put a plane into a maximum-speed dive, and figuratively going balls to the wall is doing something all-out, with maximum effort. The phrase is essentially the aeronautical equivalent of the automotive “pedal to the metal.”
I dodn’t know that. Thanks.
Likewise, “cold enough to freeze the balls off of a brass monkey” is a nautical term. A brass monkey was a brass frame that held cannonballs on a ship. Cannonballs were iron. When it got cold, the brass contracted more than the iron and the cannonballs would fall off of the brass rack.
I had understood “balls to the walls”, had to do with steam engines that had mechanical regulators that consisted of a pair of hinged lever arms with a ball on the end of each arm, as the engine sped up the centrifugal force caused the arms to raise up closing a valve. If you adjusted the regulator so that the arms go to horizontal (with the balls pointing to the wall) without closing the valve you are not limiting the speed of the engine. But also per a web search the use for the term in WWII aircraft was also used. But I am guessing the term probably originated with steam engines.
Thank you! I have noticed this for a long time, the violation of the male crotch, as humor or deserved punishment. I think it’s a feminist fantasy thing. Also male guilt.
Thing is you never see it done to women in action movies. A female hero gets in fight with male villain, whack, boot to the groin. Same female gets in a fight with a female villian never a boot to the crotch. It is done on purpose.
It’s also used as implied. Last night the series Justified came on, I have not followed the series. So I decided to watch. Opening scene is in a hardware store the bad guy started ordering stuff. A women grabs a shotgun, cocks it, and points it at him. He says to not point it at him. She lowers the barrel at his crotch instead.
The only movie I have ever seen a women kicked in the crotch is The MacKintosh Man, it was Paul Newman. (1973). She went down like a ton of bricks, just as any man would. So why doesn’t the female heroes who kick men not kick women?
When I was a kid, we just called it fighting. I tried to kick my opponent in the balls, and he tried to kick me in the balls, and neither of us were very successful — rexrs is right about it not being as easy as folk think.
I suspect that it’s more a matter of the fact that nobody knows how to fight much anymore. We are all so afraid of a teensy bit of aggression that any time Johnny gets in a scuffle, it’s the end of the world. So, now we have all these young adults who *only* know cinematic violence, and a groin kick is cinematic. If these people had actually grown up having been in a fight or two, they would not fall back on stupid cliches. The castration of males didn’t occur in the movies; it occurred when parents were so afraid of a little male aggression that they feminized their boys.
So, now you only seem to have two kinds of men outside of the military. Some who know nothing about dealing with aggression and those who know nothing else. So, there’s no such thing as just duking it out anymore — either you play like girls or you shoot each other. We’ve lost the middle, and the movies reflect the fact that the folk who make them have no concept of healthy aggression.
Brothers and Sisters, I quote from the book of Deuteronomy, the 15th chapter, beginning with the 11th verse.
If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity.
This important issue was addressed in antiquity. Thank you very much.
The Left is vile.
Oops, that’s the 25th chapter.
In this twisted world, men are sexually assaulted (“ball tapping”), depicted as buffoons in commercials, sitcoms and the ones who abuse women. Women are innocent victims and men should be punished. Granted anyone, male or female guilty of abuse should be held responsible. But more often than not the abuser has been abused or experienced some trauma, Post Traumatic Syndrome. But more often than not on TV the abuser is not treated as someone who at some point was a victim, but somehow for no explained reason they say by implying it, “suddenly decides to abuse”. The abused is always female and the abuser is always male. They never discuss why the male becomes an abuser. This is just another way to imply that men are by nature evil and women are “kind innocent nurturing and unselfish”. Of course these discussions are always done on shows hosted by a woman.
Well, I have a family of boys and they laugh like crazy at the antics of the Jacka** crowd. My daughter and I sit without laughing at all while our menfolk fall off the couch in tears of laughter. Then there’s America’s Funniest Home Videos, where small children are always hitting Dad in the crotch while trying to smack at a pinata. I seldom laugh but the boys roar. (AFV is equal opportunity and women are seen going through embarrassing pratfalls as often as men.) Don’t even get me started on the Three Stooges. What is funny about grown men hitting each other on the head?
My conclusion is that men think crotch hitting and physical humor is hilarious in films and that’s why it’s there. It’s not for women to satisfy their desire to hurt men, it’s for men. Men need to laugh and pratfalls tickle their funny bone.
We women laugh at different kinds of humor. Why should we women demand that men laugh at the same things we like? My husband loves The Three Stooges. You want to take the Three Stooges away from him? You gotta go through me first.
I’d also like to submit the “Ow, My Balls!” sequence in Idiocracy. Of the males I know who love that movie, almost all of them find that entire shtick completely hilarious. Additionally, even in the movie the people who spend most of the time laughing at it are not women, but men. Personally, ball trauma of any kind reminds me a little too much of my experiences getting bruised on the pubic bone from riding a boy’s bike when I was a kid – excruciatingly painful even without a pair of gonads in the way to bear the brunt of the damage. I don’t like to see it happen.
In my experience, generally speaking, males, both men and boys, find this sort of “humor” far more amusing than women. Some people just like to see others doubled up in eye-rolling pain. That there is an increasing market for it may indicate a more general coarsening of our culture’s tastes in entertainment. Certainly feminism may have a part in that, but I suspect there’s a lot more to the underlying cause than feminist castration fantasies.
Remember that happy little song that NPR used to play? “Thanks to Lorena Bobbitt we’ve found a way to give men what they’re due. Act like a chauvinist pig and you’ll be snipped like a Bobbitt in two.”
So true. I hate seeing it on TV and in movies – it makes me not like the entire movie (which is my fault for not being able to get past it, I know). It’s really, really offensive and if the roles were reversed, there’d be hell to pay.
Anyone watching this year’s Mens Basketball Tourney closely saw an amazing increase in disqualifications of players due to intentional assaults on opponents’ groin areas.
Relatedly, the topic of sexual assaults against male prisoners has gone from wild over the top transgressiveness to matter-of-fact acceptance. A prison sentence is understood to carry a high likelihood of sexual victimization. Ho-hum. Nothing to see here, folks. Move along.
While I am not arguing against the underlying advocacy of violence against men discussed here, I do feel that physical comedy is not anything new. I would also suggest that the reason why there appears to be an increase of its occurrence is that there is much more programming for it to be depicted, as well as additional media. Sure there is more, but is it really in relation to how much more programming there has been ten years ago? Twenty?
Helen,
I was at my daughter’s 2-year medical appointment a few weeks ago and saw the following:
A professionally dressed black woman with a 3-4 year old son who was running around in the office waiting room.
She grabbed him, held him close and told him to be quiet. He was. I thought she had estasblished good disipline for him to so rapidly obey.
What I did not see, but my wife did and told me later, was that the mother had reached behind and under the boy and palmed her son’s penis and scrotum.
She was crushing them in her grip as corporal punishment to get him to comply.
That is one boy that will have relationship problems with women when he grows up, whether he has a father or not.
I suspect that the professional dangers of acedemic political correctness regards who is engaging in this kind of behavior is why it is being under reported.
If a man did this to his daughter, even touching her and not inflicting pain, he would be arrested for sexual assult. This woman should have been reported to child protective services….not that they would have done anything about it since she is a woman and the child was a boy.
In my opinion, this young boy suffered a public sexual assault! No parent has the right to inflict pain on the crotch of their child as punishment! Oh! My bad. It was the mother who did this. We all know that no woman could ever commit a sexual assault! Only men are capable of such acts.
Your wife didn’t have a cell phone to report that woman to the police? There was an assault in progress.
The Right is vile. Gee, that’s constructive.
“EscapeVelocity:
The Left is vile.”
As Friday said (in Heinlein’s novel, Friday), “Unless you plan on killing him soon, never kick a man in the balls, even symbolically. Maybe especially symbolically.”
A someone who ended up childless partially as a result of a knee to the groin at age 12, I have a special aversion to such depictions.
Watch the audience in Miss Congeniality when the man is kicked in the groin. Funny!
OTOH
I worked as a professional with a federal agency at the time of the Bobbitt incident. Some of the women in the office were really yukking it up and having a grand old time laughing about it. I decided to have some fun and went to the manager’s office. The manager was a “good, by the book, federal manager.” I told him I was offended and threatened by the spectacle of a group of employees finding humor in genital mutilation and that I hardly thought he would find it funny if I went around the office espousing a belief in forced mastectomies. It was hilarious to watch him turn most of the colors of the rainbow when I told him I would report the incident to all his superiors unless he immediately put out an office bulletin to cease all discussion of the Bobbitt incident. He did so.
That having been said, I have noted for years that one of the best ways to get a laugh in a play or a movie is to have some man kicked or punched in the testicles.
Male stupidity encourages genital assault on men.
The current societal definition of manhood needs a revision.
“Damage” is an inaccurate term, as it conveys acute trauma. Ball tagging is painful, but does not cause lesions.
It is funny, when it happens to someone else. Boys laugh at it because it’s funny. Girls laugh only because the boys are laughing; they don’t really get the joke. The bad guy gets hurt and humiliated in the film because he’s the bad guy, the ball tagging is supposed to make him less sympathetic.
Yes, it’s not funny when it’s humiliating or abusive. That goes without saying, because it applies to almost every form of humor. Guys in drag, diarrhea, acid to the face, lethal electrocution – the humor is in the context and delivery.
Lesions would be an improvement. Smashing testicles often leads to them being surgically removed because of the unhealable damage.
Clearly you didn’t read the news stories related to this ‘ball tapping’ which helped inspire this article in the first place. Many of the boys are being hospitalized. Some are losing testicles. The term “ball tapping” is grossly misleading.
Note of caution about the humor aspect. Sometimes we find things funny precisely because they are things that make us anxious, not because we secretly advocate that people be hurt for real.
Dr. Helen, surely we can trust people to consume fiction/movies without suggesting that their enjoyment reflects some insidious ulterior motive? I mean, reality check: staged gags are not the same as the real thing.
Surely you wouldn’t advocate we tellytubby all of our entertainment?
If otoh playground “ball tapping” is in fact on the rise (and not just being reported more thoroughly/carefully by authorities and/or kids who are taught by schools to report bullying) I’d suspect more along what billo suggests: what we’re seeing the behavior of boys who know their victims aren’t going to fight back. We’re seeing kids who have already had their balls removed, figuratively speaking, before we threw them back out on the playground to mix with the other boys.
We don’t need to fabricate a cadre of women mocking the idea of male castration to see the problem that poses.
Researchers found that roughly 50 percent of the testicle assaults, or “ball tapping”, were committed by girls. The majority committed by boys were older, larger boys whom the victims could not easily defend themselves against even if they had fought “fair” in the first place. And regardless of who did it, teachers and other authority figures have done virtually nothing about it. Nothing is being done to stop it. Quite the contrary, it is encouraged by every TV show and movie that portrays it as harmless comedy.
When I was in Middle School, way back when, all the “cool” girls found it so hysterical to go around and kick unsuspecting guys in the nads. I guess that got extra points for how long they could get a guy to walk around hunched over or better yet fall to their knees. It became such a problem that the school principle had to issue a statement to discourage the behavior over the P.A. one time.
Although I do have to admit I laughed at that part in Ron Burgandy when he threatened to punch Veronica in the Ovaries, “Right in the baby maker”. Although I laugh at the silliness and the choice of words not at the actual act.
“Ball Tapping?”
We didn’t call it “Ball Tapping” back in my elementary school days (early- and mid-1980s).
We called it “Pecker Tag,” and every male in class dreaded being “IT.”
It’s more than just making violence against men humorous, it’s the general depiction of men as clumsy, foolish, overweight, and useless.
Look at any ad featuring a male and female: The male is always awkward (drives in desert pulling his boat, or the pudgy guy with his European purse)
Mockery of males especially white and Asian is acceptable.
If you go look at “America’s Funniest Videos” and count the number of slip-and-fall clips, you will find that this is most of the show. Some people think the look of surprised hurt on someone’s face plus an awkward position, is funny. They also think that these scenes where a guy gets hurt “where he lives” are also funny. It’s not my taste in comedy.
Valerie,
I occasionally have AFV on for mindless diversion. Whether they are groin hits or not, I find very few of their videos actually funny. I can understand laughing at a staged pratfall, after all, it’s staged to look that way. I can not, for the life of me distinguish what is supposed to be funny about another person’s pain or embarrassment.
Wake up, America. Wear a cup.
It will change your life.
Invest in a good one.
You’ll never regret it.
The Male, specifically the White Male, although not just; specifically the, not Christian, but culturally aware, and therefore not hostile toward Christianity, White Male; is the only group that can save America. Every other group is mired in collectivist socialist mantra. Every other group just wants its entitlements. Every other group is bogged down in grievance mongering and identity politics.
The White Male is the only group that will stand up and fight the system that is currently encroaching. The communist elites know this, and so they constantly attack and seek to destroy the White Male with feminism, victim identity politics, the race card, and all sorts of other Marxoid tactics which I’m sure the readers are are more than familiar with.
Moe, Larry and Curly never did it. As a matter of fact none of the stooges did.
Back then it would never have been allowed, even if anyone had the bad taste to attempt to get it past the censors. Today, the FCC and film ratings commission says a curse word or bare bodypart is obscene or indecent, but extreme violence against male genitalia, even castration, is harmless entertainment. 60 Minutes once showed a clip from South Africa in which 2 males were stripped naked and tied to a pole before a mob of women whipped their genitals while they screamed in sexual agony. Their sexual torture and genitals were not blurred and you could see everything. The FCC saw nothing wrong with it even though it was shown in prime viewing hours. It was even rerun the following summer. Had the victims been female it would have been declared obscene and disallowed.
“I often see shows where a man is kicked in the groin and this is often depicted as funny or ‘no big deal.’ Imagine the uproar if a women [sic] were punched in the breast on a television show. It is unthinkable.”
That’s because sexual violence is considered wrong in our society. Sexual violence against men is, apparently, not.
It’s not complicated.
At some point in time in American culture, it became fashionable to allow humor at the expense of those perceived in power-whites and men, namely. Between the glorification of men getting hit in the junk, and media portrayals of men being worthless, useless, dumb co-pilots in marriage, is it no wonder that young men have responded as they have?
I teach and used to coach in a public school, and it has astonished me to see how the young men are desperately looking for people who treat them with respect and yet want someone to set limits for them. At my school, we are fortunate to have multiple men who are positive role models for these young men, and are strong, confident, yet willing to listen to common insecurities and vulnerabilities.
Many of the female teachers will complain that they cannot get their male students motivated, nor interested in the curriculum (often English). Then they pause, and laugh because the literature they are teaching is almost exclusively geared towards women being mistreated by men or women’s independence. Suffice it to say, the guys ‘get it’ on some level whether conscious or otherwise, and along with the tsunami of negative cultural messages are not buying in—shocking.
In a ‘ball tapping’ related note, a varsity baseball coach at another high school in the district was fired for giving ‘cup checks’ to all of his players before a game, and the parents threatened to litigate unless he was fired. He was in fact fired, which sent a pretty strong message to coaches, that this method of checking for cups is humiliating to some, and no longer acceptable.
and what those female english teachers seem to always choose for books and questions are; how does the character feel? and making everything a “sensitivity” issue. things that are *very* feminist in nature. It’s the feminization of public school in ways that discriminate against boys. for my sons, english class was shear torture.
Even my daughters complained, especially my classics major daughter. she far prefered her male prof’s to most of her female prof’s. She also prefered the writings of long dead white males (whose writing have withstood the test of time) to what passes for modern ‘literature’ (but is really promoted only because the writer wasn’t a white male) even in our nationally recognized public school system.
there is a reason public schooled boys do poorly in english, and more girls go on to college than boys. There is no performance discrepancy among homeschooled children.
That’s not even getting into little boys need to move around, and schools complain wanting them to sit still for internminable amounts of time.
I don’t understand how questions like “how does a a character feel?” Is a feminist issue, children should be taught to wonder how a character feels becuase it help them learn about good story writing and help them learn empathy, many men would be insulted that you consider this a ‘female’ thing that should not be taught to boys.
Which is weird because a light whack with a fist or hand will make them double over in pain and get a bit nauseous; getting hit there with a baseball at 50 mph carries the very serious risk of having to amputate one or both testicles.
Bonnie said this above:
“My conclusion is that men think crotch hitting and physical humor is hilarious in films and that’s why it’s there. It’s not for women to satisfy their desire to hurt men, it’s for men. Men need to laugh and pratfalls tickle their funny bone.”
I think that’s about right.
Actually, THAT is one of the main issues here, and we haven’t been addressing it:
It is most often MEN who are laughing (or groaning!) the hardest when one of these scenes are shown. Not that women don’t find them “funny”, but for the most part I don’t find them “relating” to it quite as much and therefore not laughing as much, and sometimes they actually fell sympathetic…
While women wouldn’t find it that funny to see similar pain inflicted on other women, they also wouldn’t find it amusing to see MEN laughing at such depictions.
The fact that MEN laugh just as much if not more, when it happens to men, and we have NO OBJECTIONS if women laugh at it…would seem that there is no chance of this changing soon.
I.E., we males are basically just immature adolescents when it comes to this.
I will do a public service here and remind you all that kicking or kneeing a man in the groin is considered use of deadly force, as it has the ability to cause serious and permanent bodily injury, as opposed to less serious forms of assault.
If you need to resort to that level of violence, well, more power to you, but otherwise you might well be starting something more serious than you realize. Someone tries doing it to me at work, at a minimum they’re getting OC sprayed, if not shot outright.
In the late 1960s, when I was in high school, we called it “racking” someone. Since fighting was more tolerated then, you did it at great peril as you might receive a fist up side the head in return.
See Spot Run, a Warner Bros movie, had a running gag (pun intended) of Paul Sorvino being bit in the balls by a dog.
In general, the entertainment industry considers men being hit as funny. Of course, part of the humor is the absurdity of a petit female physically damaging a male twice her size and strength. The lure of this humor is the denigration of men and the propping up of the increasingly fragile feminist ego.
I had a female friend tell me once that she was disgusted with all the violence against women in movies, etc. I told her to take another look, there is still some outrage in this society when a woman is assaulted but not men. When a man “falls” in a movie, other than the protagonist, they are in the background and ignored… as unimportant. So she took another look and told me that she was still disgusted with all the violence against women in the movies. LOL
I, a woman, wanted to send a humorous card to my homesick daughter to cheer her up. the store I stopped at to purchase said card had only two types of “humorous” cards. Male bashing, or sexually explicit. neither type were humorous to me, and certainly not appropriate. I reported my objections to the male clerk, who was more than happy to bring over the male manager so I could lodge a formal complaint with the store’s owners over their female buyers ultra-limited choices. They could not express concerns, as they were “just male employees” and their opinions were ignored by the owners. They were also more than helpful in suggesting a nearby store where I could find a much more appropriate card.
Thanks for taking the time. That was the most effective thing you could have done.
It looks like boys do this ball-tapping thing off school grounds as well and post it on youtube:
Deathrow Thursday- Pool Ball Breaker
Sack Tap Circle (Some weird game made out of it).
Bark Balls (this kid racks HIMSELF against a tree)!
Navy Sack Tap (Grown men doing it).
I imagine this technique can be a bullying tactic too but I can’t help but see from the numerous youtube vids posted that some boys really find this amusing entertainment and perhaps that’s why many of them don’t report the incident when it happens at school because they are just as culpable themselves (or don’t want to be called a ‘snitch’ when they’ve also done it to other boys before).
‘Hazing’ has been around long before “Women’s Lib” and that’s been outlawed for the most part now (I think?). Maybe there should be more awareness in schools and at home about the real damage that boys can do to each other with this sort of goofy ‘horse-play’? Drugging boys to control their aggression is certainly not the answer and there have always been bullies but there used to be a time when boys who misbehaved or hurt/assaulted other children were suspended from school. Is this about losing students and teach pensions? If girls were doing this to each other I’d pull my daughter OUT and tell the school to shove it.
Ask Dr. Helen: Does (Our) Society Encourage Genital Assault Against Men?
_______________by allowing its depiction in movie, TV, and cartoon violence.
Why do we find comedy regarding men being struck in the groin acceptable?
Wow. One could write a book on the subject; It would take at least one chapter
to distinguish amongst the questions asked, and the hidden assumptions in them.
Kevin asked why nothing was ever done to protest or condemn this abuse.
Answer: Because, except for a few unfortunate children with hyperactive
imaginations who cannot distinguish between fantasy and reality,
or between themselves and a character on screen, no abuse occurs.
Dr. Helen says:
H: Imagine the uproar if a women were punched in the breast on a television show.
On the television show ‘Alias’ the heroine was a spy, as were her parents.
Her good father had her evil mother secretly surgically implanted with a tracking
device…in her breast; When the evil mother discovered this, she had her evil
assistant disable the device with a handy pair of defibrillation paddles;
You may imagine the visual for yourselves.
Painful ? Certainly. Abuse ? No. Amusing ? Well, perhaps tittilating is the word.
The real world example of Ball tapping, or Swirling, its female equivalent,
is abuse, and not funny in any way; It is also a relatively recent arrival
in certain degenerating societies within the US.
The real world example of Bobbitt, the Adulterer(?) is extreme in our society;
Elsewhere, a woman wronged in that way who ‘feeds him to the ducks’ is common.
Regarding Dr. Helen’s topic. An egregious example of this is in the movie Jerry Maguire when the title character breaks up with his girlfriend. When she realizes she’s being dumped, she first sucker punches him in the jaw and then knees him in the groin. The movie is a comedy and we’re supposed to laugh at the scene, but can anyone imagine the scene being considered comedic if the gender roles were reversed?
Violence against men has been comedic since comic strips and rolling pins. The henpecked husband was also a comedic staple, until the feminists complained that it made women look like harridans. A couple of years ago when a Super Bowl beer ad portrayed a woman screaming at her husband, there were complaints and the ad never ran again. Ralph Kramden’s progeny, though, have proliferated, since that stereotype of men portrays women as superior and clever. I’m not knocking Jackie Gleason, because the Honeymooners comes from an era of comedy that was equally critical of women and men. Now, screwball comediennes are politically incorrect. No wonder Victoria Jackson’s a political conservative.
Today there’s nothing close to equal opportunity offense. Women are never to be portrayed as anything other than noble role models (or sympathetic victims). If women are violent against men it’s either supposed to be funny or righteously vengeful. Violence against women is never portrayed as funny by the entertainment industry. Sometimes, rarely, a female villain will be on the receiving end of violence, and even in those rare cases, filmmakers will use that for shock value.
Frankly, I don’t have a problem with villains getting one in the ‘nads. I dare you not to laugh at the scene in The Longest Yard where Burt Reynolds’ character drills one of the guards right in the nuts with a football pass. Part of the humor may be nervous laughter, guys always get nervous when the subject of damage to testicles comes up. Of course that reflects men’s intimate knowledge of that unique male vulnerability.
Every male knows what it’s like to get hit in the nuts. Either through violence or just normal activity like riding a bike, sooner or later, before he’s a man, every boy knows how painful it is to even take a glancing blow, let alone a direct hit. I remember playing goalie in gym hockey without a cup and laying their on the floor gasping for breath. My son was about four when he was fooling around, did the splits, and when his crotch hit the floor, he got the most surprised look on his face.
And yes, I know that it hurts to have an ovary hit. The vast majority of times that is likely to happen, though, the woman is involved in consensual sex and he gets the angle wrong. I’m pretty sure that most women get through life without ever taking a shot to her ovaries. Getting hit in the nuts, on the other hand, is a universal male experience, more universal than chin scars.
It might not be nice, but humans tend to laugh at the weak and the vulnerable. In the case of testicles, it’s a vulnerability even the fiercest man has. Look at how prize fighting prohibits low blows. Even the fact that there exists such a phrase as “low blow” shows the special place society has for striking a man in the testicles.
If I may comment that perhaps this superficial fictional and hammy ‘violence’ against men has a lot less to do with a female run society or an anti male society but more to do with women who allegedly (allegedly being key) resent their histories and men who are aware of this and then use it to sell shoes, shampoo, dogfood and jokes. Read: Furthering their careers by any and all means necessary.
You’ll find that most of the sitcom writers for the shows that you’re referencing are written by men. Ever done a fact check to find out the percentage of male to female copyrighters and art directors? There’s a pretty slim selection of females and none of them are likely to embroil themselves in anything as crude as pointing out their femaleness.
The jokes tend to be for men more than they are for women and could easily be attributed to male conquer male behavior. Men like to use women in their gags as the purveyers of violence against men because a. it’s safe and b. it’s probably fun.
Most boys being kicked in the balls in the sand pit are being kicked by other boys.
Women might snigger ,alongside their male counterparts, over the comical double up of an actor temporarily castrated here and there but if any women derive any true delight beyond the painfully crass comedy movement it’s the sort that the punier little brother gets if he finally, after years of feeling a little less important than his older brother, soaks him unsuspectingly with a water bottle.
In fiction and in the playground, it’s not the women doing, it’s the men/boys. Men write the gags and the male and the female actor perform the gags. Please don’t cross over fiction with reality too much. Otherwise Quentin Tarantino, Oliver Stone, Stanley Kubrick are coming to a reality near you.
ps: I’ve seen young girls laugh but I could theorize dodgy fathers at home, a society that oppresses them in pink, an expectation on them to be pretty and cute….blah dee blah…Whatever the case, it’s the boys more often doing the violence.
Caroline,
I’m sure that you are correct; that most sitcom writers and ad agency execs are men. These men, however, are writing predominantly for women because they control the majority of the nation’s household wealth.
Perhaps this is some beta-male’s idea of what women find funny, but no man I know, straight or gay, thinks a groin shot is a laughing matter. And in truth, most women I know don’t think so either. Again, as I said above (see #16). This idea has been accepted by those in control of our entertainment/communication and, having gone viral, has become an apparent part of our national discourse.
The fact that our entertainment/communication media is controlled overwhelmingly (not exclusively) by liberals, makes me wonder if the same kind of beta-male self-loathing is in play here as is often cited to be part of the liberal foundation of black-white relations.
Incredible. Zero responsibility. I’ll bet you get along real well with men? And you actually equate being squirt with a water bottle with the images that hurt men’s heart, including the posters here and the writer of the original letter. As a woman you and I owe men a little more than zero responsibility. If we had the same parts we MIGHT cross over to horseplay, but even I can’t see myself ever doing that. I think your entire comment was disprespectful and a reason men hate the no action/no responsibility women. Take some kind of stand besides that. As other posters have said, it’s extremely simple concept. Men struck there in the movies are done so to appear to be “the right thing” (think Eva Mendes in Hitch), at least as often as it’s a ‘comedy’ (not) act. It’s actually so common that it’s pathetic, but certainly not funny. The commonness in everything I watch leans toward who cares? That’s a bad place for us to be as women. Lastly, just put the shoe on the other foot and imagine a media full of breast and face carving ‘jokes’ with men saying chill out, how often do breasts and faces really get cut into?
But I can guarantee such female bashing would lead to a few breasts and faces being injured. It’s simply a fact of the power of images. Then more outrage and counter-outrage at the outrage. Ok, we won many battles as women. Can we please start honoring men again? They’re not going to simply all ‘behave’ with no good women strive for or inspire them, or because they’re constantly threatened (intentionally I might add) with penis cutting if they cheat, by women making the joke routinely. Awful plan and horrible world this creates.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSVCOU1cw4k&feature=player_embedded
People who fancy themselves, existentialists, philosophors, geniuses, seers, Science Fiction Writers(L.Ron,)are generally atheists, who hate humanity. Your IQ makes you Devine.
H.G. Wells called himself a Liberal Fascist, before the word became a slur for Christian Republicans.
Jacques Cousteau, hated humanity, so did Saint Maggot Sanger, Karl Marx, Jo Stalin, Mao and Karl Marx.
Leftism is Feminine. Yin. The right side of the Tao, is Yang. Yin has a permanant restraining order on Yang, and He won’t be back any too soon.
Oh, and THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS FAIRNESS! IT’S CALLED KARMA. EVERYTHING COMES OUT IN THE WASH. YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW. WHAT GOES AROUND, COMES AROUND.
YOUR GROUP/HERD/SWARM HAS NO MORE VALUE THAN MINE! Well, yes, it has devolved to that.
Check the vid clip I provided. See if you don’t think the Eloy are early Hippies. Zombies…Unisexuals, Gender Benders..
I’m pretty sure that Wells FELT that the Morlocks were ADULTS.
I mentioned Karl Marx, twice. LOL…Caffein…
Gives me a chance to add to my thoughts, though. Not only does the Left LOVE kicking Dad in the groin…All Things Fecal, are forever in our faces, from you Leftiloons.
I tried to watch the Larry The Cable Guy’s roast on Comedy Central. It sounded like a bunch of 13 year old boys sitting around, trying to outdo each other.
There is a new person(sic) on the comedy circuit…Lisa Lamprey, or Lampley, or something…OMG, is she revolting!
I remember a show I watched once where a person tried to kick another person in the balls and they turned out to be a woman, so the character remarked that “it doesn’t work!” (not being a woman, I have no idea if this is accurate) Maybe the humor comes not from the denigration of males or the boosting of women, but the simple fact that it’s a very sensitive spot that men don’t think women have and it hurts like hell. All slapstick comedy comes from physical pain, it’s no wonder they do so many groin shots. I don’t think it has any political or social implications.
And for the record, I’m pretty sure the Three Stooges never did groin shots because it was still against the Hays code. I have no idea if this is true, but my gym teacher told me the first depiction of a groin shot on television was in the movies “Home Alone”
My initial comment is “paaaleaaaaaaaaase get a life”. What is happening to so-called men who worry about the BS silliness of cartoons or movies depicting villains getting whacked in the balls.
Geeze, it’s no wonder testing shows today’s men suffering from a decrease in testosterone compared to their forbears. We’re raising a generation of girly-men. Man-Up damnit. Sometimes the bad guy needs a good kick in the groin to get his attention.
I find this all so NOT interesting. Great subject for intellectualizing nonsense.
jgreene, you’re the proud new recipient of my most recent online “stfu.”
The original source of the discussion is from a news story about an epidemic of sexual violence against boys in Indiana schools, many of whom have been hospitalized as a result of this abuse. And still, even with the news reports, authorities have done nothing to stop it and the entertainment industry continues to encourage it.
If it were harmless, gags in film depicting violent rape as humorous would be common, too.
I certainly agree, Steve. It’s as plain as a sunrise. Which makes me wonder why the hard fight to keep things going as they are (media depictions/brush offs of a terribly disrespectful and painful event for males). Simply stop. Whats the hard in returning respect and reducing incidents of “slipping” disrespectful comments derived from immersion in all this? I will often hear a friend say they watch a ton of movies… They’re usually the struggling friends and prone to a lot of problems. They have views of the world that they try to show are middle of the road, but they lack so much understanding of right and wrong they’re really live on the edge of nowhere.
I’ve been concerned about this for some time. In studying it, you know what I found? In stories and movies written by women, male genital attacks are virtually unknown. It’s male writers and directors who seem to think this is “funny”.
Which is interesting because the only people I know personally who revel and dwell on male genital humiliation/mutilation are male homosexuals.
Or is it politically incorrect to point that out?
I think feminism has cleared the way for attacks on men, but the major attacks, particularly the humiliating genital ones are being implemented by males.
K and all others who seem to think women are having a lark emasculating men,
I don’t think it has much to do with feminism.
Men have always enjoyed humiliating other men. History is full of ruthless victories and humiliating defeats. Torture tends to have existed in the hands of men and torture is all about watching another man’s pain and degradation: Ie: His psychological humiliation.
Aiming direct for another man’s balls to inflict pain = A sort of sexual and psychological superiority for male viewers who witness the failure of farcical man (bigging the viewers up on the scale). And certainly the writers, who are over 90% male are enjoying the idea.
Most women’s thoughts don’t even go there. Surprise surprise, women, even women with modern outspoken feminist tendencies, still really like you guys and would rather none of you came to any harm.
Important to point out since the witch burnings were born out of a fear that pretty red heads were sitting plotting the demise of men everywhere.
Actually the witch burnings were mostly started by jealous women denouncing other women as ‘witches’. It was a female competition thing, not a male fear thing.
K and all others who seem to think women are having a lark emasculating men,
I don’t think it has much to do with feminism.
Men have always enjoyed humiliating other men. History is full of ruthless victories and humiliating defeats. Torture tends to have existed in the hands of men and torture is all about watching another man’s pain and degradation: Ie: His psychological humiliation.
Aiming direct for another man’s balls to inflict pain = A sort of sexual and psychological superiority for male viewers who witness the failure of farcical man (bigging the viewers up on the scale). And certainly the writers, who are over 90% male are enjoying the idea.
Most women’s thoughts don’t even go there. Surprise surprise, women, even women with modern outspoken feminist tendencies, still really like you guys and would rather none of you came to any harm.
Important to point out since the witch burnings were born out of a fear that pretty red heads were sitting plotting the demise of men everywhere.
not taking off my shirt and I refuse to kick a man in the balls for pretend, because my character would not do that.
Most recent incredulous kick I saw was the red-head in The Criminalist haul off and kick a man in the nuts with full force and a wrinkled face to “help” her ‘weak, unknowledgeable’ male partners struggling with an arrest. Then she acts like a sweet, shy-to-love female a few scenes later. Out of character for a professional and a decent woman the male watchers can admire. So the show was almost perfect then we’ve got this one character my husband wants to throttle now.
As someone who kicked and got kicked in the groin, it hurts like a mo’fo. The “funny” depictions of it aren’t (the “that’s gotta hurt” depictions that’re supposed to make us cringe, okay, but not the slapstick ones– how ’bout “bitches” getting “pimp-slapped,” eh?) And we didn’t call it “ball tagging,” more like “getting kicked in the nuts.” Hell, I’m just glad it (as in the “equipment”) still works after all that. Ow.
Goddess is here, and (Black)Magic is afoot. I’m not trying to be clever, here.
We hate men in our society. Dr. Christina Hoff Sommers wrote, WHO STOLE FEMINISM, and THE WAR AGAINST BOYS.
And…WOMEN AND CHILDREN FIRST! Hippie Flower Children, are less mature than many of their children. Cindy Sheehan, for example.
Dr. Ruth Wisse of Harvard said…Neo Marxist Feminism has done to the American family, what Communism did to the Russian economy and most of the damage is irreparable.
Every pharoah was married to his sister or daughter, and dressed and acted like a woman himself. Tut and Sis, were the last of the line…Two fetuses were mummified with Tut.
Life is Binary..Yin/Yang…Left/Right…-/+…Mother/Father, etc.
I outgrew my Hippie phase…Cut my hair, stopped catting around, got sober. Never did carry around pictures of Chairman Mao.
LITTLE MISS MUFFET RULES!!!!!
http://4merly-a-person.livejournal.com/183928.html
http://www.dadi.org/hysteria.htm
While Narcissism seeks to kill the G-d of our forebearers, Hysterical Feminism seeks to kill the cultural traditions of millenia. Both are goals that rival Genesis, and yet both are succeeding. From clinical experience I have learned, never underestimate the power and determination of pathology(EVIL.) Remember Faust.
As with most personality disorders, the diagnostic hallmarks of the histrionic are the evolved childish protections against the knock, knock (or Tick, Tock) of anxiety and maturation. They are the protection against the universal impulse for union and procreation. The monster under the bed has been displaced by anything which smacks of the “masculine”. The anxiety of becoming a responsible parent has been displaced by the eraser of abortion – the power to kill responsibility. The need for security has been replaced with the demand for government entitlement (another person’s money) without having to struggle with human reciprocity. I am woman, just hear me roar!
Oh for the love of God. We should be a little less eager to paint men as victims here.
Let’s take it out of the realm of the unique attack to a man’s coconuts. There are two different kinds of violent humor. The first is where the joke is, “oh, the poor man/woman.” In that kind of joke, you wince and laugh at the same time, identifying with the person being hit. Pretty much every bad thing that happens to Ben Stiller in meet the parents is of that variety. Stiller is uniquely gifted in being able to be abused and humiliated on screen and still be able keep the audience on his side and laughing in sympathy, rather than contempt.
The second kind of abusive humor is, more or less, “get ‘em.” Pretty much all of the abuse dished out to the thieves in Home Alone is of that variety.
The bag smack is just a particularly extreme version of that. if you like the character you laugh out of sympathy. If you don’t… um actually you often still laugh out of sympathy in sort of a “I wouldn’t wish this on my worst enemy” sort of approach. Like a small example of the sympathetic approach is toward the end of “A Christmas Story” the wife drops a bowling ball into her husband’s lap and he says in a high pitched voice, “thanks.” In my observation, men laugh much harder at that, because it captures the way women will carelessly harm us down there not knowing better, and his reaction is funny because it is true, or relatable.
As far as the increase in showing this kind of smack, well, I am sure it has increased, but I trace it to two things. First in my lifetime we have gotten a lot more frank about sexual issues. I mean when my mom was little they wouldn’t even say the word pregnant on national TV. Second, our culture has gotten courser and it’s a source of cheap laughter.
As for the Bobbitt thing, it is very much a matter of whom you sympathize with. Yes, John Wayne was attacked in a “sexual way” but according to her, he did the same to her. If you are locked into an old school catholic view that divorce is impossible and the jerk won’t stop raping you, as Lorena claimed… its not very hard to understand the twisted logic. “If I can’t leave him and he won’t stop, I’ll cut it off.” So it really turns on how you feel about her story. If you believe her its much more difficult to condemn her. And I will confess to a giant “I don’t know” on the veracity of her story.
And even as I say that I think the jury reached the right verdict—the situation was far too murky to convict either one of them—I still wince at the thought of what she did. And it is perfectly appropriate for women to find it funny that we guys get squeamish about it. It’s no different than Tom Hanks making fun of chick flicks in Sleepless in Seattle (ironically itself a chick flick). It’s nothing more than laughing at the foibles of the different sexes and its not invidious.
Really, seriously, lighten up.
I’ve never liked Ben Stiller’s style of “comedy”. I did no wincing in “sympathy”, but much at how stupid the pranks were. I avoid his films.
Lorena Bobbitt’s original statement to the police prior to being placed under arrest: “He came home, we did it, he got off and I didn’t. He’s selfish. So I pulled it back and I did it.” It’s in the arrest report. Only after being told that this time, unlike all the other times police were called to stop her from pounding him in the groin when she was mad (there were several such calls), she was actually going to be charged with a crime, did she come out with the claim of being the “real victim”, a rape victim by virtue of not having experienced an orgasm like he did.
“The bag smack is just a particularly extreme version of that.”
The point is that so is the breast area or the pubic mound on women. the point si that we don’t see people bashing on that depicted as humorous. Get it now?
Proudly in the minority: As a female the problem is see was not it was too murky to convict either one of them. It’s that she was in one piece and he was in two pieces. Her story was all she had and evidence meant nothing. Now to possibly (to me) the worst part or 1 of 2 bad parts. The majority of the women at the time jumped to the conclusion he deserved it, yet I can’t think of very many things that deserve, ever, that. As good ass whooping sure. But not that, so I was sickened by my own gender. The other disturbing thing was a justice system that could have rectified all the later threatening laughter depictions and comments from women (and men) “that are just joking – don’t be so serious!” The courts set the precedence and I’m willing to guess men could laugh a slight bit more at jokes if Lorena was convicted. I mean really, what’s the right amount of years for deliberately keeping him alive into all that ridicule, and in fact for all future men to go through by way of threats? Apparently women have never heard of castration anxiety? I imagine it’s not much different that other fears on our sleeves that are hard to control, esp. when frequently brought up in BOTH serious, “justified,” and for “comedic” purposes. I really hate the subject. But I’m as immersed as the rest of the human race and will be glad when such stuff is stopped not to stop free speech, but more as an EEO workplace stoppage out of deep respect to men – whether they’ve asked for it or not. Pre-emptove respect. You would threatend a young boys privates and give him a complex just to be lazy with rearing him, right? Same with our treatment of men. We must stop treating them so poorly and trying afterwards to impose worse and worse punishments for their out of control natures striking out at what they hate – women. Their raised by mean women and watch mean, hypochritical women determined to have the upper hand rather than share. What ever happened to we should have a keener understanding of the gentler side of life?
[sigh]
I guess all I can do is explain it again.
We positively depict this sort of behavior and laugh at it in order to maintain the resupply of men who are willing to sacrifice their well-being, safety, health, and lives in exchange for cheaper resources, infrastructure, manufacturing, defense, and so on.
It really is just that simple. We train everyone to devalue men and boys, including our own self-devaluation as men and boys, because we’re not willing to pay the higher costs for goods and services that would occur if enough men and boys weren’t willing to risk injury, crippling, and death in exchange,
Laughing at groin injuries is part of that. It’s a method to maintain our dehumanization of men and boys, including our own self-dehumanization as men and boys. That’s not only why we find it funny, but also why we consider it acceptable to find it funny.
Again, we materially benefit from the positive acceptance of it because of how that acceptance dehumanizes men and boys, which in turn makes them more willing to trade their well-being, safety, health, and lives in exchange for lower costs for resources, infrastructure, manufacturing, defense, and so on.
Oh,well, just one more reason to live in Thailand!
The Marxist/Stalinist Flower Children Of The Damned, have turned America into Sodom.
In their media, they cannot string more than 3 words together, without F-Bombing. Everything spoken is a double entendre. Girls are hypersexualized.
Comedy(sic) Central had a cartoon show just before the last election..Li’l Bush. Oh…hahaha. Matt and Trey of South Park put up stuff, mocking Mohammed, and CC, folds like a cheap lawn chair.
Kicking Dad in the groin, is A RITUAL FOR THESE RABID SKUNKS! ESPECIALLY, YOU NEO MARXIST FEMINISTS.
Anything that represents goodness and The Natural, is mocked, scorned and denigrated.
Jane Fonda(Satan’s Spawn,) drops the C-Bomb on LIVE morning TV. ZZzzzzzzz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3qXUFyzrjM
Has anyone besides me noticed that in almost every American film made in the past 15-20 years has at least one or more scenes of men urinating? Why are urination scenes written into film, what is the point?
I feel it is the take over of Hollywood by homosexuals who cannot get away from showing somekind of bathroom scene. Take notice, it is in virtually every film.
It is unnessary to the plot and I feel caters to the “pee-pee’ fetish of the gay community.
This is my KO punch…I refuse to debate with crazy people. There is ONE TRUTH.
Homosexuals, Leftists and Neomarxist Feminists, all reside on Mankey Jackon’s Never Land, cowering from Meat, Men, Guns, Men, Men, Penises, Testosterone, The thought that we might fight in self defense to save our civilization…
Suicide Bombers, all!
http://www.dadi.org/hysteria.htm
A Culture Dissolving In A Bog Of Feminist Hysteria
Gerald L. Rowles, Ph.D.
14 days before Father’s Day, 2001
An intriguing analogue to the feminist hysteric is the homosexual activist. The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM), within the hysterical context, has also said that “in both sexes overt behavior is often a caricature of femininity.” Given that most reputable scholars and specialists agree that homosexuals represent about 2-3% of the population, they share with the histrionic population an equivalent niche.
Now, I’m going to go fix myself something to eat. Thank you very much. Don’t forget to tip your wait staff. They work hard for you.
I don’t think I’m smarter than everybody. Truly, not The Big Guy. He just tosses these wonderful sites to me, and I have a photographic memory, for other stuff.
Later,
and thanks,
T4M
I’ll tip waiters when people tip me for fixing their computer.
Dr. Helen:
I don’t think the phenomenon you describe indicates the type of cultural shift that your essay would appear to indicate, i.e., an increasing acceptance — even social encouragement — of male genital assault. I suspect the actual phenomenon you describe is far more prosaic.
Several years ago, I purchased a book about writing comedy. The author’s central point throughout the book was that humor — all humor, both the physical, a la the Three Stooges, and the more “cerebral” — is based on someone’s pain or humiliation. The Germans have a word for it — schadenfreude: taking pleasure in another’s misfortune. As I have observed humor and comedy as presented in various media in the years since, I discovered that the author was absolutely correct: the essence of humor requires someone to be hurt, either physically or emotionally. It has ever been thus, from the time Og the caveman invented the wheel, and accidentally rolled the thing over his foot; his cave-confreres laughed so hard over it that they peed their bear-skins.
The apparent increase in incidents of men getting clocked in the junk is, in my view, a bit deceptive; I don’t think there has been a demonstrable increase in such depictions; it’s been a staple of slapstick comedy for more generations than I can count. Instead, there has been a proportional increase, due primarily to other targets of that type of humor being taken off the table as a result of shifting cultural mores. Ethnic jokes are now “profiling” and so un-PC, jokes about women in general are now declared out of bounds as sexual harrassment. (Q: “How many feminists does it take to change a light bulb?” A: “That’s not funny!”) In short, there’s damn little left that is still fair game for making fun of, other than the depiction of a guy with three balls — his own two, and the line drive into left-center field that took a hop into his basket.
Just my nickel’s worth. (It used to be two cents, but the price went up. Inflation.)
When I was a kid (’50s-60s), kicking in the nuts was a huge no-no. It happened, but it was always a big deal. It also wasn’t OK to feed someone the boots while he was lying on the ground and you also didn’t go for a weapon. Guys who did that stuff had no friends and ended up in reform school. The thing is, the men back then were all combat trained and knew that such dirty-fighting was what you did when you wanted to kill a guy, not what you did when you were just pushing and shoving, so they’d all yell at you if they saw you doing that stuff-everybody would yell at you. It wasn’t cool; it wasn’t manly. You could be mad at a guy without wanting to kill him. You’re not imagining things Dr Helen, there has been a change. Nowadays, anything that is intrinsically male is seen as being nothing but puffed-up, ego-driven bullshit that must be laughed at and dismissed without discussion. Think about is, doesn’t the word testosterone pretty well mean stupid these days?
I hope some will consider the possibility that there may be a silent audience of men present who feel their task is to defend the rights of others and not whine about their own rights. Placed alongside pratfalls that have long been considered valid humor, the travails of others seem rather large by comparison.
I recently saw an online petition being ‘circulated’ by a men’s rights grievance group so obsessed with Titanic survival demographics — that asserted that men should have never been victimized by a chivalric code that demands that men defer to women – and insists that these ‘victim values’ be conveyed to our sons.
I’m sorry, but my 12 year old son tragically died this past week and I feel certain that he died with his sense of an obligation to protect others intact. Along with a strong sense of irony and compassion felt for men who feel they need others to defend them when there is no physical threat requiring an ‘alliance’.
Consider that many men may silently grieve that they are mistakenly and involuntarily drafted into a new… grievance group.
I worry when I see men buying into the worst sort of grievance mentality – the very nonsense men rightfully denounced when women’s rights advocates started pedaling it a few decades ago.
We used to be raised to rise above this sort of silliness. Now, we revel in it.
If I’m not mistaken you’re saying FU to Kevin who wrote in. He reaches out for help and deserves it. He’s reveling in nothing at all. How about a little decency?
Ron,
I, too, lost my son. I offer my most profound condolences to you and your entire family.
You and your family have my deepest condolences.
If you don’t mind my asking, how did that happen?
I, too, offer my sincere condolences to you for your horrible loss. And I hope that, should I ever have children, that my son will consider himself to have the same right to life, happiness, and basic human safety that my daughter has.
The obligation to protect others is a basic human one, not an exclusively male one.
I have no idea why this is funny.
You would have to ask the sports announcers in this clip:
http://www.break.com/index/soccer-direct-hit-nut-shot.html
Unfortunately, this says far more about your personal character and your subjective perceptual filters than it does about objective reality.
There is plenty of humor that is not based upon harm. Humans are also amused by experiences that mismatch with their preconceptions and expectations. Where is the hurt in a pun? Or in being tickled? Or in this baby’s reactions to some man’s tonal vocalizing?
You would have to stretch the meaning of “hurt” past any rational, real-world standard of utility to get it to apply to those situations and reactions.
And since there are so many other examples of essentially non-harmful humor out there, if you haven’t observed any then it’s a virtual certainty that the reason for that is something personal and specific and subjective about you, not because of objective reality.
I knew it was always painful for a guy to get hit there and never would have even contemplated it unless I myself was in grave danger from said guy. Fast forward to being in my 20′s and studying for my black belt in martial arts. We sparred frequently. Men always wore a cup, but we never purposefully kicked them there. However, one time I got kicked hard in the groin. The sparring partner didn’t mean to. Ladies, if you don’t think it hurts like H-E-double hockey sticks, I’m here to tell you it will change your perspective. So when I watch these “home videos” on TV and some poor dude gets hit in the nads, IT’S NOT FUNNY.
Thank you, Dr. Helen, again, for bringing this person’s letter to light. Both of you are correct: it’s sexual assault, and needs to be treated as such.
I have no idea why anyone would consider it funny when anyone else is hurt, and writing around (or on the ground) in pain.
A few years ago, I was in NYC with friends, and I decided to take a break from the bar scene to grab some bottled water at a nearby all-night-deli. I excused myself and walked about half a block west. In the time I was in the store, getting my liter of water (probably for about $6.49), it began to rain. POUR. I said, “Oh, jeez,” and then ran as quickly as I could back to the bar. It didn’t help. Upon my re-entrance, tugged at my drenched shirt and made some comment to the effect of, “Well, I wanted water, and I got it!” and one of my friends laughed. He apologized immediately for laughing, but I said, “It’s okay! You can laugh; it was funny.” On the other hand, had I been HURT instead of wet, and people had laughed, I would have been very upset.
On SESAME STREET many years ago, there was an episode on which one of the adult characters hurts his thumb while using a hammer. Oscar the Grouch appears and asks what the commotion is, and the man explains what happens, adding, “You probably think this is funny.” But, in one of the great moments of the show’s history, Oscar says, “No! I laugh at people sometimes, but I don’t laugh when someone is in pain. Pain HURTS!”
Those “funny videos” shows could be great, if they focused on actual funny things happening, rather than one long montage of men (and, yes, the occasional woman) being hurt in the groin. I’m depressed that AFHV has been on the air so long, and even more depressed that the show is aired for the traditional “family hour” of 7 p.m. EST on Sundays. “Gather ’round the TV, everyone! It’s time for an hour of people being hurt!”
In response to the topic I did a moments research.
You tube has any number of pages with girls/women
being kicked, punched or otherwise struck in the groin,
through either intent or inadvertence.
Little in the way of humour but instructive by way of contrast with contemporary views of the same action performed on men/boys.
Here is one that some may find unsettling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MaqpM4kIaw
The laugh track is somewhat muted.
Compare and contrast.
I HAVE laughed at guys getting hit or kicked in the groin, but it’s been more like a shock laughter, kind of like the way people laugh nervously when a comedian says something that’s way out there. I DON’T think it’s funny for anybody to be hurt like that. When I was about 10, I was riding a boy’s bike that didn’t have the plastic part of the pedals, just the metal rod that runs through the center. My foot slipped off of the rod and I hit my groin against the bike frame very hard. It was extremely painful, and I’ve never forgotten it, yet I don’t think it could approach the pain of a hit to the testes. My brothers used to try to hit each other in the crotch all of the time, and when they managed to make a hit they’d yell,”I got last!” Dudes, you all have it rough.
Shock laughter is different. In fact it shows that you think the situations is painful awkward or whatever.
Uh. Anyone consider that men just like drawing attention to their genitals any way possible even if under the guise of faux abuse for humor’s sake?
C’mon, folks. Think outside the jock-strap.
I wonder if the emasculation of men in our society has something to do with perceptions formed by the teaching of evolution. By teaching that humans evolved from ape-like creatures, neanderthals and so-on, perhaps the idea has become that masculinity is a primitive trait that should be evolving towards something more sophisticated and refined. Think about how the corporate professional and even the military image has been crafted over the past generations. In reading history, I do not recall reading about any battles or wars that were lost due to soldiers having beards and mustaches or hair that was not buzz-cut. Yet, for whatever reason, the powers that be have decided that this is the only way to go for the modern man. I suppose we are expected to evolve into something like the completely hairless, frail bodied super-intelligent creatures of abduction stories and sci-fi fantasy.
While it is true that the US military has changed appearances over time, the clean shaven, short hair look is actually due to two things: 1. Our protective masks will not be able to form a seal. The hair allows gaps for chemicals/gases to enter the protective mask. This is a bad thing. Ask anyone who has not been able to seal their masks in time during training with CS gas. 2. The goal of having all Soldiers look the same enforces a single standard of what our Soldiers should look like. If all Soldiers are to be clean shaven, it is easy to see who is abiding by the regulations. Our Special Forces only wear beards when it is required by mission, not by choice. Thank you for your time.
Oh, please… speaking as a guy who, like most guys, has been on both the giving and the receiving end… it just plain *is* funny when a guy gets hit in the ‘nads. And yes, even when it happens to you. But just to clarify: the blow needs to be delivered either accidentally or with humorous intent by a friend or acquaintance who has implicit approval for the act. Kicking a stranger, even in fun, is a no-no. So is actually trying to do some real damage. Those situations are called assault. But as far as simply “sacking” a guy is concerned… well, guess what? Exotic peoples in far off lands aren’t the only ones who have complex social rites of passage. Here in the New World, boys and men also need to occasionally “prove their worth” to other boys and men, to gain acceptance into the “tribe.” The guys who can’t “take it like a man” when a softball goes too far south or a drunken pal horses around? Well, those guys simply aren’t “one of the guys.” It’s just one of the silly little ways that we weed out the weaklings in our culture. Yes, you heard me right. In other cultures young men jump off high platforms with vines tied around their ankles, or carve elaborate scars into their skin. Boys have to prove their bravery and strength to other boys, the world over. Ever notice that this kind of humour doesn’t much happen once a guy is past his teens? And yes… the group laughter that a kick to the groin elicits is also part of the custom. Once upon a time these boys entered what we called the “warrior class.” Now we just call them “guys.”
And speaking on behalf of the guys… trust me. We’d much rather be kicked in the ‘nads… than be emasculated. Consider that, if you will.
Wargasm: “The guys who can’t ‘take it like a man’ when a softball goes too far south or a drunken pal horses around? Well, those guys simply aren’t ‘one of the guys.’ It’s just one of the silly little ways that we weed out the weaklings in our culture. Yes, you heard me right…And yes… the group laughter that a kick to the groin elicits is also part of the custom. Once upon a time these boys entered what we called the ‘warrior class.’ Now we just call them ‘guys.’…And speaking on behalf of the guys…”
Uh, yeah. Stop speaking on behalf of “the guys,” K?
bmmg39:
Nope. I won’t. One of the benefits of being a “guy” is that we get to speak for each other on such things. We earned that right by not whining to the ref every time we got hit after the whistle by one of the other guys. So on behalf of all guys, everywhere… relax on the Sensitivity Training 101. K?
Quite seriously, if you can’t tell the difference between a genuine victim of violence – who is fully deserving of our support – and some guy taking a harmless shot to the groin – who earns only laughter – then you really need to be more concerned with the tightness of your own sphincter and less concerned with the testicles of other men.
Cheers.
Oops. Lest anyone misinterpret my last remark, I’m simply suggesting bmmg39 need not be such a tightarse.
Wargasm: “One of the benefits of being a ‘guy’ is that we get to speak for each other on such things.”
No, you don’t. Feel free to speak for yourself, or yourself and all the other doormats who think “not sticking up for yourself” equals “being a man.”
“…relax on the Sensitivity Training 101. K?”
Go take a flying dump. That “sensitive” enough for you?
“Quite seriously, if you can’t tell the difference between a genuine victim of violence – who is fully deserving of our support – and some guy taking a harmless shot to the groin – who earns only laughter – then you really need to be more concerned with the tightness of your own sphincter and less concerned with the testicles of other men.”
It seems you have a rather zealous infatuation with other guys’ testicles and sphincters.
Yes. Yes I do. If you were one of the guys, you’d understand. And as far as “not sticking up for myself” is concerned, well… I’m afraid you just don’t get it. Being one of the guys means you learn how to dish it out *and* how to take it. And on those occasions when you do get “got,” you don’t go cryin’ to momma. And I’m not just talking about getting hit in the ‘nads, here. The whole “finding humour in the groin shot” is a symbolic understanding amongst men that sometimes you get the bear, and sometimes the bear gets you.
Congrats on overcoming your sensitivity training with the colourful advice you offered. I truly mean that.
And the only interest I have in other men’s testicles is a very slight amusement when the testicles are comically injured, or when men are acting like one of the aforementioned sphincters. As you are, my friend. Recall here that I’m not the one rushing to the defense of those poor “victims” who get ball-tapped by moronic – but well-meaning – friends. You’re the one trying to metaphorically caress those gonads back to health.
Okay, I’ll give “speaking for the guys” a go. Real guys don’t go around hitting people in the crotch as a joke. Drunken fratboys do, as do sober fratboys who are usually just a tad more intelligent than drunken fratboys, but real guys don’t. Real guys — y’know, real human beings — understand that you’re not allowed to go around touching other people’s genitals without their permission, let alone hurting them.
Again, if you have some sort of consensual, homoerotic (and that’s not a slam, mind you) game of touching other men’s genitals with their approval, more power to ya. But you need to do some real reflection if you think there’s something odd about the man who would just as soon not have somebody touch his testicles.
Sorry to drone on. You may now return to your regularly scheduled episode of JACKASS.
misandry permeates our culture..look around..everywhere from the always-a-doofus husband in advertising to the gales of laughter that greet a report of a man’s genitals being severed. it’s a serious problem but i don’t see anyone, present article excluded, addressing the issue.
Did I just wander into the wrong website? People are joking, right?
I mean, I get the point of intentional violence against men being blown out of proportion, and in some ways an outpouring of feminist angst (perhaps even penis envy?).
But if someone doesn’t laugh at a guy inadvertently taking a shot to the groin, they’re not human. And I’m a bit concerned that the nanny effect is starting to sweep across the right side of the political spectrum here, to be honest.
Men don’t want to be “victimized.” It’s not manly at all. Maybe that’s why most conservative commentary decrying males as victims are written by women? Just saying…
…and you get my SECOND “sftu” of the night, cackcon. Those of us who know that someone in pain isn’t funny are actually QUITE human, and, it seems, moreso that those who don’t.
And enough with your “manliness” nonsense. I work with male victims and they are rather tired of your stereotyping making life even suckier for them. So knock it the hell off.
Nice to see you blogging again Dr Helen. Hope you are settling in well in your new home.
And, can we ALL agree that Dr. Phil is the biggest douche of them all when it comes to men?
People told jokes about John Wayne Bobbitt because his name was John Wayne “bob it.”
I mean, it was too good to pass up.
They’d have made jokes if it had been a woman punched in the breasts, too, if her name had been Sarah Jane Soreknockers.
I don’t care how horrifying the facts are; People laugh about things that horrify them all the time, if the joke is there to be made. I remember the tasteless jokes after the first space shuttle was destroyed. Nobody approved of that, but that didn’t stop the jokes.
I’m not saying the “genital violence against men” thing doesn’t exist. I’m not saying it does. (I honestly hadn’t noticed a problem, but if there’s a societal problem about it, then, well, I hope very much it’ll be solved, but I have more pressing things to worry about than that, and I won’t stay up nights analyzing the problem.)
All I’m saying is that you can’t use the public’s laughter at the story of a man whose last name means “cut it short,” who coincidentally experienced a, uh, “Galatian Circumcision,”*** as an indication that the public doesn’t care about violence done to men’s genitals. It’s an invalid test case, because the humor factor trumps all.
*** the reference is St. Paul’s Epistle to the Galatians, ch. 5, v. 12
I think this is just one facet of a much wider problem. the general (white) male bashing in society at large. That in itself is a manifestation of the increasing disrespect between people.
I’ve never heard of ball tapping, but it sounds stupid. I can’t imagine it lasting. When I was in school, even as much as glancing at another male’s genital area meant that you were gay. If someone had touched another male down there, he’d be branded as a homo for the rest of his life.
Conversely, being slapped by a female would not be so bad. Any attention from a female to the groin area, short of actual damage, would be worth a little pain. Just suck it up and be proud that she want’s a feel.
That’s what it’s like for children, but adults are another matter.
The irony of the feminists laughing at this kind of thing, is that it will ultimately teach some boys to use violence and intimidation to get what they want, and it will be associated with their sexuality. The behaviors we learn as children are what we use when we reach adulthood. If we’re taught that violence, force, and ridicule are the ways people interact, that is how we will try to get along with people as adults. We all learn by example.
Children will always have these problems to overcome, since they are locked up with each other in an animalistic environment. Adults should have the maturity to set the proper example for them though, in order to teach them the proper behaviors to use as adults.
No abuse is to be tolerated, of course. That should be the bottom line. However, humor is humor, and people have always had a bit of wicked senses of humor where falling down, being hit on the head, or whatever kind of crazy slap-stick accidents happen, i.e. the three stooges. Mostly you see this type comedy played out by men, but Lucille Ball made this kind of humor in to an art form. There is nothing wrong with it, and lets quit being so confounded serious about everything. That is one of the problems with today. Every blasted thing is such a huge big deal, and everyone is so ever lasting sensitive. For heaven’s sake, Bobbitt, (what a convenient name), is not a good example to use for an abuse case. This guy was abusive, physically, not to mention the mental, emotional abuse he waged on his wife and the repeated adultery. He was verbally abusive, tossed her around and used her for a punching bad. By the time she got to penis whacking and made up her mind to actually bobbit, she’d was done. While I don’t think she exactly made the best choice in terms of retribution against him, I can see her point, no pun intended. Obviously, it was his power over her, his maleness that she was after, and it was represented by his penis, and that’s what she went after. It makes sense that it represented to her the power and control she was unable to overcome; not to mention it representated his cheating, the reason for much of her pain. It was all she could do to fight back, and for at least that period of time, with that knife, she had the power, and she took advantage of it. I believe whacking the penis was symbolic. I can understand it. I don’t think there is a woman alive who could not understand what she did, and why. Of course men could relate to the pain. That’s easy to understand. The reason people laughed about it, is because Wayne Bobbitt was such colossal a jerk. Let’s be honest here. Every man who heard the story knows he’s had cheating on his mind at one time or other, so of course he can imagine such a thing. Every man, whose truly honest with himself knows he’s vulnerable to the same thing; that’s why across the nation men everywhere were grabbing their crotches and moaning at the very thought of such a thing. That’s why women laughed collectiely. We all share the knowledge, but for the grace of God, we may stumble down that path as well. The fact is, had Bobbitt been a great guy, and had their been sound evidence to the fact that she was a real witch, the populace would have been sympathetic toward him. Are you kidding? People would have been out to string her up had she done this to a really great guy, and their was evidence to show that. The fact that she did what she did, made folks immediately suspicious of him. Sorry, but there is a class of men who have a bad reputation they won’t live down in a very long time. Bobbitt went on to prove over again, in additional relationships that he was a scoundrel, just as he had been with Lorraina, his first wife. He’s fortunate he didn’t lose his penis a second time. Do I advocate this? Of
course not. I’m a domestic violence attorney. I advocate for dv victims. That’s how much I don’t advocate using this type of remedy. But, don’t lump it in with general abuse. Abuse is actual abuse. Retribution is something altogether different. Retribution is getting someone back for what they did to you. Or in this case, taking an opportunity when the abuser is in a vulnerable state, because that is the only time you feel empowered. Knowing you’re powerless to fight your abuser any other time, you take the opportunity when your abuser is most vulnerable; you attack what to you is the most important symbol of that abuse. Of course, no one should ever take retribution into their own hands. ITs very dangerous, and they’ll likely get themselves into trouble doing this. But, let’s call it what it is. If my husband is beating me, and I finally, when he is asleep, take my chance and burn him in his bed – (i.e. ‘the burning bed’)- I am not abusing him, per se. I am taking revenge, or I am not only taking revenge, I’m getting out at the same time as taking revenge. In that one act, I completed the issue, I finished the problem. ITs done. To the man who wrote in: The chances of you being treated in a similar manner are slim to none, so long as you’re behaving like a gentleman. There are exceptions, certainly. However, they are rare. Have you heard of a second Bobbitt?
As a DV attorney you might find more info on the Bobbitt marriage useful. The police were very familiar with the two of them. So were the neighbors, who had called the cops on Lorena many times for beating her husband to a pulp. When the police arrived, they usually found her standing over him, beating him in the testicles with whatever was handy, a broomstick or her foot. Lorena bragged to her friends several months in advance of the crime that if he ever cheated on her she was going to cut off his penis. After he was hit with a child-support bill and she knew he’d cheated, she cut off his penis. She had never been arrested for domestic violence in any of the previous assaults and didn’t expect to be arrested for the last one. When she was, she claimed “I’m the real victim” and said that because he had an orgasm when they had sex that night, and she did not, she considered that rape.
A. Mastick, there most certainly HAVE been men who have been sexually mutilated by their significant others (or by women who WEREN’T their significant others), and there are always some buffoons making light of it, regardless of the women’s “reason” (not that there is ever an acceptable reason for sexually mutilating someone).
So if my wife is abusive to me I am well within my rights to plant my foot in her crotch?
I hate to be blunt, but on this important topic I must. You’ve overthought this to keep men scared as well, and it’s disrespectful and mean. You could consider it a little bit further from their point of view. Did the men collectively moan as you say, because they imagined it happening if they cheat? Just a moan? And women laughed thinking it was just a moan? I think it went deeper than a moan, and should never have been laughed at.
As far as the slim-to-none chance of it happening so long as he’s a gentleman, that’s the ol’ defining term men must love…meet our terms and keep your penis. You’re so generous to men. I think men would like to be generally good but say FU to a know-it-all dictating terms in an attempt to add statistical realism(?). How about simply jailed for life and I think the men would be satisfied they’re rights are equally protected as with convicted rapists? Any stabbing of sexual parts must ALWAYS be premeditated and therefore a greater crime.
Anyone who ever tries to “ball tap” me will be needing a new set of teeth. There is no humor in that kind of s###.
What did Jeffrey Dahmer say to Lorena Bobbitt? “You gonna eat that?”
Bill Cosby, in his routine about playing football for Temple University, talked about seeing a hole in the line for the first time in his career. There was a defender on the ground; Cos stepped over him, and the guy came up and hit him – “in the worst place. And the pain was tremendous.” And yes, it was funny.
When Butch Cassidy kicks a mutinous gang member in the groin, it’s funny.
Butch: [No fight] until [we] get the rules straightened out.
Harvey: Rules? In a knife fight? (Butch kicks him) Aaaagh!
More generally, violence against men is tolerated at a certain level, simply because it’s considered part of the culture, and has been for centuries. Males fight – or roughhouse.
I do note that in older films and video, male aggression against women that would be outrageous now is played for laughs – i.e. a husband throws his quarrelsome wife over one shoulder, and takes her up to the apartment in the elevator, while she yells and pounds on his back.
So, in the name of achieving female equality women should have the opportunity of suffering crotch whacking and nipple twisting in movies and tv productions. Equality in all things. This would serve to hasten that downward spiral in our cultural status. Isn’t this a worthy mission to be undertaken by the leftists NOW and the ACLU ?
As an RN and mother of two boys who we chose to keep intact at birth, I must poin out that a few comments have been made about circumcision that stand to be corrected.
1. Circumcision is exceedingly painful. A typical circ removes at least 50-80% of the penile skin, including the most EROGENOUS tissue. 20,000+ nerve endings.
2. Circ is not just a “little snip”. A newborn baby’s prepuce is adhered to the glans. Its job is to protect the glans from urine and fecal matter. To remove the foreskin, these adhesions (synchia, the same matter that adheres your nails to their nail beds) must be painfully torn, leaving an open wound into which the child now urinates and defecates.
Go to NOCIRC.org to learn the truth about the risks, harms and lifelong consequences of circumcision, before blowing it off as a harmless procedure that any parent, doctor, mohel, etc can ethically perform on a nonconsenting minor.
Many prominent Jews disapprove of circumcision and perform a Bris Shalom (a ceremony involving no circ or cutting of any kind) instead of a Bris Milah. Many medical doctors also refuse to perform circ, maintaining that there is no valid medical reason to do it.
“Do you think this is a widespread problem?”
Yes, genital assaults against males is an extremely serious problem along with a widespread problem.
An unrecognized crime is occuring every second of every day, where male minors are having the healthy foreskins forcefully amputated from their penises as part of ancient and brutal blood rites. A small fraction of male circumcisions are performed by western medical practitioners, but remain just as brutal and just as medically useless as a ritual circumcision performed by an African witch doctor.
So-called civilized societies rightly recognize the horror of female circumcision, but fail to recognize the similarities with male circumcision and fail to regognize the harm.
Common sense says that doctors shouldn’t be performing permanent and damaging surgical alterations to a healthy baby’s penis. An increasing number of doctors are coming to see routine male circumcision as profoundly unethical and a gross violation of the child’s right to genital autonomy and the secutity of his person – basic human rights.
Unfortunately, there are other doctors for whom the temptation of earning hundreds of dollars for a few minutes work is just too great.
Laws protecting girls from genital cutting urgently need to be extended to boys in order to protect them from unethical doctors and religious zealots who believe they have a right to mutilate the genitals of children.
94. James Mac,
Thank you for your heart-felt post. God bless you. Men have learned to be ashamed of their natural God-Given penises. I think genitalia of either sex will never win a beauty contest but, good grief, we are talking about little boys who have NO CHOICE about a part of their penis removed.
Piercings? I NEVER had my daughter’s ears pierced when she was young and surprise she doesn’t want them pierced and she’s 23 now and she is immensely happy that I never made that choice for her.
Our boys need to be just as protected as girls are. It’s imperative if our society is going to move forward. I’m still sickened by the ‘pretty teachers’ molesting boys crap. Double standards much? UGH!
Yes it is a very widespread problem.
Now, is anyone brave enough to look at the most prevalent and real source of these problems:
NOW and our amazingly violent Domestic Violence Coalitions, which unfairly vilify and attack boys and men. These are the entities which actually encourage any and all related anti-male activity such as this and much, much more.
Until NOW and our DV Coalitions are publicly denounced for their abuse and twisting of the truth and making attacks on men politically popular and politically correct, these and many more problems will continue, for women and children too. These gang-abusers are no saviors of ANYONE.
Before I go to the movie theatre to watch I movie, I ALWAYS research it to see if there is any offensive “crotch humor” in it and if there is, I don’t give them a dime. As you said, “rape jokes” have been long thrown out of modern entertainment (if indeed anyone ever did joke about rape all that much), but not crotch humor. If anything it has become more and more commonplace to the point where even kids shows depict it. If a show on TV depicts it, that is the last time I watch that show. If more of us protest in such a way, producers will get the hint…but unfortunately pervasive misandry in our culture has been firmly seated so I don’t know how long until that will change.
Good job! My EXACT approach as well.
Not true Lance.
I can think of several movies where rape is depicted as funny (with the necessary condition that the victim is male of course).
Just off the top of my head:
Euro-trip where the guy gos into a swedish whorehouse, and because of a language barrier ends up being anally violated by two muscle-bound oiled guys in leather outfits who use drill-powered pile-driving plastic dildos on the guy.
This is little more than a gay rape scene with plastic penises replaced for real ones. I don’t think most men realize WTF they are laughing at anymore.
The symbolism pretty much is screaming off the screne, yet guys continue to laugh at what is essentially the producers assault on men in general.
Then there is some stupid slap-stick comedy either with Ryan Reynolds, or the “stiffler” guy in which he is playing pool with two women and chatting them up and talks about earning his “brown belt”. The women take him to their hotel room, where they blindfold & tie him, then anally violate him with plastic dildos.
There also seems to be a sickening but strongly growing undercurrent of moving abuse as humor from men to boys as in the movies Mr. Woodc0ck and the remake bad news bears (in which the coach is chucking baseballs at the boys’ heads to help them dodge).
The only thing more pervasive then this sickening message is how stupid 98% of men, women are. God bless her, my mom saw Mr. Woodc0ck and said “that’s child abuse”.
I owe her a lot of thanks to turning out as good as I did. But she was of a different generation, that wasn’t afraid to speak her mind and hold her moral high ground.
Today, it seems like people who fearlessly brave physical dangers can never screw up enough courage to disagree with the masses.
It’s totally sad and perverted.
All PC is, is the Antithesis Of Truth. It’s been around forever.
Sexular Subhumyn Atheists are TERRIFIED of MEAT. It’s always been that way.
Saint Paul’s letter to the Romans; 14
The Weak and the Strong
1Accept him whose faith is weak, without passing judgment on disputable matters. 2One man’s faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables.
14As one who is in the Lord Jesus, I am fully convinced that no food[b] is unclean in itself.
22So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the man who does not condemn himself by what he approves. 23But the man who has doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin.
Liberals are smug and condescending about(EVERYTHING) their absolute brilliance, regarding what’s GOOD FOR US! From my last comment, SOY is about as toxic a food, that we can consume.
Everything in life boils down to CHOICE…To do Right, or Wrong…To allow me my FREEDOM, or to follow me around and SPY on me, to see that I’m not too fat, if I SMOKE, what I drive, etc.
Alexis de Tocqueville said…A woman would rather be RIGHT, than reasonable.
This goes for Girley Men as well. That’s why Leftism and now Islam, are the most popular religions in the Western World.
The pharoahs were all married to their sisters or daughters, and they all dressed and acted like womyn…Nothing new under the sun.
Tut’s dad, forced the Egyptians to worship one god…The Sun Disk. When Tut came to power at 9 years old, THE OLD WAYS came back in a hurry.
Yin has a permanent restraning order on Yang. All you people are doing, is reporting some of the bad stuff, but you’re about 75% PC.
You hate me, because I had the temerity to dis, Roger Simon. Or, you are jealous, that I know more than you do.
Either way, the Jihad is here, and it’s thriving.
As father of four boys, haven’t seen nor heard of this in my son’s lives. But after reading above, I’m going home and instructing them that “if anyone — boy OR GIRL — ‘ball taps’ you, you have my permission — nay, my urging — to punch them with a closed fist as hard as you can in the face breaking nose cartiledge or whatever; I will back you up in the school system regardless of what happens”. No one has ever tried that with me as I grew up nor anyone I know and I grew up in 1970′s 1980′s so I’m confused by the proclaimed frequency of it today. I just haven’t seen it. But maybe it’s like dealing with stray dogs: if you walk confidently (because you know you’ll totally f’ up something that comes at you) dogs leave you alone. Are people (primates) the same? Probably.
Lest you accuse me me ‘being a peasant rabble’ — last fight I’ve been in was 10th grade football game. And I’ve have multiple advanced degrees. I just think this topic is so over the top that the reaction to it must be too.
Mr. WTF,
Please take a little bit of friendly, albeit unsolicited advise. NEVER, EVER, suggest to your God given child, to strike a woman, or even raise his voice to her.
He breaks her nose with a right hook, and you better get ready to visit him weekly, Up State, at the Crowbar Hotel, for the next 5-7 years.
There is a reason little sayings have come into existance, such as…HELL HATH NO FURY.
Mr. WTF,
Apparently, you haven’t been on the receiving end of a Stasi Enforced, LIFE LONG RESTRAINING ORDER,had your name trashed, and your character assassinated by Lunatic Hysterical Femarxists and had your children taught to despise you. Consider yourself blessed, by Salome and the Mother of all Hippies, Margaret Sanger.
Millions upon millions of us have been minced in divorce court and in the Leftist Media, all sorts. I’m Homer Simpson…Any number of TV commercials, showing Dad as a horses ass, or helpless idiot, needing advise from his 9 year old daughter to eat Cheerios to reduce his cholestoral.
This seems OVER THE TOP, to you, because you are sure, I’m guessing, that the stereotype applies, to everybody but you with your multiple higher degrees, and your friends who may teach college subjects, etc.
http://www.dadi.org/hysteria.htm
A Culture Dissolving In A Bog Of Feminist Hysteria
Gerald L. Rowles, Ph.D.
14 days before Father’s Day, 2001
An intriguing analogue to the feminist hysteric is the homosexual activist. The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM), within the hysterical context, has also said that “in both sexes overt behavior is often a caricature of femininity.”
As with most personality disorders, the diagnostic hallmarks of the histrionic are the evolved childish protections against the knock, knock (or Tick, Tock) of anxiety and maturation. They are the protection against the universal impulse for union and procreation. The monster under the bed has been displaced by anything which smacks of the “masculine”. The anxiety of becoming a responsible parent has been displaced by the eraser of abortion – the power to kill responsibility. The need for security has been replaced with the demand for government entitlement (another person’s money) without having to struggle with human reciprocity. I am woman, just hear me roar!
The ridiculousness of the Feminist poseur would be laughable if the culture were not allowing itself to be intimidated into submission. If there is anything the Feminist cannot tolerate, it is humor (except male bashing) or truth, especially if it challenges their incantations.
Bumper Stinker, in Gayvermont…Find A Cure For Testosterone Poisoning.
If your son has a knife in his chest, deposited there, by his sweetheart and it has caused a sucking chest wound, he will be brought to the hospital, maybe, and then to the county jail’s infirmary for Domestic Violence, because Wimmin, are incapable of same.
Last comment of the night…What separates us from the Beasts in the forest, is a conscience and the ability to exert self control, and to show MERCY.
There is no more evil monster in nature, other than a Sexular Subhumynist Darwinist…The Adult Chimpanzee is the second most evil animal on the planet.
Just like a Communist or Jihadist, this wild ANIMAL has to be shot dead, for it to stop its attack. Absolutely Satanic, Darweenies, just gush on the Holy Science Channels, as to how close they are related to Chimps, their Closest Cousins.
In the wild, chimps are war like, tribal and absolutely murderous to strangers.
Warning…This video is of a 911 call, in Connecticut a couple of years ago, when a woman’s pet adult chimp, savagely attacked her good friend. Not for the faint of heart.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgS0KgT5APc
Maybe wait till daytime to watch this…BAD DREAMS, I’ll tell you.
One story I read about this, the absolute asxxxle of a scientist writer, concluded the piece with…We may NEVER KNOW what prompted this (WILD EFFING ANIMAL’S) attack.
You sound like you are talking feminist bullshit… should you justify in any way a man raping a woman because he felt powerless by her. would if she was arrogant or flaunted her “stuff” would you say she was asking for it?
groin attacks are a sick sexual assault. never let your kids think its OK.
A. Mastick (comment #89) thank you for your well thought out words. While I never intended to be too serious in life, other than for serious matters, I had an absolutely terrible time with the Bobbitt incident. Very traumatic for me was watching women’s laughter and something you addressed that I’ve been asking myself off and on for years – the instant decision he deserved it, almost without wanting to know and facts in order to not find guilt with Lorena. My confidence in women’s goodness left and I think it has a lot to do with how you’re brought up (whether affected psychologically as a male). I always tried to be a good person and yes I did believe in fighting but also showing mercy. Yes, correct, we men do constantly think about cheating and how horrible and unfair a life without a penis could be in response to an action on begalf of feeling rejection, lack of appreciation, etc. — cheating — which is very hurtful, of course. Furthermore, a fact the women will have her behaviour excused and the man become an instant bad guy, joke, photographed, and never treated as a victim. I’ve seen life sentence, and at least 20 for physchological torture (rape), yet only 10 years for cutting off a penis in Thailand. No life – life is about relationships (even if sewn back on) and merely 10 years jail, for a ruined life. Now this is the US and I could not resolve to understand women insisting this was right, in effect not caring about my privates in any disagreement. At the time it was too real to me – my early 20′s, whole life ahead of me, no justice or jail time, and I care about myself (naturally) more than I cared that they were caring to not “get in a little trouble” if. I was told by, at the time, a trusted female I worried too much – rather than her answer my simple, cool, repeated (hopeful) question, “Why is it funny?” I hated Leno for fostering this and I do think it was fostered. Youo asked about 2nd Bobbitts and this happened numerous time – but more so groin kicks. “It’s all covered up in jeans so it’s just a spot” seems to be the thinking – but picture soft testes bruising and bleeding and the man mostly recovering. And it hurt to watch society all around at the time. I was married but my wife was just not able to discuss why all the “other” women in the world thought this was funny and deserved without wanting the story.
I had wondered if John Bobbitt became worse toward women after his cutting, rather than what you said – that he proved he’s bad (I had heard that comment before). I mean after being photo’d and known in every grovery store and possibly threatened by a new wife, “ah the hell with it” and he goes off, saying to himself nothing could be worse than this life, and what could be worse than before?
No I didn’t intend to live a life of thinking about groin kicks and male abuse, never thought it would happen. It has followed me around and I do fine. But it is there, everywhere, and should stop. Men can genereally only respond by being uselessly fearful or abusively brave. Neither man is a good hsuband or father. Men, just as women, need constant reminders sexual abuse is wrong rather than ok if it’s against them.
Most boys in the USA begin life by having their genitals mutilated. The lack of concern for basic human rights and dignity that associates such barbarism is the seed of all other violations that follow. We ignore the mutilation for the same reason we laugh at the bludgeoning of their testicles, for the same reason that womens’ diseases receive vastly more funding than mens’, for the same reason we punish men more for committing the same crimes as women. The behavior of men or boys who ‘sack tap’ is the behavior of a generation of men who have been taught to devalue themselves. Why should they value themselves? Men are unworthy victims. From the time men are helpless babies they are physically mutilated and emotionally abused for being male.
I am sick in my heart that this continues and the hurt causes anger that won’t go away since these depictions are now so prevalent that daily I have a tightening in my stomach as I anticipate the next portrayal of male genital assault in whatever movie or show I am watching. Seriously, try going a day without being exposed to it. Its either ha, ha, or he had it coming because he is a disgusting or stupid (fill in the adjective) man or revenge because he is abusive… etc.
I do not hate women. Yet, this sick stuff has me yearning to see images of women’s genitals being attacked daily. Only then will we have any hope of seeing less fascination with male sexual degradation.
I agree whole-heartedly. I feel the same apprehension when I think of seeing a movie with my girlfriend. It’s just an all-out assault on anything masculine and we’re expected to cower and admit that we are weak, unnecessary, and deserve the abuse. Real men should stand and demand the same degree of respect that’s afforded women.
Been thinking about the women who suggest its okay to laugh at this because they have seen some (immature, misguided) men laugh at it. I believe maturity is the main issue here along with socialization. By socialization I mean that it has become so prevalent and is the norm that the media depicts this as humorous and permissible abuse that many young boys feel they have to go along with it and find it funny in order to fit in and be cool even if they are very uncomfortable with it and they get the unspoken messages and demeaning characterization of manhood that accompanies it.
Basically, women who use this excuse seem to me to be little or no different than white bigots who try to excuse the use of the “N” word by saying that blacks use it themselves. Sadistic or male hating women who use this excuse to condone it are hiding behind a straw man argument. They don’t have male genitals and have no right to condone the violence. Moreover, if we are ever to have a more humanistic society that condemns either sex’s pain as entertainment, women must start speaking out against this as well as men, just as women advocate for men to take on a more active role against violence against women.
I agree with many of the comments here; What we’re witnessing is a double standard in the media and ultimately the general society as media reflects a false reality upon us, in their blatant attempt to define us.
Recent consolidation of power by covert feminists and gays behind the scenes, has surprisingly (or not) resulted a massive increase in the visual expression of hatred or disgust with all things male. The “ball kick” is but one manifestation of their mentally ill mindset. Another Hollywood favorite is the “smart female/stupid male” paradigm where a little boy is portrayed as an absolute imbecile while the little girls are nearly always “precocious”. Males are constantly portrayed as inferior. But the “get even” mindset of these sexual deviants is also creating a negative reaction as their efforts are not only transparent and infantile they are destructive to the very people they promote in the long run. Taking a look at the real power brokers behind the scenes in Hollywood today one finds an elitist and condescending culture that never misses a beat in foisting off their corrupt values us as a society. They are arrogantly blatant about their political correctness and their right to do so as well. I find it amusing that the word “titties” will be edited out of a motion picture that is meant for cable or broadcast television while “ball kicks”, and references to male genital injury of all sorts abounds (whether by knife, syringe, foot or baseball bat). Should I remind readers that a male can be put in prison for simply TOUCHING a womans breasts. Touching a vagina without consent is considered rape. While I am not an advocate of such, is it not a blatant double standard that we are asking males to swallow here?
And what about the effects of this double standard? Is there any question why our society is producing more gays while at the same time producing more misogynists and more homophobes than ever before? Did I forget to mention the substantial lead in sex crimes including pedophilia that the US leads the world in?
I’ve got to hand it to the readers who point out that starting with circumcision males are sold a preposterous double standard in US society – a total affront to human rights bar none. The comparison to female circumcision is not at all lost nor inaccurate. How sad it is that our society is being systematically destroyed by the mentally ill gay, lesbian and angry feminists that rule the mainstream media. Please do not assume that I am asserting that ALL persons of those groups are mentally ill, however it would seem that the ones making their way to “Hollywood” are indeed so. One simply has to turn on their televisions, open their eyes and MIND and it’s easy to see.
Well maybe they deserve it for thousands of years of oppressing us.
Wallace is just trying to instigate violence against women because he hates is mother and is too afraid to leave the closet.
http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=30791999
This woman admitting she kicked her ex “in the balls” and that he “fully deserved it.” I asked “why” and she replied “he cheated on me.”
Women re very sick creatures.