The B&T APC-9 Submachine Gun, VP9 Pistol And Others (B&T Police & Military Day 2015) [PHOTO HEAVY]

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A special thank you to our good friend Erik for writing this post and taking these awesome photo for us.

It has now become a tradition for B&T to invite their partners and customers for a yearly mini exhibition in Thun, Switzerland. This year about 40 exhibitors and some 800 participants could enjoy the possibility to wander around the latest products and also try some of B&T’s and H&K’s guns at the shooting range.

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Heckler & Koch exhibited their latest versions of the MP5, MP7, the UMP, HK416 / 417, G28, G36 to heavier machine guns MG4, MG121 and their grenade launchers of 40 mm. I know what you’re thinking, but unfortunately only the SFP9 (HK VP9 in the USA) was available for testing. Regardless the waiting line to test it lingered long.
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We managed to get our hands on the H&K SFP9 and most of the guns made by B&T, including the MP9, KH9, APC-9, P26 and the rifle-calibred APC-223/300.

The P26 is a low-cost APC-9, with mainly polymer materials instead of aluminium. The list price in Switzerland is around 1200 USD, less than half of an APC-9.

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B&T AG P26

The APC-9 is now also available with a new collapsible stock, making it a great modern PDW. It just looks so right on the gun, offers great support and stability while being very easy to manipulate. Perhaps it’s time to retire the HK MP5 at last?

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If you like a modern version of the Welrod look no further. B&T VP9 is there for you. Very, very silent, basically all you hear is the firing pin. The name is very confusing, considering H&K’s VP9 in the US. B&Ts VP stands for “Veterinary Pistol”, which makes a lot of sense.

The B&T VP9

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Swedish Aimpoint displayed their latest red dot sights, T2 for instance, which are more or less standardised on most of B&T’s guns.

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There’s a scene in the movie “The Matrix”, where the character Neo (played by Keanu Reeves) is in need of a weapon, or a “miracle”. This is what it feels like to step into the B&T Shop. I’m pretty sure this would be the largest dedicated arms and accessories store in Europe. They also carry a very large collection of 5.11 Tactical, among other similar brands.

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A lot of different types of ammunition is also available. Name the calibre and bullet weight and it’s quite possible they have it.




Founder and Dictator-In-Chief of TFB. A passionate gun owner, a shooting enthusiast and totally tacti-uncool. Favorite first date location: any gun range. Steve can be contacted here.


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  • TheNotoriousIUD

    I would trade every gun I own and never buy another if I could have that sweet MP-5.

    • KestrelBike

      and then I’d swap the keymod handguard for the OG full plastic. (once seen as industrial shelving, never unseen)

      • TheNotoriousIUD

        I know, it looks like the stuff in my warehouse but on that gun it looks good I think.

      • Tom

        Thanks for that, and here was me at first thinking “keymod MP5 is sexy” but now its just “keymod MP5 looks like it was made from shelving”.

      • SP mclaughlin

        Never really liked the way Keymod looks, but my god, you are exactly right.

      • Grindstone50k

        And now you’ve just forever ruined keymod for me. Thanks.

    • ostiariusalpha

      An MP5K with telescoping stock… it actually haunts my dreams; leaves a bittersweet pain in my heart when I wake up. Someday.

      • TheNotoriousIUD

        I second that emotion.
        I shouldn’t be so covetous since I already pretty much have my dream gun but I’m a weak man.

        • ostiariusalpha

          You and I both. Thankfully guns don’t get jealous, every new one just makes the others all that much more interesting & unique by comparison.

    • sam

      Maybe if it had a longer pipe and an M203 grenade launcher and I could somehow practically own and shoot 40mm ammo. And it would have to use coffin mags.

      • TheNotoriousIUD

        We all dream of grenade launchers friend. We all do.

  • mikewest007

    What is that KH9 thing? It looks like a very rough prototype…

    • DVC

      It’s a collector’s gun. Not rough, but can use the old finnish high cap magazine.

  • Vitsaus

    So much stuff we cant have….

  • FarmerB

    Nice to have it just down the road…

  • Esh325

    But the Internet told me 9mm SMG’s are obsolete….

    • http://www.tv-presspass.com TV-PressPass

      No, Kriss told you that…they lied.

    • Nicks87

      They also say 9mm carbines are pointless as well but people seem want them.

      • lowell houser

        Like semi auto belt feds, they ARE pointless. Add a bumpfire stock and all of sudden they can fill their intended role again. Hell how effective for CQB would a SBR 9mm AR with micro-dot and bumpfire be? Pretty damn, me thinks.

    • Lance

      Same idiots who wanted a weaker 5.7mm POS carbine/SMG??? Don’t listen to any tacti coolers my friend!!

    • nobody

      Not completely obsolete, but short barrel rifles generally will do most things better, short of concealability (if the SMG was designed for that of course), and cost if the SMG design is just kept as straight blowback without any particularly expensive features. Cost of ammunition is also an advantage of SMGs but that is more of a concern on the civilian market.

  • http://www.tv-presspass.com TV-PressPass

    Yeah, that looks like a hell of a day

  • Jeff S

    I’m assuming it’s a Hensoldt (Zeiss) RS-A?

    • SP mclaughlin

      Also known as Z-point.

  • Nicks87

    Looks like the only thing H&K brought for civilian gun owners was a sharp stick in the eye… and maybe a couple VP9s.

  • Mark

    Oh look, a bunch of cool guns that will never see the U.S. market!
    /sarc

  • SP mclaughlin

    The P26 looks better than the APC imo.

  • ColaBox

    All those HK guns, and not one image of the angry HK rep glaring at everybody…

  • Grindstone50k

    BRB moving to Switzerland.

  • Llewellyn Franks

    B&T guns look like they came form an alternate timeline where subcarbines never caught on and the SMG concept still reigned supreme in CQB. I like how they still develop their own pistol grips and stocks despite most other companies opting for AR compatible furnture, good on you B&T.

    • Kyle

      Why is removing options good? Going AR compatible alows the end user to stick whatever they want there. There’s like what? 100+ aftermarket grips to choose from? Yeah one of those is gonna be better than whatever they come up with. My biggest complaint about my KSG is that I can’t readily change the pistol grip out. Drives me nuts.

      • Llewellyn Franks

        I like how they went the extra distance to make a feature that would be unique to their weapon in a market where most people just opt for the AR compatible route. Something to keep in mind is that all designs and standards come with some limitations. The AR stock is strapped to a large piece of metal and in making a weapon AR compatible the designers lose some control over what the weapon actually is.

        To me AR compatibility is a mixed bag, you have easy customization options and maybe its cheaper. On the other hand you also really stunt innovation and could wind up missing out on a really optimal setup had the rifle been designed with its on stock in mind.

        Also I hate AR accessory circlejerks with a passion, and anyone who helps end those is a friend of mine.

  • no

    Sploosh

  • Lance

    Love the MP-5s and the mini 416s.

  • Aaron

    H&K AKs?

  • sam

    hmmm, 380 full-size pistol and what appear to be 9mm coffin mags… I hope those things are really happening.

  • lowell houser

    The bumpfire stock companies need to get their act in gear and start making stocks for Thompsons, MP5’s, Kriss, , that new CZ Scorpion, etc.

  • http://196800revolutionsperminute.blogspot.com/ Nathaniel F.