1. Panic Freak

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    Trump Game Theory 101. If presented with a binary decision, Trump will pick the worst possible outcome. It's going to be Amy Coney Barrett.
     
  2. QuantumZebra

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    Famine was in the lead but I think Pestilence is gonna pull out the W
     
  3. Ac30

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    Plus, then they get to play the “Dems don’t like her because she’s a woman/religious!!!1!1!1” card. It’s obviously going to be her.

    She’s also 40-fucking-4 which means she’ll be able to do the most damage to boot.
     
  4. emag

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    Not sure she's worse than Kavanaugh. The "best" of the supposed candidates is probably Hardiman, but he may not even be a finalist.
     
  5. BBboy20

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    In regards of this, rioting is really the only option and it needs to be thought up expertly now for it to last as long as possible.
     
  6. They're Trump nominees. What do you think?
     
  7. Is one of them Ivanka?
     
  8. KHarvey16

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    Yes. But doing it only because you don’t like them would set a terrible precedent that would do more damage.
     
  9. dingobingo

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    No, if Trump is convicted and found to be a traitor, I would expect nothing less then impeachments of both justices.
     
  10. KHarvey16

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    That expectation will only end in disappointment. Impeachment doesn’t undo acts taken in office. That would never happen and was never intended to happen.
     
  11. Replicant

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    It’s cute that you think Trump picked any of these nominees or will pick the nominee.
     
  12. Does it matter whether Trump himself or anyone in his administration decides to nominate these people. Whomever is picked by them is going to be a rabid conservative and anti-choice.
     
  13. MistaTwo

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    Please point me out a precedent where A president was elected through direct collusion with a foreign adversary who carried out attacks on our election system, while Republicans (also guilty of collusion) made a successful effort to block the former President's SC nomination and through further cronyism persuaded another judge to step down giving their traitorous president two lifetime appointments in the single most powerful judiciary in the nation.

    Assuming even half of what I wrote is true, we are waaaaay past Con Law 101 precedents and in uncharted territory.
     
  14. KHarvey16

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    It simply isn't going to happen. Gorsuch isn't a judge any other republican in office wouldn't pick, and neither is anyone on this short list.

    Impeachment for anything other than actions taken by the person being impeached would a) be entirely outside the scope of any definition of impeachment and b) be a terrible precedent.
     
  15. Mr. Keith

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    I don't know why people care about precedent. Republicans set godawful precedents all the time and they get by fine.
     
  16. KHarvey16

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    You can't seriously suggest you don't recognize how incredibly short sighted something like that would be, right?
     
  17. antonz

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    Barrett is likely it. Hatch released an Op-ed on the fight ahead and kept referencing the court candidate by she and her. Since there is only one female on the list it looks like Handmaiden will get the job. Republicans want the optics it was not all men killing Roe vs. Wade
     
  18. Mr. Keith

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    There are a lot of things I find incredibly short sighted happening. I just get sick of one side getting away with bending the rules any way they want to suit them and then when the other side is involved everyone cries about slippery slopes and precedent.
     
  19. KHarvey16

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    So just react emotionally and participate in the erosion of our institutions. Good plan.
     
  20. moblin

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    For what it's worth, Republicans could start impeachment proceedings for Sotomayor, Kagan, RBG, and Breyer right now -- they control the Senate. They could also simply work with the Republican House and increase the size of the Court and pack it with Federalist Society bigwigs.

    The reason they don't is because even if you may not believe it, they're justifiably terrified of the precedent it would set.
     
  21. Mr. Keith

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    Yeah but it would be silly to do that. There was no doubts about Bill Clinton or Obama getting elected and they weren't in bed with a foreign power.

    If Trump was found to be a traitor all his decisions should be purged. That shouldn't be some terrifying precedent to set.
     
  22. KHarvey16

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    By what mechanism should all his decisions be purged?
     
  23. Mr. X

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    Why is law and order most important when faced with injustice and irreversible damage?
     
  24. KHarvey16

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    I don't see you armed and heading toward the capital.
     
  25. This. The "But Her Emails" fucks destroyed the USA for the next generation at least. A complete shitshow.
     
  26. Polaroid_64

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    We are going to be ruled by religion (even more so), yet this country was founded by many who were fleeing religious oppression.

    So fucking dumb. People making laws based on where they go to church is a fucking joke.

    Go to church where you want. But religious freedom has been completely twisted into power over others.
     
  27. Mr. X

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    This is about you preaching precendent and apathy.
     
  28. KHarvey16

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    Apathy? What kind of person believes all options are exhausted once the childish tantrum route is taken away?
     
  29. GaimeGuy

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    They already broke norms when they stole obama's seat and filled more than 10% of all the judiciary in trump's first year.

    Yeah, that's right - More than 10% of the judiciary was vacant. Why? Because Republicans did not want to let a constitutional scholar who valued the integrity and impartiality of the judiciary fill court vacancies, for the sole reason that he was a democrat.

    Repulbicans have already stacked the courts.

    As far as I'm concerned, they have three options:

    #1: Roll back their court stacking and appoint people who are qualified, experienced, and not right wing ideologues, at all levels of the judiciary.

    #2: Shut the fuck up as the democrats increase the number of seats on the supreme court and fill them with young liberals.

    #3: Revolution

    What they've done is poison the well, and if they are not going to fix the damage they've done, then we should force it ourselves. And if they still stand in the way, well:

    I think it'd be time to assume the powers to which we are entitled.

    This is not their country to rule. It belongs to the people. The people have consistently voiced their support for democratic nominees over the last 15 years. They have consistently voiced a lack of plurality, never mind majority, support for Donald Trump, and have suffered for his tenure.

    Fuck them all. Precedent states that we maintain a working government of, by, and for the people, and republicans have shat over that notion my entire life. I do not give a flying fuck what norms we have to violate to quarantine them from political supremacy. I'm sick of compromising with people who will stand b y and let our country be attacked by foreign interests while our domestic politicians destroy families, erect concentration camps, attack the pillars of our society which educate, inform, and sustain the public, all under the "legitimacy" of political gamesmanship. They are traitors living under the same roof.
     
  30. GaimeGuy

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    Besides, McConnell will be dead soon. Screw his legacy. Government exists for the living, not the dead.
     
  31. -Mikey-

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    I thought it'd be a woman since day one for this exact reason. Everything is so predictable from this administration.
     
  32. Phire Phox

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  33. I find myself hating that man more and more every day. They are gleeful in their destruction of America. Reconstruction was a mistake.
     
  34. thepotatoman

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    At least Barrett is easier to paint as unqualified and as essentually a vote on Roe v Wade, which is helpful in the short term political fight.

    Though in the end she'll still be confirmed and everyone will forget in a day.
     
  35. Tya

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    Republicans controlled the Senate at that point. There is no "McConnel rule" for a minority Senate to use. Civility has nothing to do with it.
     
  36. MrNewVegas

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    Is Donald the 4th horse? The pale horse?