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October 24, 2017, 12:45:55 PM
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As some of you may know, Bitcoingold is attempting to fork Bitcoin at the 25th of October. However in the past they decided they'll fork during the Bitcoincash date, both of which have ended up confusing me.
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October 24, 2017, 01:13:36 PM
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Bitcoin block number 491407 is reached : the Bitcoin blockchain snapshot is dome.
Next steps :
 - having tools to make the swap.
 - some exchanges to trade the coin.
 - some pools to mine and securise the coin.
But no stress, we have time.

Good luck Bitcoin gold.
We don't have to accuse here and there , but yeah there's no harm to being suspicious ,
Let's always be positive respond on anything ,
They might have a good purpose to create bitcoin that mineable by gpu for example ,
I will support them as long as they show legitimate factors.
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October 24, 2017, 01:15:13 PM
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I was reading some articles on Reddit regarding the upcoming Fork of BTC to create Bitcoin Gold or BTG. I stumbled upon one of the the post from Reddit user: EnviousArm
Reddit user link: https://www.reddit.com/user/EnviousArm

All the credits goes to Reddit user: EnviousArm as this user has done all the efforts and work. I am just trying to bring this to light for bitcointalk members. Thank you.

Link to the post: https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/757jf4/here_is_why_bitcoingold_is_shady_and_a_scam_you/

Update 3: I've done a reverse whois lookup on their website, and found a ton of domains registered under the same email (not same IP) in their whois. the domains look super damn scammy by the way, you can check them out yourself here: https://i.imgur.com/HG31eie.png

And for the actual list if you don't wanna see a picture, here: http://viewdns.info/reversewhois/?q=xiangliao%40gmail.com

I got the email from: https://www.whois.com/whois/btcgpu.org BTG is, without a doubt, a complete scam.

Looks like they tried running several ICOs, one of them is even still active called sandcoin.org (which is obviously a scam too) Update 2: *

Premined: https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/pull/2

    Unfinished pow implementation: https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/pull/15

    Replay protection not implemented (You might lose your Bitcoins if you try to transfer or sell your airdropped Bitcoin gold be careful!): https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/issues/18

    No change of difficulty algorithm implemented (they will compete with other GPU-mined coin for hashpower)

    No commits merged to main public repo in last 21 days

    Without the difficulty fix alone, this coin will crater rapidly.

Assuming it survives that, without replay protection, big exchanges won't list it, and wallets won't support it. The code is unfinished and in flux that no-one can seriously review it yet, and there's no commit for a testnet definition yet. (thanks to /u/StrawmanGatlingGun)

Update 1: In their Website-Snapshot from the github (https://github.com/BTCGPU/website) they stated that the fork snapshot already processed: "Bitcoin Gold (BTG) is a new proof-of-work cryptocurrency that will be hard forked from the Bitcoin blockchain on October 1 at block height 487427", which actually ended up being September 28th (https://blockchain.info/block-height/487427) partial info thanks to /u/rhuxx for the find.

As some of you may know, Bitcoingold is attempting to fork Bitcoin at the 25th of October. However in the past they decided they'll fork during the Bitcoincash date, both of which have ended up confusing me thus I've decided to do more research on the matter.

As I dug in deeper Bitcoingold started falling apart in front of my eyes losing all my trust in it. Here is what I've found.

First I read about this to get a better idea behind it: https://medium.com/@EthereumRussian/is-another-hardfork-going-to-kill-bitcoin-bitcoin-gold-e49b24ad8a9

The article mentioned there's been an ICO page, intrigued I decided to do a quick google search and found this 29 August bitcointalk thread that has more information regarding it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2046790.0

Along with the original Bitcoingold developer thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2133536.0

It seems that they have possibly ran an ICO (Unsuccessfully most likely) but most certainly had premined the coin, thus I went to their website which at the time (9th of October) only ran a splash screen: http://btcgpu.org/ in an attempt to confirm my doubts.

This didn't lead me far, I needed to confirm those claims by myself, thus I went to the wayback machine (a wayback machine takes snapshots of websites so you can tell what changed in a website over time) and picked the August 31 date of the bitcoingold website. https://web.archive.org/web/20170831032225/http://btcgpu.org/

This confirmed the rumors, the website owners/original developers intended to run an ICO (which may or may not been successful) and also premined 16000 Blocks, worth at least 200,000 Bitcoin gold. The ICO price was supposedly 1 BTC = 10 BTG.

Since they are holding that information away from us and hiding it, this makes me believe that, bitcoingold is infact a scam and an attempt to milk the Crypto community out of their money, please don't fall into this scam and don't buy bitcoingold, dump it and let others know you can even do your own research with the Wayback machine I linked above or any time machine.

Regards, A fellow crypto investor

tl;dr BTG (Bitcoin gold is pre-mined 200,000+ BTG, and previously offered as an ICO, now they are trying to hide both of that information from us and telling people to dump their alts to get free "Bitcoin gold". the fork dates do not match, they specified different dates 3 times, once in their github page (1th october, and the block ended up being mined at 28th september) and a third time as 25th of october. all this combined information makes this me believe with no doubt that this is a scam in the making, and you should all dump your BTG as soon as you get it and never, ever buy BTG. also there is no replay protection, incomplete pow implementation, and no difficulity adjustment just the replay protection alone means you can lose your BTC by trying to sell/transfer your BTG, whois email associated domains shows complete scammy icos and domains registered under the email, this without a doubt they are 100% scammers.).

If ever BitcoinGold is a scam I am not actually affected because I have nothing on my wallet for now. Grin But anyways, thank you for posting it here as this post a FUD or not it will still serve as a pre-emptive measures to each and everyone who are planning to invest on the said coin. If BitcoinGold is a scam or not we should be cautious because it is involving our own money in investing coins especially if we are lazy enough doing research about team and technical aspects about the coin. In my case if only I have a capital well, as usual, I will still invest in Bitcoin for a free BTG but after the fork I will transfer all my Bitcoins first into another wallet and then that's the time I will sweep private keys for BTG and for safety.

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October 24, 2017, 01:24:30 PM
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I don't understand.
either it is scam or not,If we are getting free money and gaining some amount whats wrong in there.
If technology get stabilized will see its future. Grin
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October 24, 2017, 01:32:34 PM
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I don't understand.
either it is scam or not,If we are getting free money and gaining some amount whats wrong in there.
If technology get stabilized will see its future. Grin

people don't consider if it was a scam or not what they just want is a free money  , If you really into bitcoin gold make at least some research maybe supporting it will make bitcoin value drop , I am loyal bitcoin enthusiast so I will just dump it for a purpose of supporting bitcoin not to have free money
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October 24, 2017, 02:00:34 PM
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A  stupid MKTG just to take word "Bitcoin" in the name...

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October 24, 2017, 02:19:51 PM
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Bitcoin Gold is a scam entirely designed just to enrich it's creators (200 000 premine) Everybody knows this, but this scam is going to bring free money to BTC holders, that's why nobody cares if it is a scam or not. Unforchinately  the mindset of most crypto traders is similar to this : Hey do you wan´t to vote for satan as president of the world, I give you 500$? Yeah of course, money for free, fuck the world why would I refuse free money? We do not care about "morality" issues when it comes to money.
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October 24, 2017, 02:27:59 PM
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No one knows really. Just like what happened with Bitcoin cash.

I am personally not at all interested in Bitcoin gold. For the guys going for this, for their sake I hope I am wrong.

Compared to the clusterfuck that Bitcoin Gold turns out to be, Bitcoin Cash's launch went smooth as silk.  Wink

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October 24, 2017, 04:09:02 PM
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https://medium.com/@jiangzhuoer/bitcoin-gold-just-another-ico-scam-with-200-000-coins-pre-mined-b839fa2263dd

Check it out here. The funder of BTG is an ICO scammer with very bad reputation in the past.
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October 24, 2017, 04:24:33 PM
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Just spotted this, forget about Bitcoin Gold - forget about GOLD - put all your money (house included) into Bitcoin - The Mighty Woz has spoken !
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/money2020-wozniak-thinks-bitcoin-better-gold/


Put all your money in one basket Huh  No, it's too risky. Experienced investors must understand this and do not succumb to emotions or advertising of other people.
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October 24, 2017, 04:26:20 PM
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Wow I thought it was useful.....thanks for opening my eyes. Also I found a medium articles saying the owner is a fraud
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October 24, 2017, 04:28:01 PM
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I don't understand.
either it is scam or not,If we are getting free money and gaining some amount whats wrong in there.
If technology get stabilized will see its future. Grin

people don't consider if it was a scam or not what they just want is a free money  , If you really into bitcoin gold make at least some research maybe supporting it will make bitcoin value drop , I am loyal bitcoin enthusiast so I will just dump it for a purpose of supporting bitcoin not to have free money

as long as there is a free people might accept it then hold it they dont ever think if it amy have some value in the future maybe because they know that this can have as long as its free all of us want it even though ive never tried to have bitcoin but i wish i can have that free bitcoingold.
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October 25, 2017, 03:03:45 AM
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I don't understand.
either it is scam or not,If we are getting free money and gaining some amount whats wrong in there.
If technology get stabilized will see its future. Grin

Thats the sad part! People are after freebies and money but in the end they are ruining something which has potential to turn world upside down which is blockchain technology and cryptocurrency!

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October 25, 2017, 03:11:35 AM
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https://medium.com/@jiangzhuoer/bitcoin-gold-just-another-ico-scam-with-200-000-coins-pre-mined-b839fa2263dd

Check it out here. The funder of BTG is an ICO scammer with very bad reputation in the past.
Nice article. Worth reading through. This explains how stupid our community is which doesnt really care for anything. Hopefully people will not support this shit which plan to ride in name of BTC. As some one said, we lack Morality in this forum!

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October 25, 2017, 03:13:31 AM
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it taked pretty bad. I am curious to see where it will be in the future.

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October 25, 2017, 07:34:10 AM
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I am curious to see where it will be in the future.
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October 25, 2017, 08:16:46 AM
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it taked pretty bad. I am curious to see where it will be in the future.


Not succesful as i see it didnt create much hype about it and people are seeing it as a scam becuase they are not providing any info about bitcoin gold
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October 25, 2017, 08:44:57 AM
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BTG currently around one hundred something ( 160 - 170 ).
It has been dropping faster than the rocket starts flying.
I am regretting and crying for holding it (>_<)
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October 25, 2017, 09:26:32 AM
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https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-gold-website-following-massive-ddos-attack/


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October 25, 2017, 09:29:26 AM
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I'm not sure if this is from normal usage and the hype and they haven't got the resources or if someone is generally targeting them, maybe another competitor in the market?
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